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It's jacktame on, hither duplice Allen drive with one New Zealand let's get connected.
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They've cracked it. The male contraception pill is a thing, except it's not a pill. It's a gel. You rub it on your shoulders. They reckon. It is as effective as the women's contraceptive pill. It could be on the market at a pharmacy near you very soon. Indeed, and after five o'clock on newstoroks he'db we are speaking to the researcher who has pulled it off, as well as at the government with their plans to spend four billion yes you heard that right, four billion dollars fixing up potholes around the country. Here's the thing, though, you can break it down all of the funding region by region. Some regions are seeing massive increases in pothole funding seventy percent, sixty percent, some regions not quite so much. So I will break down that funding for your region by region very shortly. Indeed, right now it's eight minutes past.
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Zibbi a fascinating interview on the My Costing Breakfast this morning with the lawyer acting on behalf of former workers at Auckland's manuder with Marai, where it is alleged that private information was improperly accessed to help with election campaigning. Now these are really really serious allegations and it is just so important to note that to Party Mardi and John Tammaheaty have denied all allegations of wrongdoing so far. At the moment, we have Stats New Zealand investigating, the police are investigating as well. Health New Zealand is involved, and now the Privacy Commissioner is considering what if any steps to take. But I for one thing, it's probably reached a point with this issue where a broader inquiry can be justified not only to restore public confidence in the census and in election process, but also for two Party Mardi and for John Tummaheady to have the opportunity to be publicly cleared of wrongdoing. You see, there are several issues with this. We have, for starters, several interrelated allegations, which are in themselves a little confusing and little murky. We have a government department that is investigating, while a legal representative for some of the workers at the center of these allegations says that another government department, the MSD, has acted improperly. And I think that having one government department essentially investigating another department's role risks perceptions when it comes round a lack of independence, at least in the eyes of some voters. It's interesting. Christopher Arkson says he's not ruling out a public inquiry, but at the same time he probably needs to be pretty careful to be seen not to be using as yet unproven allegations for political advantage. So he suggests the current proceeds need to be seen through. But I think we probably need something broader. I think we need something broader, something with clear terms of reference, something as transparent as possible, because it is in the best interests of the voting public, but also the best interests of clearing those who say they've done absolutely nothing wrong. Jack two ninety two ninety two is the text number if you're gonna flick a message this afternoon. Don't forget that standard text costs supply. You can email me as well if you like Jacket newstalks. He'db dot co dot NZ. The Motor Vehicle Industry or the Motor Industry Association rather is warning more car dealers are going to go bust after the fifth straight month of slow new car sales. This year, the sales are thirteen percent lower, so that's about eight thousand fewer sales than last year and almost twenty five percent lower, so just over sixteen and a half thousand fewer sales than in twenty twenty two. Motor Industry Association Chief executive Amy Wiley is with us now, Hi Amy, Hi Jack. Why are we seeing such a significant drop in sales?
Well, we are in economic recessionary times, and I'm sure it's not just limited to the sales of new cars and SUVs, but it's probably across the board. But given that we can measure based on monthly registrations how well we're going, I think it's both the economic slower economy and higher interest rates slowing down the number of vehicles being sold, but also consumer demand has shifted too, and the types of vehicles that kiwis want the share of change.
So are you seeing a drop in sales when it comes to secondhand vehicles.
Not to the same extent as new.
So that's interesting. A So if it is a pinch, then maybe it's been felt at the higher end of the market, you think.
Yeah. So in May we're down about thirty three percent, so about a third on new vehicles, and I think it's down about nine percent used.
Wow.
Did the end of the of the clean car discount, the EV subsidy, ute tax, whatever you want to call it, have you anything to do with the change in sales?
Yes? I think it is policy driven. With the end of the clan car discount and with the introduction of road user charges. Just recently, we're seeing demand for EVA users lump right well down fourteen percent this year, and we're seeing that for people who are still buying new cars, they've decided to buy petrol equivalents instead.
Yeah, that's interesting. So what do you think is going to be the end result of all this? So things are going to get much worse?
Well, with the government's budget announcement last week and listening to some of the key economists in the country, it sounds like we're in for probably a bit of a tough quarter three and quarter four, But for hopefully and hopefully businesses can ride out the next six months and we'll see some improvement in twenty twenty five.
I think is anyone doing well.
Well? It's hard to answer that question. Actually, I guess people selling hybrid vehicles probably are, right, that's where you know, for cars being so at the moment there's a huge demand for hybrids, mild hybrids, petrol hybrids, I guess they're doing well. But as for everybody US an industry, given that evs were in hot demand last year and they've probably got them all in stock right now, I'd say it's pretty pretty tough going.
Yeah, that's interesting. So why do you think hybrids are doing well when all other parts of the market are down?
Mild hybrids, petrol hybrids don't have a road.
User charge, right, and that's it, And I think, yeah.
I think he's just they're voting with what they're buying, right, and looking for things that they don't have to have extra edmond or extra costs. Yeah, and at the moment that that's where that looks.
So let's flesh us out a little bit from here, right, it's going to be a tough winter I think we can all appreciate that. I see Infometrics is now pushing out its forecast as of today, suggesting that interest rate cuts might not be until February next year. If we are in really difficult economic times until say February March of next year, we don't see cuts until that point, what will be the overall impact on the motor vehicle selling industry.
Yeah, it's a tough time for I feel sorry for importers and distributors and dealers. At the moment, it's tough because they've got a number of policies they've been juggling. So in the new vehicle industry, they ordered vehicles six to twelve months in advance, so the cars arriving now they ordered a long time ago, we demand would have looked it very different. But not only that, they've got the Clean Car Standard and that that penalizes importers for bringing in higher emission vehicles or it gives credits for lower emission vehicles. So at the moment, they're trying to balance the supply and the demand when thus applying a product to a market, and it's tough. Previously, what I've heard from some of from some of our members is that it feels harder right now than it did during the GFC. And I think the reason for that as use were that we're in higher interest rates and economic recessionary times. But we've got new policies too, and we've got climate policies. And when consumers walk in and they want to buy the higher remissing vehicles, how do you offset the penalties associated with that without lifting vehicle prices. Because of vehicle prices go up, people want to buy them even less.
Yeah, hey, thanks for your time, Amy, We appreciate it. That is Amy Wiley, who's the chief executive of the Motor Industry Association. It's quarter past four.
Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather Duplicy allan drive with one New Zealand one giant leap for business.
Used Talks B eighteen past four on new Stik Seed B Jack came in for Heather Duplicity, Alan Darcy Waldgrave Sports talk hosts with us in that hit in State of Origin one last night, suerle On Reese Walsh. It was actually a hard watch. I don't want to joke about it. It was It made me feel physically sick.
Did your teeth chatter?
Job?
Just reminded me why I don't play contact sports anymore.
Yeah, it took me back to my early years when I also came to the same conclusion that this is not a good idea. Not only was I week, I was tiny, so it didn't make any sense. But what happened there and silly getting it looks like a four to five weeks band for there and then red.
Carded off the park.
And I think the big issue here for me and a lot of people is why do why do.
We have sport? Why do we have televised sport?
Who's at four?
Why do we have fans at sports? Who pays for it?
All?
It's us.
We're the eyeballs, We're the fans. This is our product. It's not yours, it's ours. So seven minutes into the game, the oxygen goes out of the place. Half the fans are like, oh god, we're not going to win it now looks new South Wales came back well. But I think even though we don't have red cards much in rugby league because they're fairly fast and free with things like that, maybe he shot at in the arts or right on report that possibly they look to Super Rugby and go, you know, maybe something like that, a twenty minute red and then you can replace the guys so the game doesn't get completely destroyed because I tweeted out eight minutes past all the games is good as gone now, isn't it.
And you knew that.
So what you're suggesting is after twenty minutes. So basically he goes off for twenty so they're down a man, they're down a player for twenty minutes. But so as to not ruin the entire game, you then bring on a replacement. It's not that he gets to come back, which is.
They do in Super Level too. So I think a lot of people like that.
I suppose out and out thuggery, Like if you stand there and you know, take a pole nex to a guy off forever and people would say that is out and out thuggery. But Joe, he just turned around in the tackle, re slipped a bit. But because he turned around, he didn't see where he was going. So emphasis on him to actually make that call and keep the tack lee safe. And he didn't, and as you said, him lying on the ground kind of like pulsing.
Yeah, it's good to hear him up and talking today.
And it looks like he's been cleared and he's going to be back to play again.
In a couple of weeks.
Don't don't fine, mate?
Yeah, congrete, Yeah. Scott Barrett and Cody Taylor have extended their contracts with New Zealand Rugby. Scott Barrett's got the little sabbatical option right.
End of twenty twenty seven. But guys like that he's the future of locking and using.
See the future of the all back captaincy.
Highly likely, you would say, I would think. And also when you look at the relationship that he has with a Razor Ray, you can understand that he would fall into that because a coach has to better talk to the team through the captain and he has to know that the captain buys into what he's saying, understands what he's trying to put out there for the team. So people might say you might not be the best captain, but the relationship between the coach, the captain and the team to me is vital. So I can see that him rolling straight to that and Cody Taylor fantastic player. And of course, if you're a long suffering okay sorry if you're a suffering because it's only been one year. Crusaders fan pretty pleased that those two guys be around, think a couple of years.
That's true. All right, I got a question for you. It's a personal question. Would you take a male contraception?
Gel Well, I don't have to.
I've had a s.
Okay, well there, Well there's a lot of information, but I don't want to create babies at fifty.
Here's the thing.
