On the Heather du Plessis-Allan Drive Full Show Podcast for Friday, 21 March 2025, the Government is vowing changes are coming to the building consent process.. after revelations that two in three approvals are delayed.
The Warehouse boss tells Ryan Bridge how he managed to lead the company back to profit.
Celebrity chef Al Brown explains why he's not serving Bluff oysters this year.
Plus, Ryan comes under fire for his controversial ranking of this weekend's sports offering.
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That'd be good afternoon seven after four twenty first of March or Friday afternoon. Great to have your company two and three Building consent decisions are delayed? Whose fault is that? How do we fixed it? In the minister on after five o'clock. We are also going to look at the warehouse. Good result for them for today and does that mean that the company has finally turned a corner, turned themselves around. Ol Brown will tell us why he's not serving bluss bluff oysters, and we'll also head up the UK and Asia Bryan Bridge. If you don't like sport, then you're not going to like this weekend. It's everywhere, all at once, every code, every genre, every stadium, every jocular commentator chomping at the bit to call the shots. We've got the All Whites, we've got the Warriors, we've got Liam Lawson, the black Caps, Super Rugby and the Speedway. Of course, let's not forget the Speedway. It's the athletic equivalent of a tropical storm this weekend and we're all getting wet. We'll be drowning in updates from penalty shootouts. We'll have extra time, we'll have blow by blows of that rug up in your merchandise and your branded brollies. It's all happening this weekend, particularly in Auckland. And the thing about sport I was thinking this afternoon is that it's not like everybody likes one sport. Nobody likes all sports. You like one and you watch it a lot. My dad is a rugby guy, he won't watch football. I've got a friend, Heidi, who loves the Warriors. She's a Warriors girl, but she wouldn't watch Liam Lawson. It's not a jack of all trades things sports is, unless you're a sports broadcaster. I guess I suppose we can ask Darcy about that later on. So what I thought I would do is break down which is the best one for you this weekend and which sport is the worst one. And I'll be using a very simple criteria. How long is it, how exciting is it and how easy is it to understand? Very simple. We can easily straight off the bat dismiss cricket, even though it's T twenty, which many ill informed non sports people assume means a twenty minute cap. It doesn't. In fact, there is no time limit. These things can run for four hours, and who has time to sit around for four hours? Nobody, and not the fittest, most able, should be forced to sit on a seat for that long. Is especially a seat that's about as comfortable as a public toilet or a park bench. No back support at that stadium, no footstool, no cushions, nothing's adjustable. It's a recipe for spinal injury. Yes, there are exciting bits in cricket, but waiting for thirty minutes to see three seconds of it is not it for me. And I haven't even got to the biggest problem yet, the rules and the scoring, and you will know what I'm talking about. It should be simple. It should be hey, who's winning? How much longer left to go? And you should be able to say black Caps ten minutes? You know? Instead, it's where three from four and we're chasing one fifty and blah blah blah. I don't know what that means. It's absurd. If you haven't got a saw back or you haven't got you know, arthritis. By now you've got a sore head from trying to figure out who's winning. So there we go. If you weren't sure what to watch this weekend, hopefully this has been of some help to you. The answer is basically not. Cricket Warriors is great, so for rugby, great Liam Lawson, great Speedway, great last chance at Wessons Brings. By the way, take you pick easy breezy. If you are a cricket fan and you are going to the game, good luck with all your back problems. Eleven after four Bridge. They'd be appreciate your feedback. Nine two nine two is the number to text, and Darcy will of course be here. I'm sure there's something to say a little later on. Right now, we're going to go across the Tasman the equivalent there of the Commerce Commission has said to the Aussies, you're getting a raw deal from your supermarkets, and we often look to Australia as almost the panacea of supermarket operations. Will not so, Apparently, the Australian Competition Consumer Commission, the agable see, has found the big chains, along with the discount rival Aldi, are among the most profitable supermarket businesses in the world and the sector requires widespread reform. Nick Hogan Dyke is a retail consultant over there and he's with me this afternoon. Get a Nick, Hi, how are you? I see Cole's has already come out and said, actually, you guys don't know what you're talking about. That you calculated our margins and correctly.
That sounds a lot like Foodstuffs and Wolworstht New Zealand a couple of years ago with the grocery market study, doesn't it.
So who's right? I mean, do they have a point? Does the Commerce Commission or the A Triple C in your case actually know what they're talking about?
Oh? Look, I think they do.
I think the issue is that their powers are actually quite limited, so they can make a lot of statements and they can't actually enforce them and see them through.
And this is a prime example here with.
The A trible C in Australia, Wolworths and Coals are operating in what is not a dyopoly because of the fact we have cost Co and Aalde here as well, and to a lesser degree in met Cash.
But the reality is is still an oligopoly.
And they do have a significant market share of you know, seventy plus share of the share of mouth, if you like, in terms of everyone what they buy and they.
Eat when they go home and unpack their groceries.
And the reality is that they do have as a result of the power that they have, they're able to enforce themselves upon not only the suppliers that work with them, but also the consumers or shoppers who buy oft them.
So what hope do we have then, Because the answer to our all of our problems, we're told is another supermarket chain. You've got one and it's still bad.
Well, we do.
Have another chain, but they are a discander, so they're not a full service supermarket in the same sense that you have with a Pack and Save or a New World or a Woolworths or Coals, et cetera. So Costco is a retailer who happens to sell grocery products.
They are not a grocery store. Aldi is a store.
That has somewhere in the vicinity of one thousand to two thousand products depending on their range at the time, and the and the aisle down the middle with their special buyers that typically aren't grocery products either.
So versus a supermarket like a New World or a wol Worth or of Coals that'll have twenty five to thirty thirty five thousand SKUs or products on their shelves. They're a very different proposition.
So you know, if you look at the New Zealand market, then yes, do you need a third infant or do you need to break up the existing duopoly and create it into three or four retailers. Most likely that's going to give you some some relief. But what you've one of the most important things is actually how you go about governing that moving forward, because at the moment, as you see with Walworths and Coals, as you see with Foodstuffs Northoland in particular, and Warlworst New Zealand, they're not really competing against one another because they don't have to. So whilst they may not have a gentleman's agreement between one another, they do typically you know, not press the envelope too hard because you're talking about four of the most profitable supermarket businesses in the world per square met.
But is that because we're so far down the bottom of the world, our populations are so much smaller that these big companies that we need to come here that are full services you put at just uninterested.
Well I don't.
Well, yes, look I spoke to someone senior at Aldi sometime ago during the course of the market study, trying to convince them that they need to look at New Zealand. And one of the challenges they place is, well, there's eighty four million people in the Philippines.
Why would I go to five million people?
Now, that's so there may need to be some incentives there, but if you don't look overseas, then how do you bust them up and get people locally to take on that responsibility? You know, the reality is that there's ten percent of the grocery products to give or take in New Zealand aren't from Woolworths and food stuff's in New Zealand. So you know there is a if you look at the size of the market, that's what a one point three to one point six billion dollar.
Business that you could have. Someone offered me one of those, I'd take it.
Yeah, But the problem is the more I mean, because what they are will see is talking about what the ComCom here is talking about is more greater regulation and that inevitably will mean higher prices. And I mean if you start breaking them up, like running a supermarket will never be more profitable than it is right now in Australia and New Zealand. And even with that being the case, we still can't attract new entrants.
You know, yes, look and I think that the barriers to entry, but particularly in New Zealand is the land aspect as well.
You know, you're.
Geographically you've got a very densely populated couple of pockets of your country and then the rest of the country is fairly sparsely populated. So it's also navigating that through. But if you can't get access to land, how do your sites? How do you then open up a supermarket chain? So therefore the bust up is probably the most logical solution in New Zealand if you look at it on place value. The challenge you've got of it with that, of course, is that you can't tell me that the lights of Wilworth and Chris green Coo aren't going to go straight to court to translate that and stave that off.
Exactly, Nick, good point, Thank you very much for that. Nick Hogan Dark who's a retail consultant out of Australia. On this ahablec reporting to supermarkets there. It's just gone sixteen after.
Four bran Bridge.
Now lots of texts are coming in about the cricket, well about sport this weekend generally, but before I get to those asually what I might do to save those until Darcy's coming in. But I've just got some news to hand from the UK. This is quite serious and disruptive news. Hethrow Airport is going to be closed for the whole day Friday today. The airport says this is a response to a significant power outage linked to a fire at an electrical substation, expected to create a massive headache for travelers too and from the UK, probably all over Europe. And imagine we'll get more information to you as it comes to hand, and Darcy's next, long with your texts on Sport.
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News Talks eb It is nineteen minutes after four. Chris says, Ryan, I would rather punch myself in the groin than watch cricket. Ryan, you didn't mention the Sailing GP, which is a great watch and is actually on this weekend as well. I've just been listening off all the sport that's on this weekend. Oh my goodness, this is an absolute load of crap. You're talking about here getting a spinal injury from sitting in a sports stadium because cricket takes too long. Get real, mate, I'm sorry I was. I was having a little bit of a laugh at that. But it does take a long time, doesn't it, which is part of the problem I have with cricket. Twenty after four Bryan Bridge Charsi's here, hey, Darcy, if you don't like it, don't watch it, and I won't. It's pretty simple, exactly, But I'm here to give him abeus, Darcy, and I've given It's an.
Opinion, Bass though. What I'm interested to know is were you referencing T twenty cricket one day to Nashtareen Test cricket. So the shortest, fastest, quickest version.
Still too long long for you?
This is the thing an ADHD kid like me, I was.
Actually reading this afternoons in preparation for the show. Was reading just the numbers for those longer formats now compared to the T twenty, I mean, it's almost fallen off a cliff, isn't it.
Yeah, So it's getting lesser, I think because this generation, this day and age, they want instant fixt that's what they're used to, whereas some of us longer and the tooth really enjoy the slow process.
It's like, I'll talk your language.
It's like a degas station menu with a with a matching wine menu right right the way through. It takes all night, and it's really tasting, really enjoyable and really satisfying. And then you go to T twenty, which is like Ana McDonald's. It satisfies you for a couple of minutes. Then you're like, oh god, what I read that for. So the long version is more satisfactory in the long term.
Because it tes to ease into it. Am I talking your language now or not?
Not? Really nice?
Engage in special manufact.
No, I'm not actually not a big foody either.
Anyway, Wow, crazy All.
Whites are playing Fiji. This is a World Cup qualifier at seven.
Yeah, they're playing Figi.
They should win and that means they'll play a final on Monday, and they win that they're going straight to the World Cup, which is a big deal because it is the World Cup. But it used to be thirty six teams and now it's forty eight teams and I think it's going to be sixty four teams.
It just goes on and.
On and it's not as significant to qualify as that when you've only got to be not as much.
But it is still going to a World Cup. But I think that football fans and football players they want to be involved in the biggest party in football once every four years.
So yeah, it is relevant, right.
And the Warriors they are playing the Roosters at eight. Now, I went last weekend when everyone said they'd lose.
Was that for you?
That was fun?
How sore was your backside?
It was actually okay in the south stand okay, I stood up for a little bit, sat down for a little bit. Anyway, great game. So who's going to win tonight?
Who knows?
Like if you look at the Roosters and what they did last week are rolling Penrith, they're probably in the box seat, but then so were mainly supposed to be the box seat last week when the Warriors rolled them. So we don't know.
And that's the joy of NRL. Enjoy it for what it is.
And if you're following the Warriors because you think they're going to be the premiers. Stop now follow them because you love rugby league.
Brilliant. Let's see you later on Darcy.
Formula one over the weekend.
You got to watch that Darcy water Grave Sports talk post seven tonight on news talks that I mean, and there are so many you couldn't watch everything that you recommend. Oh yes you jah.
Several screens, several screens and iPad time to cook any food?
Wants to go to the supermarket?
Do you be earlier?
All right?
Dark?
The reason I do this right?
See you later on twenty three After four news Talks, there be Chris Pink here after five on building consents and what is the hold up? Why so many delays?
Moving the big stories of the day forward. It's Ryan Bridge on hither duper see Ellen drove with one New Zealand. Let's get connected News talks.
V Ol Brown, owner of Depot E three, well known New Zealand chef. He is not going to be serving any bluff oysters at his restaurant. He is with us after five to tell us why Chris Pink is the Minister for Building in Construction. He's with us after five wider building Han sence takes so long, and whose fault is it that a lot of them end up with problems? And can he actually do anything to fix it. We'll look at that. After five o'clock two just gone twenty six, after four some of your texts on cricket, I just said, basically just a throwaway comment that I didn't particularly like cricket, That's all it was. And this one from Eddie. Eddie says, cricket is the king of all sports. I love test cricket. I've watched many five day tests on my time off. I umpire cricket on Saturdays, standing up at the wickets to six hours a day. Pure bliss, says Eddie the umpire. Good on you, Eddie, good for you. Another here says Ryan, your summary of cricket is an absolute disgrace. Of all the sports on this weekend, cricket is the one that I would most like to watch. And he also makes the comment as this text that there is a time limit on cricket apparently, which I wasn't aware of. I mean, you wouldn't think so. It goes on for sometimes days and days and days, doesn't it. Twenty seven after four news talks, they'd.
Be recapping the day's big news and making tomorrow's headlines. It's Ryan Bridge on hither du for see Ellen drive with one New Zealand let's get connected news talks.
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Good afternoon, welcome to your Friday, twenty five away from five to warehouses back in profit, which is great for them, but the union says they're cutting costs and it's affecting the workers. So we'll talk asked the questions. I suppose that the chief executive after five o'clock this evening. Also over in America, Greenpeace is on the hook for a billion dollars in damages. So basically they went after an oil pipeline to do their protest. You know how they like to do their protest and then normally nothing happens, nothing comes of it. Well, this time the company, which is a Texas company, a energy transfer Texas pipeline company operator, they took the court and they have been awarded a billion New Zealand dollars in damages. Quite where Greenpeace is going to give that money for I don't know from, I don't know, but I was just reflecting on it because last week. Remember the guys who hang themselves across the motorways in New Zealand from the gantries with their signs. They were in court and they were presenting evidence. I mean, just think of how busy our court system is, and think of how stupid what they do is. And then that there is a jury of our peers sitting there listening to arguments from a climate scientist to justify why they should be able to go onto the motorway and endanger people's lives. I mean, it's madness. Anyway, it was a hung jury, so there was no outcome. There's going to be a retrial for these guys in New Zealand. Meanwhile, Greenpeace is paying a billion dollars over in the States. Twenty four away from five.
It's the world wires on news Talks. They'd be drive.
We'll keep you updated with what's happening at Heathrow as well. Twenty four away from five now, Dan Michson is our US correspondent, and good evening there, Hey, good to have you. The United States fell to its lowest happiness ranking, partly due to a rise in the number of Americans eating their meals alone. This is quite a sad story.
Well it is, but you know what, I kind of enjoy doing that myself, so I don't know why that would make so many people happy. I guess it just depends whether or not you're an introvert or an extrovert.
But you're right.
Apparently the highest we've ever come in since this was started back in twenty twelve was number eleven.
Finland is number one.
You guys came in twelfth, and I know there's always a competition with that other country across the ditch, and I hate to say it, but Australia beat you by one place. This year they came in number eleven, and Afghanistan, which I guess is no surprise, ranked as the unhappiest country in the world. But you know what, I think, right, is kind of interesting. How they did this was basically they asked one hundred thousand people in one hundred and forty countries to think of a ladder, you know, like we go up and down, with the best possible life for them being a ten and the worst being a zero. And then the respondents were asked to rate their own current lives on a scale. But I mean, it doesn't seem very scientific. I mean, we could all be having a great day when somebody asks us, you know, to rate our life, or it could be a really sucky day.
And that is a good point. Donald Trump's issued speaking of psachy day is not a great one if you're in the Department of Education. He's issued an executive order to terminate it. Well he has.
We're going to see how far this gets because getting rid of the Department of Education entirely would require an Act of Congress and that would take some time. So as you can imagine the union that's representing all these employees and the educators saying they're outraged.
He has said that.
The department is basically wasteful. There's a lot of liberals there. This was created back and I think it was nineteen seventy nine. So is there a waste in this department? Well, yeah, you can guarantee there is. I mean, what does it do a lot though, I mean it provides financial aid programs, a lot of funding to support elementary and secondary schools over here, and it does a lot of civil rights work. So there's going to be a continued debate I think from both the left and the right on this. Will it happen. Hard to imagine the department going away completely. But will it be downsized? Could it be downsized? I think there's a better possibility of that.
Yes, interesting Dan, What about these astronauts. We've heard all about them coming back to out of space back to Earth, which is great news. But how much did they did they earn while they were stuck up there? Do we know?
Not as much as people thought. They spend two hundred and eighty six days up there. That's longer than the six or seven days they were originally supposed to spend. So people are saying, well, did they get any extra pay for this? NASA said, I guess they were bombarded by questions. They don't receive overtime, holiday or weekend pay, so they get paid for a forty hour work day. On average, they make about one hundred and fifty two thousand a year. Now, this is what I found interesting. Incidental expenses to travel. Now, this is to any location. This could be from Florida to California. This could be from Florida to the International Space Station. How much do you think they get a day for that?
Well, just for baying and spice, or just in gender.
Just an incidental expenses for anything they want to want to spend on. Every day they get five dollars a day, so that would give them about fourteen hundred No, it's not, is it? Fourteen hundred dollars for that entire time they were out there. So the bottom line is they didn't come home rich. Hopefully they'll get some kind of bonus or at least a pat on the back for having to spend an extra eight months in three weeks longer than they were supposed to up.
