Current healthcare marketing doesn’t reflect the current realities of choices. On the Relevant Podcast Channel, award-winning healthcare thought leader Jared Johnson and a rotating set of guest hosts challenge the conventional wisdom of healthcare B2B and B2C marketing, technology, careers, and leadership. 

Current healthcare marketing doesn’t reflect the current realities of choices. On the Relevant Podcast Channel, award-winning healthcare thought leader Jared Johnson and a rotating set of guest hosts challenge the conventional wisdom of healthcare B2B and B2C marketing, technology, careers, and leadership.

Healthcare Rap is the leading podcast about how consumer health works. Hosts Jared Johnson and Zain Ismail spotlight how healthcare is being designed, marketed, and delivered from the consumer point of view and profile leaders who are championing the move to preventive care.

It is one of the longest-lasting podcasts in the industry, passing 500 episodes and 8 years on the air, and ranks in the top 5% of all podcasts globally. Highlights include CEOs, founders and other senior leaders from Oura, Whoop, Noom, Superpower, Novo Nordisk, Best Buy Health, CVS Health, Google, Microsoft, and hundreds more.

Topics for 2026: 
Connected fitness 
GLP-1's / weight loss 
Wearables
Longevity and diagnostics 
Food as medicine / nutrition 
Preventive health and wellness 
Digital Front Door 
Nontraditional care models - direct primary care, retail care, health at home, digital health, functional and integrative health 
Digital health and consumer brands making waves and new entrants making a splash 

Topics not covered: 
Clinical leadership 
Cybersecurity 
Health information management 
Interoperability 
Revenue cycle 

<a href="https://healthcarerap.com/"></a>Healthcare Rap <a href="https://healthcarerap.com/"></a>is the leading podcast about how consumer health works. Hosts Jared Johnson and Zain Ismail spotlight how healthcare is being designed, marketed, and delivered from the consumer point of view and profile leaders who are championing the move to preventive care.
It is one of the longest-lasting podcasts in the industry, passing 500 episodes and 8 years on the air, and <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/healthcare-rap-shift-forward-health-dAvhm_j30sN/">ranks in the top 5% of all podcasts globally</a>. Highlights include CEOs, founders and other senior leaders from Oura, Whoop, Noom, Superpower, Novo Nordisk, Best Buy Health, CVS Health, Google, Microsoft, and hundreds more.
Topics for 2026:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li>Connected fitness&nbsp;</li>
<li>GLP-1's / weight loss&nbsp;</li>
<li>Wearables</li>
<li>Longevity and diagnostics&nbsp;</li>
<li>Food as medicine / nutrition&nbsp;</li>
<li>Preventive health and wellness&nbsp;</li>
<li>Digital Front Door&nbsp;</li>
<li>Nontraditional care models - direct primary care, retail care, health at home, digital health, functional and integrative health&nbsp;</li>
<li>Digital health and consumer brands making waves and new entrants making a splash&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
Topics not&nbsp;covered:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li>Clinical leadership&nbsp;</li>
<li>Cybersecurity&nbsp;</li>
<li>Health information management&nbsp;</li>
<li>Interoperability&nbsp;</li>
<li>Revenue cycle&nbsp;</li>
</ul>

The leading podcast about consumer-centered health

Healthcare Rap

Healthcare Rap Media is a healthcare media and community platform facilitating conversations between healthcare leaders, marketers, operators, innovators, and technology companies through podcasts, virtual events, collaborative cohorts, research, and micro-content experiences.

Healthcare Rap Media is a healthcare media and community platform facilitating conversations between healthcare leaders, marketers, operators, innovators, and technology companies through podcasts, virtual events, collaborative cohorts, research, and micro-content experiences.

Healthcare Rap Media

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Rule #10 is to keep it real. Just be you! Feel empowered to speak personally and with authority when posting on social media. Every little interaction helps people know and trust you as a person, which helps them buy from you down the road.

The New Rules of Relevance is a thought-provoking series from veterans Jared Johnson and Mitch Holdwick about what it takes to succeed in the modern world of B2B healthcare marketing. Let's dig in! (Relevant #20) 

Rule #10 is to keep it real. Just be you! Feel empowered to speak personally and with authority when posting on social media. Every little interaction helps people know and trust you as a person, which helps them buy from you down the road.
The New Rules of Relevance is a thought-provoking series from veterans Jared Johnson and Mitch Holdwick about what it takes to succeed in the modern world of B2B healthcare marketing. Let's dig in! (Relevant #20)

NEW RULES: Keep It Real (#10)

Rule #9 is to value patience. Because buying cycles are so long in tech and services, client education and industry relationships are more valuable for B2B organizations. Often the tech evolves more quickly than hospital leaders' ability to understand its value, so it's even more important to see yourself as a resource to help the evangelists influence decision makers, rather than forcing them down a funnel. 

The New Rules of Relevance is a thought-provoking series from veterans Jared Johnson and Mitch Holdwick about what it takes to succeed in the modern world of B2B healthcare marketing. Let's dig in! (Relevant #19) 

Rule #9 is to value patience. Because buying cycles are so long in tech and services, client education and industry relationships are more valuable for B2B organizations. Often the tech evolves more quickly than hospital leaders' ability to understand its value, so it's even more important to see yourself as a resource to help the evangelists influence decision makers, rather than forcing them down a funnel. 
The New Rules of Relevance is a thought-provoking series from veterans Jared Johnson and Mitch Holdwick about what it takes to succeed in the modern world of B2B healthcare marketing. Let's dig in! (Relevant #19)

NEW RULES: Value Patience (#9)

Rule #8 is to lead with curiosity. Curiosity is necessary in this pivotal time in marketing because of emerging technologies such as generative AI. Successful marketing leaders don't wait for all of the answers before taking the first step. 

The New Rules of Relevance is a thought-provoking series from veterans Jared Johnson and Mitch Holdwick about what it takes to succeed in the modern world of B2B healthcare marketing. Let's dig in! (Relevant #18) 

Rule #8 is to lead with curiosity. Curiosity is necessary in this pivotal time in marketing because of emerging technologies such as generative AI. Successful marketing leaders don't wait for all of the answers before taking the first step. 
The New Rules of Relevance is a thought-provoking series from veterans Jared Johnson and Mitch Holdwick about what it takes to succeed in the modern world of B2B healthcare marketing. Let's dig in! (Relevant #18)

NEW RULES: Lead With Curiosity (#8)

Rule #7 is to ungate your funnel ... OK, well most of it. If you force every buyer down the same road, they often won't make it to your destination. Considering the benefits of opening up some of your content rather than gating it can help you simplify your sequences and improve your overall win rate. 

The New Rules of Relevance is a thought-provoking series from veterans Jared Johnson and Mitch Holdwick about what it takes to succeed in the modern world of B2B healthcare marketing. Let's dig in! (Relevant #17) 

Rule #7 is to ungate your funnel ... OK, well most of it. If you force every buyer down the same road, they often won't make it to your destination. Considering the benefits of opening up some of your content rather than gating it can help you simplify your sequences and improve your overall win rate. 
The New Rules of Relevance is a thought-provoking series from veterans Jared Johnson and Mitch Holdwick about what it takes to succeed in the modern world of B2B healthcare marketing. Let's dig in! (Relevant #17)

NEW RULES: Ungate Your Funnel (#7)

Rule #6 is to meet buyers where they are, and that means to evolve your content strategy. For effective B2B marketers, the days of expecting your public-facing content to do the heavy lifting are gone. Buyers want more social proof than ever, and that means they're looking for recommendations in more "dark" channels -- Slack channels, Discord communities, and other private groups of their peers. 

The New Rules of Relevance is a thought-provoking series from veterans Jared Johnson and Mitch Holdwick about what it takes to succeed in the modern world of B2B healthcare marketing. Let's dig in! (Relevant #16) 

Rule #6 is to meet buyers where they are, and that means to evolve your content strategy. For effective B2B marketers, the days of expecting your public-facing content to do the heavy lifting are gone. Buyers want more social proof than ever, and that means they're looking for recommendations in more "dark" channels -- Slack channels, Discord communities, and other private groups of their peers. 
The New Rules of Relevance is a thought-provoking series from veterans Jared Johnson and Mitch Holdwick about what it takes to succeed in the modern world of B2B healthcare marketing. Let's dig in! (Relevant #16)

NEW RULES: Meet Buyers Where They Are (#6)

Rule #5 is to educate your buyers at scale in order to reduce the buying cycle. Healthcare leaders are flooded with noise everyday, so you can expedite the road to a sale by focusing on the buyer's journey as opposed to your selling journey. When you see your role as educating rather than forcing someone down a funnel, you create moments of trust that lead to faster results. 

