Hey, this is Jake going and this is Good Company. Welcome to Good Company, a podcast where we talk about everything under the sun, friends, good times, and company. Now here's your host. What's up, my friends, Jake. I am back with another episode of Good Company podcast. Uh with Jake, that's me and I am coming at you guys from what sounds like a very hollow room. It's my bar in Kingston Springs, Tennessee. Um, this is the first podcast that I have done from this establishment here in Kingston Springs. And uh, I'm sitting on a very comfortable couch staring across at a couple of great friends of mine that happened to be a Kingston Springs residents as well. And uh, this is gonna be a comfy conversation with two great friends of mine. You guys, say hello to Ted and Joscelyn Limmer. How are you guys doing? Doing well? Very good? Thank you? I can tell see you gotta You're gonna have to seriously loosen up. If if this is how it's gonna be, Jocelyn already told me drinks. That doesn't help. Jocelyn, why can't you drink because I'm pregnant little Charlie. She's got a little Charlie, she's got a little girl in the belly, and so she's not drinking. Although Ted, her wonderful husband, does enjoy a beer from time to time, and he decided, out of all the beers that I have in this bar, Ted decided to go with a honky Tonk Brew. Honky Tonk Brew. It's a local Nashville ale, that's right. Which one is that? Is that? The sour the sour cherry cherry Burliner? Right on? Well, I'm glad you enjoy that. Ted, I'm actually drinking a um banana bread Wells Banana bread Logger and myself right now. See, this is actually another first for me on the podcast. I've never really drank before while doing this podcast. Interesting. Then, yeah, well this is my first beer, so I think I think we're good on that. But uh, I'm really excited to tell everybody that's listening today, um, the beautiful story of my friends Ted and Jocelyn and Uh. As you know, I've had so many different people on this show from all different walks of life, and the main purpose each time is to talk with people that I genuinely care about that are friends of mine that have interesting stories to tell. And I've never really had an agenda with this whole show called good Company. I guess the real agenda is to be with good people and and share stories. And Ted and Jocelyn have one of the coolest stories of anyone that I know. So I wanted to kind of start first Ted and Johnson. You guys have been married now for how long? Three years? Three years? I met Ted and Jocelyn um out at the golf club um where we are both members that we play some golf, and Ted is known by a lot of us at the golf course as tour pants Ted. Why why do people call? Why do people call? Why do people call you? Tour panted? I like to wear pants on the golf course. It's very rare to see Ted in a pair of shorts on the golf course. He's always wearing pants, so he gets, you know, the uh, the moniker of tour pants Ted, Ted, you are wearing a really nice pair of pants tonight. Thank you appreciate that. Yeah, you can tell already that Ted. Ted and Johnson are a little reserved right now. They're they're trying to figure this out. They're like they've been here to the bar before, but they've never established this thing where I hand them a microphone and tell them that they're gonna have to tell their story. And speaking of that story, it's amazing. You guys have been married for three years. You said three and a half years. You met on Broadway in Nashville, Tennessee. Is this a true Is this a true statement? True statement? I love this story of Ted and Jocelyn together because you guys, as I've told you a million times over, they're just the perfect couple. You guys, You guys really set an example for anyone, not not only myself but anybody that we were eating uh Mexican food tonight and you were referencing someone you were talking to and she said to you, for just meeting you, she felt like you guys were warm friends and had known each other for a long time, and the love that you guys have for each other was like infectious and contagious, and uh it is that's the truth. And you were saying that tonight, telling me as if I didn't already know that, And that was honestly why I've always wanted to have you guys on here and talk with you. Um Number one just for the love you guys have for each other and what it's like to be a couple that's building a family, as you heard Jocelyn say that you got a baby in the oven. But so we're back to you guys meeting because this this is all we're moving way fast down the road. You guys met on Broadway in Nashville, Tennessee. How did this happen? To Ted? Alright, Well, so I'll give you my version of the story, and it'll be interesting to hear her version of the story. Um, but I have a good friend named Oliver, and uh he was assistant pro at the Golf Club of Tennessee, and he invited me to go out downtown with him one night. He had some friends in town from Florida and it was a bachelorette party. I was single at the time. He's like, hey, man, you want to go downtown. I'm like, sure, single, Why would I not want to go downtown with you and a bachette party? So so I go downtown. We quickly, about thirty minutes into the evening, realized that this group was like completely obnoxious and we really didn't want to be there, and uh so we ended up at honky Tonk Central. Been there, I've been there, yeah right. And so about an hour into being a honky Tonk Central, I had noticed this girl sitting at the bar and I had just, i mean been basically checking her out for like five minutes and just get courage to like, yeah, what was weird? Was I was your pickup line? Well? I was. I'm jumping ahead, but this is such a great story. Yeah, yeah, slow down. So I like swirl that I knew her from somewhere. I was just convinced that I knew her from somewhere, and I was just really smit with her from the minute I saw her. And so about that time, my buddy Oliver comes walking up to me, and for all those guys listening, you can appreciate your buddy comes up two single guys. You're like, all right, man, let's get out of here. This is not fun. Let's leave. And I was like, I don't know, man, there's this cute girl at the bar. And he kind of looked at me like, come on, man, let's get out of here. And I'm like, no, man, I really need to go to I really need to go talk to this girl. And so I go walking across the bar, and as a side notes, like that moment where you realize that your life is like this, choose your own adventure book where you know that's exactly what life is. Life is what you make it. Ted there you go, So you're getting that plug in there. I like that. So we could have left like just as easily left. So I walk across the bar and I walk up to her, and I noticed that she had this white, uh like rubber bracelet on like the Lance Armstrong Lived Strong bracelets, and I had the same pacelet on, and I thought, oh my gosh, she goes to my church because my church had given out these bracelets. So all this is leading up to I walk up to her and I said, Hey, I'm really sorry to bother you, but you go to my church which is by the way, which is by the way, like such a I've never I don't have any friends that have ever walked up Joe and said do you go to my church? Not to mention at Honky Talk Central like midnight. So I walked up your and I said, so do you go to my church? And she looks at me with one eye on a TV screen and one eye looking at me like so annoyed, like what, like, what what do you mean? And I said, oh, I thought you might go to cross Point in my church. And uh So meanwhile, now to realize that her mom was sitting with her and they were on a girl's trip together. I realized from you guys, you and your mom, You guys are from Seattle, Washington, Seattle, Washington, and you happen to be at Honky Talk Central at this point, just sitting there with your mom watching the Washington Huskies play. We were I was actually watching our rivals, the Washington State Sugars, and I was there was two minutes left and they were playing San Diego State, and the last thing you wanted at this time rooting against them, and I was they were about to lose. And I mean, like the game, that's the game all good Husky fans root against whoever the whoever their rival the Cougars are playing. So so at this point you're dialed into this game. Your mom sitting there next to you, guys, maybe crushing a beer too and tequila tequila. And here comes this guy and says, hey, I don't want to bother you, but do you go to my church? When being from the Washington you know, Pacific Northwest, like we go to we gone to church, but like it's not as big as a thing as it is in the South, and it's clearly not a pickup line. Well we kind of thought it was at first, because I mean, you are in the South, and my mom was like, oh, you just sit on down with us. Here. Of course, mom meets a guy who says, uh, do you go to my church? She's like, this is not like this guy. Yeah. So then just kind of the it was weird. I mean, they're not weird, but like the rest was history. We sat there and hung out and talked and um, sounds cheesy, but we were like literally holding hands that night walking