Internal Affairs Minister Brooke van Velden says Fire and Emergency broke the law, and hid it from her for 12 months.

Today she revealed she's lost confidence in chief executive Kerry Gregory and that the matter has been referred to the Serious Fraud Office. 

She says the issue relates to the law that outlines the agency's levy collection - which she says was breached and actively kept from her. 

She went on to explain that the agency even launched its own investigation into the issue. 

"They've also spent half a million dollars trying to figure out what's been going on, and at no point in time thought to stop and check that the minister might ned to be aware that they're investigating themselves." 

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Internal Affairs Minister Brooke van Velden says Fire and Emergency broke the law, and hid it from her for 12 months.
Today she revealed she's lost confidence in chief executive Kerry Gregory and that the matter has been referred to the Serious Fraud Office.&nbsp;
She says the issue relates to the law that outlines the agency's levy collection - which she says was breached and actively kept from her.&nbsp;
She went on to explain that the agency even launched its own investigation into the issue.&nbsp;
"They've also spent half a million dollars trying to figure out what's been going on, and at no point in time thought to stop and check that the minister might ned to be aware that they're investigating themselves."&nbsp;
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With a straight down the middle approach, Heather du Plessis-Allan Drive on Newstalk ZB delivers the very latest news and views to New Zealanders as they wrap up their day.

Heather du Plessis-Allan Drive

Brooke van Velden: Internal Affairs Minister on why she's lost confidence in Fire and Emergency CEO over withholding information

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Supermarket owners all over the country have raised concerns over National's election promise to split up Foodstuffs.

The party wants to create a third player by separating Pak'nSave from New World and Four Square, subject to Commerce Commission agreement.

New World owner-operator Eric Rush says he's been working in this business for 16 years and putting 'long, hard' hours in - and he's raised doubts over this campaign promise.

"That just goes to show that they have no understanding of actually how it works. We'll find a way if we have to, but it's not going to be the same."

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Supermarket owners all over the country have raised concerns over National's election promise to split up Foodstuffs.
The party wants to create a third player by separating Pak'nSave from New World and Four Square, subject to Commerce Commission agreement.
New World owner-operator Eric Rush says he's been working in this business for 16 years and putting 'long, hard' hours in - and he's raised doubts over this campaign promise.
"That just goes to show that they have no understanding of actually how it works. We'll find a way if we have to, but it's not going to be the same."
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Eric Rush: New World owner-operator voices concerns with National's pledge to split up Foodstuffs

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Listen to the Heather du Plessis-Allan Drive Full Show Podcast for Thursday 17 September.

Get the Heather du Plessis-Allan Drive Full Show Podcast every weekday evening on iHeartRadio, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Listen to the Heather du Plessis-Allan Drive Full Show Podcast for Thursday 17 September. 
Get the Heather du Plessis-Allan Drive Full Show Podcast every weekday evening on iHeartRadio, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Full Show Podcast: 17 September 2026 

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Well, what do you do if you're Ed Sheeran today? 

His tour is in turmoil. All four support acts have pulled out in solidarity with Macklemore over the Palestine support stuff. He's been slammed in newspaper columns for not standing up for Macklemore, and now his mural in Dunedin has been defaced.

So, what do you do? You know what you do? You carry on. You play the gigs anyway - because probably Ed Sheeran doesn't need support acts, just like Lady Gaga doesn't need support acts.

He will fill the stadium anyway because there is a good proportion of his audience, if not the majority of his audience, who are mums and their kids out to listen to some pop hits sung by Ed Sheeran himself who actually don't care about politics.

And that actually is his intention. At least at the moment, things are moving pretty fast, but right now he intends to continue his tour.

Now, I'm not particularly a fan of Ed Sheeran's, but I feel sorry for him in this. He has become the whipping boy in a spat between two other people.

On one side, you've got Robert Kraft, the Jewish owner of the Gillette Stadium, that has banned Macklemore from performing on account of the fact that Macklemore's been speaking out against Israel over Gaza, and 12 years ago he wore a mask on stage that very clearly made fun of Hasidic Jews, even if he said he didn't realise it at the time.

On the other side is Ed's support act, Macklemore, who wants to - and should be able to - speak out in support of Gaza. But "should be able to" also comes with the consequences of doing that.

And that is that Macklemore cannot be surprised that people with power who support the state of Israel will not like what he is saying and that, especially in these days of concerns about the safety of Jewish people in crowds in Western countries, he was eventually probably going to run into some opposition.

Now, I'm not going to tell you whose side you should be on because, frankly, you're probably going to choose based on how you feel about the Gaza situation, aren't you? This is not a debate where people change their minds very easily.

And so, I think blaming Ed Sheeran for staying out of the public debate, which is one that people don't change their minds on very easily, is unfair when there are a lot of people who are also choosing to stay out of this public debate.

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Well, what do you do if you're Ed Sheeran today?&nbsp;
His tour is in turmoil. All four support acts have pulled out in solidarity with Macklemore over the Palestine support stuff. He's been slammed in newspaper columns for not standing up for Macklemore, and now his mural in Dunedin has been defaced.
So, what do you do? You know what you do? You carry on. You play the gigs anyway - because probably Ed Sheeran doesn't need support acts, just like Lady Gaga doesn't need support acts.
He will fill the stadium anyway because there is a good proportion of his audience, if not the majority of his audience, who are mums and their kids out to listen to some pop hits sung by Ed Sheeran himself who actually don't care about politics.
And that actually is his intention. At least at the moment, things are moving pretty fast, but right now he intends to continue his tour.
Now, I'm not particularly a fan of Ed Sheeran's, but I feel sorry for him in this. He has become the whipping boy in a spat between two other people.
On one side, you've got Robert Kraft, the Jewish owner of the Gillette Stadium, that has banned Macklemore from performing on account of the fact that Macklemore's been speaking out against Israel over Gaza, and 12 years ago he wore a mask on stage that very clearly made fun of Hasidic Jews, even if he said he didn't realise it at the time.
On the other side is Ed's support act, Macklemore, who wants to - and should be able to - speak out in support of Gaza. But "should be able to" also comes with the consequences of doing that.
And that is that Macklemore cannot be surprised that people with power who support the state of Israel will not like what he is saying and that, especially in these days of concerns about the safety of Jewish people in crowds in Western countries, he was eventually probably going to run into some opposition.
Now, I'm not going to tell you whose side you should be on because, frankly, you're probably going to choose based on how you feel about the Gaza situation, aren't you? This is not a debate where people change their minds very easily.
And so, I think blaming Ed Sheeran for staying out of the public debate, which is one that people don't change their minds on very easily, is unfair when there are a lot of people who are also choosing to stay out of this public debate.
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Perspective with Heather du Plessis-Allan: What could Ed Sheeran have done here?

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Brooke van Velden: Internal Affairs Minister on why she's lost confidence in Fire and Emergency CEO over withholding information

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