So with your male contraception, Joe, you rub it on your shoulders. Apparently, yeah, well apparently yeah. So we're going to be speaking to the researcher who's just apparently cracked the code on this on your shaft five o'clock. You rub it on your shoulders. There's a good reason for rubbing on your shoulders. Actually, go out of the building.
I like to sit there and listen to that.
Really, I tell you what.
I got all sorts of opinions on this, but I won't share that with you because I'm a sports host.
Yeah.
That sounds very good to me, Very good to everyone, I think. Thank you so much, Darcy good je Darcy Waldergrave there, thanks for your feedback as well.
Jack.
Even in the days I had she shloads of cash. I would never buy a brand new car, says Chris. The instant devaluation makes it incredibly stupid.
Jack.
The reason people aren't buying evs isn't the road user charges, is because the secondhand value is rubbish. You lose too much money on them.
There.
I suggest that the changing the settings around the clean card discount is probably also played a bit of a role as well. But it's been interesting, you know, interesting to hear that the second hand sales have held up as well as they have. I've been looking at maybe changing to a hybrid and have been following a couple of cars on trade me for the last few months, had them watch listed and just watched as the price has steadily dropped. Another thousand bucks this month, another thousand bucks next month. So yeah, it'd be really intriguing to think what the industry might be like in another four or five months. Ninety two ninety two. If you want to flickers of text, it's twenty three past four.
Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Jack tame on, Heather duper Seeland drive with one New Zealand let's get connected.
Use Dogs'd be coming up on newstalks. The'd be The government has confirmed a total of about four billion dollars to fix up potholes right around the country. We are going to be speaking with Transport Minister Simeon Brown about this after five o'clock this evening. So there are two big pots that comes from for the potholes. The state highway pothole prevention that's got about two point oh seven billion. Local road pothole prevention has about one point nine billion. If you break down that one point nine billion, you can do it on a regional allocation basis and it's quite interesting. So what region do you think is getting the most care? It's Auckland. Is that because Auckland has the most roads or because Auckland's roads are in the worst state. I wonder almost half a billion dollars going into Auckland alone. Compare that with the Chatham Islands. So the Chaum Islands isn't doing too bad out of things. Ten million dollars. You take that, don't you? If you're on the Chathams, if you are listening from the Chatterms this evening, I would love to know how roads on the Chatteram Islands compare with the roads in Auckland. If it's just a quantity of roads thing that justifies Auckland's big cash, or if it's something more than that as well as that. Before five o'clock this evening, remember the Australian government was taking on Elon Musk. Yeah, that's fizzled out. Not a huge surprise there, but we'll give you the details. And as well as that, we have a new silver medal for the second most valuable company in the world, at least publicly listed companies in Nvidia is the company. It is just bananas how much this has blown up over the last year. In particular, they are a computer chip manufacturer. Of course, they're widely thought of as being in the best position to gain from the AI artificial intelligence boom. So in Nvidio has gone from designing chips for video games to designing AI chips. Its market cap is now three trillion US dollars, better than Apple, second only to Microsoft. Remarkable. Ah, it's almost four thirty. News is next on news Dog ZB.
The day's newsweakers talk to Jack first, Jack Dame on Hither Dupless Allen drive with one New Zealand Let's get connected news talk sid B.
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Everybody had bugetip, yes talk zb you were Jack Taman for head of Duplicy Allen. It's gonna get a little bit easier, particularly if you are in part of regional New Zealands, to get access to radiology, so vers x rays, ultrasounds, that kind of thing. The government announcing thirty million dollars in funding today. Barry Soba is going to be here very shortly with the details for us. Right now it is twenty five minutes to five.
It's the world wires on news talks. They'd be drive.
And the UN Secretary General wants to see an end to ads for fossil fuels. Antonio Hutes says that like tobacco, fossil fuels are a risk to public health.
Here's some of his speech, The godfathers of climate kaos, the fossil ful industry breaking record profits and fist off trillions in taxpayer funded subsidies.
The leader of the Green Party in Australia has threatened to sue the Attorney General, Richard dreyfou linked the party to rowdy Palestinian protests and Green's leader at Advanced says that's defametry.
The Greens condemn anti Semitism, the Greens condemn Islamophobia. Those protests that have gone on for months and months and months. I've been overwhelmingly paceful. Where there have been incidents that you have referred to coreancient pace haven't been involved in that.
And finally, a researcher is claiming to have found evidence there was a nuclear war in seventeen hundred BC. Yes, you heard that right, seventeen hundred BC. Billy Carson says an archaeological site in Pakistan has clear evidence of a nuclear explosion. Here he is on the Joe Rogan experience.
They'd have no clue idea, so they turn it into mythology so they can kind of say it's all fantasy and fairy tales and this is how they expressed themselves or how they understood the universe. It's all mythology, is all fake, but in reality it's not all fake.
Yeah.
Billy also thinks that Aliens came to South Africa in the ancient past to mine gold. So yeah, I'll leave it up to you as to how seriously you take this.
News International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind for New Zealand business ah.
Man Murray Olds is in Australia for this afternoon and Murray, the Australian government has given up on legal action against Elon Musk.
Yeah, good, after the India Jack, I suppose it was really always, even though it was a government agency involved, it was always a bit like you know, a don Quixote childing at a giant Elon Musk powered windmill. And now what's happened. Yes, the E Safety Commissioner has dropped this legal battle to have X formerly Twitter of course takedown graphic footage globally of a stabbing in a church in Sydney.
Back in April.
Young man radicalized online runs to the front of the church. It's all being live streamed and stabs the Assyrian bishop in the head and the face. Now it's been on websites all around the world and the E Safety Commissioner, which is an independent regulator funder of the government, said listen, X.
Get this stuff down or we're going to find you.
Well.
Elon Musk says ho ho ho, you know, do your best.
He dubbed her a censorship Commissar, not the E Safety Commissioner anyway.
It was seen as a test.
Of Australia's ability and I suppose sovereign nation's abilities to enforce online safety rules in.
The world against these giant companies.
Now they did have a partial when the video was removed here in Australia from easily accessible from being easily accessible online. But the fact is it was very easily access access to online, no worries at all, and except we're not taking it down worldwide.
It's an attack on free speech. So MMO Grant says, you.
Know what, dropping a case is the best outcome for the online safety of all Australians. Not sure exactly what she means there, x says, well, it does not allow people to praise it or call for further violence, but it is a win for free speech. And by the way, Musk's followers apparently have piled on to juliamongrant death threats millions of followers of course, death threats and the personal information of a children being exposed online.
So very very messy mate.
The Greens have gone after the Attorney General.
Yeah, pardon me.
Very rare site in Parliament yesterday afternoon to see the Labor government led by Anthony Albanesi and the Federal Opposition led by Peter Dutton howling and screaming in unison about the Greens. Basically, what the whole issue was about was about ongoing protests, pro Palestinian protests outside.
The electorate offices of Federal MPs.
Now Anthony Albanesi and his staff have not been able to get into his office in Sydney for months.
Because there are protesters camped outside.
Now it was pretty willing in the Parliament, which of course is covered by parliamentary privilege. You can say anything in parliament, you can't get sued. But of course the Attorney General Mark Dreyfuss went on to National Radio in the afternoon. He said that you know, the Greens and their leader Adam Band have got something to answer for. The Greens, you know, allegedly were inciting pro Palestinian protesters.
Well not so, says Band. He makes the point.
Listen, it's not about you, and it's not about the opposition leader, mister Albanizi. This is about the thirty six thousand Palestinians have been killed since the Israeli invasion. You know, the government says that basically the Greens are sort of waving through this all the wave of pro Palastinian protest.
The Greens are.
Accusing both the opposition and the government are basically turning a blind eye to Israeli atrocities and going away over the top. So I've not heard this afternoon whether Drapus has apologized.
He probably will, but we'll just have to wait and see him.
Murray.
We think of the Australian economy as performing relatively well compared to our own at the moment, but your economy's on life support.
Sure is on its knees.
It's set a thirty year low bar for the few years of the COVID pandemic, and that's prompted jack a Reserve Bank warning.
That interest rates might have to go up. Now that sounds a bit counterintuitive.
New figures show the economy grew just barely in the first three months of the year zero point one percent, half of what was expected, and annually it's grown just over one point one percent. Now ahead of that data, the boss of the Reserve Bank, Michelle Bullock, I like this woman more every time I see her. I like her more she's absolutely straight down the line. She just tells it like she sees it, and she's completely independent of government, so wonvertide any political party has a crack at her, she'll just pull their nose off. She basically told the Senate estimates the economy is very, very weak, especially many households in small business are cutting their spending, but the labor market is still going well.
So what does all this mean?
Which says the economy is on track for a soft landing. The economy will slow enough to beat inflation, but we'll still have decent jobs growth, and that, she says, is the key.
But the blunt warning. Listen, we'll pull the.
Trigger on interest rates again if necessary if inflation hangs around where we don't like it. They want it down between two and three percent. It continues to be up around the four percent mark, and she's not happy.
Now.
Ah, that's interesting, isn't it. It's still still threatening to pull the trigger if they need. Thanks for your time, Murray, that's Australia correspondent Murray olds. So the picture isn't any better here, of course. I see today that Infometrics have upgraded their forecasts that they were previously expecting the Reserve Bank to begin cutting rates at the end of this year. They've now pushed that forecast back for the Reserve Bank not cutting rates until February of next year. They stayed the still of ten percent chance that the RBNZ will increase rates as well. So we're going to catch up with the Chief economist Brad Alson very soon. Right now, it's seventy to five Politics.
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Good evening, Jack.
