Daniel with a fair touchdown. Introducing Going Along with Chase Daniel, Daniel throws Touchdown, a brand new podcast from the New Orleans Saints. Joan Chase Is He sits down with eight former New Orleans scenes quarterbacks, dealing into their careers and catching up on their lives today, just as only an NFL quarterback can.

Daniel with a fair touchdown. Introducing Going Along with Chase Daniel, Daniel throws Touchdown, a brand new podcast from the New Orleans Saints. Joan Chase Is He sits down with eight former New Orleans scenes quarterbacks, dealing into their careers and catching up on their lives today, just as only an NFL quarterback can.

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First of all, it's Breece with an ass, not Brie. I never get mistaken for Chase Daniel because about two inches taller than him.

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Going long with Chase Daniel.

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Welcome back to another episode of Going Along with Chase Daniel, a Saints podcast, and today you're joined by none other than Jim Everett, the living legend.

Welcome back to another episode of Going Along with Chase Daniel, a Saints podcast, and today you're joined by none other than Jim Everett, the living legend.

Man, huge fan of yours.

Man, huge fan of yours.

How you doing they, Chase good Man, We're out in Cali together. You know, we're down here at the Saints camp and they're enjoying some of this great weather that we have here. Because I know you get in New Orleans at this time of the year and you're kind of sweating a little bit.

How you doing they, Chase good Man, We're out in Cali together. You know, we're down here at the Saints camp and they're enjoying some of this great weather that we have here. Because I know you get in New Orleans at this time of the year and you're kind of sweating a little bit.

Yeah, it's it is quite hot. I'm in San Diego, you're up in Orange County area. What have you seen so far from the team? I just want to check in with you right now. I mean, this is this your first day there. Have you been there a while? What are you looking forward today?

Yeah, it's it is quite hot. I'm in San Diego, you're up in Orange County area. What have you seen so far from the team? I just want to check in with you right now. I mean, this is this your first day there. Have you been there a while? What are you looking forward today?

So I haven't had a chance to, you know, give all the leak out on Rattler or anything like that where you had check things out. I know that I really wanted to come down here and check out the forty nine Ors scrimmage, but I know they had to back out because of injuries, so you know, yeah, that's the way it goes. I think it's a little different than when we were playing Chase, you know, with a reddal to day.

So I haven't had a chance to, you know, give all the leak out on Rattler or anything like that where you had check things out. I know that I really wanted to come down here and check out the forty nine Ors scrimmage, but I know they had to back out because of injuries, so you know, yeah, that's the way it goes. I think it's a little different than when we were playing Chase, you know, with a reddal to day.

I know that's something I want to get into later because I definitely retired, you know, a year and a half ago, but I had played through three separate cbas and so the first CBA I played in and O nine when we won the Super Bowl with the Saints, it was like straight up two today practice And now like fast forward to my last year in the league in Los Angeles, and it was just like a walk through for the second one. These guys don't know what work is, man.

I know that's something I want to get into later because I definitely retired, you know, a year and a half ago, but I had played through three separate cbas and so the first CBA I played in and O nine when we won the Super Bowl with the Saints, it was like straight up two today practice And now like fast forward to my last year in the league in Los Angeles, and it was just like a walk through for the second one. These guys don't know what work is, man.

I'm telling you. The cool part is is that people don't realize that there is a difference, or there was a difference. I mean even the even the you know, the rule changes, but you lived it, which is kind of really cool. You know, you got to see it. I mean, I think they started changing the quarterback hit rules in ninety seven. That's when they first started doing it, and that's the year I was. I pretty much said goodbye because wow, I got I got five new body parts, Chase.

I'm telling you. The cool part is is that people don't realize that there is a difference, or there was a difference. I mean even the even the you know, the rule changes, but you lived it, which is kind of really cool. You know, you got to see it. I mean, I think they started changing the quarterback hit rules in ninety seven. That's when they first started doing it, and that's the year I was. I pretty much said goodbye because wow, I got I got five new body parts, Chase.

So it's, oh my gosh, all right, well what let's just before we were gonna just run through the timeline of your career, because I mean, I was I was doing some research on this and reading some of the some like blown away at some of the stuff that I'm reading. So we'll definitely get into that. But first, tell everyone what you're doing right now. I heard you're like really into cryptocurrency, Is that correct?

