Are well-intentioned vaccine policies making access harder instead of easier? In this episode of Healthcare Matters, hosts Dr. Robert Popovian and Ben Blanc unpack a new report from the Global Healthy Living Foundation (GHLF) on how Shared Clinical Decision Making (SCDM) and risk-based recommendations may unintentionally reduce adult vaccination rates—particularly in underserved communities. From real-world data showing a 10 percent drop in pneumococcal vaccine uptake to sharp disparities in meningitis coverage, the findings are hard to ignore.

Tune in as we explore how these policies may create confusion, widen health inequities, and hinder access—and what can be done to fix it.

Among the highlights in this episode:

03:00: Dr. Popovian explains what Shared Clinical Decision Making (SCDM) is and the role of Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), noting the challenges of expecting time-strapped physicians to hold complex conversations with patients

06:00: Dr. Popovian expresses concern that SCDM can lead to decreased immunization rates due to misaligned expectations and informational imbalance

07:15: Dr. Popovian cites a 10 percent drop in pneumococcal vaccine uptake after its recommendation changed from “routine” to SCDM, and notes a striking difference in coverage between the quadrivalent meningococcal vaccine (60.8%) and MenB (11.9%) meningitis vaccines, the latter being subject to SCDM

10:03: Dr. Popovian explains that pharmacists and clinic-based providers often lack access to patients’ full medical records—making risk-based decisions difficult in practice

13:47: Dr. Popovian explains that patients in underserved areas often rely on pharmacies or federally qualified health clinics, where continuity of care is lacking and risk assessments are harder to verify—exacerbating health inequities

15:59: Dr. Popovian predicts the administration will double down on SCDM and patient-led decisions—likely leading to lower vaccination rates and reduced herd immunity

17:58: Dr. Popovian warns that some states (like Louisiana) are banning public health messaging about vaccines, making the role of advocacy organizations even more critical in providing accurate information

19:00: Ben emphasizes the importance of education, outreach, and advocacy to bridge the gap between policy and real-world vaccination practices

19:00: Dr. Popovian calls for aligning ACIP recommendations with FDA labels and tracking the public health consequences of recent policy changes

20:02: Dr. Popovian shares some final thoughts

For more information about “Enhancing Adult Vaccine Uptake: Challenges in Shared Clinical Decision Making and Risk-Based Recommendations,” and to access the full report, visit: https://ghlf.org/issues/vaccines/enhancing_adult_vaccine_uptake/

Contact Our Hosts

Dr. Robert Popovian, Chief Science Policy Officer at GHLF: rpopovian@ghlf.org

Ben Blanc, Director, Digital Production and Engagement at GHLF: bblanc@ghlf.org

A podcast series produced by Ben Blanc.

We want to hear what you think. Send your comments, or a video or audio clip of yourself, to podcasts@ghlf.org

Listen to all episodes of Healthcare Matters on our website or on your favorite podcast channel.