It is going to be easier to get X rays et cetera, which is going to come as a massive relief for a lot of people.
Oh, I think so absolutely. It won't only be X rays, be CT scans and ultrasounds, and it'll be across New Zealand. The biggest problem really has been in the provinces at the moment. What has to happen is that you've got to go to a specialist to be referred to get an X ray, a CT scan or an ultrasound, which can you can imagine the.
Length of time that can comes up the works doesn't it well, it does, and GPS.
Are perfectly able to refer somebody, say, for an example, on X ray, and you know they then by the time he gets to the specialist, they've got a very good case in point.
I mean, you know, I've had a lot of.
Experience theoretical area.
Recently, I walked in essentially off the street the other day and had an X rays due to have one, but there was no problem game a health number and got one. In a city like Auckland, it's not altogether that difficult, but it's in the provinces that is a real concern. And you'll be aware of this.
Jack.
Next week it's Men's Health Week, and that's really important. All men should take much more care of their health. And one of the medics that has been dealing with me, he said, what should happen with men is that like you have to take your car for a warrant of fitness every year, men should It should be compulsory in New Zealand for men at fifty to have blood you know, blood pressure tests, listen to the heart and if it was compulsory, you wouldn't have the problems that you have.
Further down the track, I'm not going to post that idea.
I mean you can imagine, imagine the civil libertaria. Yeah, they would go crazy and say no, you can't do that.
You're imposing it, you know.
But if you want your free healthcare, then you've got to do your but go and get a warrant fitness. Yeah, Christopher Luxen is not ruling out a larger inquiry into Tiparty Marty. He's got to be careful with this stuff himself though, just over any only perception of any you know, of benefiting politically from any of this. And I think he's played perfectly fine from now.
Yes, no, And this is an extraordinarily serious issue that not only has possibly acts been broken, therefore the laws been broken, but the sanctity of your senses. When you fill out your senses form, you fill out a lot of very personal information. Now this has been photocopied as the allegations are by the Mudd Eye that the successful multi party candidate was the chief executive of and used for political purposes and similarly for COVID immunization. If material has been used for that, then it is very serious. Indeed, we know that Stat's New Zealand is having a look at it. Complaint has been laid with the police, but to my mind, should take a bigger inquire than that, because yeah, we're not only looking at possible criminality here, we're looking at major privacy issues, and really I think they shouldn't be looked at very careful.
Important to point out, of course, they have denied all allegations of wrongdoing so far to Party Mahdi, the candidates, John Tummerheaty, et cetera. I mean, the point I made just after four o'clock was in terms of a larger inquiry, it's in the interests of the public, the voting public, but also for those people at the center of these allegations. You would think to be to be clear if that you know they are they say there are one hundred percent innocent of any of any wrongdoing. Yeah, so you would think that, you know, maybe it would be in their interests given these allegations as well, the potholes are going to be fixed.
Well, you know, it's incredible, and you know they're going to spend really totally about four billions more bucks. I was amazed that somebody has obviously gone around and counted the potholes, because in New Zealand. We had apparently last year sixty two thousand potholes.
Do it around the country?
Really know, they can use AI for some of us. I know they've been using this recently. What they put a camera on the front of the car and then they drive along on the and the camera works out what's a pothole and we.
Know we've got a poto exactly.
You know, it really is a problem in New Zealand. I don't know how much you drive, but you know I drive reasonable amount on open roads and you do have clangers every now and then. But do you know I was thinking when we were talking about potholes. The worst country in the world that I've experienced for potholes. It's where Chris Luxen is at the moment are in the Pacific and Fiji. And I remember many many years ago going to the first coup when the current Prime minister there said to be around Booker had taken the place over at gunpoint and I had to get from Nandy to Suva in a big rush because the coup had just occurred. I'll tell you what, it was a hell of a job to get there. Potholes everywhere the roads have been looked at for many, many years, and we can't get into a situation in this country. People do complain every time they've gotten drive on the open roads. So I say good luck to the government, get in there and fill in these bloody potholes.
Very good, thank you for your time. That is very sober. So regarding the pothole allocations, it's interesting with one of the two billion dollar funds that are going to be contributing to the pothole fix ups. So they've broken everything down by region so you can see where the most money's going. You can see how much compared to the twenty twenty one to twenty twenty four allocation, the twenty twenty four to twenty twenty seven allocation has increased. Few interesting numbers in there. Okay, So, for example, the region that has seen the least increase for the next three years in terms of its funding under this fund Marlborough, Right, They've got twenty one million dollars over the next three years and that's a twenty seven percent increase. But compare that with next door in Nelson an eighty three percent increase.
So what is it?
Are the roads in Nelson that much worse than they are in Marlborough. Here's the thing though Nelson's funding it's seven million dollars, so seven million versus twenty one million in Marlborough. So that would suggest that maybe the roads of worse and Marlborough. Anyway, we'll put all of this to the Transport Minister. Simeon Brown is going to be with us right after the five o'clock news this evening. Right now it is eight minutes to five.
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast and.
More allegations against the Maori Party over the misuse of private information to influence the election campaign. Ellen Hults is an employment advocate representing six former Maria staff and one MSD worker who laid these complaints, and he's with us hand on heart. You have seen evidence that, without a shadow of a doubt, is in breach of something, whether it be the law or the rules.
Absolutely hand on that. I can say that my real concern is MFT basically funded the election campaign run by the former chief consecutive form the ria's Income Steps New Zealand. They were advised early on issues here and dislike what they say, didn't investigate and the same with the Electoral Commission.
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Thank you very much for you text and emails. We've had so much feedback come over the last wee while, including this. This is a very good point, Jack, do the maths. You got your four billion dollars right for your potholes? Sixty two thousand potholes Barry soaper reckens across the country. That means we're talking about sixty four thousand dollars per pothole. That can't be right. I mean that maths works out, That maths definitely works out. Sure we must have this wrong. There must be more than sixty two thousand potholes, right, Okay, we'll hang on a second four billion dollars across three years. So if we go so sixty two thousand potholes, let's triple that then so that's still or divide it by three. You're still talking about twenty thousand dollars per pothole. It seems like a lot of money. Don't you think We will ask the Transport Minister to me and Brown about that. If you're wondering about the regions which are having the most money allocated through one of the big funds, one of the two billion dollar funds over the next couple of years. Auckland's top of the pops. Canterbury isn't too far behind way. Actually it is a long way behind it, but it comes in second third place. Y Cuttle's done pretty well as well. Two hundred million dollars dedicated for y Cuttle, one hundred and eighty eight million for Canterbury, four hundred and seventy eight million for Auckland. As well as catching up with the Transport ministraft. Of five o'clock, we're going to tell you about the breakthrough that scientists in the US have made with a hormonal gel that they reckon could soon be introduced as a male contraceptive. They've been testing it. It's past all the tests, they're getting great results. They say, we're going to catch up with one of the researchers who tells us how it works and how men apply it. And I think this is the big problem. It might work even if it was fail safe. Could we really rely on men to use a contraceptive if you had to rub on some gel every single day? Really? Could we rely on men to do that. I wonder how much that has factored into the research. We'll ask that research and when he joins us after five, News is next, though it's almost five. I'm Jack Tay and this is Newstalk z be.
The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions, get the answers by the facts and give the analysis. Jack tam on Heather due to ce allan drive with one New Zealand. Let's get connected News.
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The pothole Police is coming to a place near you. That's the promise from the Transport Minister today. Simon Brown says almost four billion dollars in total will be spent on pothole prevention and repair on state highways and local roads over the next three years. The biggest local roads winners by region are Auckland almost half a billion dollars alone, Why Cut on more than two hundred million, Canterbury one hundred and eighty eight million, in Northland on one hundred and fifty million. Simon Brown is the Transport Minister and it is with us this evening and good evening Minister, Good evening, Jack. So what is the money actually going to be spent on?
Well, if it the pothole prevention funds. It's going to go into those activities focused on preventing potholes from performing in the first place. That's resealing the road, it's rehabilitating, which means digging it up and renewing the pavement. And it's the important drainage where that's required along the sides of the roads to stop water getting into the roading surface and causing potholes to form. So this is about preventing potholes. It's about resealing the roads. It's about making sure that we can get keys where they need to go quickly and safely.
To be totally clear, is it also about repairing the potholes.
Well, look absolutely, but the real focus here is preventing them. Oftenately, that's what we need to be doing, is preventing them. That's the resealing of the roads, rehabilitating them. Yes, we do also need to make sure when potholes do form that we get out there quickly and also make sure that they are repaired in a timely fashion to keep motorists safe on the roads. But the real focus here is on those really core activities which we want the MZTA and local councils focused on, which is resealing, rehabilitating and getting that water out of the roads by investing in the drainage to protect that asset and keep using on the safe.
On the roads.
Yeah, I think everyone can see that it makes a lot of sense to actually invest in the things that prevent them the potholes from forming in the first place. So last year you reckon sixty two thousand potholes. New Zealand had our highest number in ten years. How do they work that out?
Well, that was how many were recorded by MZTA is needing to be repaired on the state highway network last year, So their contractors are obviously out there all the time fixing the roads and getting fixing potholes as quickly as they can. That was the record number last year, and that shows that the fact is that we've got a growing number of potholes in the road, which means we're not doing a good enough job of actually resealing, rehabilitating and doing the drainage work to prevent them from forming in the first place. So that's why the focus here is ring fencing this fund into those activities which prevent those potholes from forming and to make sure our roads are safe to drive on.
So what information informed decisions around which regions got the biggest increase in their allocated funding.