So it's, oh my gosh, all right, well what let's just before we were gonna just run through the timeline of your career, because I mean, I was I was doing some research on this and reading some of the some like blown away at some of the stuff that I'm reading. So we'll definitely get into that. But first, tell everyone what you're doing right now. I heard you're like really into cryptocurrency, Is that correct?

I am. I'm pretty much anything that has to do with blockchain cryptocurrency. I was an asset manager for fifteen years, Chase. After after the NBA at Pepperdine. And that's right after I left the NFL. So I figured, being the least educated in my family, I better get off with my educated the Pepperdine. They got a great program and had my my asset management firm for fifteen years, went through a pretty uh ungracious divorce and decided I needed to do something else. And and so then, like I said, I got a few big body parts from then, but just kind of like plying around. So I'm kind of like a free agent chase. So I get to help promote in different different sectors of the cryptocurrency or different businesses, on boards of some charities and so just kind of just kind of play around. But having some free time is key. And you probably know that. I mean, just getting to do what you want to do whatever whatever that be.

I am. I'm pretty much anything that has to do with blockchain cryptocurrency. I was an asset manager for fifteen years, Chase. After after the NBA at Pepperdine. And that's right after I left the NFL. So I figured, being the least educated in my family, I better get off with my educated the Pepperdine. They got a great program and had my my asset management firm for fifteen years, went through a pretty uh ungracious divorce and decided I needed to do something else. And and so then, like I said, I got a few big body parts from then, but just kind of like plying around. So I'm kind of like a free agent chase. So I get to help promote in different different sectors of the cryptocurrency or different businesses, on boards of some charities and so just kind of just kind of play around. But having some free time is key. And you probably know that. I mean, just getting to do what you want to do whatever whatever that be.

So yeah, that's awesome, all right.

So yeah, that's awesome, all right.

So I got to ask you because I'm into crypto as well, like not like not like you, because it seems like you know a lot more about it, but I gotta know, and people got to know what's the what's your are you bullish on like bitcoin ethereum? Like what's your coin go to right now? What do you think it's going to be in the next three or four years.

So I got to ask you because I'm into crypto as well, like not like not like you, because it seems like you know a lot more about it, but I gotta know, and people got to know what's the what's your are you bullish on like bitcoin ethereum? Like what's your coin go to right now? What do you think it's going to be in the next three or four years.

So I've been in the in the in the area since twenty fourteen, so I've kind of seen, Oh wow, I've been I've been a hoddler for for bitcoin for sure. I recently divested out of some ethereum and some of the other coins, but I still think there's some play. But I do think that bitcoin is the one. If you're gonna have one coin to hold, that would be the one that I would say, you know, try to try to accumulate those and just hold on to them because I think there's some some real value in it for a period of time. And you're talking about governments. We're still in the new adoption stage at this point right now. So I think what you're seeing people are going, ah, you know, they thought bitcoin at fifteen thousand was expensive, you know, and then it goes to say, so, I really think that there's some upside that you just have to be willing to hold. And this is the thing I would tell all our listeners is that bitcoin is probably one of the most emotional investments out there. It's it's either going to go through the roof or it's or it's it's going to go to zero. You know, it's like that's that's there's no in between, So you just gotta have to hang on for a ride, like you're on some sort of roller coaster at six Flags.

So I've been in the in the in the area since twenty fourteen, so I've kind of seen, Oh wow, I've been I've been a hoddler for for bitcoin for sure. I recently divested out of some ethereum and some of the other coins, but I still think there's some play. But I do think that bitcoin is the one. If you're gonna have one coin to hold, that would be the one that I would say, you know, try to try to accumulate those and just hold on to them because I think there's some some real value in it for a period of time. And you're talking about governments. We're still in the new adoption stage at this point right now. So I think what you're seeing people are going, ah, you know, they thought bitcoin at fifteen thousand was expensive, you know, and then it goes to say, so, I really think that there's some upside that you just have to be willing to hold. And this is the thing I would tell all our listeners is that bitcoin is probably one of the most emotional investments out there. It's it's either going to go through the roof or it's or it's it's going to go to zero. You know, it's like that's that's there's no in between, So you just gotta have to hang on for a ride, like you're on some sort of roller coaster at six Flags.

That's awesome.

That's awesome.

Yeah, I'm I'm very emotional when it comes to that because I see it down to like it dip down to like almost forty nine, and now it's back up to like six and I'm like, oh my gosh, I just gotta I gotta turn my phone off and not look at it.