down Broadway. And what's awesome is if my buddy Oliver was here right now, my buddy Oliver later that night, it's like I'm wing man in it with her mom. Man, Like I'm standing up. This is the greatest story. I love this, not only okay. So that's what's beautiful about y'all is it's not just your story that I know of you. It's everything that that you could explain to someone from the story of how you guys met to the story of where you guys are now and um, and so you guys meet y'all. It wasn't like I guess, you go back to Washington. You guys kind of date long distance for a little bit. Yeah, for about ten months, and then finally after ten months, you just knew this is the girl that it's supposed to be at your church, right we um yeah, dat a long distance, lots of trips back and forth, um um. Thankful that she made the leap to um come to Nashville. And so I drove, I flew to Nashville and we rented a big Penske truck Washington, Washington, excuse me, rented a Pinsky truck and with a trailer and pulled her truck behind Aske truck from Washington State back to Nashville, which to this day is the greatest trip we've had together. That is so cool. So Johnson, you left everything back in Washington, your mom, who you're super close to, your your brother, and uh, it's it's unbelievable you just after ten months. I mean, I guess not only did Ted know that you were supposed to be the one for him, but you probably felt the same way. Yes, definitely wouldn't have made the mood of move if they didn't think that, because and that's what I love about you guys. And I've always told this about y'all, was like, y'all are not only just two cool, perfect people for each other, and it's rare to see two people like that. But Jocelyn is not like an easy person to win over, you know, you know what I mean, Like I'm still working on it. Yeah, Like that's what I've always loved about Johnson is. And I've said this to you about like you're just tenacity and like and and Johnson will come out on the golf course when Ted and I are playing golf, and she she wants to play with us, so we're I mean, and it's pretty rare. And it's it's not this has nothing to do against females because I have a little girl and like I wanted to play golf whatever, but like you know, us guys who got to the golfers are pretty rare. Like I go, I'm going out there to play with someone and his wife, right, But I love playing golf with you guys. And I just love the way that you're so competitive, whether it was that night at the game, or that night at the bar where you where you where Ted walked dried up to you and you were so focused, I mean on a game. It's just so My point is is that you it's pretty good catch on your part there, Ted, for for a girl that's uh got her standard set pretty high. That says a lot about yourself. Are ye? So you moved to Nashville all at this time and I kind of I mentioned that I met Ted of the golf course, but ironically enough, at the time, you guys are like four houses down from where I lived, and where we lived is really kind of off the beaten path for two two people that are getting married in their early thirties and um living out in the middle of the country. And I happened to because I don't do the nine to five UH have to drive to work every day. It wasn't such a big deal for me to live out there because I'm on home that often. What was funny was four houses down was like a conversation on the driving range one day where You're like, so, what road do you live on? And I said Forest Driving You're like, wait, I live on Forest Drive. So four houses down out where you live is maybe you know, you know, a half a mile from each other, but but yeah, we were neighbors and we didn't even realize it. Yeah that's crazy. So you guys get married. And the reason I was telling that story is is because just moving Jocelyn from Washington to the middle of Kingston Springs, Tennessee, is something that I would think two wasn't the easiest deal. But you being an outdoorsy kind of girl and you guys having a passion for kind of the whole, Yeah, it was actually kind of easy because I knew how important the mountains and rural kind of a rural lifestyle was and being outdoors so um really um, aside from proximity to the golf course right to play, it was really by design. I mean we we bought our property and built our house for the reason that I wanted to be able to give her something as close to the Pacific Northwest as possible. And I'll never forget one day being on Brush Greek Road and she turns to me and she goes, oh my gosh, babe, I feel like I'm I feel like I'm at my spot, which was her place, and and I was that just totally completed the moment for me, and I thought, oh my gosh, this is the best decision I've ever made. Um So that's a big part of why we live out here is for that reason, and you guys love it. We have one stoplight in our town and uh we have two restaurants, a met Sekon restaurant which we ate at tonight and a really good uh pizza place I highly recommended shoutout sky king Pizza and Kingston Springs, Tennessee. But um so, throughout my time of getting to know you guys, and this story obviously as you you've heard even come from Ted's mouth, like the love you guys have for each other, it's really special and it's cool as your friend to see that because I'm inspired by that and I think other people are as well. And so, um where this story heads is. I Uh, I kept telling you guys all the time. I always told Ted on the golfers, like when you got how many times that I did? I ask you guys, seriously, when are you guys are gonna have kids? Because y'all are gonna be the great? Because at the time I'd already had pearls. So, um, I just knew that y'all needed a kid, a child in your life, and um, you're like, oh, I don't know. And you guys are so fun when it comes to just picking up and leaving and as going on your hiking trips and just doing stuff together that I could see why probably you're waiting to make it happen. So long story short, We're eating pizza at sky King Pizza, uh, the other restaurant in town, and you tell me how long? How long has this been? Uh, I'm twenty three weeks, so I don't yeh couple of months? Three months? Yeah? One? And I was we were we were at the point where we were pregnant, but you're not really supposed to say anything yet. Oh wait a second, and you could. You just busted out of the show and diner and it's so excited. Any other couples can appreciate this, but I like put her on the spot. I'm like, so can I tell him? And Jake's like, parents yet, Yeah, we haven't even told our parents yet, and she's like, well, I guess you can now, and uh, yes, I told Jake that we were pregnant, and it was pretty I was so excited I started freaking out I mean, it was just it was a cool night. That was a really cool night. I'll never forget you guys telling me that, And I just remember being elated and excited for y'all, for everything that's to come because you are I mean, and this is before we knew you were having a little girl and being a dad of a little girl and being a friend of yours. Ted, I'm really excited to see you with with a little girl. So the reason obviously too, that I had you guys on the show to talk to everyone is it's not just your love for each other's it's this story. It's this journey, I guess what you call it, Like this journey that you guys are on, that you you and and so you tell me you're pregnant, and then it was what a week A week later, I got a text from Taddy's like, hey man, you have time to talk and um, and you filled me in with the news of yeah that Um. A week after Josin we found out we were pregnant. Um, we found out that she had been diagnosed with invasive breast cancer, which is going from the highest high ever finding out about a child too being probably I mean, I can just saying it now. It's hard to just write. It's really but I want you guys to know this, Like it's you walking up today at the Mexican restaurant. I looked at you and like you would you walk by people I'm sure every day that would never even know, right like you? You know, you're so beautiful and you carry yourself in such a positive, happy spirited way. And here you are, like with a baby in your tummy, and as you just said, like I said, and this is hard man like and I hope for people out there listening that And that's why I wanted Ted and Jocelyn on is it's sometimes talking about things that aren't easy to talk about. UM is amazing how not only how people you can also influence other people and educate them as well. As you said, Ted, But but just when I said that, I was like, so you find out a week later that what? And I could tell the minute I asked, like you just kinda it takes you minute to even process it. But but you're living with this every single day, right, And it's just it's really, it's really it's interesting to see how you guys, how you guys handle it. Number One talking about it. But number two, how you did this day? Like just walking up the two of you guys were like, we ate Mexican food. We didn't really talk about it. We didn't and you and if no one knew Johnston's like this cute little blond haired, bubbly like bouncy, a little like energizer bunny