In this episode, Dr. Robert Popovian and Ben Blanc are joined by Kate Hudson, Associate Vice President and Counsel for Government Relations and Public Policy at the Association of American Universities, to dissect the complex issue of march-in rights. They delve into how this regulation negatively influences the partnership between public research and private sector investment, which is crucial for supporting biopharmaceutical innovation from university labs to a patient’s bedside. The episode reveals march-in rights' potential risks and benefits, especially how the policy might impact innovation and patient access to future therapies.

Among the highlights in this episode:

02:25: Researchers found that 75% of all Food and Drug Administration-approved drugs between January 2008 and December 2017 were funded and researched by private companies, with only 19% of the approved drugs having origins in publicly supported research and development, and 6% originating in companies that were spun from publicly supported research programs

03:48: Kate shares her professional journey and current role at the Association of American Universities

06:06: Kate explains the concept of march-in rights under the Bayh-Dole Act, detailing its purpose, application, and implications for intellectual property generated from federally funded research

09:52: Dr. Popovian describes his involvement with University Pharmco and its mission to promote research commercialization, emphasizing the potential impact of march-in rights on such initiatives

12:19: Kate addresses why the debate around march-in rights is crucial from a patient's perspective, particularly concerning the potential chilling effect on innovation and drug development

17:18: Kate provides her perspective on how march-in rights could influence private sector investment, potentially driving it outside the United States, and discusses the international adoption of similar legislative frameworks

19:54: Dr. Popovian shares some final thoughts

Contact Our Hosts

Dr. Robert Popovian, Chief Science Policy Officer at GHLF: rpopovian@ghlf.org

Ben Blanc, Associate Director, Digital Production and Engagement at GHLF: bblanc@ghlf.org

A podcast series produced by Ben Blanc.

We want to hear what you think. Send your comments, or a video or audio clip of yourself, to podcasts@ghlf.org

Listen to all episodes of Healthcare Matters on our website or on your favorite podcast channel.

In this episode, Dr. Robert Popovian and Ben Blanc are joined by Kate Hudson, Associate Vice President and Counsel for Government Relations and Public Policy at the Association of American Universities, to dissect the complex issue of march-in rights. They delve into how this regulation negatively influences the partnership between public research and private sector investment, which is crucial for supporting biopharmaceutical innovation from university labs to a patient’s bedside. The episode reveals march-in rights' potential risks and benefits, especially how the policy might impact innovation and patient access to future therapies.
Among the highlights in this episode:
02:25: Researchers found that 75% of all Food and Drug Administration-approved drugs between January 2008 and December 2017 were funded and researched by private companies, with only 19% of the approved drugs having origins in publicly supported research and development, and 6% originating in companies that were spun from publicly supported research programs
03:48: Kate shares her professional journey and current role at the Association of American Universities
06:06: Kate explains the concept of march-in rights under the Bayh-Dole Act, detailing its purpose, application, and implications for intellectual property generated from federally funded research
09:52: Dr. Popovian describes his involvement with University Pharmco and its mission to promote research commercialization, emphasizing the potential impact of march-in rights on such initiatives
12:19: Kate addresses why the debate around march-in rights is crucial from a patient's perspective, particularly concerning the potential chilling effect on innovation and drug development
17:18: Kate provides her perspective on how march-in rights could influence private sector investment, potentially driving it outside the United States, and discusses the international adoption of similar legislative frameworks
19:54: Dr. Popovian shares some final thoughts
Contact Our Hosts
Dr. Robert Popovian, Chief Science Policy Officer at GHLF: <a href="mailto:rpopovian@ghlf.org">rpopovian@ghlf.org</a>
Ben Blanc, Associate Director, Digital Production and Engagement at GHLF: <a href="mailto:bblanc@ghlf.org">bblanc@ghlf.org</a>
A podcast series produced by Ben Blanc.
We want to hear what you think. Send your comments, or a video or audio clip of yourself, to <a href="mailto:podcasts@ghlf.org">podcasts@ghlf.org</a>
Listen to all episodes of Healthcare Matters on our website or on your favorite podcast channel.

Welcome to Healthcare Matters! In this podcast, we talk about 'matters' in healthcare and why it matters to you! 

Our host Ben Blanc will speak with our talented Chief Science Officer Robert Popovian. And together, we will take on some pretty complex topics and distil them, so everyone can understand what is happening in the world of healthcare. 

The show is brought to you by the Global Healthy Living Foundation. 

www.ghlf.org

Welcome to Healthcare Matters! In this podcast, we talk about 'matters' in healthcare and why it matters to you! 
Our host Ben Blanc will speak with our talented Chief Science Officer Robert Popovian. And together, we will take on some pretty complex topics and distil them, so everyone can understand what is happening in the world of healthcare. 
The show is brought to you by the Global Healthy Living Foundation. 
www.ghlf.org

Healthcare Matters

A podcast that pulls back the curtain to help you make sense of complex healthcare economics and policy issues. Our goal is to help simplify the complexities in healthcare economics and policy issues for you.

The podcast is part of the Global Healthy Living Foundation Podcast Network and hosted by Dr. Robert Popovian, Chief Science Policy Officer at GHLF and Ben Blanc, Associate Director, Digital Production and Engagement at GHLF.

A podcast that pulls back the curtain to help you make sense of complex healthcare economics and policy issues. Our goal is to help simplify the complexities in healthcare economics and policy issues for you.
The podcast is part of the Global Healthy Living Foundation Podcast Network and hosted by Dr. Robert Popovian, Chief Science Policy Officer at GHLF and Ben Blanc, Associate Director, Digital Production and Engagement at GHLF.

S5, Ep 4- Balancing Act: March-In Rights and Medical Innovation

In this episode of Healthcare Matters, Dr. Robert Popovian, Ben Blanc, and guest Corey Greenblatt, Director of State Policy and Advocacy at GHLF, dive into the complexities of vaccine guidelines and access. They discuss the role of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), with Corey sharing insights on GHLF’s advocacy to make vaccines more accessible. Dr. Popovian underscores the importance of aligning guidelines with FDA labeled indication or to institute more common sense ACIP guidance that can be applied at the community level to improve clarity for health care providers and access for patients.

Tune in to learn how streamlined guidelines, improved patient data access, and empowered health care providers can drive better patient care in the U.S.

Among the highlights in this episode:

02:41: Dr. Popovian explains the role of ACIP and its impact on vaccine recommendations, which are based on expert consensus and cost-effectiveness, emphasizing its relevance for patients with chronic illnesses

04:03: Corey Greenblatt shares GHLF’s feedback to ACIP regarding proposed RSV guidelines, focusing on the need for improved vaccine access for older patients and the limitations of relying on patient self-reporting for eligibility

06:35: Corey highlights the importance of pharmacies in vaccine access, especially in underserved communities, and stresses that empowering pharmacists to make informed decisions could increase vaccine uptake among high-risk populations

07:04: Corey discusses challenges of implementing ACIP’s RSV guidelines in community pharmacy settings, especially for patients aged 60 to 74, stressing the importance of aligning guidelines with FDA recommendations to empower pharmacists

09:01: Dr. Popovian elaborates on the limitations of patient self-reporting in health care, explaining how it can conflict with health care providers' training and undermine clinical judgment

11:57: Dr. Popovian and Ben discuss patient data ownership, with Ben explaining how France’s centralized health care system provides patients with direct access to their medical records, a stark contrast to the fragmented approach in the U.S.