Well, ultimately the New Zealand Transport Agencies Board makes these decisions. They are responsible for looking at the asset management plans councils and the agency puts forward and working out where the need is and then allocating the funds according to that need. So that's the agency's board. They look through the asset management plans, they test it, they look at what's been required in the past, what the issues are that are happening, and then they make those allocations based on that evidence.
So describe to us the state of New Zealand's roads three years from now.
Well, ultimately it's about making sure we've got a greater number of kilometers of road being resealed each year and rehabilitated each year. More investment in the drainage will which will see a reduction in the number of potholes on our roads, safer to drive on. And ultimately it's about good asset management. That's what it comes down to. We haven't been doing good asset management in recent years. We've taken the eye off the ball and it's about making sure there's a clear pipeline for agency and local council to invest in that core business of protecting that asset and making sure it's safe to drive on for New Zealanders.
Thanks for your time this evening. We appreciate it, Transport Minister Simeon Brown. Jack team, the Taxpayers Union wants the Privacy Commissioner to launch a four normal investigation into alleged misuse of census data and vaccination data for election campaigning by to Party Maudi John Tammahiti and the party deny all allegations. Stats n Z and Police are already investigating aspects of the alleged breaches, and this morning, Employment Representative Alan Holtz suggested on Mike Coskins Breakfast that various agencies were told of census data breaches but failed to act. Executive Director of the Taxpayer's Union, Jordan Williams.
Is with us.
Good evening, Good evening, Jack.
Why is the Privacy Commissioner the right one to look into all of this?
Well?
Earlier this week we called for the government to create a public inquiry under the Inquiries Act because there for two reasons. The first is that is it correct, as was suggested this morning on Mike Coskins Show with the interview with the Employment Advocate. Now that there have been numerous whistleblowers that have gone to the agency with that semest with that status zeal And with that the Electoral Commission, and maybe these allegations, it's not appropriate for those same agencies to be managing or running or even commissioning independent reviews into what's going on because at the end of the day, part of that review has to be how those whistleblowers were treated. Particularly our concern is around that censors stats in z data. The second point is that even if you have the independence of the review and it's set up with the right terms of reference to include the way officials handled it, they don't have the powers that a government at a public inquiry or the Privacy Commissioner has, and that is to be able to require the production of documents and information and subpoena third parties and interview them under oath, because that is essential if we're going to find out what has happened, because at the end of the day, this information is not in the government's hands. It's allegedly it's these you know, contracted parties to assist with the censors, et cetera. You know, that's where the information is. And only by having an investigation that includes the ability to be able to call them before interview the oath, are we going to find out what really happened with some public confidence.
Right, So it's a combination of the independence that would come with having the Privacy Commissioner, but also the Privacy Commissioner's powers to to compel evidence, to interview people under oath, that kind of thing. So what would there what?
Sorry?
And it is powerful, I mean that it is unusual powers unusual in New Zealand to be able to you know, it's it's the level of powers that almost the level that the Serious Fraud Office has. But because of this data, it is the most important from a from a you know, taxpayers perspective, public policy perspective, the census is so core function of government and most importantly the public having confidence that that data is protected. We think this does meet that threshold for the Privacy Commissioner to use those powers and take a good look and report back to the public either way, so that we can have confidence in the process.
I mean important to point out, like I said, earlier. John Tammerhitti and the party deny all allegations. So far they haven't made other public comments. But would it also be in the interests of those parties, given they claim they are innocent of any wrongdoing in this case, to also have the illumination that might come with the Privacy Commissioner overseeing an inquiry.
Yeah, I agree.
I think that the risks being the perception of something being political or perhaps the official is not wanting to get to the bottom of it if it has been. The degree of this is all too hard to go away. I think that it is in everyone's interest, including John Tammerherry, the Maori Party and the associated entities, to have the independence and clarity that I think, as I say, only a public inquiry or the Privacy Commissioner can provide. And I think that given the and probably rightly the unwillingness of the government to set up an inquiry when it involves a party in the opposition or an opposition party, I think again all rows of lead back to the Privacy Commissioner's office and this being the appropriate circumstances for him to launcher an investigation.
Thank you for your time.
This evening.
That is Jordan Williams, the executive director of the Taxpayers Union. Thanks for feedback as well. He to text pouring in our yas is Anthony. Yeah, Jack, more road cones.
This is the thing.
The same people moaning about the potholes are going to be moaning about road cones before you know it. Jack, You know what this means. Four billion dollars are standing at stop go signs for the next three years. It's ninety two. Ninety two is the text number if you want to flick a some message at sixteen past five upgrades. We all love them and now you can upgrade your car rental with Enterprise Rental Car. Enterprise Mobility is the biggest vehicle hire company in the world and they operate in more than ninety countries across more than nine thousand, five hundred branch locations internationally. They are an absolute giant in car rentals and now with seven new Kiwi run branches from Auckland down to Dunedin and Queenstown, you'll want to choose Enterprise Rental Car as your preferred car rental provider whether you're renting for business travel, heading off on a trip somewhere with your father or friends. The team that Enterprise know how to make the whole process easy and efficient, with great vehicles, a top notch service, and seriously competitive rates. Upgrades your car rental with Enterprise Rental Car for a superior journey. You can check it all out at their website Enterprise Rentalcar dot co dot nz. That's prizewndocar dot co dot Nz. Jack Team nineteen past five researchers in the US say that male birth control is on the way.
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They're making progress on a birth control for men that is long acting and reversible. The product under development is a hormonal gel that men rub on their shoulders. Doctor Brian Newan is an obstetrian guiding obstetrician gynecologist at the University of Southern California who worked on trials for the gel.
Good to be talking with you, Thanks for having me.
How does the gel work?
You know, start from the top. Basically, it's very similar to female hormonal contraceptive methods, and one of the best things about that is that we have so much experience with female hormonal contraceptives that we're very confident about the safety universability of male contraceptions. So essentially, the hormones give a signal up to the brain telling them bring to send signals down to the testes to stop the production of UH sperm. And what that means is that the entire factory is left intact. You're just telling the factory to stop the production. And that's basically it. So UH, these hormones, over the course of several weeks, UH in this case about you know, four to eight weeks, are able to suppress sperm down to you know, in many cases zero or what we call our criteria for male interceptions, which is at a million.
How does the application work? Why DoD? Why do mean rub the gel on these shoulders of all places?
Yeah, you know, in.
Thinking about you know, places to apply the gel, we're really thinking about how to avoid transference of the gel to uh, you know, a child or sexual partner. And so the shoulder seems like a really easy to access but also low transference risk area.
And in terms of effectiveness, how does it compare to say, a female contraceptive pill.
Yeah, it's a good question, right there. Are our trial is not necessarily like a head to head trial at this point, and we can't necessarily release the results of the prenancy prevention aspect of the trial. But we are very encouraged. We actually think that there are many aspects that are going to make this better than female hormoral contraceptives.
Are there any side effects?
Yeah, with all hormonal methods, we do expect sid effects, and in this case we're thinking about acne, weight gain, mood changes, libido changes. But again, when I say libido changes, right, that means it.
Can go up or down. Yeah, and we've had you know, very you know, positive.
You know, feedback from our participants.
Yeah.
How likely is it then, that you know, we might see this on the market sometime soon?
You know, people always talk about this whole five to ten year timeline. But if anything that that COVID has taught me is that, you know, with enough will of the people and enough need, you can speed things up quite fast. So I'm relying on folks like you to spread the word.
Do you reckon?
Guys are going to be into it? You know, Like I don't want to cast dispersions over forty nine point nine seven percent of our population, But you know, something just tells me that from a kind of attitude perspective, men might be slightly less responsible on this front.
You know, it's interesting, you know, for female contraception, we don't necessarily expect all women to want to use it either, and so to expect that a large swath of men are going to want to use it, it's kind of sitting in the bar a bit too high. But what does matter, though, right, is that there are men who are in committed relationships who have seen their female partners in dure side effects or just furious acts issues with contraception, and therefore they want to step in. And not to mention that there are men who you know, are more and more concerned about their own assets and want to be able to avoid the risk of unplanned pregnancy as well. You stn't hear about it very much until it's too leap.
Now, hey, thank you so much, Brian. We will watch this space with keen interest, no doubt. We appreciate your time. That is Dr Brian Dowing. Thanks Brian. There's doctor Brian Newan who's one of the researchers at the University of Southern California behind this new gaeil. We are all learning, aren't we. Twenty four past five.
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Be another day. Another broken campaign promise. That is what reporting from Richard Harmon and Politic suggest today after the government broke National's campaign promise to fund fifty places for student doctors at the Otago and Auckland med schools in twenty twenty five next year. So despite the pledge in the past his election manifesto, and it really couldn't have been clearer here go National will also increase the number of medical student placements at Auckland and Otago by a total of fifty from twenty twenty five. It's a direct quote, despite that pledge, despite the medical doctors not spin doctors promised throughout the campaign, just half of those fifty places, just twenty five places have actually been funded for next year. So why well? Speaking to Politics, Shane that he blamed capacity problems, but then both Otago and Auckland unis say they do have the capacity between them to take on more students and they'd been expecting fifty more places. The problem is surely not money. Despite the tight fiscal environment it would have cost about another half a million dollars to fund the places, which you would think, given our desperate shortage of doctors, would have been money well spent. Ockham's raiser therefore leads us to National's proposal to establish a new medical school at Wycuttle University. That was a campaign promised, despite critics suggesting the capital costs of establishing that school don't really make it worthwhile compared to simply boosting Otago and Auckland. Here's the thing, though, truthfully, in the eyes of the voting public, no reason, context or excuse is going to justify not funding more doctors when the medical schools say they have the capacity to train them. Doctors, police officers are cancer drugs. If you promise the stuff during a campaign, it has to be the absolute priority when you're in government to deliver. But add the training places to the cancer drugs and I'll tell you what the government seriously risks a reputation for failing to deliver.