The New Rules of Relevance is a thought-provoking series from veterans Jared Johnson and Mitch Holdwick about what it takes to succeed in the modern world of B2B healthcare marketing. Let's dig in! (Relevant #15) 

Rule #5 is to educate your buyers at scale in order to reduce the buying cycle. Healthcare leaders are flooded with noise everyday, so you can expedite the road to a sale by focusing on the buyer's journey as opposed to your selling journey. When you see your role as educating rather than forcing someone down a funnel, you create moments of trust that lead to faster results. 
The New Rules of Relevance is a thought-provoking series from veterans Jared Johnson and Mitch Holdwick about what it takes to succeed in the modern world of B2B healthcare marketing. Let's dig in! (Relevant #15)

NEW RULES: Educate Your Buyers At Scale (#5)

Rule #4 is to modernize your value proposition. Healthcare and health tech brands tend to tout their solutions as the answer to lots of problems, but that's hard to convey to a busy buyer who might just care about one thing. It’s one thing to tell yourselves that you’re seeing the problem from the customer’s point of view; it’s another thing if the customer agrees! 

The New Rules of Relevance is a thought-provoking series from veterans Jared Johnson and Mitch Holdwick about what it takes to succeed in the modern world of B2B healthcare marketing. Let's dig in! (Relevant #14) 

Rule #4 is to modernize your value proposition. Healthcare and health tech brands tend to tout their solutions as the answer to lots of problems, but that's hard to convey to a busy buyer who might just care about one thing. It’s one thing to tell yourselves that you’re seeing the problem from the customer’s point of view; it’s another thing if the customer agrees! 
The New Rules of Relevance is a thought-provoking series from veterans Jared Johnson and Mitch Holdwick about what it takes to succeed in the modern world of B2B healthcare marketing. Let's dig in! (Relevant #14)

NEW RULES: Modernize Your Value Proposition (#4)

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The Reason

The Call

Rule #3 is to over-index on creating demand and find a better balance between generating demand and capturing it in order to better reach today's B2B buyers and ultimately win their business. 

The New Rules of Relevance is a thought-provoking series from veterans Jared Johnson and Mitch Holdwick about what it takes to succeed in the modern world of B2B healthcare marketing. Let's dig in! (Relevant #13) 

Rule #3 is to over-index on creating demand and find a better balance between generating demand and capturing it in order to better reach today's B2B buyers and ultimately win their business. 
The New Rules of Relevance is a thought-provoking series from veterans Jared Johnson and Mitch Holdwick about what it takes to succeed in the modern world of B2B healthcare marketing. Let's dig in! (Relevant #13)

NEW RULES: Over-Index on Creating Demand (#3)

Rule #2 is to understand the full ecosystem of buying choices that healthcare organizations are making and challenges that they are trying to address. 

The New Rules of Relevance is a thought-provoking series from veterans Jared Johnson and Mitch Holdwick about what it takes to succeed in the modern world of B2B healthcare marketing. Let's dig in! 

(Relevant #12) 

Rule #2 is to understand the full ecosystem of buying choices that healthcare organizations are making and challenges that they are trying to address. 
The New Rules of Relevance is a thought-provoking series from veterans Jared Johnson and Mitch Holdwick about what it takes to succeed in the modern world of B2B healthcare marketing. Let's dig in! 
(Relevant #12)

NEW RULES: Understand the Full Ecosystem (#2)

It's here! The New Rules of Relevance is a thought-provoking series from veterans Jared Johnson and Mitch Holdwick about what it takes to succeed in the modern world of B2B healthcare marketing. 

Marketing to healthcare organizations is hard, and a lot of current marketing strategies no longer reflect buyers’ preferences. This is why it’s harder than ever for brands to be relevant to modern healthcare buyers. And THAT’s why we’ve created these New Rules of Relevance – to give you a roadmap to navigate these changes and set you up for success. 

It all starts with Rule #1: Put yourself in your buyer's shoes. Let's dig in!

(Relevant #11) 

It's here! The New Rules of Relevance is a thought-provoking series from veterans Jared Johnson and Mitch Holdwick about what it takes to succeed in the modern world of B2B healthcare marketing. 
Marketing to healthcare organizations is hard, and a lot of current marketing strategies no longer reflect buyers’ preferences. This is why it’s harder than ever for brands to be relevant to modern healthcare buyers. And THAT’s why we’ve created these New Rules of Relevance – to give you a roadmap to navigate these changes and set you up for success. 
It all starts with Rule #1: Put yourself in your buyer's shoes. Let's dig in!
(Relevant #11)

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