Paul interviews Dave Carringer, author of “Born From Above” (waking up to our Genesis), just released in March 2020.  In 1996 at the age of 24, desperate from being involved in a life of drugs, violence and danger, Dave had an encounter with God that dramatically changed the trajectory of his life. He soon starting ministering to those in jail, teenagers on the street who were drinking and doing drugs, the abandoned elderly, and a host of others. Eventually he came to realize that the world doesn’t need more Bible teacher, rather it needs more carriers of the Father’s heart. He describes himself as an “ordinary guy on an extraordinary journey.”