you are most of the time. Yes, So you find out you have breast cancer and you're twelve weeks pregnant. Yeah, I think I was, well, I was eight, eight or nine when we found out for more nine weeks pregnant and we found out so a little bit more than a couple of months ago. Yeah, and um, yeah, it was tough. It was really, um kind of unimaginable really that you know, we've we found out we were pregnant a couple of days before our three year anniversary, which was like such a really cool anniversary gift to realize that we were pregnant. And yeah, that's right, and um, yeah, I mean there's just there's so much to take away from this. And I told Jake earlier, I was like, man, there's like so much that I have to say and would want to share. Um, for a woman that's going through this, or a husband that's trying to support his wife. Like I mean, there's just there's so so much to talk about. But yeah, it was it was a lot, and it was a lot to process, and it was a lot to try to try to figure out. Um but um, I guess just just for listeners, like, we're doing great, and I say we because we're in this totally together and you're four weeks through. We're four weeks uh treatments through and into your chemotherapy. So you're so Jocelyn is pregnant and she's doing chemotherapy at the same time. And as you were saying, tonight at dinner, there was someone Dr Phil The other day there was and yeah, he apparently said that I'm a part of this kick ass cancer mom's group on Facebook and you are our Dr Phillis hopefully not because they're not happy with him, but um, he was. He had this whole show about how you can't do chemotherapy one and you're pregnant, and so there's a lot of us in the group that proving him wrong, prove otherwise, and lots of healthy little five year old babies in that group that you know, are all good. And so women in that group that have gone through what you're going through that now have a five year old child and they're all healthy. And and you know, we're four we're four treatments through a total of sixteen treatments. UM. For those that are worried about us and the pregnancy, rest assured that UM lots of research and counsel on the subject, but that at the start of your second trimester, the chemotherapy is actually safe during pregnancy, which is such a blessing that is the case because UM, as you know, the chemotherapy is critical UM to the overall outcome. And UM, so she's a warrior. I was telling a good friend uh today this afternoon that just how strong she is and how inspired I am by her every single day. And UM, she's doing great and her health is great. The doctors are astounded. The babies. Charlie, our little girl, her name is Charlotte Ray And UM, I realized today I've been calling her Charlie and no one even knows her name is Charlotte. But uh, but Charlie is doing great, and UM, we're we're so thankful. UM. So we we have a lot to be thankful. For amongst what otherwise feels feels from the outside like a super tough time, I feel like we've grown so close together, um, and I recognize that this is a chance, this is a time where some couples could grow apart, and I'm so thankful that we've grown together as a part of it. Well, I can tell you as your friend, as I've told you as this before, just watching you guys, as before I knew you were even dealing with any of this, you were inspiring people to me, to anyone that knows you like y'all just have an inspirational kind of vibe that you give off as far as how to how to be in love with someone, how to treat them. And then now you're going through all this and as I mentioned, I mean you said, uh, you know, it's not easy going through what you're going through, but you guys make it seem that way from the outside. I hope you know that as your friend, I mean watching Jocelyn came to a taping of the Real Country Show the other day for like three hours. You sat in there during this taping. You guys came to my filming of the Down to the Honkey Talk video to night at Honkytalk Central. That's why that's one of the reasons why we came where you guys met and Um, it's really just it's it's I hope you all know it. Not only with that said, with the fact that you're on here with microphones up to your face, and I don't think I really realized it until you know, when I asked you, Ted, I said, you, guys, think you'd want to share your story? You for people out there to that that you feel like perhaps would want to know what you're going through. And because I genuinely believe that, I genuinely believe that people want to know and want to if they're going through it or how you're dealing with it. And but at the same time too, it's strong of you to to say yes, to open yourself up to the world out there that we live in and educate them with what you're going through. So how do you feel, Jocelyn, Well, I'm just I'm like a very positive person in general, so just staying positive and not like when my mind starts to go negative. I'm just like, Okay, I switched gears and think positively. Um, and Ted has been fabulous to stay positive with me because I know it's not easy, but like surrounding ourselves with friends and family, and we have our sweet dog and Charlie common which is very helpful. We have a catney Willie Nelson too, so you can who sleeps with me every night. I have two goats named Brooks and Dunn. So do you have a cat named Willie Nelson. I've got a dog named Merle. I got two goats sat Brooks and John. But you justin talked about staying positive and UM. I told Jake earlier. I was like, man, I have so much to say. I'm like trying to organize my thoughts and He's like, come on, man, just making a conversation. But and it's true and it does feel just right. But you know, for anyone out there that's going through something like this or UM, I just can't. I can't stress enough the importance to focus on what is positive? What, what are you thankful for? What are you grateful and for? In that situation, one of the things we really latched on too early on was that we caught it early, which we did. UM. She has a stage two UM. The lymph node was negative. And for those that you know what that means. That's a really good thing. That means it had not spread. Um and uh. But we celebrated this idea that if we had not been pregnant, we never would have found out that she had this because we found this out on our on our first trip to our doctor when we found out she was pregnant. And that now all of a sudden, Charlie wears this permanent badge of honor that she saved her mom's life. And and for literally for a month and a half, that was like this like foundation of positivity for us was that Charlie saved her life. We caught this thing early. And so whatever it is that you're latching onto, it's critically important that you focus on what is that's positive in the situation and not focusing on what you can't control and what's negative. And I think that I think that's so true to life, man, seriously, And maybe that's why you guys inspire me in a way, Like just you sitting there saying that is for what you're going through. True. But I think no matter what you're going through in life, focusing on that positive side of things will always get you through, as opposed to the negative. And I was I think you were going to say something to John. I was just going to say, like, you can focus on there's like all the percentages. It's like there's a ten percent chance it can come back, there's a five percent chance. You know, so there's like all those numbers, and you tended like go to those, but it's like, okay, well, Ted and I were talking in the ginning, Well, hello, that's chance. It's not like that's a huge number. So focus on those numbers, the positive numbers, instead of the negative ones, because that's what that's what I'll get you through. Yeah, And and and in focusing on the idea, and this has just been so profound in both of our lives, is just realizing that really not in control. So you can latch onto the tim per cent chance, but then what are you gonna do with that? There's nothing, nothing that you can do from there. Um, what if you think of think about it this way too, What if someone gave you odds or the chances and percentages that we're talking about numbers? What is like the way they give you in them about cancer? Right? Like, what if someone said give you, hey, here's the percentage head of you gonna go out on Broadway tonight with your buddy and meet a woman that you're going to live the rest of your life with and have a child, and she's gonna go through what you're going through now. And someone told you that was gonna happen you, that you that you would right. So forget the percentages, man, forget the just live life like take the take the chance to appreciate it and and and and make the most of it. And I think that's what I know. It's hard to talk about this and even the word cancer, but like I hope you guys know that you're you're so special. You're special people. I'm lucky to be your friend and I'm and I feel fortunate that you all have included me in your lives what you have. But uh for you to take the time and talk about this tonight and and share your story with so many people that you don't