A social housing commentator says the numbers of people without a home is probably worse than data suggests.
June Homelessness Insights released today show rough sleeping's worsening countrywide, across all measures.
The 2023 Census indicated a 37 percent increase between 2018 and 2023, reaching almost 5,000 without shelter.
But Bernie Smith says the Census wasn't that accurate - and explained many people on the street weren't contactable or didn't do the Census.
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Gavin Grey: UK correspondent on Labour's poor showing at the local elections
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Geoff Bertram: energy economist on the Greens calling for the Government to bring down power prices
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Shane Solly: Harbour Asset Management expert on the market reactions to the 'no deal' announcement on the Middle East conflict
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