Jack Team.
We will ask doctor Shane Vetti when he joins us very shortly about that. As well as the governments announcement today they're going to continue to fund free rat tests at least through to the end of September. They're currently expecting a bit of a surge in COVID cases so they can continue to fund those free rat tests. Will ask him how long for as well as that the Huddle will be with us this evening. Last about the male contracepting pill or male contraceptive, it's not getting a lot of support on the text machine, Jack, I wouldn't trust men to take those, not for a moment. I'm a woman, and I forget myself but me, and that'd be worse on your.
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But spat me New Stalks, Be you were, Jack Taman for Heather Duplicity Allen, she's gone off to party the radio awards along with most of our colleagues News Talks. He'd be up for gazillions of awards tonight. So fingers are very much firmly crossed for our colleagues. I know it won't take much success tonight for them to enjoy some robust celebrations after six o'clock this evening. Back to the future for B and Z. Really interesting news today the bank has announced all of its branches, all of them are going to be opening at least five days a week by about the middle of next year. Apparently this is in response to increasing customer demand to have face to face interactions as opposed to doing things over over the phone of a call centers, over the internet, that kind of thing. So we're going to take a look at that. We'll last huddle about that before six o'clock this evening. Tim Wilson and Mike Munroe are huddlers right now. It is twenty two minutes to six, Jack Team, and the government's buying up more COVID tests so we can keep getting them for free. Rapid antigen tests RAT tests will continue to be supplied to the public for free until the end of September. At this stage, the new rats will be bought with existing COVID nineteen response money. Shane Betti is the Health Minister and he's with us now.
Keilder now, Greg Ja, very good to speak with you again.
Why do we need to keep handing out free RAT tests?
Look, I know overseas they have had a co payment put on rat test, But just at this point in time, we think if we were to move to that that would need a more of a transition period than we have the luxury for at the moment where we've still got some rising rates of COVID. So the announcement we've made today is certainly through the winter period and we know we're at the greatest risk, will continue to maintain the eligibility that we have for free rat tests.
Is there evidence that people are actually using the free rat tests?
Look as I have seen some evidence of supply, I say, you know of demand of people actually commenting that there can be some supplies shoes because the demand has been high. So the answer to that is yes, as far as I can tell, certainly it seems that people are benefiting from the from the free rat test.
Yeah, right. Are people testing as regularly as they should be generally.
A little bits of an interesting question. I don't have any evidence for them, but I do sense there is certainly an appetite for New Zealanders to know if these symptoms they've got a COVID related or not, because I do believe they want to do the right thing and follow the isolation recommendations if they are. So that's every sense that I get.
So this funding goes through to the end of September, so that'll cover us for most of winter. If COVID cases are still tracking pretty high at that point, will you continue to fund free tests?
Yeah, we'll have to review that. Then, as you say, we want to get through this at risk period. What we know is that it's by modeal two peaks peak of mid year and end of year. It maintains its normal patterns, So this will pay through the September, which, if it follows its last history, would mean we'd be in a trough by a low incident area. So we'll we review that when we get to that point.
How much is this going to cost US?
Ten million dollars ten million?
You're spending thirty million on increasing access to radiology services as well. Just give us a bit of detailed there. What's actually were the money going?
What it mean?
Yeah, So what this will do is it will mean GPS will be able to order ultrasound and CT scans. And what this means is if there's no capacity in the public health system and the required timeline for those cts or ultrasound. Then they'll be referred to private radiology at no cost to the patient. This will have a huge range of outcomes. First of all, people will be able to see specialists with a more definitive diagnosis in their hands. Secondly, they'll have some reassurance. But even before they get to the specialist, because there was a bit of a wait time to get the first specialist assessment, the GP will already have a presumptive diagnosis subsequent to that radiology. And of course when they get to the specialist, they've got the information in hand. Because what often happens at the moment unfortunately, and a good example is ballstones or kidney stones. I suppose the same is you're referred to the specialist, you wait the first specialist assessment. Time you get there, he or she says, I think it's fullstones, go in and have an ultrasound or a CT. So you go back into the system, cycle back through, turnback of the first business assessment or second it would be with the result in your hand. Well, if we can cut out one of those, and that's backing and trusting GPS to have that expertise and knowledge how to make this call and the algorithms will help with it. Turn up your first vicious assessment with your presumptive diagnosis and your X rays in your hand, it's a much smoother pathway.
Minister, heading into the election, National promised fifty new places for students at med schools next year. You're only funding twenty five.
Why is that?
It's our intention to fund the rest of them over following budget cycles, but we just didn't have enough in help to do everything we needed to do once we confronted the one point seven seven billion farmat Cliff. That took a lot of funds out of the system and we needed to do that clearly, and so we were able to fund a half of verse fifty and we'll be looking to fund the remainder of the following budget cycles.
Wouldn't it be an absolute priority to boost our doctor stocks.
Yes, it would, but as we've said before, this is a seven to ten year plan. If we startop at metsicol seventy ten years before they're going to come out of the other end. Whereas working on the retention, there are some immigration things we can do. Those are the here and now issues that we have for doctor stock, but we sort of wanted to have the best of both. Grow the long term homegrown domestic pipeline a bit of the same breast. Look at these other other ways to manage our doctors.
All right, thanks for your time this evening. That is Health Minister Shane Bretty.
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On the huddle this evening. The director at Mike Munroe Communications, former staffer and Sindra Ardern and Hall and Clark's officers Mike Munroe and Tim Wilson of the Maxim Institute, Kelder Kordawa. Let's start off with the funding for doctors. I mean, I just I find it remarkable. I get it. We're not going to have those doctors for seven to ten years until they've finished their training. But given that cost would be about half a million dollars in the context of government expenditure, given the problems we're facing with the health workforce at the moment, aren't you surprised that that is the higher priority?
Tim?
Yeah, I am, I am.
It is a broken promise. It's clear that it's a broken promise, but in the context of things, it seems like a small promise. It's a bit like going to macers and you're saying everyone gets a big mac. Well, actually, no, you're going to get a mcfeast. It's probably not the end of the world on the on the scale of things, but it does fill out a narrative that you're alluding to a check, which is the series of broken promises. And I sort of think about the COVID test that you also talked with doctor Vessi about. It's like, you know, that's nine million bucks. You think you could take some free COVID tests and I don't know, directed towards the doctors.
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, this is a broken promise and that's pretty clear. But maybe of more concern is that we're not actually just funding another twenty five people to become doctors. Because I get it, maybe some of the short term short falls will be made up by improving the workforce with doctors from overseas and that kind of thing. MKE, but surely we want to actually be building our Capaca city as much as we can for the future.
Yeah, I agree, Jack. The shortfall numbers are alarming. The last lot I saw was talking about one thousand, seven hundred short for that was in March this year. That's expected to double or projected to double within the six or eight years. Look, fifty doctors is not a lot, but we do need everything we can get right now. And I can't believe that they the university's concerned, they about the space to accommodate extra trainees, So I can't believe that they wouldn't put the money into this. But the other problems on the lines of me too, is just a mess of mate of the arithmetic around arithmetic, around the budget. You know, I heard really say before that they just don't have enough this excycle well for cancer drugs hider and it comes back to the reckless promises they made in opposition about what they do in government. And now you know, chickens are coming home to roost much latest example.
So I mean, clearly there are some fiscal pretty significant fiscal pressures. But still for any government of the day, it's all a question of choices, right, does the government really need to be providing free COVID test Mike.
Yeah, I think I think that can be justified. I mean, COVID has still a major issue for the country. Yeah, and we've just experienced our highest peak since twenty twenty two, six thousand. I look, I've been reported every week. You know, it is still serious, and I think we're going to keep you shoulder the wheel of that one.
Okay, Tim, can I can?
I just can?
I sided a bit jumpy there. Look, do you guys know how much a five pack of COVID testers at the chemist warehouse?
Like eleven bucks something like that?
Seventeen bucks? So you're looking at seventeen bucks.
That's pretty expensive, is it not?
I mean, is it really?
But I just feel like there are a.
Lot of people who go, you know what, I don't want to spend that seventeen on COVID tests. I don't feel like I get anything out of that really, And that's.
Because and that's because I disagree with what doctor Retti said, which is that there's the same level, there's a similar level of urgency about this. I think there's a lower level of urgency and that's reflected in a whole lot of measures in terms of you know, people are actually I would say many people are here deliberately not testing because it's not seen and it's not seen as something that is as as dangerous as it used to be. For a variety of reasons, vaccination rates, it's gone through the population. The other thing is I would I would say that perhaps perhaps the urgency was overcooked in some of the COVID response that we got, and that's back to the previous government. Let's not go there.
Yeah, well we'll have plenty of time to discuss that, no doubt when, well, if they decide upon expanding the remit for the COVID inquiry. We're back with our huddle in a couple of minutes. Tim Wilson and Mike Munro. Right now it is thirteen to sex.
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You're back with a hardle Mike Munroe, Tim Wilson, our huddler's this evening and Mike, the pothole Police coming to a place near you. The Transport Minister announcing a total of four billion dollars in funding across a couple of different funds to prevent or to fix up and then prevent future potholes around the country. What do you think, Well, look, it.