know, that don't know you. But I feel I find can still find inspiration from you. I mean, I admire you guys a lot, appreciate that what um is there anything that you know? Y'all? You said it very well to it, but maybe you Jocelyn, that you wanted to share with any woman out there that's going through what you're going through or might just be pregnant and and and having scared thoughts about you know, I don't know, you're just you're a special woman. I'd like to hear your thoughts before we get out of here. Um, I definitely just say that, like I don't know, like I chalked my little bump up to be pregnancy because I mean I've never been pregnant before, so I had no idea. But I think definitely like if there's something different, like go get it checked out. Um there's I've seen so many younger girls now that have been diagnosed like in their early twenties, which is crazy to me because they don't do like mamograms until you're forty or something. So it's just it blows my mind. And I kind of want to get that awareness out there that they're younger and younger women and right do you hear that a lot too? Doctors say like if your your body is truthful to you, like if your body is telling you something or you notice something that's not not right, didn't get it checked out, Like, don't don't just sit around and wait, NA say T yeah, Well I was just gonna say, um So, I just wanted to share just one last one nugget and we'll get out of here. But that, UM, and I think it's important to kind of pull this thing full circle. Is that, UM, And I told you this, UM a while, a couple of weeks ago when we were together. That it's made me appreciate to that, like, everybody has stuff going on in their life, like we we spent several months in our bubble right after the diagnosis trying to comprehend, making decisions around UH surgeries and decisions related to treatment, and we were surrounded by all these people that knew exactly what was going on in our life. You had all the attention, all the sympathy. Everything that like was comforting in that moment. And I made this decision to go on a trip to Chicago for a day trip. And Jocelyn had encouraged me to go and thought, hey, it'll be really good for you to get out, and I had not. I had not worked almost in a month at this point, and um, so I made this decision I was going to go to Chicago. And I get to the Nashville airport and I walked into the airport, and in that moment, I realized there was not one single person around me. They had any idea what was going on in my life. Nothing, nothing. Everybody was in their own world and so and so should they be. You know, no one knew what was going on. And I felt so uncomfortable in that moment, and I was having this self pity that no one knew what I was going through and that was broken and that I needed this support. And so I found myself in wine buying a water in a magazine at one of the stores, and there was this woman in front of me and she was she was trying to pay, and she was fumbling for some loose change, and I was having this total selfish moment where I thought, oh, man, come on, lady, like that she was taking a while to pay, and like house timing, how many times we roll in that selfish moment, we're in a hurry. And then I stopped myself and it was such a profound moment that has carried with me is that I realized, here, no one knows what's going on in my life, and I'm broken, But I don't know what's going on in her life. Maybe she's fumbling for change because she's her son got diagnosed or something, or maybe she's having challenges with her husband, or maybe she lost a loved one or who knows, and and it just like totally sobered me in the moment, and thought, we need to be nicer to people, like we need to be respectful to one another, and that if our culture and our society and our country and our world could be a little bit more respectful and a little bit more understanding that other people have stuff going on. And it was such a huge takeaway from me, and his literally like changed in my life since that day and just tried to make me more aware of other people that are around me. So my point is is that amongst what feels like an other word otherwise really hard time, there's so many little little nuggets that have come from it. And our relationship as a married couple has come closer together as a result. And yes, we're fighting something hard, but we're more self aware of our surroundings and our friends and our family and and so again it goes back to like focusing on all these positive things that you can identify amongst a really hard time. Yeah, that's really well said. I mean I was just sitting here and all of listening and you're talking. You're right, man. I told you when we started talking about a little bit about that a few weeks back. How I felt when I came home from Las Vegas on October two. It was it was really weird being there October one last year when obviously that tragic event happened and tons of people lost their lives. And I got home that was a Sunday night, October one when that happened, and I got home on Monday, and that night was Erica's birthday, my girlfriend and um. I was driving down towards where we were having our party to surprise her, and the same sort of thing. I remember looking over at Buffalo Wild Wings and all these people are in the parking lot with their jerseys on, walking inside because it was Monday night. Football is like are you ready for alsome football? And there's this part of me driving on the road that thought to myself, like, how can these people know that last night in Las Vegas? Like they didn't know that I was going through that, like that I was there, and as you said, nor should they, Like why why should they know? But there was a huge part of me that just felt like, how can these people, why can Monday night football not just happen tonight? Can they not just take a break and people just for a moment, respect the fact that this happened. But at the end of the day, as you said it, life goes on, Like in life happens, and you have to make the most of it while you're here, and and and and be kind to people and do the right thing and see the bright side of the day. And um, the way you said that said it was so well said and so sums up exactly what this whole podcast I hope has done for people this first season that I've done. And I think you guys are a great way for me to to sum it up this first season before I go into the second season. I told you that earlier and how you said it. I hope everyone listening really as almost as speechless as I am the way you said that, because it's really profound. Not only I mean I wish you had a bigger platform than just me and the Good Company to say what you just said. I hope people take what you said and spread it through their lives and their friends and families, just um, because it's not easy sometimes to put into words what we should do as a as a world, as a country, um, in order to live life in a more positive manner. And uh, I try to do it each every other week on this this podcast. And you just did it in about a minute and a half long little dissertation and it was just dude, it's really well set. And again I appreciate it's weird. I'm sure to sit here with your buddy as it is for me to stay here with you guys, and we're having a chat with Mike's in our face. But it really felt real and honest to me. And I'm glad you guys did it. And I hope everyone out there kind of take something away from this and has had the pleasure of meeting Ted and Jocelyn tonight. And as you go through this journey, man, we're going to continue to. Uh. I know everyone out there listening, it's gonna be sending prayers for you guys, and I I already do, but I'm gonna continue to. And I'm really excited for y'all. I'm excited to meet Charlie. This the Badge of Honor where for saving saving your life? Jocelyn. Yeah, she sure did so. When when's the due date? January January five, Wintertime Baby, Winter Time by my mom was January one. She was a new New Year's baby, so you never know. You could be early, could be late. She came at midnight twelve oh one on so ever, and I love your mom, so shout out Mitzio and from from Joscelyn Limmer. She just shouted out. She was a mom reference right there. This has been definitely I mean, honestly, if you're listening, as you know, this has probably gone on a little longer than what usual, but um, and it seemed to be a little bit more somber than than usual podcast. But this is probably the most special one that I've ever been a part of to talk to you all and hear your story and appreciate you being so honest and open and vulnerable for everybody listening. And um, we appreciate you guys, y'all. I'll say bye to Ted and Jocelyn. Wish them uh incredible luck on their journey together. I know that you guys will be great and um, you inspired me as I said, so you are good company Ted and Jocelyn, which is a perfect, perfect people for this for this show. I love you guys, thanks for listening, and um look forward to seeing y'all in a couple of weeks when I come back with Season two with a lot of new topics and fun things to talk about. It's been fun. Whoa play Yeah,