There, I suppose, so, yeah, Dan, thank you very much for that damnage. And now US correspondent has gone twenty away from five.
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Just gone twenty away from five on news talks. There'd be Barry Soaper we'll be here next. Councils are trying to get these building consents hurried up. Barry's been looking into that, so we'll talk to him also, Chris penc after five o'clock. Interesting story out of Nelson today. So I don't know if you've seen it yet, but there's a thing called horsey hair that boys have been wearing to schools. We used to have a rats tail when I was at school. It's sort of like a rats tail. It's shaved on the sides, and then there is essentially a ponytail dangling down the back of a boy's head, but it's not tied up, and it can be dyed. Sometimes it's dyed blonde, sometimes it's dyed dark, depending on what the hair color is. Now and Nelson College parent has been upset and complained as parents do these days, to the college because they were told their son was told, you get ak here, mate, it looks stupid. And Nelson College has said, we're looking at tidying up uniforms, facial hair and hairstyles. We're bringing back making boys look sharp, so from the Nelson College principle. So I just wonder what people do with that, because there's feel about how people feel about that, because there's a scale. I mean, there's your King's College sort of preppy. You know, socks are olled up and everything's nothing's out of place. And then there's your like Western Springs College where it's three range farmed children. You know where we're at with that, because from where I'm sitting, school should be about education. So in that sense, does it matter what your hair looks like? Is that really important? But then you don't want everyone looking messy. I think the rule should be if you get at least a MERIT for this year in your school year educationally, if you get at least to MERIT level, you can wear whatever you like the following year, because there's an incentive. N nine two is the number to text eighteen away from five on Newstalks thereb barrispers next.
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Your news talksb has just gone quarter to five. The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Elon Musk is to receive a top secret briefing on US war plans for China. This is not a joke. This is a Wall Street Journal report, quoting two unnamed US officials. I'll get to that a little later on. But Barry Soaper is here now, high Barry, that's President Musk exactly South.
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It, Well, what's wrong with South Akri? No?
No, nothing, No, But he's he's an immigrant. No, yes, but he's an immigrant when you look at Donald Trump.
Yes, and his view on immigrants.
Well, that's quite right, making all decisions for them.
And he's got one at home as well, doesn't he.
But I don't know whether she's at home all the time.
But anyway, Hey, counsels that get a hurry up over delays in building consents Barry.
And this is not the full time I mean. It was Chris Penk the construction Minister. He said to councils building authority consents, they have to start keeping a quarterly record of them so that there is some transparency and they know what's happening in the system. Well, clearly they've got that back. He said. Time is money for tradees and there's no doubt about that. He said that officials estimate a twelve working day delay because of a request for further information can cost around four thousand dollars a dwelling. Now, last year, ninety four and a half thousand applications triggered a more information extended the life of a consent. Now, I've personally had many issues with counsels over the years, to the point that you know, they said, we need an architects drawing for that, So you get an architect and then they want something else, and then they tell you you're getting a consent now, and then the person that's giving the consent somebody dies in the family, so you're told, I'm sorry, the person's on leave. Now you left waiting further happen.
How dare somebody die on your wife?
Well, wouldn't you think they would hand it on to somebody else's consent was ready to be signed off? Now you know, it's a disgrace. So what Chris Pink says that in the next few months he'll finalize decisions on speeding up these consents. And I think a lot of builders would be happy with that. Not only builders though, even though they're sitting on their hands waiting. You've got people that are waiting to get the job done and it's costing them daily. As some council boffin sits on his hands in his office and has a cigarette and a cover of coffee, and you know, it forgets about giving the consent. But it seems like it.
Seems like that. I'm interested to know from the Minister exactly who is to blame here, Whether there are applications that are going and that are not being filled in properly, you know, or whether it's at the council side.
So one of the things he's going to do, and I think it's a good approach. He's looking at mainly getting builders themselves, builders with reputation to do their own consents. Now that's a worry with leaky buildings, that comes to mind. But if you've got a reputable firm doing the job, you say, well, why do they have to go to a boffin and a council to get signed off?
Yeah, I couldn't agree with that part more. Someone just drove past the waikat a district council. It's a Friday. They were all looking from home today. That should be made to go in there and get my consents done. Another bad survey this is the IPSOS survey thumbs down for the government.
Yeah, this is the worst rating the government's had since they've started keeping these surveys in twenty seventeen, ironically, which was of course when Jasin dar Dern took over the reins of government here in New Zealand. Forty one percent of respondents to the IPSOS survey rated the government's performance between zero and three out of ten. Now, when you look at the years of the durn Hipkin's government. Of course they spent like drunken sailors. So essentially we didn't feel the impacts that we could otherwise have felt. So you know, I mean this government has a mess, has had a mess to clean up, so you know, we can't take too much or put a place too much faith in that. But they looked at the issues and the top five issues no surprise, healthcare, hospitals, the economy, housing in crime and law and order. Well, you know, I think that's a foregone conclusion. The point that David Seymour made the other day when he was the acting Prime Minister is that he said people essentially vote on the economy as much as they do voting for a government. And I think that's right. And he said once things start getting better, and of course we've talked about this week the GDP, once they start getting better, I think people get better.
There's a lag though, between the numbers and feeling. Now I want to get to the story. We haven't got much time, but Wellington Councils spending on Portalaod's is causing a stink with the Taxpayers Union.
It is, and initially I thought, well, for goodness sake, you had tens of thousands of people. I was there myself in Wellington during the TREATYHKUOI that they had on Parliament Ow is this Yeah, they spent twenty one or almost twenty two thousand on porter loos around the city. Now the point that the taxpayer made, And initially I thought, well, it's ridiculous and the taxpayer shouldn't be taxpo's union shouldn't be complaining about this, because you can imagine what the streets of Wellington might look like without the porter loose. But what they say is that generally the organizers of these events they supply their own portal loos, and they've probably got a point on that when you consider that the rates in Wellington this year have gone up eighteen and a half percent. So if you're a rate player there paying for porter lows for people turning up protesting the treaty changes that were never going to take place, you'd really have to ask a question, wouldn't you.
You would be yeah, I mean literally flushing money down the toilet, aren't they? And I actually thought when you started talking about the story, I thought, maybe people are so scared the pipes are so broken, you're too scared to do you buses in your own they're having used portaloods, but exactly goodness make Barry thank you for that. We'll see you later on Barry Soper seeing their political correspondent here on news Talks. There have been nine away from five, lots of your texts coming in on both the schooled uniforms and the consents. We'll speak to the minister about it after five to get your feedback.
Next, putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking.
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Are we on our way?
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On GDP give you hope that the tale of the.
Jobs which legs of course might end a little bit or peak a little bit sooner than we thought or it is what it is.
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The forecasts are.
That will peak halfway through the year and then it's going to keep better in the second half.
Of the year.
That's consistent with what I'm seeing in the economy.
Back Monday from six am, the Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Rain drove of the last news talk ZB Five away from five. It's all happening at Heathrow Airport in London today. In fact, nothing's happening because all flights have been canceled. The airport is closed for the day because of a fired and electrical substation in West London. It's left some sixteen hundred homes without power in the surrounding area. It's more force more than one hundred people to evacuate. But most importantly for most of Europe, there are fourteen hundred flights in and out of Heathrow every day, one every forty five seconds. Two hundred and thirty thousand people who travel through there to Membre supposed to be traveling through there today will have their travel disrupted. You they've closed the biggest airport in the UK for the day because of an electrical fire. I mean, you've got to do it a safety safety, I suppose, but man, that's a huge disruption. Four away from five in brich lots of texts on school uniforms and standard. It's Ryan. I'm a teacher, says Sam. At a public school on the North Shore that requires students to wear a uniform, they have recently relaxed the uniform standard so that girls don't have to tie their hair up anymore and they can have more than one piercing. Boys facial hair must now be quote tidy rather than clean shaven. Since the implementation, there has been a noticeable change in students pushing the boundaries across the school. Not just uniform, not to be old school. But you give an inch and they will take a mile. Here you go, what's next They'll be showing you all their tattoos or something. You know, I do take your point. A lot of builders texting in about the building consents. You know, are we unfairly blaming counsels because they're the easy punching bag. Well we'll ask the minister Chris pink live.
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It'd be good evening at a seven after five. Great to have your company on a Friday night. The Construction Minister says the consenting process is taking way too long. Consenting applications are meant to be processed within twenty working days, and anyone who's built a house or had any kind of construction work done knows that that is a pipe dream. Numbers out today show it's taking longer than that sixty six percent of the time. In other words, two thirds of applications are taking too long. Chris Pink's the minister. He's with me now, High Minister.
Fascinating.