Yeah, I'm I'm very emotional when it comes to that because I see it down to like it dip down to like almost forty nine, and now it's back up to like six and I'm like, oh my gosh, I just gotta I gotta turn my phone off and not look at it.

Yeah, yet you have them, and that's the other thing. And the other part about is now that they have ETFs, that you can you know, diverse some of your if you want to. I'm not saying put your whole holdings in it, but I think that, uh, you know, there's some fomo fear of missing out. I think you should have some you know, uh, two to five percent of your portfolio in that. I would say the same thing about gold, but that's just kind of Yeah.

Yeah, yet you have them, and that's the other thing. And the other part about is now that they have ETFs, that you can you know, diverse some of your if you want to. I'm not saying put your whole holdings in it, but I think that, uh, you know, there's some fomo fear of missing out. I think you should have some you know, uh, two to five percent of your portfolio in that. I would say the same thing about gold, but that's just kind of Yeah.

I'm a big gold guy too. My dad taught. My dad's been a believer for that as well. Well let's move on. Let's let's go back.

I'm a big gold guy too. My dad taught. My dad's been a believer for that as well. Well let's move on. Let's let's go back.

So you were born in Peria, Kansas. My wife is from Kansas. I know exactly where that is. But you played high school football at El Dorado High School in Albuquerque, New Mexico. You led your team to a thirteen and no record and in New Mexico State championship your senior year. What are your best memories of that team? Because that is awesome, Chase, you've done your homework Man.

So you were born in Peria, Kansas. My wife is from Kansas. I know exactly where that is. But you played high school football at El Dorado High School in Albuquerque, New Mexico. You led your team to a thirteen and no record and in New Mexico State championship your senior year. What are your best memories of that team? Because that is awesome, Chase, you've done your homework Man.

Of chairs for Chase going way back.

Of chairs for Chase going way back.

Yes, yeah, so, oh my gosh, you.

Yes, yeah, so, oh my gosh, you.

Know what was what? I was a Kansas boy maximum my wife is from Kansas as well, but and so is my dad. And I said, they're all k U jayhawkers.

Know what was what? I was a Kansas boy maximum my wife is from Kansas as well, but and so is my dad. And I said, they're all k U jayhawkers.

Uh no, see see in this interview, I'm a zoo.

Uh no, see see in this interview, I'm a zoo.

They're all jay hawkers. Come on, I just got to say, do I go with Chase Daniels or do I go with Locke? Who's my who's my zoo quarter? I don't know.

They're all jay hawkers. Come on, I just got to say, do I go with Chase Daniels or do I go with Locke? Who's my who's my zoo quarter? I don't know.

I mean you got I hope you say me I Drew locks balling?

I mean you got I hope you say me I Drew locks balling?

Yeah, but uh we'll see. I Drew can get on the board here pretty soon. But anyways, I guess when you go back to that. But but my dad helped start the special Department at University of New Mexico. So that's how we got to New Mexico, all his k moved down there. We had a good team. We had six guys on a on an Albuquerque team that went D one, which was unheard of time. Yeah, we were they called us. We had seven shutouts. I played both ways.

Yeah, but uh we'll see. I Drew can get on the board here pretty soon. But anyways, I guess when you go back to that. But but my dad helped start the special Department at University of New Mexico. So that's how we got to New Mexico, all his k moved down there. We had a good team. We had six guys on a on an Albuquerque team that went D one, which was unheard of time. Yeah, we were they called us. We had seven shutouts. I played both ways.

It was my gosh, you played both of What was your was your on defense? What'd you play?

It was my gosh, you played both of What was your was your on defense? What'd you play?

I was All State strong safety two years in a row.

I was All State strong safety two years in a row.

So go, it was unbelievable.

So go, it was unbelievable.

Texas and Arizona State wanted me as as on linebacker and I'm like, oh, that would have been a short career. Yeah.

Texas and Arizona State wanted me as as on linebacker and I'm like, oh, that would have been a short career. Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So fast forward after your senior year, you won the state championship and then you.

So fast forward after your senior year, you won the state championship and then you.

Go to Purdue.

Go to Purdue.

You played all four years at Purdue.

You played all four years at Purdue.

I mean, dude, like, you finish your career with five hundred and fifty completions, nine hundred and twenty three attempts, almost eight thousand yards passing forty touchdowns. What led you from New Mexico to Purdue Because that's a big jump in state wise, Like, that's a long way from home.