Hey, this is Jake going and this is Good Company. Welcome to Good Company, a podcast where we talk about everything under the sun, friends, good times, and company. Now here's your host. What's up, my friends, Jake. I am back with another episode of Good Company podcast. Uh with Jake, that's me and I am coming at you guys from what sounds like a very hollow room. It's my bar in Kingston Springs, Tennessee. Um, this is the first podcast that I have done from this establishment here in Kingston Springs. And uh, I'm sitting on a very comfortable couch staring across at a couple of great friends of mine that happened to be a Kingston Springs residents as well. And uh, this is gonna be a comfy conversation with two great friends of mine. You guys, say hello to Ted and Joscelyn Limmer. How are you guys doing? Doing well? Very good? Thank you? I can tell see you gotta You're gonna have to seriously loosen up. If if this is how it's gonna be, Jocelyn already told me drinks. That doesn't help. Jocelyn, why can't you drink because I'm pregnant little Charlie. She's got a little Charlie, she's got a little girl in the belly, and so she's not drinking. Although Ted, her wonderful husband, does enjoy a beer from time to time, and he decided, out of all the beers that I have in this bar, Ted decided to go with a honky Tonk Brew. Honky Tonk Brew. It's a local Nashville ale, that's right. Which one is that? Is that? The sour the sour cherry cherry Burliner? Right on? Well, I'm glad you enjoy that. Ted, I'm actually drinking a um banana bread Wells Banana bread Logger and myself right now. See, this is actually another first for me on the podcast. I've never really drank before while doing this podcast. Interesting. Then, yeah, well this is my first beer, so I think I think we're good on that. But uh, I'm really excited to tell everybody that's listening today, um, the beautiful story of my friends Ted and Jocelyn and Uh. As you know, I've had so many different people on this show from all different walks of life, and the main purpose each time is to talk with people that I genuinely care about that are friends of mine that have interesting stories to tell. And I've never really had an agenda with this whole show called good Company. I guess the real agenda is to be with good people and and share stories. And Ted and Jocelyn have one of the coolest stories of anyone that I know. So I wanted to kind of start first Ted and Johnson. You guys have been married now for how long? Three years? Three years? I met Ted and Jocelyn um out at the golf club um where we are both members that we play some golf, and Ted is known by a lot of us at the golf course as tour pants Ted. Why why do people call? Why do people call? Why do people call you? Tour panted? I like to wear pants on the golf course. It's very rare to see Ted in a pair of shorts on the golf course. He's always wearing pants, so he gets, you know, the uh, the moniker of tour pants Ted, Ted, you are wearing a really nice pair of pants tonight. Thank you appreciate that. Yeah, you can tell already that Ted. Ted and Johnson are a little reserved right now. They're they're trying to figure this out. They're like they've been here to the bar before, but they've never established this thing where I hand them a microphone and tell them that they're gonna have to tell their story. And speaking of that story, it's amazing. You guys have been married for three years. You said three and a half years. You met on Broadway in Nashville, Tennessee. Is this a true Is this a true statement? True statement? I love this story of Ted and Jocelyn together because you guys, as I've told you a million times over, they're just the perfect couple. You guys, You guys really set an example for anyone, not not only myself but anybody that we were eating uh Mexican food tonight and you were referencing someone you were talking to and she said to you, for just meeting you, she felt like you guys were warm friends and had known each other for a long time, and the love that you guys have for each other was like infectious and contagious, and uh it is that's the truth. And you were saying that tonight, telling me as if I didn't already know that, And that was honestly why I've always wanted to have you guys on here and talk with you. Um Number one just for the love you guys have for each other and what it's like to be a couple that's building a family, as you heard Jocelyn say that you got a baby in the oven. But so we're back to you guys meeting because this this is all we're moving way fast down the road. You guys met on Broadway in Nashville, Tennessee. How did this happen? To Ted? Alright, Well, so I'll give you my version of the story, and it'll be interesting to hear her version of the story. Um, but I have a good friend named Oliver, and uh he was assistant pro at the Golf Club of Tennessee, and he invited me to go out downtown with him one night. He had some friends in town from Florida and it was a bachelorette party. I was single at the time. He's like, hey, man, you want to go downtown. I'm like, sure, single, Why would I not want to go downtown with you and a bachette party? So so I go downtown. We quickly, about thirty minutes into the evening, realized that this group was like completely obnoxious and we really didn't want to be there, and uh so we ended up at honky Tonk Central. Been there, I've been there, yeah right. And so about an hour into being a honky Tonk Central, I had noticed this girl sitting at the bar and I had just, i mean been basically checking her out for like five minutes and just get courage to like, yeah, what was weird? Was I was your pickup line? Well? I was. I'm jumping ahead, but this is such a great story. Yeah, yeah, slow down. So I like swirl that I knew her from somewhere. I was just convinced that I knew her from somewhere, and I was just really smit with her from the minute I saw her. And so about that time, my buddy Oliver comes walking up to me, and for all those guys listening, you can appreciate your buddy comes up two single guys. You're like, all right, man, let's get out of here. This is not fun. Let's leave. And I was like, I don't know, man, there's this cute girl at the bar. And he kind of looked at me like, come on, man, let's get out of here. And I'm like, no, man, I really need to go to I really need to go talk to this girl. And so I go walking across the bar, and as a side notes, like that moment where you realize that your life is like this, choose your own adventure book where you know that's exactly what life is. Life is what you make it. Ted there you go, So you're getting that plug in there. I like that. So we could have left like just as easily left. So I walk across the bar and I walk up to her, and I noticed that she had this white, uh like rubber bracelet on like the Lance Armstrong Lived Strong bracelets, and I had the same pacelet on, and I thought, oh my gosh, she goes to my church because my church had given out these bracelets. So all this is leading up to I walk up to her and I said, Hey, I'm really sorry to bother you, but you go to my church which is by the way, which is by the way, like such a I've never I don't have any friends that have ever walked up Joe and said do you go to my church? Not to mention at Honky Talk Central like midnight. So I walked up your and I said, so do you go to my church? And she looks at me with one eye on a TV screen and one eye looking at me like so annoyed, like what, like, what what do you mean? And I said, oh, I thought you might go to cross Point in my church. And uh So meanwhile, now to realize that her mom was sitting with her and they were on a girl's trip together. I realized from you guys, you and your mom, You guys are from Seattle, Washington, Seattle, Washington, and you happen to be at Honky Talk Central at this point, just sitting there with your mom watching the Washington Huskies play. We were I was actually watching our rivals, the Washington State Sugars, and I was there was two minutes left and they were playing San Diego State, and the last thing you wanted at this time rooting against them, and I was they were about to lose. And I mean, like the game, that's the game all good Husky fans root against whoever the whoever their rival the Cougars are playing. So so at this point you're dialed into this game. Your mom sitting there next to you, guys, maybe crushing a beer too and tequila tequila. And here comes this guy and says, hey, I don't want to bother you, but do you go to my church? When being from the Washington you know, Pacific Northwest, like we go to we gone to church, but like it's not as big as a thing as it is in the South, and it's clearly not a pickup line. Well we kind of thought it was at first, because I mean, you are in the South, and my mom was like, oh, you just sit on down with us. Here. Of course, mom meets a guy who says, uh, do you go to my church? She's like, this is not like this guy. Yeah. So then just kind of the it was weird. I mean, they're not weird, but like the rest was history. We sat there and hung out and talked and um, sounds cheesy, but we were like literally holding hands that night walking