So two thirds of applications taking longer than they should and they're doing this by using a request for information. What exactly is that?
Yeah, that's when the council says to the builder or the trades person, look, we think there's something wrong.
What does this mean?
You've forgotten that or you need to add that in or whatever the case may be. And you know, in some cases it will evitably be the case that there might be a problem. But two thirds of the time, you know, ninety thousand of leagues across a year, that surely can't be right. So certainly, and it goes to lead in terms of builders and tradees and designers. They say, look, it's councils being really risk averse, and there's good reasons for that, but you know, we need to sort this out. It's just costing way too much.
Because what happens is once they do that request for information, the clock stops again, right, so it starts again, so they can take longer.
Try And there's certainly a lot of cynicism out there when people say that they've got a content application and it's the nineteenth or the twentieth day, and lo and behold they get the RFA, this quest of further information, and they feel as though councils playing for time.
You know.
The councils, on the other hand, would say that they're busy and they're just trying to get to what they can get to. But we should all be very fearful, you know, if this is what we've got going on, when the system is pretty light in terms of workloads, in terms of activity, and we want there to be more building activity. We know they've been a low having goodness knows, the timings are really going to blow out when when ad activity and pressing to see.
So how do you fix it without potentially compromising and safety or another leaky building.
Yeah, a lot of very good question and it's a balance we're going to try and get right. And part of the antswer is that key to be a bit more hands off.
Where there are experienced builders.
We've got a good track record, they've got insurance, they're solvent, they're not going to cause industry for the vulnerable homeowner or other building owner in walk Away and leaves him in the lurch. And that means council aren't involved. Because we allow these guys to do the work without actually needing that content in the first place, the council can actually spend more of their resources in their time and actually respond more quickly, whether building types or less experienced builders and trades people who actually need that greater scrutiny. So we think it's going to be more of about life.
When are we going to see this enacted?
Yeah, I think I.
Mean certainly the first half of this year, so the final decisions.
So there'll be builders and there'll be people who are having work done on their homes. Minister, he'll be very happy to hear that, very happy indeed, I know, but Barry Sober will be one of them, having just had him in the studio winging about the problem he's had lately. Chris Pink is the building construction minister. Thanks for being on the show. Just gone ten after five, Ryan Bridge, are we seeing a bit of a turnaround for the warehouse? They've reported eleven point eight million and a half year net profit. This is after tax, but sales did decline. They're still expecting to make a loss over the entire year. John Janay is the interim CEO. He's with me now, good evening, all right, So what do you make of this? Because you've got warehouse revenue down two percent, stationary down seven, no lemming up one. What's it telling you?
Definitely it's a work in progress, Ryan, would be the summary, but we're very encouraged with the momentum we're seeing across the business now.
And from what base did you come give us an idea of how bad things were?
Well, we were basically, as you might recall, we were in a strategy that wasn't working with our customers last year. We've done some work to change that re point, refocus our business on our retail brands, which absolutely critical in particular the warehouse and actually get us back on what our customers want. Focused on that, and that's what our teams have been doing, and that's starting to show fruit, and that's turning up and product that has better ings, much lower pricing, and much more exciting and engaging. Our customers are loving the new products that were coming into store and they're responding really well.
First Union says that your strategy is basically understaffing and not replacing people when they're sick.
Yeah, bit confusers to lot lines. He was drawing, there are the same as we're making predominantly coming from reduction and it costs and our project costs, and basically our green shirts are coming from our product successes and the engagement with their customers. So a little bit confused with where he's coming from. There ten over ten thousand team members up and down the country. They're a critical part of our operation and a success.
So there's been no I mean, this is Rud Hughes, the First Workers Union representative. He says they've received seventy five understaffing complaints and six staff not being replaced. He said, this is your strategy is cutting costs to make profit. Yeah, you're saying he's wrong.
Sure, sick staff out of ten thousand as a particular and strong fact point to be leaning in terms oft Again, we send different things, and you know, we know what we're focused on and what our teams are supporting with us, and we're very appreciative of what they're doing. They are working hard. I think everybody today is working hard, and we appreciate them for that, and they're passionate about serving our customers and that's what we love them for.
All Right, Good on John, thanks for coming on the show. Really appreciate it. That's John June. He's the interim chief executive at the Warehouse. It's the ten minutes after five, Ryan Bridge, So elon Musk. We will have another update on Heathrow for you as well. But basically the long and the short of it is, no one's going anywhere at Heathrow Airport today. There's been a fire nearby at a sub electrical substation. There's been homes evacuated. There are about seventy firefighters on the scene and no planes are flying through Heathrow today. That's two hundred and thirty thousand average passengers affected. Elon Musk over in the United States. The Wall Street Journalist reporting just in the last hour that Elon Musk is going to get a top secret briefing from the Pentagon on America's plans for war with China. This is according to two US officials unnamed at this stage, so you know, don't take it for gospel. He says that the report says operational blueprints will be shown, maritime tactics and targeting plans. Many are obviously upset or confused because mask, yes, he is part of the government to an extent, but he also owns Tesla and SpaceX and is there a conflict of interest? And what on earth do we want him knowing our plans for attacking China or anyway, News Talks airb it has just gone on fourteen minutes after five, coming up next to Al Brown while he's not serving bluff oysters this year, News Talks airb it is seventeen minutes after five. Apparently Elon Musk has already issued a statement about this Wall Street journal story, so we'll get that to you in a second as well. Right now, though, a very important topic in Auckland, a high profile Auckland restaurant has made a shock announcement by taking bluff oysters off the menu Depot Eatery, which is well, very high profile you'll know it owned by celebrity chef Al Brown. He's citing the poor state and decline of the seafood as the reason. And he's with me now, hi ol, good evening.
This is bigger than the musk story.
Well, I don't know about that, but we'll give it a go. We'll give it a go. Well, first of all, is this a big to just put it in context? Is this a big decision? Is this a big deal? Or is it a sort of a fine to have no bluff oysters on your menu?
Oh?
Look, we have lots of oysters and so, and the bluff oyster is of course it's the caulinary treasure of the country and I adore them. But we support our suppliers and know Taho they have been our oyster supplier for years and we get our voices live said to us in the shells and so over the last few years, when I'm shocking them, I've noticed as well that you know the quality of them has dropped quite you know, in quite a big way. And but when we get the oysters, we've paid for them, so but we have to open them to order because they're live. That's we only serve live seafood or live shell fish. And so you know, typically with a dozen, you might get you know, four goodies and you know, maybe four pretty average and then four runts. And if you're paying eight dollars an oyster or seven fifty bucks an oyster and I serve those to you, you're not going to be very happy with that. But if I throw them in the bin, I'm not going to be making any money either. So if you know, I tell who you know, and they're they're the katiachy or guardianship is a big part of their the way that the lens that they look at the more honor and they surpassed with oysters. So you know, I back them up. And because I've seen its firsthand as well, so I don't know whether it's yeah.
So this is so for every four eacing, we're basically asy getting the bin getting berthed.
Well, certainly it's very hard for me to serve voices that and I don't know until I open them, until I shuck them what's inside. Of course, whereas lots of restaurants will buy podles of voices which have been graded and that they've been shucked in bluff and they're in a plastic poddle and they've been shipped up here and they'll be buying a grade oysters, so they'll.
All be good.
So and that's a good thing too, So why don't you do that secondary oysters? And even Notatahu said, you know, you know the last two seasons they've stopped halfway through the season or later in the season to say shit, they're just not in good shape.
And look, I don't know.
Look, you know, I don't think it's probably overfishing. That there's lots of things that come into the banemea that you know, the parasite that they say is still there. Yeah, you know, it's the climate, is the nutrition in the water for the for them to to to actually get big. But you know, we just support support our supply.
Do you think it will hit your business, because as you said, lots of other people are the businesses will keep supplying.
Oh no, I don't think so. You know, we've we're an oyster bar and we support the aquaculture New Zealand as well. And there's a lot of hard working farmers out there, you know, growing amazing oysters all over the country, and that's what we highlight and and and yep, some people will be disappointed. Yeah, I love a bluff oyster as much as the next person. But I think it's an opportunity when you when you have a restaurant to you know, you're a window on what's happening out there. And and just bringing it to the forefront that you know that the oysters aren't in great shape is something that's important. And and you know, I see I heard the other day. It seems hard to believe, but evidently the bluff oiced industry is the only wild oyster industry in the world. Everything else is FARBD. So it's a very very special thing that we have.
Well, thanks so much for your time. Look forward to coming back for a meal sometime. Al Brown, celebrity chef owner of Depot Eatery in Auckland, are no longer serving bluff oysters. Twenty one minutes after five News Talks.