I mean, dude, like, you finish your career with five hundred and fifty completions, nine hundred and twenty three attempts, almost eight thousand yards passing forty touchdowns. What led you from New Mexico to Purdue Because that's a big jump in state wise, Like, that's a long way from home.

Yeah it is, But at the time, Chase, it's kind of hard to describe it. Now, Purdue was kind of like QBU, you know, it was like you had hip Scary Danielson and then later on, of course you had Drew Brees come and myself if we had a guy named Scott Campbell was really really good. It came down when I was looking at universities either he's either going to go to Stanford or go to Purdue, and those were the two best. And John Elway was at Stanford at the time. I thought I could go to Purdue and start right away. But so but that didn't happen. But yeah, even the best plans chase you try to do it, you know. But absolutely, yeah, I needed to grow up mature wise. I think I was a good athlete, but I needed to learn the whole pastes. And that's what Jim Young really incorporated. And that was the you know, you think about Purdue University, you think about astronauts, and you think about quarterbacks, and that's what.

Yeah it is, But at the time, Chase, it's kind of hard to describe it. Now, Purdue was kind of like QBU, you know, it was like you had hip Scary Danielson and then later on, of course you had Drew Brees come and myself if we had a guy named Scott Campbell was really really good. It came down when I was looking at universities either he's either going to go to Stanford or go to Purdue, and those were the two best. And John Elway was at Stanford at the time. I thought I could go to Purdue and start right away. But so but that didn't happen. But yeah, even the best plans chase you try to do it, you know. But absolutely, yeah, I needed to grow up mature wise. I think I was a good athlete, but I needed to learn the whole pastes. And that's what Jim Young really incorporated. And that was the you know, you think about Purdue University, you think about astronauts, and you think about quarterbacks, and that's what.

Yes, and Drew Brees will tell me the first one to tell you the quarterback he knows every single one. And it's just like, I mean, it really is like quarterback. You I got to give him some props. And then you know, talk about your nineteen eighty four season. You led the Boilermakers to nineteen eighty four Peach Bowl, which was awesome. Here's something that Drew Brees does not have. Okay, during the season, you helped Purdue beat Michigan Notre Dame, Ohio State in the same season. It was the only time in school history that that feat was accomplished.

Yes, and Drew Brees will tell me the first one to tell you the quarterback he knows every single one. And it's just like, I mean, it really is like quarterback. You I got to give him some props. And then you know, talk about your nineteen eighty four season. You led the Boilermakers to nineteen eighty four Peach Bowl, which was awesome. Here's something that Drew Brees does not have. Okay, during the season, you helped Purdue beat Michigan Notre Dame, Ohio State in the same season. It was the only time in school history that that feat was accomplished.

What did it mean to you to be able.

What did it mean to you to be able.

To do that? Because that's you, which means I had some pretty dang good teammates. This is what we really it's we had a before that season, Chase, I'll tell you that. You know, because everyone talks about mental preparation, physical preparation, all these we had a guy named Fred Mills come and talk with our team, and so not only did we have two days, but we had a whole session with Fred Mills every day during during our training camp. But anyways, it was about a power of positive thinking about first person visualization, and I mean we took that. We took that all the way and so you know, it's like one of those times we're like, hey, why not us? Why not us? And so just kind of had that mentality like us against the world, and we stuck to it, and we had some some guys and I'm going to say we all there was some overachieving happening by my teammates and we just jelled and it was one of those years that you're like, hey, you know we were really we should have gone to the Rose Bowl. We had to play Wisconsin up in some driving a hailstorm and it got.

To do that? Because that's you, which means I had some pretty dang good teammates. This is what we really it's we had a before that season, Chase, I'll tell you that. You know, because everyone talks about mental preparation, physical preparation, all these we had a guy named Fred Mills come and talk with our team, and so not only did we have two days, but we had a whole session with Fred Mills every day during during our training camp. But anyways, it was about a power of positive thinking about first person visualization, and I mean we took that. We took that all the way and so you know, it's like one of those times we're like, hey, why not us? Why not us? And so just kind of had that mentality like us against the world, and we stuck to it, and we had some some guys and I'm going to say we all there was some overachieving happening by my teammates and we just jelled and it was one of those years that you're like, hey, you know we were really we should have gone to the Rose Bowl. We had to play Wisconsin up in some driving a hailstorm and it got.