down Broadway. And what's awesome is if my buddy Oliver was here right now, my buddy Oliver later that night, it's like I'm wing man in it with her mom. Man, Like I'm standing up. This is the greatest story. I love this, not only okay. So that's what's beautiful about y'all is it's not just your story that I know of you. It's everything that that you could explain to someone from the story of how you guys met to the story of where you guys are now and um, and so you guys meet y'all. It wasn't like I guess, you go back to Washington. You guys kind of date long distance for a little bit. Yeah, for about ten months, and then finally after ten months, you just knew this is the girl that it's supposed to be at your church, right we um yeah, dat a long distance, lots of trips back and forth, um um. Thankful that she made the leap to um come to Nashville. And so I drove, I flew to Nashville and we rented a big Penske truck Washington, Washington, excuse me, rented a Pinsky truck and with a trailer and pulled her truck behind Aske truck from Washington State back to Nashville, which to this day is the greatest trip we've had together. That is so cool. So Johnson, you left everything back in Washington, your mom, who you're super close to, your your brother, and uh, it's it's unbelievable you just after ten months. I mean, I guess not only did Ted know that you were supposed to be the one for him, but you probably felt the same way. Yes, definitely wouldn't have made the mood of move if they didn't think that, because and that's what I love about you guys. And I've always told this about y'all, was like, y'all are not only just two cool, perfect people for each other, and it's rare to see two people like that. But Jocelyn is not like an easy person to win over, you know, you know what I mean, Like I'm still working on it. Yeah, Like that's what I've always loved about Johnson is. And I've said this to you about like you're just tenacity and like and and Johnson will come out on the golf course when Ted and I are playing golf, and she she wants to play with us, so we're I mean, and it's pretty rare. And it's it's not this has nothing to do against females because I have a little girl and like I wanted to play golf whatever, but like you know, us guys who got to the golfers are pretty rare. Like I go, I'm going out there to play with someone and his wife, right, But I love playing golf with you guys. And I just love the way that you're so competitive, whether it was that night at the game, or that night at the bar where you where you where Ted walked dried up to you and you were so focused, I mean on a game. It's just so My point is is that you it's pretty good catch on your part there, Ted, for for a girl that's uh got her standard set pretty high. That says a lot about yourself. Are ye? So you moved to Nashville all at this time and I kind of I mentioned that I met Ted of the golf course, but ironically enough, at the time, you guys are like four houses down from where I lived, and where we lived is really kind of off the beaten path for two two people that are getting married in their early thirties and um living out in the middle of the country. And I happened to because I don't do the nine to five UH have to drive to work every day. It wasn't such a big deal for me to live out there because I'm on home that often. What was funny was four houses down was like a conversation on the driving range one day where You're like, so, what road do you live on? And I said Forest Driving You're like, wait, I live on Forest Drive. So four houses down out where you live is maybe you know, you know, a half a mile from each other, but but yeah, we were neighbors and we didn't even realize it. Yeah that's crazy. So you guys get married. And the reason I was telling that story is is because just moving Jocelyn from Washington to the middle of Kingston Springs, Tennessee, is something that I would think two wasn't the easiest deal. But you being an outdoorsy kind of girl and you guys having a passion for kind of the whole, Yeah, it was actually kind of easy because I knew how important the mountains and rural kind of a rural lifestyle was and being outdoors so um really um, aside from proximity to the golf course right to play, it was really by design. I mean we we bought our property and built our house for the reason that I wanted to be able to give her something as close to the Pacific Northwest as possible. And I'll never forget one day being on Brush Greek Road and she turns to me and she goes, oh my gosh, babe, I feel like I'm I feel like I'm at my spot, which was her place, and and I was that just totally completed the moment for me, and I thought, oh my gosh, this is the best decision I've ever made. Um So that's a big part of why we live out here is for that reason, and you guys love it. We have one stoplight in our town and uh we have two restaurants, a met Sekon restaurant which we ate at tonight and a really good uh pizza place I highly recommended shoutout sky king Pizza and Kingston Springs, Tennessee. But um so, throughout my time of getting to know you guys, and this story obviously as you you've heard even come from Ted's mouth, like the love you guys have for each other, it's really special and it's cool as your friend to see that because I'm inspired by that and I think other people are as well. And so, um where this story heads is. I Uh, I kept telling you guys all the time. I always told Ted on the golfers, like when you got how many times that I did? I ask you guys, seriously, when are you guys are gonna have kids? Because y'all are gonna be the great? Because at the time I'd already had pearls. So, um, I just knew that y'all needed a kid, a child in your life, and um, you're like, oh, I don't know. And you guys are so fun when it comes to just picking up and leaving and as going on your hiking trips and just doing stuff together that I could see why probably you're waiting to make it happen. So long story short, We're eating pizza at sky King Pizza, uh, the other restaurant in town, and you tell me how long? How long has this been? Uh, I'm twenty three weeks, so I don't yeh couple of months? Three months? Yeah? One? And I was we were we were at the point where we were pregnant, but you're not really supposed to say anything yet. Oh wait a second, and you could. You just busted out of the show and diner and it's so excited. Any other couples can appreciate this, but I like put her on the spot. I'm like, so can I tell him? And Jake's like, parents yet, Yeah, we haven't even told our parents yet, and she's like, well, I guess you can now, and uh, yes, I told Jake that we were pregnant, and it was pretty I was so excited I started freaking out I mean, it was just it was a cool night. That was a really cool night. I'll never forget you guys telling me that, And I just remember being elated and excited for y'all, for everything that's to come because you are I mean, and this is before we knew you were having a little girl and being a dad of a little girl and being a friend of yours. Ted, I'm really excited to see you with with a little girl. So the reason obviously too, that I had you guys on the show to talk to everyone is it's not just your love for each other's it's this story. It's this journey, I guess what you call it, Like this journey that you guys are on, that you you and and so you tell me you're pregnant, and then it was what a week A week later, I got a text from Taddy's like, hey man, you have time to talk and um, and you filled me in with the news of yeah that Um. A week after Josin we found out we were pregnant. Um, we found out that she had been diagnosed with invasive breast cancer, which is going from the highest high ever finding out about a child too being probably I mean, I can just saying it now. It's hard to just write. It's really but I want you guys to know this, Like it's you walking up today at the Mexican restaurant. I looked at you and like you would you walk by people I'm sure every day that would never even know, right like you? You know, you're so beautiful and you carry yourself in such a positive, happy spirited way. And here you are, like with a baby in your tummy, and as you just said, like I said, and this is hard man like and I hope for people out there listening that And that's why I wanted Ted and Jocelyn on is it's sometimes talking about things that aren't easy to talk about. UM is amazing how not only how people you can also influence other people and educate them as well. As you said, Ted, But but just when I said that, I was like, so you find out a week later that what? And I could tell the minute I asked, like you just kinda it takes you minute to even process it. But but you're living with this every single day, right, And it's just it's really, it's really it's interesting to see how you guys, how you guys handle it. Number One talking about it. But number two, how you did this day? Like just walking up the two of you guys were like, we ate Mexican food. We didn't really talk about it. We didn't and you and if no one knew Johnston's like this cute little blond haired, bubbly like bouncy, a little like energizer bunny