Just seems an absurd amount of money. Actually, Jack, Look, maybe I don't get out of enough on the road. But is that pothole problem really that bad that it requires four billion dollars in total? Also, there's been nothing set today but where that money is coming from, there's no not much context an it. I mean, does this mean that other maintenance something is going to be cut? It just seems strange amount of money. It just comes on top of the fact that in the budget there's about three billion dollars whe it cuts to climate initiatives when you when you add them all up, and this is around the climate emergency response done and the TV owns cuts, et cetera. So it just comes back, you know, priorities, and I am concerned about the priorities of the government. They just ignoring the climate funding side of the occasion of the equation and just throwing everything at rage.
Yeah, term if the IF the texts or anything to go by this evening, those probably saying people have been upset about the potholes are preparing to be really upset by the number of orange road cones and stop go signs they're going to be encountering over the next couple of years.
It's true. There's yeah, I see a lot of road works. I don't see a lot of roads actually working, but that that's another story.
Look.
In January twenty twenty three, the Freight Transfert Association said that there was a record high number of potholes in the previous year, five hundred and fifty five complaints. I know, we say and look a bit like you might.
I don't.
I don't encounter a great deal of them. So I've actually spoke to people who drive further and longer, typically at work, and there is there is a sense that there's a sort of an annoyance. Not annoyance, it's actually like, golly, this could rip up my car. So I think it's it's it's a sensible thing. And also if it's if it's affecting our trendsport infrastructure, which a lot of stuff gets delivant by my trucks, then that that that helps the economy function tim.
Mood changes, acne, weight gain, potential changes in either direction when it comes to you, holidays or so. These are some of the potential side effects for the new male contraceptive that apparently is testing very well. We spoke to a research before who says they're hoping to have it on market relatively soon. What do you think as a man with well more children than he has fingers to count the mine I would have thought these days, is this something.
That Tim Wilson might consider that that is, that is that is not true? And look, I think I think it is a recognition that the female contraceptive pill is less than ideal. But can I just say that children are not sometimes disease to be medicated against their an absolute gift. You are confronted with all of your virtues and a whole bunch of your flaws and you have to somehow mediate it. Meanwhile, it's pouring out would love for you. I gave my eighteen months old also a kiss today and he put us tiny little arms around me and kissed me back, and it was the most beautiful thing. And by the way, we are facing a demographic collapse. So throw away the gel. Don't buy the damn gel.
Throw away the bills.
Let's have bought dan kid.
I knew Tim would have strong thoughts on that one. Thank you both so much for your time this evening. We really appreciated Thathardle, Mike Munro and Tim Wilson on.
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Said be right, just coming up to six o'clock on News Talks, he'd be thank you for all your texts and emails. We've had heaps come in regarding the new funding for pothole prevention, and I suppose that is an important point the minister made. It's not just for fixing up the potholes we have apparently they're about sixty two one thousand in New Zealand last year alone. Is actually for preventing them the future. So upgrading drainage systems around roads, that kind of thing, so that we don't get so many potholes. Most people would look at that and say, yep, that makes a lot of sense. Is it a four billion dollar problem? Well, that might depend on your own perspective, Mark, says Jack regarding the pothole action, Just imagine more and more roads with stop ghost signs, trucks that stop traffic every sixty meters or so. If this is supposed to improve our productivity, I fear it's going to have the opposite effect. Regarding COVID tests, Jack about time look at the COVID wastewater testing numbers. At the moment where you have a greater surge of COVID in this country than we've had in some time, it's true that COVID is certainly causing some issues. After six o'clock this evening, we're going to tell you about the plans from B and Z have just announced they're going to have all of their branches nationwide open five days a week. I know it's back to the future for B and Z, so they can explain why they're doing that when they join us after the news, plus why interest rates could be pushed back that little bit longer. News is next on News Dog ZB.
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News SOB with Jack Tame in four, Heather Duplicy Ellen, she's back. Tomorrow's son stress out too much. Before seven o'clock, we're going to go to Brad Olson from Infometrics. Infometrics has just upgraded their forecast for when the OCR is likely to be cut. They've pushed it back to February. Previously, they thought we might be in line for a cut at the end of this year, but looking at some of the rhetoric out of the rbn Z from the latest monetary policy statement, combined with that sticky domestic inflation and on tradable inflation, plus the government's plans around the budget and the fiscal trajectory. Brad Olson says they're now pushing back their trajections for a cut in February of next year. And I still reckon there's about a ten percent chance that we could see an increase to the ocr So he will be with us very shortly. Right now though it is eight minutes past six, and it's back to the future in a way, at the very least for ben Z. The bank today announced that all of its branches nationwide will open at least five days a week by April of next year. The bank says the move is a response to growing customer demand for more face to face interactions and Benz chief executive Dan Huggins is with us now. Good day, Dan, good Jack.
Thanks for having me us to talk to you.
Yeah, and us to be speaking with you. Talk us through the changes. What are you guys doing.
Well, Look, we've we've got about twenty three branches throughout the country that previously have been on reduced days, and we've heard from our customers, particularly small businesses, that they want to talk to our people more often. So we're opening them month for five day.
A week, so talk us through why they were working reduced days or reduced hours in the first place.
You know, probably four or five years ago, we saw that there was quite a big shift of demand towards online, towards digital and call center. So you know, we moved in response to that to put more people into those centers to support customers. Now we've taken the feedback and we are putting more people into our branches so we can also open those whilst sustaining the services and digital and those cour centers.
So you'll be sustaining those services. Does that mean that you'll be keeping the resource for the digital services and the call centers the same as it has been, that's right.
Yeah, So there's there's the resources that are in those areas, all of our people that are certain people in the cour centers and hundreds of people we've got supporting digital. They all stay, and then we're putting more people into the branches to get them open place.
And so why do you think why do you think attitudes have changed, just because at the end of the pandemic people went back to wanting face to face interactions.
Yeah, look, there's a little bit of that. There's there's also we've been growing the banks, We've got more customers, and also, you know, there are other things happening. There's a bit more scams to want a bit more face to face contact. You know, there's certainly been a change in interest rates. So with mortgage, is actually that that face to face conversation is very very helpful for people?
Oh that's interesting. So what are the sort of main things that people are actually coming into for those in those personal interactions. Is it stuff around mortgages.
For the for the personal side of you, it's things around mortgages and help with transactional accounts, cash flow management, and now on the small business side, you know, it's how do I grow my business? How do I manage cash flows?
Again?
And what is the kind of sense that you are getting from around those branches around the country as to as to how people are feeling in this economic moment.
Look, it's it's hard.
I think that's that's the message that we're seeing from customers. I think many people are getting by but they're having to make really tough decisions about how they manage their cash flow so that they can so that they can get through. But it's certainly pretty challenging out there for everyone.
Do you see anything to feel kind of positive or optimistic about on the horizon?
Look, I mean, we're certainly on over the medium term, really optimistic about New Zealand. We've got amazing people who are super innovative, great businesses. So over the medium term we've got huge comfort in New Zealand and huge aspirations for Kiwis and how the economy will compete globally and grow. But it's a difficult period of adjustment as we're trying to get inflation down into that band and obviously interest rates to high and having an impact on people throughout it.
Yeah, it's really tricky. So it's a staggered transition for your branches around the country. They're going to be open from nine point thirty until four, minimum of five days a week, and you're going to be starting off with some of your branches in Regional New Zealand.
Right, that's right. Yeah, So there's seven branches throughout Regional New Zealand. Some branches are open seven days a week, so all the branches will be open at least five, but there's obviously some throughout the country that are open seven. We've said April, and we'd like to have it done next year, but we're going to try and do it much faster than that. It just all depends on hiring people and chaining them up, so that's the timing thing there, but hopefully we'll get done a bit faster than that.
Yeah, fantastic, Hey, thanks so much, Dan, really appreciate your times. Dan Huggins, who is the CEO of b n Z. Right now, it's twelve minutes past six, crunching the numbers.
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If you want to flick us and oes, you can. It's very easy. Ninety two ninety two is the text number you can email me as well. Jacket Newstalks, dB dot co dot in Z. I'm gonna get your messages very shortly right now though, it's called to past six and good news. If you're looking at the price of petrol and you're thinking you might fill up your car sometime soon, well, the price of oil should be coming down shortly. The price of Brent crude has been trending down over the past week and it may still have some way to go. Liam dan Is, The Herald's Business editor at large. Gooday, hi Jack, So where's the price at now?
Well, it's still sitting about seventy eight something for a barrel of Brent crude if that's what you feel like getting for yourself US seventy eight. That's you know, good news for motorists, right because it's below eighty and we saw it slump about six or seven percent at the weekend, so you know that was to do with weird stuff like Opek trying to sort of consolidate its production cuts and then not impressing the markets with how heavily they consolidated them. So you'd think it would go up, but it didn't.
It went down.
And there's some numbers out of the US on US production that was strong. But oil has been coming off since the start of the quarter. Which is also kind of good news on the inflation fight. You know, they need to go into it all, but obviously oil flows for everything still. You know, we want to see renewable energy and all that stuff, but actually, you know everything in the economy is underpinned by the price of oil transporting all your goods and you know, manufacturing of plastics.
And all that stuff.
So that's quite good news on maybe what'd call the tradable side of inflation. I know the Reserve Bank can't get excited about that yet because it a could move back up and be there focused on the non tradable bit, the bit of New Zealand, you know, the wages and assurance prices and all that sort.
Of stuff, rates and that sort of thing. Yeah, right, So how fast should we expect the fuel companies to pass on any savings?
