Zara McDonald and Michelle Andrews are something of a two-woman media empire. After leaving their roles at a mass digital publishing company, the journalist friends decided to go it alone and launch a podcast that their ex-employee didn’t want. The fact that said podcast, called Shameless, is one of the most downloaded in Australia - and has gone on to spawn merchandise, live events and now a book - called The Space Between: Chaos. Questions. Magic. Welcome to your twenties - speaks volumes about the ease at which these two have tapped into Australia's millennial psyche. 


But their success hasn’t come without drawbacks. Michelle and Zara have been propelled into the buzzing but also brutal world of online commentary and, as they share, it’s had a huge effect on their mental health, their sense of confidence and also their friendship. 


This is part one, of a two-part chat, so please be sure to tune into to the follow-up tomorrow. 


You can find Zara on Instagram at @zamcdonald, Michelle at @michelleandrews1 and their podcast at @shamelesspodcast 


You can listen to Shameless here


The Space Between: Chaos. Questions. Magic. Welcome to your twenties is available to buy, here


You can join the conversation, or drop us a question, via the Healthy-ish Australia Facebook page, here.


If you’re up for funny memes and health inspo follow Body+Soul on Instagram at @bodyandsoul_au


Or, head to bodyandsoul.com.au for your daily digital dose of health and wellness.


Each Sunday, you can pick up the latest copy of the Body+Soul/Stellar flipbook inside The Sunday Telegraph (NSW), the Sunday Herald Sun (Victoria), The Sunday Mail (Queensland), Sunday Mail (SA) and Sunday Tasmanian (Tasmania).  
 

Zara McDonald and Michelle Andrews are something of a two-woman media empire. After leaving their roles at a mass digital publishing company, the journalist friends decided to go it alone and launch a podcast that their ex-employee didn’t want. The fact that said podcast, called Shameless, is one of the most downloaded in Australia - and has gone on to spawn merchandise, live events and now a book - called The Space Between: Chaos. Questions. Magic. Welcome to your twenties - speaks volumes about the ease at which these two have tapped into Australia's millennial psyche. 


But their success hasn’t come without drawbacks. Michelle and Zara have been propelled into the buzzing but also brutal world of online commentary and, as they share, it’s had a huge effect on their mental health, their sense of confidence and also their friendship. 


This is part one, of a two-part chat, so please be sure to tune into to the follow-up tomorrow. 


You can find Zara on Instagram at @zamcdonald, Michelle at @michelleandrews1 and their podcast at @shamelesspodcast 


You can listen to Shameless here


The Space Between: Chaos. Questions. Magic. Welcome to your twenties is available to buy, here


You can join the conversation, or drop us a question, via the Healthy-ish Australia Facebook page, here.


If you’re up for funny memes and health inspo follow Body+Soul on Instagram at @bodyandsoul_au


Or, head to bodyandsoul.com.au for your daily digital dose of health and wellness.


Each Sunday, you can pick up the latest copy of the Body+Soul/Stellar flipbook inside The Sunday Telegraph (NSW), the Sunday Herald Sun (Victoria), The Sunday Mail (Queensland), Sunday Mail (SA) and Sunday Tasmanian (Tasmania).  
 

Hosted by Body+Soul digital editor Alison Izzo, this podcast will help you make healthier decisions, for your mind, body and soul.

Hosted by Felicity Harley, the Healthy-ish podcast will give you the tools to make healthier decisions, for your mind, body and soul. Featuring guest interviews with the likes of Osher Günsberg, Michelle Bridges and Turia Pitt, as well as expert intel from doctors, dermatologists and dietitians, these bite-sized episodes will arm you with the knowledge and practical advice to get back the balance. We know we can't eat, think, act and move perfectly, 100% of the time, so instead we're aiming to be healthy...ish. Join us, every morning, from Monday to Friday.  For more, head to www.bodyandsoul.com.au

Everyday tips for your mind, body and soul

Healthy-ish

Hosted by Body+Soul digital editor Alison Izzo, the Healthy-ish podcast will give you the tools to make healthier decisions, for your mind, body and soul. Featuring guest interviews with the likes of Osher Günsberg, Michelle Bridges and Turia Pitt, as well as expert intel from doctors, dermatologists and dietitians, these bite-sized episodes will arm you with the knowledge and practical advice to get back the balance. We know we can't eat, think, act and move perfectly, 100% of the time, so instead we're aiming to be healthy...ish. Join us, every morning, from Monday to Friday. 


For more, head to www.bodyandsoul.com.au

Zara McDonald and Michelle Andrews are something of a two-woman media empire. After leaving their roles at a mass digital publishing company, the journalist friends decided to go it alone and launch a podcast that their ex-employee didn’t want. The fac...