Are well-intentioned vaccine policies making access harder instead of easier? In this episode of Healthcare Matters, hosts Dr. Robert Popovian and Ben Blanc unpack a new report from the Global Healthy Living Foundation (GHLF) on how Shared Clinical Decision Making (SCDM) and risk-based recommendations may unintentionally reduce adult vaccination rates&mdash;particularly in underserved communities. From real-world data showing a 10 percent drop in pneumococcal vaccine uptake to sharp disparities in meningitis coverage, the findings are hard to ignore.
Tune in as we explore how these policies may create confusion, widen health inequities, and hinder access&mdash;and what can be done to fix it.
Among the highlights in this episode:
03:00: Dr. Popovian explains what Shared Clinical Decision Making (SCDM) is and the role of Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), noting the challenges of expecting time-strapped physicians to hold complex conversations with patients
06:00: Dr. Popovian expresses concern that SCDM can lead to decreased immunization rates due to misaligned expectations and informational imbalance
07:15: Dr. Popovian cites a 10 percent drop in pneumococcal vaccine uptake after its recommendation changed from &ldquo;routine&rdquo; to SCDM, and notes a striking difference in coverage between the quadrivalent meningococcal vaccine (60.8%) and MenB (11.9%) meningitis vaccines, the latter being subject to SCDM
10:03: Dr. Popovian explains that pharmacists and clinic-based providers often lack access to patients&rsquo; full medical records&mdash;making risk-based decisions difficult in practice
13:47: Dr. Popovian explains that patients in underserved areas often rely on pharmacies or federally qualified health clinics, where continuity of care is lacking and risk assessments are harder to verify&mdash;exacerbating health inequities
15:59: Dr. Popovian predicts the administration will double down on SCDM and patient-led decisions&mdash;likely leading to lower vaccination rates and reduced herd immunity
17:58: Dr. Popovian warns that some states (like Louisiana) are banning public health messaging about vaccines, making the role of advocacy organizations even more critical in providing accurate information
19:00: Ben emphasizes the importance of education, outreach, and advocacy to bridge the gap between policy and real-world vaccination practices
19:00: Dr. Popovian calls for aligning ACIP recommendations with FDA labels and tracking the public health consequences of recent policy changes
20:02: Dr. Popovian shares some final thoughts
For more information about &ldquo;Enhancing Adult Vaccine Uptake: Challenges in Shared Clinical Decision Making and Risk-Based Recommendations,&rdquo; and to access the full report, visit: <a href="https://ghlf.org/issues/vaccines/enhancing_adult_vaccine_uptake/">https://ghlf.org/issues/vaccines/enhancing_adult_vaccine_uptake/</a>
Contact Our Hosts
Dr. Robert Popovian, Chief Science Policy Officer at GHLF: <a href="mailto:rpopovian@ghlf.org">rpopovian@ghlf.org</a>
Ben Blanc, Director, Digital Production and Engagement at GHLF: <a href="mailto:bblanc@ghlf.org">bblanc@ghlf.org</a>
A podcast series produced by Ben Blanc.
We want to hear what you think. Send your comments, or a video or audio clip of yourself, to <a href="mailto:podcasts@ghlf.org">podcasts@ghlf.org</a>
Listen to all episodes of Healthcare Matters on our website or on your favorite podcast channel.

Welcome to Healthcare Matters! In this podcast, we talk about 'matters' in healthcare and why it matters to you! 

Our host Ben Blanc will speak with our talented Chief Science Officer Robert Popovian. And together, we will take on some pretty complex topics and distil them, so everyone can understand what is happening in the world of healthcare. 

The show is brought to you by the Global Healthy Living Foundation. 

www.ghlf.org

Welcome to Healthcare Matters! In this podcast, we talk about 'matters' in healthcare and why it matters to you! 
Our host Ben Blanc will speak with our talented Chief Science Officer Robert Popovian. And together, we will take on some pretty complex topics and distil them, so everyone can understand what is happening in the world of healthcare. 
The show is brought to you by the Global Healthy Living Foundation. 
www.ghlf.org

Healthcare Matters

A podcast that pulls back the curtain to help you make sense of complex healthcare economics and policy issues. Our goal is to help simplify the complexities in healthcare economics and policy issues for you.

The podcast is part of the Global Healthy Living Foundation Podcast Network and hosted by Dr. Robert Popovian, Chief Science Policy Officer at GHLF and Ben Blanc, Associate Director, Digital Production and Engagement at GHLF.

A podcast that pulls back the curtain to help you make sense of complex healthcare economics and policy issues. Our goal is to help simplify the complexities in healthcare economics and policy issues for you.
The podcast is part of the Global Healthy Living Foundation Podcast Network and hosted by Dr. Robert Popovian, Chief Science Policy Officer at GHLF and Ben Blanc, Associate Director, Digital Production and Engagement at GHLF.

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