If they do, I think, I look, this is me putting the acid on the look. Yes, I think that we should see the pump price continue to fall a bit through the next week. It takes a while to flow through, but not not that long. I mean, it's pretty immediate commodity price then, compared to something like dairy prices, where it can take months for it to go from the what we see in the Fonterra auction thing through to the through your block of cheese. Petrol transmits pretty quickly. The New Zealand dollar has been a bit stronger for percent up I think in the past month if I'm remembering the ben z en note correctly, and I look at that the website gaspy and you know, so we're oil prices off for abound fourteen percent since the start of the quarter. Two months we've seen that so far according to gas by the you know, in the last month unleaded ninety ones down about.
Six and a half percent.
So it's not bad.
That's a reasonable pass through, but it doesn't shouldn't have captured yet what we saw at the weekend. So that's you know, maybe a suggestion that you haven't filled up yet. Wait a couple of days. Yeah, hopefully it's a bit better, a bit better.
Is it gaspy?
Gaspy as well? I'm looking.
I always thought it was gas spy could be because it not gaspy. I've been saying gas by all these years. I've been saying, one of us is going to be right, one of us. There's nothing else or gas.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, look I look at the website. Yeah, gasp.
By yeah, I mean it is about gas, isn't it. You're probably spying. Yeah, no, well I'm usually wrong with these things.
It's a good pun play on words, which was totally.
By Okay, if you know, please let us know. Is it gas your guess? By ninety two ninety two, there's some yeah, I mean if indeed we do see a bit of a fall at the pump, I mean right across the board. Given you know that, as you said, oil passes through everything. This is ultimately going to be a little bit of good news in that fight for inflation. But it's the non tradables of the domestic stuff that's still kind of sticky.
Yeah, you can get into the weeds on that stuff.
They do.
They do sort of cross pollinate a bit.
But you know, oil price doesn't hit rents, for example, It doesn't necessarily hit.
Rates for it.
No, I mean, it's an influence when it's spiked up above. I think it got tow one hundred and twenty something US dollars a barrel in twenty twenty two. It obviously was one of the sparks that you know, drove that really high inflation. You know, the financial the economic purists will tell you it's all money supply. I think it's a bit of a bit of a mixture. But you know that the price we play pay for commodities is very much a real world part of the price that feeds into everything.
I appreciate your time.
Thank you very much. Liam.
That is Liam Dan, the nz heral to business or at large.
I think, oh man, I.
Think we could be both wrong. I see I always thought it was gas By. Liam rinkins it's gas By, and just pointed out that it could be a combination of those two.
So sure it's Gasby because I remember speaking to one of the guys from Gasby a few years I'm sure that's what he taught me.
I think you're right.
I think you're right. Like because gas it's definitely gas. Your one's more logical rights because that's what you do. But it just doesn't roll off the tongue, you know, gasbee, it's just one.
Yeah it's gas, you know, yes, yeah, so gas dash p ee for pronunciation purposes. If we're wrong, please let us know. Hey, in case you didn't see it. Today, we have a new silver medal, a new second place for the world's second most valuable company at least publicly listed company. So it used to be Apple, Microsoft's top of the pops at the moment in terms of market cap, now in second place in video and it is incredible. So over the last just the last few months, I think even from the start of this year, and Vidia has gone from a market cap of two trillion US dollars two thousand billion to three trillion US dollars three thousand billion dollars. That is just incredible for a company that makes chips and you know, started out making video chips for video making chips for video games and is now of course on the forefront of AI. So in video, now the second most valuable publicly the company in the world by market cap. That really is incredible. Twenty one past six.
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The Rule report on the Heather Duper Clan Drive with N's Kofoods New Zealand's Finest Beef and Lamb.
Jamie McKay as the host of the Country and Jamie, I think it's just you and I while all of our colleagues are living it up at the Radio Awards. You and I grafting away as per.
Well, Jack, that might.
Think because I don't know about you, but I didn't make the finals, and I'm just thinking to myself, what's the Hosk got, or Heather for that matter, because you're filling in for her. What have they got that we haven't got? It doesn't appear obvious to me, Jack.
I think we can just slip it round Jamie. I mean, you ask yourself for this, what's the host going to have that you don't have in about six months when you've got a few letters after your name, Because I mean, hey, congratulations.
Oh well, thank you, thank you very much for that.
Mind you, Jack.
Just on the subject of radio awards and knowing I was speaking to you today, I was trying to I think I've made in thirty years of radio two finals, so not a great strike great to be honest, Jack, But I I'm in the same category as the Hoskin here.
But one year I did make it.
The finalists were myself, yourself and Larry Williams, the bloke who used to run the show, and neither and you and I were also rams, Jack, and I'm not quite sure who got second and who got third. They didn't announce that, but I'm going age before beauty and claiming second player.
You know what, I'm very happy to accept that result as well. I think that sounds about for you. Speaking of awards, the Rural King's Birthday Honors recipet and the highest accolade went to Vincent Ashworth.
Yeah, this is a good story. I was going to tell this one to Heather on Tuesday, but she was too busy giving me stick about my gong. So look, this is the guy who was the well, as you said, had the highest accolades.
Great story.
He got a Companion of the New Zealand Order of Merit for services to Agriculture for services in New Zealand and internationally. His work dates back to nineteen seventy. He was a senior agriculturist with the World Bank. He led missions to help farmers with food production and more than thirty developing countries. Notably, he spent time in really harsh farming environments such as Afghanistan, Yemen, Ethiopia. There's a place that needs some farming advice helping them out. He launched the New Zealand Society of Farm Management in nineteen sixty nine, serving as the inaugural president thousands of farmers over the years have benefited from his findings or their fine for their practices. He was a member of To Save the Children's New Zealand Overseas Projects Committee for a decade back in the seventies and eighties. And he's a life member. If that's not enough, a life member of the New Zealand Institute of Primary Industry Management and the New Zealand Institute of Agricultural Science. What a legend. Well done, Vincent Ashra.
Oh yeah, that's amazing, that's really special. Did some really interesting data today, Ken, We living rurally have significantly higher mortality rates from preventable causes and alarmingly high rates of suicide.
Yeah, and just look at that suicide rate, Jack, And this is one I have done quite a bit of work on this one with the likes of farm Strong or help facilitate what they're doing through my radio show. Suicide rates for males aged fifteen to forty four. I apologize if I'm repeating these numbers, but they are sobering sixty four percent higher in rural areas than in cities. Look the Statstone, the stats Stone Stacker for mara younger than thirty living remotely. They're twice is likely to die of preventable causes than their urban counterparts. Non Malory thirty to forty living rurally one point eight times more likely to die from a preventable cause. And the kicker here is that saying that you know tally health and a lot of us are getting into health via technology isn't a solution. Because hes some more shocking numbers for you, Jack. Only seventy four point two percent of rural households had access to the Internet.
That's a shocking number.
Shocking, And only.
Sixty four point six percent of some communities had access to a mobile phone. I know that reception is an issue around some of the more remote parts of the country, but we are Jack, unfortunately when it comes to these sort of numbers, a country of haves and have nots.
Yeah, yeah, Hey, thank you so much for your time, Jamie on that sobering Noe appreciate it. Hope, even though you're not there tonight, you will be celebrating in some other way. And congratulations once again, Jammy McKay. They're the host of the country. After six thirty, we're going to take you to the UK. They've just released a new poll ahead of the UK general election, and it is bad news for the Tories. No, Labor hasn't had a massive surge. It is Nigel Farage. A massive surch for Nigel Faras. So I'll give you the numbers on that very shortly.
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Good news is that Liam Dan and I aren't the only ones going back and forth on the pronunciation of gas spy versus gas B versus gasby I mean somebody Dixon from every one episode convinced that their way of pronouncing it is correct. The only problem is that all of them are suggesting different pronunciations, so I'm not sure that we're necessarily any closer. If you can shed some light, please please do. Nine ninety two is the text under this evening before seven o'clock will take you to the UK. They've just been marking D Day celebrations, so we'll tell you how that has all unfolded right now, though it is twenty four minutes to seven.
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And bad News if you're longing for Morga rates to come down sometime soon. Infometrics has just updated its forecasts and now doesn't think the Reserve Bank will drop the official cash rate until February of next year. It had previously predicted that rates would start coming down in November. Brad Olsen is Infometrics principal economists Kyolder Yolder, Why have you moved out the date?
Well, we keep looking out at the economy and probably more importantly, at how the Reserve Bank is viewing the economy, and we just can't support our previous view. We thought it was going to be November that the Reserve Bank would have enough information to start to make those cuts. We've now formally pushed that out to February next year, just given how intense that non tradable's inflation has been, that domestically based pressure. But we are, I guess a little bit worried. We're a little bit almost in two minds over this. But we've looked at how strong the Reserve Bank's view has been so far, you know, looking at all of their forecasts and their expectations. We just can't see them moving all that quickly. They're pretty persistent over their view, they need to get inflation down lower. They haven't got that evidence yet, And if they haven't got that evidence, we can't really go out and say we think they'll move ahead of time, because they most likely probably won't.
What about fiscal policy, how is the budget factoring in your forecasts?
Well, and that's the other thing that sorts of it seems to come through. I mean, if you look at the budget, I think overall, even the Treasury's numbers show that the government spending over time share should be sort of more contractionery. It shouldn't add nearly as much into the economy as it previously might have. So that's a good thing over the long term. The issue is given how much more challenging the economy looks like it will be, you know, with those higher interest rates for longer. Even the Treasury said also that you know that near term fiscal impulse might be slightly more positive. If I'm the Reserve Bank and I'm already worried about inflation remaining too persistent, They're probably going to have a bit of a black mark against that. So looking at all of that, we can't see any justification for the Reserve Bank needing to raise interest rates. Again, we still don't discount it because we think that they're so worried at the moment we've got a ten percent chance, so they might have to, but so far we're sort of of the view that, look, it just pushes it out. I still don't think it has to take till September or whenever in twenty twenty five that the Reserve Bank is sort of forecasting on their official cash rate track. But it's just that pressure that's in the economy. Economic activity has pulled back, inflation's taking longer to get there. That means that interest rates will also take longer to come down.
