Paul interviews Keith Giles, former pastor who left the pulpit over a decade ago to follow Jesus. He’s the author of several books, including his newest release: Jesus Undefeated – Condemning the False Doctrine of eternal torment.

He is co-founder of Pacifist Fight Club [www.PacifistFightClub.com] and co-host of the Heretic Happy Hour Podcast. He and his family started a house church in Orange County, CA where 100% of the offering goes to help the poor in their community.  They recently moved to El Paso Tex.  Where he graduated from the University of Texas at El Paso with a Bachelor's Degree in Creative Writing and a minor in Philosophy. His films include, "Joe" and "Keith Giles:The Documentary", and  "Janitor:First Blood"]. He has a career as an advertising copywriter and has won numerous awards for his work.