Why you should step off a cliff, an interview with writer Ross Gay, and the fun of making the opposite of a to-do list.

Want to watch the "Roadmap to Happiness"? Check your local PBS station listings here:

http://pbs.org/gretchenrubin. Tell your friends, and if you watch, share your insights using the hashtag #GretchenRubinPBS. I’d love to hear your thoughts!

Get tickets for Gretchen's book tour and Happier podcast live events at: http://gretchenrubin.com/events

Get in touch on Instagram: @GretchenRubin & @LizCraft

Get the podcast show notes by email every week here: http://gretchenrubin.com/#newsletter

Order a copy of Gretchen’s new book OUTER ORDER, INNER CALM here: http://outerorderinnercalmbook.com

Get the resources and all links related to this episode here:http://happiercast.com/223

Leave a voicemail message on: 774-277-9336

To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices