Former England international David Flatman joins Isy and Dan in the studio to talk about his career at the highest level, the fierce rivalry between England and Wales and the unforgettable intensity of playing in front of a Welsh crowd.

Then it's off to Cardiff, where Welsh international Ben Thomas puts Isy and Dan through their paces, teaching them how to kick a rugby ball like a pro – with Flatman on hand in the studio to offer some hilarious additional commentary on their efforts.

The episode reaches new heights as Isy and Dan scale the roof of the huge Principality Stadium, taking in astonishing views across Cardiff and its castle before braving the zip wire – for the first time in 30 years.

Do they have what it takes to impress two international rugby players? And will they have the nerve to take that final leap?

We’re pleased to be supported by Great Western Railway. Adventures start here.

Former England international David Flatman joins Isy and Dan in the studio to talk about his career at the highest level, the fierce rivalry between England and Wales and the unforgettable intensity of playing in front of a Welsh crowd.
Then it's off to Cardiff, where Welsh international Ben Thomas puts Isy and Dan through their paces, teaching them how to kick a rugby ball like a pro &ndash; with Flatman on hand in the studio to offer some hilarious additional commentary on their efforts.
The episode reaches new heights as Isy and Dan scale the roof of the huge Principality Stadium, taking in astonishing views across Cardiff and its castle before braving the zip wire &ndash; for the first time in 30 years.
Do they have what it takes to impress two international rugby players? And will they have the nerve to take that final leap?
We&rsquo;re pleased to be supported by Great Western Railway. Adventures start here.

Great Escapes is the travel-comedy podcast that sends Isy Suttie and Dan Skinner across the South West and Wales to discover brilliant places, meet fascinating locals and throw themselves into experiences they might never normally try.

Join our endlessly curious adventurers as they surf inland waves, train with a Welsh rugby international, discover what makes the perfect British seaside holiday and even step into the wrestling ring with a London truck driver. Along the way, they meet the people who bring each destination to life and hear the stories that make every place unique.

It’s part travelogue, part comedy and all discovery. Tune in for unforgettable adventures, big laughs and plenty of surprises.

We’re pleased to be supported by Great Western Railway. Adventures start here.

Great Escapes is the travel-comedy podcast that sends Isy Suttie and Dan Skinner across the South West and Wales to discover brilliant places, meet fascinating locals and throw themselves into experiences they might never normally try.
Join our endlessly curious adventurers as they surf inland waves, train with a Welsh rugby international, discover what makes the perfect British seaside holiday and even step into the wrestling ring with a London truck driver. Along the way, they meet the people who bring each destination to life and hear the stories that make every place unique.
It&rsquo;s part travelogue, part comedy and all discovery. Tune in for unforgettable adventures, big laughs and plenty of surprises.
We&rsquo;re pleased to be supported by Great Western Railway. Adventures start here.