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News Talks NB twenty four minutes after five news talks heb on your Friday nights. If you ever needed confirmation that the private sector is better than the public sector, that private enterprise is better than the government getting stuff done, I've got one for you this afternoon. How long has it taken us? And I know they're not exactly the same situation, Okay, so let's you know, spare me the hassle afterwards. But how long has it taken us to get a fury, a new fury to go across the Cook Strait. We've had two governments now three or four in fact, possibly even five ministers death that this has been across millions sunk in unrecoverable costs. And then today Blue Bridge comes out of the blue Bam. We've bought a ship, so wow, amazing. They announced it today. It'll be sailing in July. Ten percent bigger, more capacity for their vehicles. Passenger capacity is going to go up significantly. Its name is Steina Levia. She's used to flitting between Germany and Latvia apparently, and she'll be coming our way and taking us across the Cook Strait. They will change the name. They will dry dock her in Europe. First and then bring her here and across the Cook Strait she goes, Bob's your uncle. What's the problem. Why is it so hard for the government. I know they want bigger ones, but in the end we're not getting bigger ones, are we We're getting slightly bigger ones. So did we need to order the really big ones in the first place? Why can they do it so easily and it's so difficult for the beehive. Twenty five minutes after five overseas merchandise stats out for you today. What that means is how much we export and how much we import. This is for February. Remember we've already had some good, solid tourism numbers. For February. We were at ninety three percent of pre COVID, which is good when you consider the averages about eighty seven for the year. So we've had good tourism numbers, and now we are having this is export goods. In other words, merchandise for February up sixteen percent to six point seven billion. Now imports were also up two point one percent to six point two billion. That leaves a circus a surplus, I should say five hundred million. The items that we are selling more of milk. Powder is up, butter is up, cheese is up. Basically all the stuff you love eating is up. We're selling more of it. Meat and offul up twenty eight percent. And fruit. We sold sixty million dollar is worth of fruit in February and that was up as well. Your news Talk said, be still a lot more to come. The Chinese ambassador apparently not happy with Luxon. We'll talk about that whether it's a bit of a beat up and the onbardsman on his way out of the job. He's with us after six.
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So that's about eleven just over eleven thousand dollars for you to go there. Now, fourteen New Zealanders have taken up this offer, have said yes, and they have a further sixty seven applications being processed. But if you think about it, what actually what do we have to offer them here? You look at the building construction numbers and the and the GDP darty yesterday. I mean, look at the consent numbers going out. We know that the industry here is struggling. So you know, did the eleven thousand dollars get them across the line or was that just a happy coincidence and they would have gone anyway. I guess we'll never know, but that's probably by the all said and done, close to one hundred kiwi's heading to Western Australia trades that we will lose here, it's twenty four minutes away from.
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The All Whites are just two games away from securing a spot at the FIFA World Cup. This is twenty twenty six. They take on Fiji tonight in the Capitol as part of the second semi final. All things going well, they'll head back to Auckland on Monday for the final and a place at the world's biggest sporting event. Ricky Herbert is the former All Whites coaches with me now, Hi, Ricky, Hi, Ryan, Thanks good, thank you. The All Whites were they're shoeing here, aren't they.
Oh look, you'd like to think so, but you know, let's pay respect. This is going to be a wonderful opportunity for Fiji to showcase themselves as well, given the direct entry. So I'm sure there'll be massive motivation coming from the opposition camp as well. But one would like to think we should be good enough to win tonight.
Yeah, there'll be some fingers crossed, but I'm sure not too hard. Is the qualifying a lot of talk this week about the qualifying process for the World Cup. Is it too easy? Now that they've removed that into a continental playoff?
Well, look, I think it changes the landscape, doesn't it quite quite simply who you have to play. I mean, ironically we've got two home games, semi final, the final on our own back door stair hopefully, so that bodes well for us. We're not traveling to different parts of the world to play in a way fixture et cetera, et cetera. So yeah, the end of the day, there Ryan, We've still got to step up tonight. We've got to get the job done. That's the main concentration. This is the one that can take us through to our final, to give us that shot to be back in twenty twenty six and appear and you know our field will cut which would be outstanding. So look, why can't our confederation have the right to be there? You know, And I think you know, talking about it the other day, it's it's getting through this and like I say, fingers crossed, we get through it. But then it's making a statement at the World Cup as well. And you know, can we add on from twenty ten and win some fixtures, will get out of the group and really make a statement again worldwide. So's the that's the big outcome for me is let's go and deliver at a World Cup in twenty twenty six and you know, make people stand up and go, yes, we certainly deserve to be there.
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Hey, Jim Caallo, Ryan Hello Ebs. Nice to have you back. Mate, No, thank you, Jim.
Hello, hello, Now, Ricky has been quite diplomatic there. But the tobs Fiji, I think forty one dollars to win, so it should be easy enough abby for us at the Caketon A.
Yes, he was being very diplomatic. I mean I think there are fifty nine ranking positions between the two teams, so New Zealand undoubtedly should win, although as we know in football, every now and then there's an outrage upset. But if you sort of look at the probability, New Zealand should stroll into the final on Monday and really should stroll into the World Cup, which is it's great, it's great for Oceania. Will we see the same scenes we saw if we Quali High that we saw in two thousand and nine for that great game and bah Rang? Maybe not, because maybe it has taken a little bit of the luster off the accomplishment. But the result is the same and you still get to go to a World Cup.
Jim, what's your take on that?
Well, I know that you were sort of hypothesizing is it too easy? I was sort of thinking about it. Who cares? You know, like if it gets to New Zealand to the World Cup, then then fantastic. Oceania it's a big area. Yes, it's not as strong as some of the other football in areas, but you know, you can only go the route that you can go, and if it's an easy route, then fantastic. And if we get the all Whites playing on a World Cup stage for only the third time, then that's fantastic as well. So I sort of look at and go, well, you know, if it's yeah, as I say, if it's easy, great, you know the result is that your Whites will go to the World Cup. Yeah, surely that's what we all want, is as sports fans.
Yeah, don't self flagelate and try and take a hard rod when there's an easy one.
That's exactly right, you know. And there's two parts we can go here, a really hard one or an easy one.
And also there are disadvantages to playing from down in New Zealand. You know, we're disadvantage with where we are, how far away we are from teams. It's kind of nice if there is an advantage to our isolation and things. It's almost about time.
Exactly a loney of isolation has worked against these youllow sports cents for a very long time, so this time, if it works in our favor, fantastic.
Because you've really turned my negative attitude about this right around. Well done, Amie Wilson and Jim Kay's on the Sports title. We'll be back with the rest of the week's sports next.
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Abby Wilson and Jim Kay's on the Sports Huddle tonight. Welcome back guys. Now. Last Friday, I was told unequivocally on this huddle that the Warriors would lose. And I know it wasn't you two that said this, but that the Warriors would lose. And then I last minute bought a ticket, went to the game, fantastic fun and they won. So what happens Jim this weekend.
That's a great thing about sport, Ryan, isn't it. Who would know? Especially with the Warriors. I'm going to say that the Warriors win again being at home, homeground, advantage, unchanged team again, but I'm a momentum behind them, so I'm going to pick a Warrior's win. But truly, I don't think anyone really knows because they're a little bit of an up and down team at the moment, and I think they have been for about a year or so, so you know, you could be are you going again tonight?
No, I'm not going tonight. I've got other things on. But I would actually go back for Abe. I would actually go back for the fireworks at halftime. They was fairwelling Tohu Harris. Honestly, it was bigger than Matadiki, bigger than Guy Fawkes combined. I've never seen anything like it. I thought, how big is their marketing budget?
I'm not sure they'd like to know that the only reason you want to go back is the fireworks rather than the on the field fireworks. But I live on the shore and I did look at my window as I was watching it to see if I could see them from that far away, because they looked impressive.
They certainly were. So who do you think that? I mean is are they on form and they out of form? What do you think about that condition games? Who would know?
After two games?
I think Jim's right, like, this is the hard thing with the Warriors. I would not beat my house on it. Let's just say that they when they're great, they're great when they're awful. Like in Vegas, they're awful, and so we're early in the season. I usually temporary expectations around the Warriors, so I'd love to see them when But I think they haven't beaten the Roosters in their past eight meetings, and they haven't beating them at homes Is twenty seventeen or some awful stats. So those stats would say that you know it's going to be tricky. And the Rooster's beat Penrith last week with an impressive win, so they'll be riding high off that too.
Yeah. Interesting, abby, thank you. Now let's go to the Western Springs. What do we think should happen with it next? Jim Ah, that's look, where do we begin here?
Ryan? I mean, of the three that seemed to me and put forward in the Herald, I do quite like the Mowbray Ali Williams one, which is a sporting venue. But mate, I went to Western Springs to watch the Police in nineteen eighty four and it's a fantastic music venue, so I also like the one that suggests it should be a music venue. What I do know is that we have some dogs breakfast stadiums in Auckland and somehow someone needs to sort it out. So there is a stadium of about twenty four to twenty five thousand for sport, there's a great venue for concerts that can take a Taylor Swift type crowd because apparently we missed out on Tata because the stadium is too small. And then a stadium that also accommodates big test matches and fifty fifty sixty thousand people. Greater minds and mind can work that out. But somewhere on this we've got three average stadiums in eden Park, Mount Smart and North Harbor, and then we've got Western Springs. Surely, surely, Ryan, someone can say this is what we're going to do, this is the plan, and this is how we're going to have two amazing venues in Auckland, because we don't at the moment.
Yeah, yeah, I think you've had the nail on the head. That has to be a decision that it's strategic decision that's not just a one off about Western Springs and what do we do? You know, it has to be it has to be more what is the strategy and how does this fit into it?
Abbe how did it work for the city.
Yeah, yeah, well, I.
Did a story years ago though, when they were looking at building the stadium in christ Church, and these academics had looked at it and been like, the big stadiums sound great as an idea and it woos everyone and you get Taylor Swift, but in practicality, for three hundred and fifty days of the year, they're a massive, empty white elephant. And I actually think what I liked about the sort of Mowbray's proposal was that it's a small stadium with other things there. And I actually think a twelve and a half thousand seat one it's full more often than it's not. It doesn't take up as much room, and you get more versatile use from the space day in and day out, you know, week and week out.
And so I actually I see.
Jim's point about we need a big stadium, we need to solve those problems. I don't think Western Springs is a solution. I think Western Springs and the facility is maybe look at it from a community point of view and the sport and what it can provide. And the bigger issue of a big stadium is we probably have to look at what we already have and making them better.
Yeah, it's interesting that and then just fly to Sydney Potato. We keep doing that.
That's the other option is that we're priving ourselves of these big acts that could come to New Zealand because we don't have a proper venue for them. And that to me, you know, we think small all the time. You know, why not think big in terms of one of the venues and then exactly what Abe said, a twelve fifteen thousand seat place for the other ones and have have the best of both worlds.
Yeah, against the problem big vision. Do we have enough people because you know, when Taylor Swift comes to town, just to keep using her, but she's massive right when she comes down, she wants to do four or five gigs in the same venue. Do we have that number of people who you know, to actually do you.
Really think she wouldn't sell out at a sixty thousand seat stadium four nights in a row. I mean there's a lot of teenage girls around, mate, they would all be there for every single night of that she's putting it on. They've turned up four nights in a row, but the rest.
Of the time, you know, you put a super rugby team there and they get five thousand in a sixty thousand seat stadium.
That's your other vision. It comes in the twelve thousand seat stadiums there, you know, that's where you will.
How many stadiums are we going to have in gym'stown?
We've got.
Money, you two. We've got three average ones at the moment, I'd have two. One is a smaller, be spoky type of one and one is a big one that allows for all of the the big, the big gigs that you want, whether it be a sporting gig or a concert gig, those sorts of things. We need to have two really decent options. And then we also need to say to the sports sorry, but you need to play Orgland football. They're Blues, they're warriors. There there's no other place to go. You've all got to go to the stadium. Well, you know, yeah, and maximize the usage of it. At the moment, we have three average stadiums and we don't really get the best of anything out of all of them.
Hey, you just Jim, do you reckon the Sorry?
I was just say, do you think the all Lax would sell out a sixty thousand seats stadium?
Not? At the moment, that's.
So we're building for Taylor and Taylor alt.
But look, six sixty you got fifty thousand people to Western Springs. Why you know it doesn't always have to just be Taylor Swift, does it.
No, it doesn't. It doesn't. But that wasn't post COVID, wasn't I think Anyway, we digress.
Anyway, it was a good night. I went there for that too.
That was a good night, always a good night at six sixty. Hey, very quickly before we go, I just want to get your quick take on Raiser and this whole story this week about him changing his mind on the all Blacks eligibility thing. And then you have the players Union come out and say, oh no, they were sort of on the same page the whole time. They just didn't really realize it. I mean, what, Jim, what.
Happened the machine said to Taylor to raisor not Taylor to raise a you need to conform. Look, the simple thing is the best thing that happens in New Zealand is that you have to be in New Zealand to play for the All Blacks. If that changes, this country will empty of decent play.
They'll all go to Japan. They'll all go to France and all go somewhere else and earn lots more money, and we will be looking at a super rugby competition that is not super. So New Zealand rugby needs to hold on for as long as possible to the fact that you have to be in New Zealand to play for the All Blacks, because as soon as they change that, honestly, this country will empty. All the good players will earn lots of money going elsewhere and just play for the All Blacks out of Toyota or out of Toulon or out of Leicester. It's as simple as that. Ryan. You change that law and everyone will disappear because there's so much more money. Over says the only thing keeping rugby players in yellow at the elite level is the lure of the All Blacks Jersey. If that changes, goodbye to all of our decent players.
All right, guys, we have to leave it there. I'm afraid. Abby, thank you very much for coming on, and Jim appreciate you. By the Actually, just before we go, Lizzie has said stuff Taylor Swift, she's a billionaire and why should she get concerts in Auckland. Abby, Wilson Jim Kay's Sports Huddle Friday Night.
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Evening at is seven after the sixth grade to have your company this Friday evening. Barry Soper wraps the political weekend just a moment. Peter Lewis is in Hong Kong for US tonight, promising economic signs out of China, and we'll cross to London where the travel chaos continues at the closure of he Throw Airport. Right now. He's the man who makes sure that we get the truth. The Chief Onbodsman, Peter bouchares his name. He's leaving his role this month after ten years in the job. He quit you'll remember last year. But because the Onbodsman can't be older than seventy two by law. It's a really weird archaic law, but it's true. The current government asked him to stay on anyway, and now his term is finally coming to an end. His parting message a call for stiffer penalties on government departments that delay and get around the release of official information. Peter bouches with me this evening, good evening, good evening. Ryan, How does it feel knowing you're too old for this?
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The funny thing is I don't feel too old. So when it comes to whether I'm still enjoying the job and whether I have the answer of yes in both respects.
I want to get some juice out of you while we've got you. Who's the worst minister that OAA wise, who's the worst minister or ministry?
And Ryan, I'm not even going to begin to answer that one. So you know me, one of the reasons that I think we've done well in this job is we've never gone to the person. We've always gone for the issue, and that's what I'll always continue to do.
Come on, you must you must have someone. You must have a little black book of ministers that you'd you know, you'd like to expose.
Now, this is a good thing. I don't have a black book. And everything we do is out there and transparent. So I'm I know why you're asking me, and the answer is everything that we do is transparent, there's no secrecy.
Okay, Then then on a personal level. What are some well, what is the worst you think cover up for want of a better word, that you've come across.
Now, I want to say this to you.
I don't think we have cover ups in this country. I know some other countries do. But in the the whole of the time that I've done this job, since the end of twenty fifteen, there is a level of transparency that I think we can be thankful for. Where we have to watch it is the fact that we've decreased in our transparency ratings. We're once one, we're now down to number four. We need to watch it run because in some recent bills before Parliament that I've submitted on there are carve outs of the OIA that ministers are introducing. Now that's a slippery slope and we've got to keep our eye on the ball.
So most of what because we hear a lot about the OIA, and people you know probably roll their eyes and think, well, who cares. I mean, it is important, but you're saying it's never really in New Zealand an intention intentionally hiding stuff. It's more by accident or not rather than by design.
I want to give you and listeners a reassurance that in all the deep dives we've done, we've never found a liberate wish to not release or to cover up. And I do think it's important that I say that to balance up the next comment, which is that whereas some agencies I've singled out as being very very good performers, and Treasury and Department of Premiers from kept our examples, there are some that I've needed to ask them to lift the game because they are not performing in the spirit of this Act. And the Official Information Act is fundamentally important.
That it gives you.
It gives anyone who wants to the right for accountability from decision makers, and it gives you the right to have input into what's going on. Unless you've got those rights, that's a severe infringement.
What are you going to do next now that you're too old for it?
Now that I'm too old, you keep saying that I know that I am. No, I don't feel old, and I'll continue to be interested in what goes on around me. I'll want to enjoy life of it. But I do think the secret to why I've enjoyed this job so much is because I've always chased the curious I've always wanted to be inquisitive. That's what I'll continue to do.
And you're only seventy what not even seventy two for goodness sake, I mean, really, it's not old, is it. They need to change they need to change that law.
Well, that's a matter. Yeah, that's very much a matter for Parliament. But I think you're right to raise the issue because is there a magic in an age and the answers? I don't think there is. I think some are who are less than seventy two in whatever probably aren't up to it. There are some, including cabinet ministers, who are well over seventy two, are very much onto it. So I think the artificiality is a bit gross actually.
