Chris Penk may have just revealed the truth behind the attempted coup of Christopher Luxon.
In his first podcast interview since losing his portfolios, the former Defence Minister hints he wasn't alone in his desire to oust the Prime Minister.
Senior Political Correspondent Barry Soper tells Heather du Plessis-Allan that Penk may have let slip that he took the fall for Erica Stanford.
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