Labour's education spokesperson says regulation is needed to ensure children are safe in early childhood education.
Opposition parties have joined forces to stop what they fear will be dangerous changes.
The Government has launched a sector review, saying it plans to remove regulations deemed 'unnecessary'.
Jan Tinetti says the review's been rushed, and some in the industry feel they haven't been listened to.
"And it's really important to hear all of the voices here, or else it is going to be dangerous. We are going to put our kids in a really unsafe position - and also our teachers in an unsafe position."
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To politics. The opposition is joining forces to stop what they are calling dangerous changes to the early childhood sector. Labor and the Greens and the Maori Party and also the Union NZDI have joined together to say they are going to start a tour around the country to hear concerns from the public and teachers and parents about David SEMA's plan to cut what he calls stupid rules in the sector. Jantinetti is Labour's education spokesperson, a jan Hi Heather, So what is dangerous about what David Semur wants to cut?
First of all, regulation is necessary to ensure young children's safety and the quality of education, and that has to be put at the heart of any framework. This review is being carried out in a really short time frame, and we've heard from educators that they are really concerned that their voices are not being heard. They have they've submitted to the review, but they feel like the questions in the survey were very skewed. We're worried that we're not getting to the heart of the safety and that quality of education, and it's really important to hear all of the the voices here or else it is going to be dangerous. We are going to put our kids in a really unsafe position and also our teachers in an unsafe position.
What rules are they planning to cut that you think would make it dangerous?
Well, in opposition, David Seymour talked a lot about many of the regulations in the EC and said that they were ridiculous. Now, one of the ones that he cited was having to record the number of times when a teacher put Neppi rash cream onto a young child. Now, as a parent myself, I would want to know that information because if you're having to put that on a number of times in the day, there is clearly something wrong. And if a teacher is doing that and then that's found out later because it hasn't been recorded, that's putting that teacher at risk. And so it is really important. It's not the only of course, that's just an example, but it is something that we need to make sure that the safety of those kids and the safety of those teachers is put at the heart.
But I don't think that's a good example. I mean, I've got a kid who's just coming out of nappies. If the teacher was putting a lot of nappy rash cream on. Then at the end of the day, I would also see that there's a problem in the nappy, wouldn't I. I wouldn't need to know how many times it was put on. I could see with my own eyes there's a problem.
But you would have that conversation with the teacher at the same time. Now, I've recently been to a conference we've had overseas experts. Doctor Mary Maloney was there from Ireland. She said, you know, regulations are there for a reason. They're there to keep young people safe and the children safe and to ensure quality education. Of course they must be fair and they must be proportionate, but children's experiences do need to be at the center of all of that. And she also said she's very disappointed that New Zealand's going down this track of running the review the way that they are, because when it is rushed, and when it happened to overseas that it's been rushed, children were injured or an either in some cases there was death because the review it carried out too quickly, went too far to shot where they don't can't have that well. She cited a case in England here and that's where it had happened, So we.
Have to why did the child die?
In some cases it's around that particular case was around sleeping patterns and not not checking enough in the sleeping patterns, and the rest of the particular center did not check, did not go in and checked because the regulations went strong enough. Is a rule that wants to shut No, that's part of the regulation review that we've got at the moment, and that's what we're just ensuring that everybody's words are being equally.
So one of the rules that I would like to see cut is one that involves country kindy in the manner were too right? That place was shut down briefly because it didn't write a mission statement that was part of the reasons. Is that a rule that you want to keep or would you prepare to let that one go?
So, Heather, as I've said before, and I've said this quite publicly, I'm all for supporting to make sure that we've got the right regulations. What I'm not in support of is ensure rushing the review, making certain we have to make certain that we're listening to the bike people and all people that are evolting.
Here's another one, David Seymour reckons that one ECE provided God in touch with him because they got in trouble because the first aid certificate was being hung on the right hand side of the door, not above the doorframe. Would you be prepared to get rid of that rule?
That was the rule? Now, what I am going to say to that particular case and others like it is that sometimes centers interpretations of regulations are the heart of the problem. And David Seymour has actually said that himself, not the regulations. So you know.
Jen, is it not possible? I mean, so you and I both agree that some rules may need to change, right are you? Are you guys not maybe putting the horse that the cart in front of the horse if like by complain about it becoming dangerous. We don't even know what he's going to cut.
No, absolutely not, Heather. As I said, we're going to make certain that all voices are heard. This is to add to what we're doing here. It's making certain that people feel that their voices are being listened to. If we can be of any support and help in that process to make sure that the government gets that right, then that's exactly what we will do. Because our kids are far too important. They are little treasures to be nurtured and that's really important. It's obvious he's a bit flustered at the moment because they put out a pr shortly after ours. But we're taking a principled approach here to make certain that our children are right at the center and that the teacher's voices will be heard.
Jan, thank you very much, really appreciate your time, mate. Go well. That's Jan Tinetti, Labour's education Spokespusin.
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