Kiwi rugby fans are speculating about what's changed after the All Blacks got trounced in their second test against South Africa.
The 43-10 result in Wellington marks the side's highest margin of defeat - a week after extending their undefeated run at Eden Park to 51 matches.
Sportstalk host Jason Pine speculates further.
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