Ten percent is not nothing, Brad that nervous. I'd I'd be much every if it was zero point teen percent.
Oh, I absolutely agree, And trust me, there was a lot of conversation in our team around you know, is that is that justified? And we looked at it and we just went, well, we sort of has to because the fact that the Reserve Bank not only has listed their official cash rate forecast, we could almost get away from that that you know, the Reserve Bank's been saying look it's mechanistic and almost saying look it's a forecast, but don't believe our forecast, which is hard to interpret in of itself, but the fact they did that and also said in their official record of meeting they said, hey, guys, we actually did think about putting it up. What are we supposed to look at? I mean, the Reserve Bank lifts their track, they talk about how they thought about raising it. It's a pretty strong signal to me that they haven't discounted it. And if they haven't, then we sure can't.
It's interesting, you know, Adrian All made it pretty clear last month with that last monetary policy statement that when you think about the non tradeables that the domestic inflation stuff like rates, stuff like insurance rent prices that are contributing, you know, massively to that high non tradeables numbers at five point eight or something at the moment. So what are his chances of trying to trying to stop those rises?
Well?
And I think so. I mean, the Governor's made some interesting remarks on that because he almost seemed to imply that their banks thought they could get some of those things under control. You're not going to use monetary policy to get local government rates under control. You're probably not going to get them to shift insurance premiums and similar either. What it's more likely to do is that if those things remain high, then the Reserve Bank might well have to keep sort of pressing harder on the other parts of the economy to get that aggurate inflation pressure down. I think, I mean, to be fair, they've been looking through at those non tradables and saying it's not just these big sawny things. There's enough general pressure in there as well. So what they'll probably want to see is that they if they can't influence some of those big thorny bits, they'll want to see the rest of non tradeables pull back. They'll also sort of need to see more generally, probably that hit on consumption. If people aren't spending as much over time, businesses just shouldn't be able to pass through those costs quite as much. They'll be worried about losing market share and cash flow, so that should filter through. But I think the Reserve Bank has sort of said that, Look, they're nervous about that because it just hasn't come down as quickly. You know, you've had other central banks around the world they have been able to get their core inflation down. We haven't managed to achieve that yet, and to be fair, until that happens, if I'm the Reserve Bank, I'm still going I'm not confident enough about hitting my target, and until that happens, I'm not shifting my position.
Yeah, hey, thanks Brad. Always appreciate your insights. That is Brad Olsen. That is Brad Olsen. And for Metrix principal economist, Yes, slightly depressing years. I suppose ten percent is ten percent, but still, I mean, it would be a very bold call. It would be a very bold cor and it'll be interesting to see what happens with the next CPI numbers come up, that what the domestic inflation number is looking like, because it would be a bold call for the RBNZ to hike, even if only by another twenty five basis points given the state of the country and economy right now. Very good news from the radio Awards where many of our colleagues are celebrating this evening. This is going to come as a huge shock. I'm sure best talk presenter Breakfast or Drive has been named as none other than mister Mike Hosking for twenty twenty four. Oh so that is absolutely fantastic news. I'm sure all of our colleagues will be celebrating the Hoscar success tonight right now to seventeen to seven on news doorg zb.
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Oh Hi and a are you there hey, Jack Clauden Claire, How are you?
Yeah?
Very well, thank you? How you've got an update on the medal McKain situation for us?
Yes, So this story and this ongoing case makes the papers yet again here today because a German detective has given just a few words in public about the case. There is a man on trial for a string of sex attacks at the turn of the century early two thousands. His name is Christian Bruckner. He denies the charges and that trial is still ongoing in Germany, and a detective involved on the German police inside has said now publicly that they have discovered a hotmail account and an external hard drive and he said that contains evidence linking Bruckner they believe to the disappearance of Madeline McCann. So this is the first kind of public acknowledgment of any of the evidence. We've long suspected that the German police know an awful lot more than obviously they're going to tell the public, but this is the first time they've acknowledged that they do have a link between this guy Bruckner and the disappearance of Madeline McCann. Now, Quinn pushed the detective did not reveal what was in the emails or what is on the hard drive, but it's clear he is the main suspect.
At eighty years eighty years since the day, and of course that anniversary has been commemorated.
Yes, so it's a huge day ahead. You'll see a lot of live coverage news events coming from Normandy in the next four or five hours. There are handful of men and women who were there still alive. Some of them are past one hundred now and they have traveled all the way back to Normandy. So in all honesty, Jack, this is probably the last big commemoration of D Day with veterans present. I've been listening to their stories on radio this morning. Extraordinary men and women, what they did, what they went through, what they gave for Europe and the world eighty years ago today it was the single defining moment really of World War Two, swung everything in the Allies favor and King Charles will be there later today. The Prime Minister Rishi Sunaku's traveling as well, and we're told Joe Biden has flown in from the United States. So a huge, huge event and it was interesting. Charles spoke at an event on the South coast in England yesterday, surrounded by veterans and he was visibly overcome with the motion as he sat down after speaking, wiping tears from his eyes. I think it was all a bit too much for Charles.
Yeah, and.
How's that sort of how will this event do you think be seen by younger generations in the like? You know, what does the how does a generational divide play into today? Or you know, is there a scence that younger generations appreciate the significance?
Well, I think when we've got war in Europe on our doorsteps, not two and a half hours out of London in Ukraine at the moment, I think it's very fitting that we should observe and pay tribute to these men and women and what they did in the face of utter tyranny eighty years ago. It is happening to European neighbors of ours not that far away right now. So I think anyone who anyone who doesn't listen or watch this today just needs to think. You know, we have situations in Europe at the moment that could spiral even further and come closer to our doorsteps.
And of course we are into the UK election campaign and there has been a huge boost for Nigel Farage in the latest pol.
Yes, so his party is now called Reform. This was born out of UKIP and breaksis and everything he helped deliver over the course of the last eight years. He is now standing for parliament, which is a big deal certainly in the media bubble. Will he get elected eight time? Looky, he's run for parliament seven times here and he's never got in, so it'd be interesting to see if he does. This latest poll has Reform on seventeen percent Why is that important? The Conservative Party, the ruling party of government right now on this poll are nineteen percentage point, So there's a two percentage point gap between these upstarts as some would see it. They are very right wing Reform and the Conservatives, And I think Richie's next big headache is that reform voters will traditionally be older people who have always voted conservative and are now disgruntled with him and forage everywhere he goes. He even gets hit with a milkshake the other day, laughed at all, smile, gave interviews, just keeps going. Sunak has problems.
Yeah, so does this affect Labor's position hitting into the ediction, you know, meaningfully? Or is there are scenes that all of the support for Raj in reform is ostensibly coming from people who would have otherwise been Tory voters.
Yeah, I think you're right, Jack. I think Labor won't be worried about Faraj and the slightest, but they will benefit from him because in key seats, and it will get really key in some places, you know, floating voters, elderly conservatives, if they desert sooner and give their vote to reform, that strengthens Labor. So Labor candidates I don't think will be that bothered about reform really, maybe in one or two seats up north, but I think overall they will be rubbing their hands with glee and just delighted that the Conservative vote could splinter. Now, these poles may well be wrong, but as it stands, Keir Starmer is nailed on to be Brits Prime Minister on July the fifth, if you believe the poles.
Yeah, yeah, that's right. As we've learned in recent years, there's always a big ifs. But I mean, certainly the Labor goes into this campaign with a huge, huge lead. They're being said. You know that the campaigns so far as an interesting in terms of momentum, right because those first couple of days were terrible for issue. Sooner he'd announce the election and the pouring rat you had the song playing in the background. He went over to Ireland, ended up doing a press conference in the Titanic, the former Titanic neighborhood, which was, you know, a kind of visual disaster for him. But I would have thought that he was benefiting from a little bit of momentum out of that televised debate with Kostama the other day and preps. This poll has kind of deflated him from you know, whatevern momentum he might have been enjoying in the last day or two.
Yeah, I think you're right, Jack. I watched the TV debate and I think Suna behaved like a boxer in the twelfth round who's just been told by his corner that the previous eleven rounds have gone to the other guy and you need to land the knockout punch. So he was extremely aggressive from the get go, talked over Starmer, talked over the moderator as well a Julie Etchingham. You know, he was very aggressive and quite rude, I thought, and it really struck me the body language and Sunak how he behaved. I thought, you know, two years almost as Prime Minister, we've never seen him behave like this. He just looked a little bit desperate and adrift. And the one thing he did say labor and now denouncing as a massive lie four thousand dollars per person tax trize if labor get in labor, or saying this is an outrageous life.
Yeah, yeah, Hey, thank you so much for your time, Indo, we really appreciate it. UK correspondent into Brady. There the boss has just walked in fresh from the Radio Awards, holding a gong underneath his arm Best Network Station of the Year, Yep, you guessed it.
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Very good, oh, very good, Thank you so much for that Antser. Christmas must be expensive for Sir Rod, but it puts Tempilson to shame, really, doesn't it certainly does. He won't be needing any of that special gel. Thank you so much, jas, Thanks to Laura for doing the tough stuff. Thanks to Livy for doing the buttons and dials. This evening head us back tomorrow. News is next, though it is almost seven o'clock. I'm Jake Tamman.
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