Yeah, a bit arbitrary. Hey, well, thank you very much for coming well over all these years. Really, Peter, it's been great to have you on and I know that you've been quite fastidious in the work that you do. We appreciate it.
Well, Ryan, thank you, and also hither all say, look, it's been a pleasure because you're direct in your articulate. All the very best for you as well.
Peter, Thank you very much. Peter Bowcha, the outgoing chief Onwardsman time is twelve minutes halfter six. Bryan Bridge Airlines are scrambling trying to reroute their flights, have canceled flights. The rerouting flights. These flights are heading for Heathrow Airport in London. The airport, if you're just joining us, has shut for the entire day because of a massive electrical fire nearby. Jeff Thomas, he's an aviation commentator. He says, this is going to cause massive disruption, massive headaches. For anyone whose flight is impacted today.
They're not going to go on the next flight. They're going to be pushed back to the back of a queue. So the passengers who will be leaving, say tomorrow, they'll be okay, and so on and so forth. But the ones that were disrupted today with flights canceled, will have to get onto the first available flight, and that could be a week away, be even two weeks away.
Nightmare. Just be grateful that you're on dry land right now. We're going to speak to Gavin Gray, he's in the UK. We'll speak to him about the delays and what impacts having across Europe and also into America. That's coming up in about thirty minutes time. Barrys Soper next wrapping the political week that was.
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You never know where people are in that, do you clear? Sixteen after six. Now let's go to Barry Soper, senior political correspondent, who is here to wrap the political week that was. Barry, Welcome back, Hello again, Ryan now Lux I think Luxton has been in India so long he'll come back to Indian.
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Have made the most of it, haven't they. I mean, you know with the cricket games, I mean there wasn't just one. I think there was one in Mumbai, one in New Delhi. So yeah, he's done the rounds and the meeting with Modi, the Prime Minister of India, clearly was a very friendly one. The two had met last year at an international meeting and got on there. But clearly there was a rapport between the two men. And that's good with the Indians because Indians like face to face meetings. And really the last Labor the Labor government ignored India essentially, And when you've got a country that is the third biggest economy in the world one point four or five billion people, the most populous nation on Earth, you'd have to say you can't ignore them as a trading nation. And clearly it was all pre rehearse before he went, because not long had his plane touchdown, then the Indians, along with New Zealand, we're announcing the formal talk to a free trade agreement. Interestingly, though, the Indians haven't ignored Derry, because even Modi himself said, yeah, we'll be talking about that. If they did have Derry included, it would be extraordinary to be like no other free trade agreement that India has got anywhere in the world. So whether we can pull that off is another matter. But don't forget we've done it before with China. Yes, we have that we were the first Western country to sign a free trade deal with them. So you know, my hat comes off to Todd McLay who's been to India I think five times over the past year, and like I said, face to face is what the Indians like.
Absolutely, and depends what we can offer them visa wise or whatever it might be. You know, there may be ways that we can do it. It was great to see actually the two of them hug as well Moody and lastly just shows how close they obviously feel to each other, which is important when you're negotiating. Meanwhile, Peter's and Washington a very different times hugging there, no hugging there. And you've got to wonder because he, I mean we had him on the show, didn't say what he was very cautious, doesn't say much, which is diplomacy. But you've got to wonder whether we got a bit of a racking up. You know, Hey, you guys needed to pull your way into Pacific.
Oh, I think absolutely. I mean it's a bit rich when you think about it, coming from the Americans who had forgotten the Pacific for a number of years, that China waved their flag in the Pacific. Suddenly the Americans have come back saying that we really need a much better presence in the Pacific, a much more influence in the Pacific. So what clearly I think was discussed was the level of our defense spend, and that's a big thing on certainly, the Trump led You book looking at countries seeing how much they spend lux and disease even suggested that we may spend up to two percent of GDP, which is doubling our defense spend. But you won't see it overnight. I would think there will be an announcement along those lines when the Defense Review comes back, but it'll be over the period of about fifteen years, yeah plus point.
Some of it will be capital spending tourists. Now, the Green Party this week and the notorious criminal Dean Whickcliffe. This has been getting under your skin berry.
You find it amazing that politicians involved themselves in something like this. Dean Whickcliffe shot a man with a pistol and a jewelry store in the early seventies and now you know he's named the Comar tour by Taimotha Paul from the Greens who went to see him. And he's on a hunger strike, saying he's going to remain on it until he gets out of prison. He's claimed that the corrections officers have beaten them up, and certainly you see the photos he does have skin off his brow. But they would say that he refused to go into a cell and that was because he didn't want to be double bunked and they got into a scuffle. They had to bring him down to get him in. But he is a seventy seven year old man and you'd have to say, well, you know. And then Steve Abel, the other Green MP, he went to see him as well. They're both saying that what the Corrections Minister should do is to interfere and get den Wickliffe out of jail. The problem was when he was out the last time he'd broken his conditions of parole. He's living in his car with his cats and that's hardly satisfactory living because it is against the parole conditions he is released under. So he's got himself to blame to an extent, although I suppose you have to say that compassion in the end would have to be shown and he'll probably be found so where to live. I mean, he's an elderly man.
He's an elderly man now. Just finally and very quickly, GDP, we've got the number we wanted, which is not a recession. In fact, it was surprised on the upside at point seven and people saying, look, I still don't feel like I'm getting any richer here. That feeling will continue for a long time.
The problem, isn't it right, Because an economy doesn't improve unless there's a general feeling of well being, and there's not at the moment. We've still got pretty high unemployment for New Zealand, and people are finding it hard to pay the home their home bills like groceries and rates and mortgage interest rates and what have you. But things are tracking in the right direction. You look at the dairy payout that's upcoming about ten dollars a killo, which will feedback into the community. You've got tourism now almost pre COVID levels, so that's good. So there are good signs there and it's only when I guess those signs flow through to the economy that will all feel better about each other and about the government.
Barry, thank you very much for that, Barry. Soaper News Talks they'd be senior political correspondent. Coming up after six thirty, We're going to go to Peter Lewis's our Asia Business correspondent. Some really interesting numbers out of China retail sales, investment and industrial production numbers. They are quite good, which in turn will be good for us all ahead.
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On newstalksz'b. Richard says, Ryan, we've had consistently high inflation on everything, increases on everything being compounded, and prices already elevated levels. I doubt anyone has had a pay rise to be able to ensure that they keep pace with the inflation. That is the problem that we've had deflation, not disinflation. In other words, the rate of inflation has slowed, but prices haven't dropped back down to where they were in twenty nineteen. You know, so it takes a long time, especially if you haven't had a pay raise. It takes a long time to feel like one. You're sort of standing still again before you can even start walking nineteen nine two is the number to text. I really like this story out of the Spanish Parliament. So what they're doing over there is trying to much like they did with our food waste bins here in New Zealand, trying to reduce their waste from you know, food waste basically. So the Spanish Parliament tries to do this, introduces a whole bunch of measures and that this is the conservationists and the climate change people wanting to cut the food waste. And so the far right and the populist parties get on board and take advantage of this by saying, well, we're going to ban a sorry, reverse the ban on hunting wolves because wolves go after the sheep, the sheep leave the carcass. They say that's food based, therefore let's lift the ban on hunting wolves. Well you can imagine how the conservationists feel about that.
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Five away from seven on news TALKSB We're going to get to Gavin Graham the UK for the latest on the Heathrow Airport situation the closed down, and Peter Lewis is standing by for an update In Asia, Hi Jinping going to head to Washington apparently, but when. Just briefly though, I've written a piece of The Herald on Sunday, which you can read on Sunday morning. If you're interested at inzed Herald dot co dot MZ, you can go online and have a read, but I've done this week. We had an interview with Nikola Willis here on the show on Monday just about how squeezed the government's books are going to be, and obviously she's putting together a very important budget. Government borrowing is coming under the spotlight. Our debt servicing costs for the first time are going to be more than what we spend on primary and secondary schools and on the Ministry of Justice combined. And there's a report out today from the OECD. We're not alone in this. The cost of government debt payments and the richest countries in the world ie the OECD has reached its highest level since two thousand and seven, outstripping the amounts spent on defense, police services and housing. This is for all of the OECD debt service costs is a percentage of national incoming gone from three point from two point four up to three point three. Now the problem is not only did we all borrow, you know, to the HELT during COVID years, but we've now got these richer economies trying to transition, do the green transition that cost money. They're all trying now to do the high defense spending that costs money. And they all have aging populations which are very expensive things to have because of hospitals and superannuations and all sorts of stuff. And so you start to think, well, no wonder the IMF is talking about a capital gains tax. No wonder everyone started talking about taxes, because how the hell else are they going to pay for anything? That is governments anywhere? Twenty three away from seven, Ryan Bridge, Peter Lewis is our Asia business correspondent, Peter Good Evening, Hello, Ryan. Now, Donald Trump did tease that Cheshinping would be visiting the US soon. But how soon could he visit?
