In this episode, we talk to reality TV star, youth worker and mental health advocate Brooke Blurton. Many know her as the first Indigenous and bisexual Bachelorette from the dating-show franchise, but she's also an author, presenter and podcaster. Blurton talks with Konrad Marshall about everything from growing up in Western Australia to life after The Bachelorette and her recent TV collaboration with Tony Armstrong. As well: the "surreal experience" of working on the new season of the SBS program, Going Places with Ernie Dingo.

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