15:35: Ben compares the U.S. and French health care systems, focusing on patient access to medical records, and how France’s centralized system enables better record access and coordination

19:55: Dr. Popovian advocates for alignment between ACIP guidelines and FDA labels, noting that clear, consistent guidelines would aid health care providers, particularly pharmacists, in safely delivering vaccines

24:47: Dr. Popovian shares some final thoughts

Contact Our Hosts

Dr. Robert Popovian, Chief Science Policy Officer at GHLF: rpopovian@ghlf.org

Ben Blanc, Associate Director, Digital Production and Engagement at GHLF: bblanc@ghlf.org

A podcast series produced by Ben Blanc.

We want to hear what you think. Send your comments, or a video or audio clip of yourself, to podcasts@ghlf.org

Listen to all episodes of Healthcare Matters on our website or on your favorite podcast channel.

In this episode of Healthcare Matters, Dr. Robert Popovian, Ben Blanc, and guest Corey Greenblatt, Director of State Policy and Advocacy at GHLF, dive into the complexities of vaccine guidelines and access. They discuss the role of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), with Corey sharing insights on GHLF’s advocacy to make vaccines more accessible. Dr. Popovian underscores the importance of aligning guidelines with FDA labeled indication or to institute more common sense ACIP guidance that can be applied at the community level to improve clarity for health care providers and access for patients.
Tune in to learn how streamlined guidelines, improved patient data access, and empowered health care providers can drive better patient care in the U.S.
Among the highlights in this episode:
02:41: Dr. Popovian explains the role of ACIP and its impact on vaccine recommendations, which are based on expert consensus and cost-effectiveness, emphasizing its relevance for patients with chronic illnesses
04:03: Corey Greenblatt shares GHLF’s feedback to ACIP regarding proposed RSV guidelines, focusing on the need for improved vaccine access for older patients and the limitations of relying on patient self-reporting for eligibility
06:35: Corey highlights the importance of pharmacies in vaccine access, especially in underserved communities, and stresses that empowering pharmacists to make informed decisions could increase vaccine uptake among high-risk populations
07:04: Corey discusses challenges of implementing ACIP’s RSV guidelines in community pharmacy settings, especially for patients aged 60 to 74, stressing the importance of aligning guidelines with FDA recommendations to empower pharmacists
09:01: Dr. Popovian elaborates on the limitations of patient self-reporting in health care, explaining how it can conflict with health care providers' training and undermine clinical judgment
11:57: Dr. Popovian and Ben discuss patient data ownership, with Ben explaining how France’s centralized health care system provides patients with direct access to their medical records, a stark contrast to the fragmented approach in the U.S.
15:35: Ben compares the U.S. and French health care systems, focusing on patient access to medical records, and how France’s centralized system enables better record access and coordination
19:55: Dr. Popovian advocates for alignment between ACIP guidelines and FDA labels, noting that clear, consistent guidelines would aid health care providers, particularly pharmacists, in safely delivering vaccines
24:47: Dr. Popovian shares some final thoughts
Contact Our Hosts
Dr. Robert Popovian, Chief Science Policy Officer at GHLF: <a href="mailto:rpopovian@ghlf.org">rpopovian@ghlf.org</a>
Ben Blanc, Associate Director, Digital Production and Engagement at GHLF: <a href="mailto:bblanc@ghlf.org">bblanc@ghlf.org</a>
A podcast series produced by Ben Blanc.
We want to hear what you think. Send your comments, or a video or audio clip of yourself, to <a href="mailto:podcasts@ghlf.org">podcasts@ghlf.org</a>
Listen to all episodes of Healthcare Matters on our website or on your favorite podcast channel.

S5, Ep 10- Decoding the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices' Vaccine Guidelines: What Patients and Providers Need to Know

In this episode of Healthcare Matters, Dr. Robert Popovian and Ben Blanc unpack the often unpredictable nature of political affiliations in relation to support for patient-centric policies, particularly in the realm of drug pricing and the influence of Pharmacy Benefit Managers (PBMs). They discuss bipartisan efforts to address drug pricing reforms and delve into Governor Newsom's controversial veto of the PBM Reform Bill in California. Additionally, the episode covers the FTC’s lawsuit against PBMs over insulin pricing and assesses its potential implications for patient care. Dr. Popovian also challenges a misleading statement by The Wall Street Journal regarding drug rebates.