you are most of the time. Yes, So you find out you have breast cancer and you're twelve weeks pregnant. Yeah, I think I was, well, I was eight, eight or nine when we found out for more nine weeks pregnant and we found out so a little bit more than a couple of months ago. Yeah, and um, yeah, it was tough. It was really, um kind of unimaginable really that you know, we've we found out we were pregnant a couple of days before our three year anniversary, which was like such a really cool anniversary gift to realize that we were pregnant. And yeah, that's right, and um, yeah, I mean there's just there's so much to take away from this. And I told Jake earlier, I was like, man, there's like so much that I have to say and would want to share. Um, for a woman that's going through this, or a husband that's trying to support his wife. Like I mean, there's just there's so so much to talk about. But yeah, it was it was a lot, and it was a lot to process, and it was a lot to try to try to figure out. Um but um, I guess just just for listeners, like, we're doing great, and I say we because we're in this totally together and you're four weeks through. We're four weeks uh treatments through and into your chemotherapy. So you're so Jocelyn is pregnant and she's doing chemotherapy at the same time. And as you were saying, tonight at dinner, there was someone Dr Phil The other day there was and yeah, he apparently said that I'm a part of this kick ass cancer mom's group on Facebook and you are our Dr Phillis hopefully not because they're not happy with him, but um, he was. He had this whole show about how you can't do chemotherapy one and you're pregnant, and so there's a lot of us in the group that proving him wrong, prove otherwise, and lots of healthy little five year old babies in that group that you know, are all good. And so women in that group that have gone through what you're going through that now have a five year old child and they're all healthy. And and you know, we're four we're four treatments through a total of sixteen treatments. UM. For those that are worried about us and the pregnancy, rest assured that UM lots of research and counsel on the subject, but that at the start of your second trimester, the chemotherapy is actually safe during pregnancy, which is such a blessing that is the case because UM, as you know, the chemotherapy is critical UM to the overall outcome. And UM, so she's a warrior. I was telling a good friend uh today this afternoon that just how strong she is and how inspired I am by her every single day. And UM, she's doing great and her health is great. The doctors are astounded. The babies. Charlie, our little girl, her name is Charlotte Ray And UM, I realized today I've been calling her Charlie and no one even knows her name is Charlotte. But uh, but Charlie is doing great, and UM, we're we're so thankful. UM. So we we have a lot to be thankful. For amongst what otherwise feels feels from the outside like a super tough time, I feel like we've grown so close together, um, and I recognize that this is a chance, this is a time where some couples could grow apart, and I'm so thankful that we've grown together as a part of it. Well, I can tell you as your friend, as I've told you as this before, just watching you guys, as before I knew you were even dealing with any of this, you were inspiring people to me, to anyone that knows you like y'all just have an inspirational kind of vibe that you give off as far as how to how to be in love with someone, how to treat them. And then now you're going through all this and as I mentioned, I mean you said, uh, you know, it's not easy going through what you're going through, but you guys make it seem that way from the outside. I hope you know that as your friend, I mean watching Jocelyn came to a taping of the Real Country Show the other day for like three hours. You sat in there during this taping. You guys came to my filming of the Down to the Honkey Talk video to night at Honkytalk Central. That's why that's one of the reasons why we came where you guys met and Um, it's really just it's it's I hope you all know it. Not only with that said, with the fact that you're on here with microphones up to your face, and I don't think I really realized it until you know, when I asked you, Ted, I said, you, guys, think you'd want to share your story? You for people out there to that that you feel like perhaps would want to know what you're going through. And because I genuinely believe that, I genuinely believe that people want to know and want to if they're going through it or how you're dealing with it. And but at the same time too, it's strong of you to to say yes, to open yourself up to the world out there that we live in and educate them with what you're going through. So how do you feel, Jocelyn, Well, I'm just I'm like a very positive person in general, so just staying positive and not like when my mind starts to go negative. I'm just like, Okay, I switched gears and think positively. Um, and Ted has been fabulous to stay positive with me because I know it's not easy, but like surrounding ourselves with friends and family, and we have our sweet dog and Charlie common which is very helpful. We have a catney Willie Nelson too, so you can who sleeps with me every night. I have two goats named Brooks and Dunn. So do you have a cat named Willie Nelson. I've got a dog named Merle. I got two goats sat Brooks and John. But you justin talked about staying positive and UM. I told Jake earlier. I was like, man, I have so much to say. I'm like trying to organize my thoughts and He's like, come on, man, just making a conversation. But and it's true and it does feel just right. But you know, for anyone out there that's going through something like this or UM, I just can't. I can't stress enough the importance to focus on what is positive? What, what are you thankful for? What are you grateful and for? In that situation, one of the things we really latched on too early on was that we caught it early, which we did. UM. She has a stage two UM. The lymph node was negative. And for those that you know what that means. That's a really good thing. That means it had not spread. Um and uh. But we celebrated this idea that if we had not been pregnant, we never would have found out that she had this because we found this out on our on our first trip to our doctor when we found out she was pregnant. And that now all of a sudden, Charlie wears this permanent badge of honor that she saved her mom's life. And and for literally for a month and a half, that was like this like foundation of positivity for us was that Charlie saved her life. We caught this thing early. And so whatever it is that you're latching onto, it's critically important that you focus on what is that's positive in the situation and not focusing on what you can't control and what's negative. And I think that I think that's so true to life, man, seriously, And maybe that's why you guys inspire me in a way, Like just you sitting there saying that is for what you're going through. True. But I think no matter what you're going through in life, focusing on that positive side of things will always get you through, as opposed to the negative. And I was I think you were going to say something to John. I was just going to say, like, you can focus on there's like all the percentages. It's like there's a ten percent chance it can come back, there's a five percent chance. You know, so there's like all those numbers, and you tended like go to those, but it's like, okay, well, Ted and I were talking in the ginning, Well, hello, that's chance. It's not like that's a huge number. So focus on those numbers, the positive numbers, instead of the negative ones, because that's what that's what I'll get you through. Yeah, And and and in focusing on the idea, and this has just been so profound in both of our lives, is just realizing that really not in control. So you can latch onto the tim per cent chance, but then what are you gonna do with that? There's nothing, nothing that you can do from there. Um, what if you think of think about it this way too, What if someone gave you odds or the chances and percentages that we're talking about numbers? What is like the way they give you in them about cancer? Right? Like, what if someone said give you, hey, here's the percentage head of you gonna go out on Broadway tonight with your buddy and meet a woman that you're going to live the rest of your life with and have a child, and she's gonna go through what you're going through now. And someone told you that was gonna happen you, that you that you would right. So forget the percentages, man, forget the just live life like take the take the chance to appreciate it and and and and make the most of it. And I think that's what I know. It's hard to talk about this and even the word cancer, but like I hope you guys know that you're you're so special. You're special people. I'm lucky to be your friend and I'm and I feel fortunate that you all have included me in your lives what you have. But uh for you to take the time and talk about this tonight and and share your story with so many people that you