He didn't say, And indeed it was a tease. He keeps on touting this really good relationship that he has with Ji Jinping that although they have their differences on trade and some other issues, they're good mates. They like each other get on with each other. China said nothing at all publicly about this meeting, and personally, I think it's very unlikely that it will happen at the moment under the current circumstances, because I don't think Donald Trump's relationship with Jijinping is as good as he likes to make out. But also a visit to the US right now will be a huge risk for President Jijingping and China anyway, doesn't like to do these visits until all the details are sorted out in advance. You know exactly what's going to happen, who's going to say, what deals are going to be signed, what agreements are going to be made. Donald Trump likes to make it up while they're there, so nothing is agreed in advance, and it's all done sort of on the spot. So it's a risk for President g I mean, what happens if Donald Trump does a Zelinsky on him and throws him out of the White House or something, or more likely, you know, slaps tariffs on China while he's there, because they haven't got an agreement that he wants. And you know, the local media here says that when President g went to Washington in Trump's first term, he concluded afterwards that it was a mistake and that he shouldn't really have gone. And in particular, right now, there's a sort of similar situation because the US is doing this China related trade study. Trump has ordered that to be completed by April first, so there's no way that she's going to go to China before that and before they see the results of what this trade study is and what conclusions the US has come to about China trade.
Yeah, all just a bit too volatile and the Oval Office that sounds like good news for exporters. China's beaten expectations on its economic expectations. I've had strong retail sales, Peter, Yes, it has.
I mean the numbers for January and February combined together, so we get the numbers for those two months. That's because the Lunar New Year Festival comes sometime in January or February each year, and it distorts the figures, so they combine the two together. But if you look at them, retail sales are up about four percent in that period, consumer spending and industrial production both growing more than expected, so on the basics of underlying economy, things not looking too bad. However, the upply's annointment unemployment rose to a two year high, and youth unemployment in particular is surging that's about seventeen percent. And also the property market is still declining after three years of declines, there's still no signs of stabilization in that and that's a big problem because by far the Chinese person's biggest asset is property. Several families in many families in China owned more than one property, and they're seeing the values of them decline, particularly in the secondary markets where you don't have the price controls that China puts on properties in the way that it does in new build homes, and that's affecting their confidence and their willingness to go and spend. So it leaves China very reliant on exports in an environment where trade is very much under threat. So there are vulnerabilities in the Chinese economy. And it's again and again it comes down to the same thing. We need consumers to start spending. The government's talked about all sorts of measures to try and boost consumer spending, but so far they haven't really worked. In my view, the best way to get consumers spend is to give them more money. If they have more money in their pockets, they're more likely to go and spend it. And there's a number of ways in which you could do that. You could raise the minimum wage, you could cut taxes, you could hand out consumption vouchers, and those are the ways in which, you know, maybe consumers will go out and spend. But for various reasons, the Chinese government doesn't want to do any of them.
Yeah, interesting that paid Kidabas. Obviously, the Pacific nation got a lot of minerals and metals underneath the ocean floor around it, and part of it's easy, and they're eyeing a deal with China about potentially mining some of it.
Yes, that's right.
I mean, this is a sort of you know, a very potentially a very lucrative business for Kim about it. So, you know, and then there's a whole series of nations there as you know, who are all on the forefront of this push to try and mine the depths of the ocean to get rare earth minerals from there which are believed to be at the ocean bed. They were doing a deal with a company called the Metals Company, which specializes in trying to get these rare minerals off the off the ocean bed, but that fell through. And there's a whole range of countries there, Cook Islands know, all looking at similar things, and they're now talking about doing a deal with China, doing a partnership with China to try and mine these minerals. Apparently discussions have been opened with the Chinese ambassador after that deal with the Metals Company fell through. I think the concern for many nations, like yourselves in New Zealand in Australia is what happens next, because these things start in fairly innoculous ways, and then before you know it, you've got Chinese vessels for you know, docking in ports and China sort of building ports for for the for these countries, and it's sort of grows and grows, and that's what concerns people, I think around the Pacific nations.
Peter, thank you very much for that update. As always, Peter lewis out Asia Business correspondent. Time is sixteen minutes away from seven here on News Talks. Edb at Heathrow Airport, Europe's busiest airport. No planes are flying today. Gavin Gray are update us on that next.
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Your News TALKSB. It's quarter to seven and quarter to six in the UK and London right now. Gavin Gray is with us and no flights going anywhere around Heathrow Airport today.
Gavin no a massive, massive disruption to travelers. At one point a couple of hours back, one hundred and twenty flights were in the air and had to be turned around or sent to alternative airports. That was a short time ago, but of course he threw a massive hub for not just coming in but going out of the UK. Eighty three point nine million passengers passed through its terminals last year and it was handling roughly one thousand, three hundred plane movements, so landings and takeoffs each day. So that's what's being shifted today in fact todly precise one three hundred and fifty one.
So it's a huge concern.
People have been reporting being in the air being sent back to their original destination. Others are going to be landing in cities or other airports that they didn't know they were going to get to. And we are waiting for a statement now from Heathrower, but we're expecting that soon. But certainly the power companies are saying, look, this is going to take some.
Time to sort this out.
The National Grid have saying, quote, we're working at speech or a store power supply as quickly as possible. All this because of a far at a substation nearby. And it's not just the airport but it's about thirteen hundred properties nearby as well, so it's a really massive disruption. And as of about twenty minutes ago was the last sighting, there is still flames. So this is going to take not just today the knock on her fake is going to last several days.
Oh no, it's still flames burning now goodness.
Well, it's certainly a very very thick smoke so that the fire service still there. But even if it were to be back and out and you know there, it's going to take fixing. And even if it's fixed, ether Eppot has already said we are shutting through until midnight to night at least.
Yeah. No, and they've got to put safety first. Obviously they're an import, don't they. So you can't argue with that. Now, Nicholas Sturgeon, what's happening with her? And the police were involved? You know there was a Police Scotland investigation into her finances and the political party's finances. Is she off the hook for this?
Yes she is, and she said there is not a shred of evidence against me. So, Nicholas Sturgeon incredibly popular when she was Leader of Scotland. Of course, she tries to force through Scottish independence and failed narrowly, but she remained very, very popular. And then whole question started to be asked about hundreds of thousands of pounds hundreds of thousands of New Zealand dollars regarding the fees and other donations given to the Scottish National Party, and that is, of course the party that really pushes for independence in Scotland. Now, she and her husband, the former chief executive of the Scottish National Party and indeed the Treasurer were all under suspicion. But when her former husband, the chief Executive, Peter Burrell, appeared at Edinburgh Sheriff god He was charged with embezzlement and made no plea during a private hearing. He was granted bail, but Nicholas Sturgeon herself and indeed the former Treasurer Colin Beatty, would told they were no longer under investigation. As I said, this all stems from donations that are about one point four million New Zealand dollars in donations given by independence activists, and it was led to her home being searched, the home she had shared with her former husband. And also there was the discovery of a motor home, a luxury motorhome parked in the driveway of her husband's mother. So Peter Murrell's mother had this bizarre luxury motor home partner. All sorts of questions about how the money for that was procured, and we wait to see in the long run how his case of embezzlement goes on. But as I said, Nicholas Sturgeon and Colin Beatty given the complete all clear goodness.
May if you're going to go for political ambuzlement, you'd want more than a motor heme. Surely Finland is happy, they happy, But what about the Brits and where did you rank on this happy souve.
Yeah, not very well so the UN the United Nations always looks at a World Happiness report where are the people living in different countries happy?
And if so, how or why? And Finland tops that.
Ranking for the eighth consecutive year. It's actually ahead of three other Nordic companies in this particular report, while in Latin America, Costa Rica and Mexico enter the top ten. For the first time you ask about the UK, I'm afraid we're down to twenty third. We drop down a couple of places. America drop down to twenty fourth, the lowest ever position for the latter. How did New Zealand do well? New Zealand has come in at twelfth, the same position as last year, Australia eleventh, and both Australia and New Zealand are one place down in the last two years, but nevertheless sort of holding their position and significantly above the UK. So the top ten Finland, Denmark, Iceland, Sweden, Netherlands, Costa Rica, Norway, Israel, Luxembourg and Mexico, and at the bottom of the table of the one hundred ninety seventh Gabon ninety eighth, the Ivory Coast, ninety ninth Iran and one hundredth Congo, So Africa very heavily weighted at the bottom end. So why might people be happy, Well, they're saying it could be a change in direction of political polarization. Sharing meals they believe is a strength to happiness. And also there are you know, household size. They're saying four or five people living together has the highest levels of happiness in Europe.
There you go, bit a company, bit of food. Everyone's hippy given. Thank you for that. Gavin Gray, our UK correspondent. It is seven away from seven. You're on news Talk ZIBB.
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