Among the highlights in this episode:

01:03: Dr. Popovian dives into the critical issues surrounding drug policy, emphasizing how political affiliation sometimes doesn't align with effective health care policy for patients, highlighting the cross-party collaboration and conflict within drug pricing reforms

02:09: Dr. Popovian elaborates on the complex nature of drug pricing policies, pointing out the unusual alliances formed across political lines. He discusses how both conservative and liberal politicians have joined forces to address issues with Pharmacy Benefit Management companies (PBMs), which he identifies as major contributors to the problems within the drug pricing system

03:56: Dr. Popovian challenges a statement by The Wall Street Journal concerning rebate contracting in drug pricing, clarifying that while rebates are permitted there is no legislative requirement forcing PBMs to adopt rebate contracting. Dr. Popovian points out that alternative pricing models like net price contracting are viable and used by large insurers like Kaiser in California without relying on rebate contracts

You can find Dr. Popovian’s LinkedIn posts on this topic below:

-       https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7246621458792165376/

-       https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7245454053596422144/

To read the full article from The Wall Street Journal, visit: https://www.wsj.com/opinion/federal-trade-commission-pharmacy-benefit-managers-insulin-43b0a974?mod=opinion_lead_pos1

05:35: Dr. Popovian discusses a controversial veto of the PBM Reform Bill in California by Governor Newsom, analyzing the negative implications for patient care in California and contrasting this with other states' more patient-friendly policies

08:15: Our hosts discuss the FTC's lawsuit against major PBMs regarding insulin pricing, exploring how past practices of PBMs have escalated costs and restricted patient access to essential medications

10:58: Dr. Popovian sheds light on the critical role of patient self-advocacy in navigating a health care system dominated by PBMs and insurers, stressing the importance of patient education and legislative support to safeguard patient rights

12:08: Ben lists a series of tips on navigating health information on social media, emphasizing critical thinking and the importance of sourcing information from credible and knowledgeable sources

14:03: Dr. Popovian shares some final thoughts

Contact Our Hosts

Dr. Robert Popovian, Chief Science Policy Officer at GHLF: rpopovian@ghlf.org

Ben Blanc, Associate Director, Digital Production and Engagement at GHLF: bblanc@ghlf.org

A podcast series produced by Ben Blanc.

We want to hear what you think. Send your comments, or a video or audio clip of yourself, to podcasts@ghlf.org

Listen to all episodes of Healthcare Matters on our website or on your favorite podcast channel.