don't know, that don't know you. But I feel I find can still find inspiration from you. I mean, I admire you guys a lot, appreciate that what um is there anything that you know? Y'all? You said it very well to it, but maybe you Jocelyn, that you wanted to share with any woman out there that's going through what you're going through or might just be pregnant and and and having scared thoughts about you know, I don't know, you're just you're a special woman. I'd like to hear your thoughts before we get out of here. Um, I definitely just say that, like I don't know, like I chalked my little bump up to be pregnancy because I mean I've never been pregnant before, so I had no idea. But I think definitely like if there's something different, like go get it checked out. Um there's I've seen so many younger girls now that have been diagnosed like in their early twenties, which is crazy to me because they don't do like mamograms until you're forty or something. So it's just it blows my mind. And I kind of want to get that awareness out there that they're younger and younger women and right do you hear that a lot too? Doctors say like if your your body is truthful to you, like if your body is telling you something or you notice something that's not not right, didn't get it checked out, Like, don't don't just sit around and wait, NA say T yeah, Well I was just gonna say, um So, I just wanted to share just one last one nugget and we'll get out of here. But that, UM, and I think it's important to kind of pull this thing full circle. Is that, UM, And I told you this, UM a while, a couple of weeks ago when we were together. That it's made me appreciate to that, like, everybody has stuff going on in their life, like we we spent several months in our bubble right after the diagnosis trying to comprehend, making decisions around UH surgeries and decisions related to treatment, and we were surrounded by all these people that knew exactly what was going on in our life. You had all the attention, all the sympathy. Everything that like was comforting in that moment. And I made this decision to go on a trip to Chicago for a day trip. And Jocelyn had encouraged me to go and thought, hey, it'll be really good for you to get out, and I had not. I had not worked almost in a month at this point, and um, so I made this decision I was going to go to Chicago. And I get to the Nashville airport and I walked into the airport, and in that moment, I realized there was not one single person around me. They had any idea what was going on in my life. Nothing, nothing. Everybody was in their own world and so and so should they be. You know, no one knew what was going on. And I felt so uncomfortable in that moment, and I was having this self pity that no one knew what I was going through and that was broken and that I needed this support. And so I found myself in wine buying a water in a magazine at one of the stores, and there was this woman in front of me and she was she was trying to pay, and she was fumbling for some loose change, and I was having this total selfish moment where I thought, oh, man, come on, lady, like that she was taking a while to pay, and like house timing, how many times we roll in that selfish moment, we're in a hurry. And then I stopped myself and it was such a profound moment that has carried with me is that I realized, here, no one knows what's going on in my life, and I'm broken, But I don't know what's going on in her life. Maybe she's fumbling for change because she's her son got diagnosed or something, or maybe she's having challenges with her husband, or maybe she lost a loved one or who knows, and and it just like totally sobered me in the moment, and thought, we need to be nicer to people, like we need to be respectful to one another, and that if our culture and our society and our country and our world could be a little bit more respectful and a little bit more understanding that other people have stuff going on. And it was such a huge takeaway from me, and his literally like changed in my life since that day and just tried to make me more aware of other people that are around me. So my point is is that amongst what feels like an other word otherwise really hard time, there's so many little little nuggets that have come from it. And our relationship as a married couple has come closer together as a result. And yes, we're fighting something hard, but we're more self aware of our surroundings and our friends and our family and and so again it goes back to like focusing on all these positive things that you can identify amongst a really hard time. Yeah, that's really well said. I mean I was just sitting here and all of listening and you're talking. You're right, man. I told you when we started talking about a little bit about that a few weeks back. How I felt when I came home from Las Vegas on October two. It was it was really weird being there October one last year when obviously that tragic event happened and tons of people lost their lives. And I got home that was a Sunday night, October one when that happened, and I got home on Monday, and that night was Erica's birthday, my girlfriend and um. I was driving down towards where we were having our party to surprise her, and the same sort of thing. I remember looking over at Buffalo Wild Wings and all these people are in the parking lot with their jerseys on, walking inside because it was Monday night. Football is like are you ready for alsome football? And there's this part of me driving on the road that thought to myself, like, how can these people know that last night in Las Vegas? Like they didn't know that I was going through that, like that I was there, and as you said, nor should they, Like why why should they know? But there was a huge part of me that just felt like, how can these people, why can Monday night football not just happen tonight? Can they not just take a break and people just for a moment, respect the fact that this happened. But at the end of the day, as you said it, life goes on, Like in life happens, and you have to make the most of it while you're here, and and and and be kind to people and do the right thing and see the bright side of the day. And um, the way you said that said it was so well said and so sums up exactly what this whole podcast I hope has done for people this first season that I've done. And I think you guys are a great way for me to to sum it up this first season before I go into the second season. I told you that earlier and how you said it. I hope everyone listening really as almost as speechless as I am the way you said that, because it's really profound. Not only I mean I wish you had a bigger platform than just me and the Good Company to say what you just said. I hope people take what you said and spread it through their lives and their friends and families, just um, because it's not easy sometimes to put into words what we should do as a as a world, as a country, um, in order to live life in a more positive manner. And uh, I try to do it each every other week on this this podcast. And you just did it in about a minute and a half long little dissertation and it was just dude, it's really well set. And again I appreciate it's weird. I'm sure to sit here with your buddy as it is for me to stay here with you guys, and we're having a chat with Mike's in our face. But it really felt real and honest to me. And I'm glad you guys did it. And I hope everyone out there kind of take something away from this and has had the pleasure of meeting Ted and Jocelyn tonight. And as you go through this journey, man, we're going to continue to. Uh. I know everyone out there listening, it's gonna be sending prayers for you guys, and I I already do, but I'm gonna continue to. And I'm really excited for y'all. I'm excited to meet Charlie. This the Badge of Honor where for saving saving your life? Jocelyn. Yeah, she sure did so. When when's the due date? January January five, Wintertime Baby, Winter Time by my mom was January one. She was a new New Year's baby, so you never know. You could be early, could be late. She came at midnight twelve oh one on so ever, and I love your mom, so shout out Mitzio and from from Joscelyn Limmer. She just shouted out. She was a mom reference right there. This has been definitely I mean, honestly, if you're listening, as you know, this has probably gone on a little longer than what usual, but um, and it seemed to be a little bit more somber than than usual podcast. But this is probably the most special one that I've ever been a part of to talk to you all and hear your story and appreciate you being so honest and open and vulnerable for everybody listening. And um, we appreciate you guys, y'all. I'll say bye to Ted and Jocelyn. Wish them uh incredible luck on their journey together. I know that you guys will be great and um, you inspired me as I said, so you are good company Ted and Jocelyn, which is a perfect, perfect people for this for this show. I love you guys, thanks for listening, and um look forward to seeing y'all in a couple of weeks when I come back with Season two with a lot of new topics and fun things to talk about. It's been fun. Whoa play Yeah,