In this episode of Healthcare Matters, Dr. Robert Popovian and Ben Blanc unpack the often unpredictable nature of political affiliations in relation to support for patient-centric policies, particularly in the realm of drug pricing and the influence of Pharmacy Benefit Managers (PBMs). They discuss bipartisan efforts to address drug pricing reforms and delve into Governor Newsom's controversial veto of the PBM Reform Bill in California. Additionally, the episode covers the FTC’s lawsuit against PBMs over insulin pricing and assesses its potential implications for patient care. Dr. Popovian also challenges a misleading statement by The Wall Street Journal regarding drug rebates.
Among the highlights in this episode:
01:03: Dr. Popovian dives into the critical issues surrounding drug policy, emphasizing how political affiliation sometimes doesn't align with effective health care policy for patients, highlighting the cross-party collaboration and conflict within drug pricing reforms
02:09: Dr. Popovian elaborates on the complex nature of drug pricing policies, pointing out the unusual alliances formed across political lines. He discusses how both conservative and liberal politicians have joined forces to address issues with Pharmacy Benefit Management companies (PBMs), which he identifies as major contributors to the problems within the drug pricing system
03:56: Dr. Popovian challenges a statement by The Wall Street Journal concerning rebate contracting in drug pricing, clarifying that while rebates are permitted there is no legislative requirement forcing PBMs to adopt rebate contracting. Dr. Popovian points out that alternative pricing models like net price contracting are viable and used by large insurers like Kaiser in California without relying on rebate contracts
You can find Dr. Popovian’s LinkedIn posts on this topic below:
-       <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7246621458792165376/">https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7246621458792165376/</a>
-       <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7245454053596422144/">https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7245454053596422144/</a>
To read the full article from The Wall Street Journal, visit: <a href="https://www.wsj.com/opinion/federal-trade-commission-pharmacy-benefit-managers-insulin-43b0a974?mod=opinion_lead_pos1">https://www.wsj.com/opinion/federal-trade-commission-pharmacy-benefit-managers-insulin-43b0a974?mod=opinion_lead_pos1</a> 
05:35: Dr. Popovian discusses a controversial veto of the PBM Reform Bill in California by Governor Newsom, analyzing the negative implications for patient care in California and contrasting this with other states' more patient-friendly policies
08:15: Our hosts discuss the FTC's lawsuit against major PBMs regarding insulin pricing, exploring how past practices of PBMs have escalated costs and restricted patient access to essential medications
10:58: Dr. Popovian sheds light on the critical role of patient self-advocacy in navigating a health care system dominated by PBMs and insurers, stressing the importance of patient education and legislative support to safeguard patient rights
12:08: Ben lists a series of tips on navigating health information on social media, emphasizing critical thinking and the importance of sourcing information from credible and knowledgeable sources
14:03: Dr. Popovian shares some final thoughts
Contact Our Hosts
Dr. Robert Popovian, Chief Science Policy Officer at GHLF: <a href="mailto:rpopovian@ghlf.org">rpopovian@ghlf.org</a>
Ben Blanc, Associate Director, Digital Production and Engagement at GHLF: <a href="mailto:bblanc@ghlf.org">bblanc@ghlf.org</a>
A podcast series produced by Ben Blanc.
We want to hear what you think. Send your comments, or a video or audio clip of yourself, to <a href="mailto:podcasts@ghlf.org">podcasts@ghlf.org</a>
Listen to all episodes of Healthcare Matters on our website or on your favorite podcast channel.

S5, Ep 9- Policy & Politics: Decoding the Political Landscape of Health Care

In this episode of Healthcare Matters, join Dr. Robert Popovian and Ben Blanc as they delve into the issue of patient steering by Pharmacy Benefit Managers (PBMs). With firsthand accounts from guests Lou Tharp, Executive Director and Co-Founder of GHLF, and Dr. Anne Sydor, Director of Research Development at GHLF, the discussion highlights how PBM-owned pharmacies and policies like accumulators and maximizers limit patient choice and inflate out-of-pocket costs.

Tune in to learn more about the complex dynamics behind these practices, the impact on patient care, and the ongoing legislative efforts to protect patient rights.

Among the highlights in this episode:

03:01: Dr. Popovian explains the role of Pharmacy Benefit Managers (PBMs) in patient steering and their financial motivations for directing patients to PBM-owned pharmacies over independent ones

04:59: Lou shares his personal experiences with patient steering, explaining the challenges he faced with PBMs and his advocacy efforts that led to local policy changes

09:23: Dr. Sydor recounts the challenges she faced ensuring her son's medication continuity as he transitions to college, highlighting the barriers imposed by insurance companies regarding prescription fills

13:18: Lou discusses his negative experiences with at-home drug delivery due to PBM’s policies

15:26: Dr. Sydor criticizes the inefficiencies and customer service issues within PBMs, sharing her frustration with the lack of access to simple, generic medications due to PBM's mail order requirements

20:20: Dr. Popovian discusses state-level anti-steering legislation and federal initiatives aimed at reforming PBM practices, including a significant bill that proposes prohibiting PBMs from owning pharmacies to reduce conflicts of interest and promote patient care over profits

23:27: Dr. Popovian shares some final thoughts

If you want to use GHLF's interactive tool to explore health care premium cost trends state by state and learn more about patient assistance programs, visit: https://ghlf.org/copay-assistance-protection/

To learn more about House Committee on Oversight and Accountability Chairman James Comer’s call on the CEOs of the three major PBMs, go to: https://oversight.house.gov/release/chairman-comer-calls-on-pbm-executives-to-correct-hearing-testimony/

Contact Our Hosts

Dr. Robert Popovian, Chief Science Policy Officer at GHLF: rpopovian@ghlf.org

Ben Blanc, Associate Director, Digital Production and Engagement at GHLF: bblanc@ghlf.org

A podcast series produced by Ben Blanc.

We want to hear what you think. Send your comments, or a video or audio clip of yourself, to podcasts@ghlf.org

Listen to all episodes of Healthcare Matters on our website or on your favorite podcast channel.

In this episode of Healthcare Matters, join Dr. Robert Popovian and Ben Blanc as they delve into the issue of patient steering by Pharmacy Benefit Managers (PBMs). With firsthand accounts from guests Lou Tharp, Executive Director and Co-Founder of GHLF, and Dr. Anne Sydor, Director of Research Development at GHLF, the discussion highlights how PBM-owned pharmacies and policies like accumulators and maximizers limit patient choice and inflate out-of-pocket costs.
Tune in to learn more about the complex dynamics behind these practices, the impact on patient care, and the ongoing legislative efforts to protect patient rights.
Among the highlights in this episode:
03:01: Dr. Popovian explains the role of Pharmacy Benefit Managers (PBMs) in patient steering and their financial motivations for directing patients to PBM-owned pharmacies over independent ones
04:59: Lou shares his personal experiences with patient steering, explaining the challenges he faced with PBMs and his advocacy efforts that led to local policy changes
09:23: Dr. Sydor recounts the challenges she faced ensuring her son's medication continuity as he transitions to college, highlighting the barriers imposed by insurance companies regarding prescription fills
13:18: Lou discusses his negative experiences with at-home drug delivery due to PBM’s policies
15:26: Dr. Sydor criticizes the inefficiencies and customer service issues within PBMs, sharing her frustration with the lack of access to simple, generic medications due to PBM's mail order requirements
20:20: Dr. Popovian discusses state-level anti-steering legislation and federal initiatives aimed at reforming PBM practices, including a significant bill that proposes prohibiting PBMs from owning pharmacies to reduce conflicts of interest and promote patient care over profits
23:27: Dr. Popovian shares some final thoughts
If you want to use GHLF's interactive tool to explore health care premium cost trends state by state and learn more about patient assistance programs, visit: <a href="https://ghlf.org/copay-assistance-protection/">https://ghlf.org/copay-assistance-protection/</a>
To learn more about House Committee on Oversight and Accountability Chairman James Comer’s call on the CEOs of the three major PBMs, go to: <a href="https://oversight.house.gov/release/chairman-comer-calls-on-pbm-executives-to-correct-hearing-testimony/">https://oversight.house.gov/release/chairman-comer-calls-on-pbm-executives-to-correct-hearing-testimony/</a>
Contact Our Hosts
Dr. Robert Popovian, Chief Science Policy Officer at GHLF: <a href="mailto:rpopovian@ghlf.org">rpopovian@ghlf.org</a>
Ben Blanc, Associate Director, Digital Production and Engagement at GHLF: <a href="mailto:bblanc@ghlf.org">bblanc@ghlf.org</a>
A podcast series produced by Ben Blanc.
We want to hear what you think. Send your comments, or a video or audio clip of yourself, to <a href="mailto:podcasts@ghlf.org">podcasts@ghlf.org</a>
Listen to all episodes of Healthcare Matters on our website or on your favorite podcast channel.

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