Its horrible weather.

Its horrible weather.

Yeah, that was it was horrible. But anyways, it was. It was a great year. It was a good season. I thought the next year in eighty five that we'd come back and be even better. We were still about a five hundred team at that point.

Yeah, that was it was horrible. But anyways, it was. It was a great year. It was a good season. I thought the next year in eighty five that we'd come back and be even better. We were still about a five hundred team at that point.

But yeah, no, I wanted to get into the eighty five season because it was your senior year. You set the school total offense record. At the time, you were second in the nation in total offense. What do you think led to so much success for you that year to be able to handle that?

But yeah, no, I wanted to get into the eighty five season because it was your senior year. You set the school total offense record. At the time, you were second in the nation in total offense. What do you think led to so much success for you that year to be able to handle that?

Well, we knew we're a pass first team. It was you know, we led the n Cuba and passing it was us and by U. So when when you played you know, the Boilermakers, you knew you were going to pass first, and a lot of it was extended handoffs. A lot we didn't have the bubble screen like they have now. I wish we had. Yeah, we had a play called fan Hide, and we put all the offensive lineman on one on one blocking and that was kind of the downfall of it. But I would just get the ball out quick.

Well, we knew we're a pass first team. It was you know, we led the n Cuba and passing it was us and by U. So when when you played you know, the Boilermakers, you knew you were going to pass first, and a lot of it was extended handoffs. A lot we didn't have the bubble screen like they have now. I wish we had. Yeah, we had a play called fan Hide, and we put all the offensive lineman on one on one blocking and that was kind of the downfall of it. But I would just get the ball out quick.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So it was just a matter of we were just playing a form of basketball and it worked out well for us, especially against teams that you know, had a bunch of the five star athletes and we needed to kind of do other things than muscle them. Yeah.

So it was just a matter of we were just playing a form of basketball and it worked out well for us, especially against teams that you know, had a bunch of the five star athletes and we needed to kind of do other things than muscle them. Yeah.

No, so you'd be like that point guard out there. It makes complete sense.

No, so you'd be like that point guard out there. It makes complete sense.

It's it's like how a lot of teams nowadays, you guys seem like you were three decades before the time of what the game is today.

It's it's like how a lot of teams nowadays, you guys seem like you were three decades before the time of what the game is today.

Well, we did, because there was times where we'd leave guys unblocked, knowing that we would just fill his spot after he left it, and so we were It was a lot of the stuff that I see going on in the NFL translates to some of the stuff that we were doing. Not exactly, there's more open, there's more even more shotgun, even though we were almost entirely the shotgun team.

Well, we did, because there was times where we'd leave guys unblocked, knowing that we would just fill his spot after he left it, and so we were It was a lot of the stuff that I see going on in the NFL translates to some of the stuff that we were doing. Not exactly, there's more open, there's more even more shotgun, even though we were almost entirely the shotgun team.

Yeah. So, uh, fast forward to Embreeze was playing he broke Broke your school record.

Yeah. So, uh, fast forward to Embreeze was playing he broke Broke your school record.

How do you how do you feel about that? Oh? I love it. I mean so the crazy part about is his coach was Joe Tiller. Joe Tiller was our defensive line coach for us when we play at Purdue. Joe Tiller ends up going to Wyoming has some sort of I don't know, some magic. He comes back with this offense that just wide open, and then he gets this quarterback out of Texas was like small enough to be in the Big ten, and all of a sudden he breaks every damn record we have and it's wide open offense. It was fun to see. Drew ran it great. I thought even the guys after him that that came along did a good job. But Drew really hit that tied end. Oh my gosh, I can't remember his name right off hand, but yeah, it was. It was a good squad. They had a good defense, they really and Joe did a really good and uh job with him. And I know they honored Joe Tiller to this day. I know he passed away our rip Joe, but I know he was very instrumental and making sure that Drew was successful. And then Drew's the type of guy that just you know, as everyone knows the Neworleans he just he's just passionate about life and passionate about his job.

How do you how do you feel about that? Oh? I love it. I mean so the crazy part about is his coach was Joe Tiller. Joe Tiller was our defensive line coach for us when we play at Purdue. Joe Tiller ends up going to Wyoming has some sort of I don't know, some magic. He comes back with this offense that just wide open, and then he gets this quarterback out of Texas was like small enough to be in the Big ten, and all of a sudden he breaks every damn record we have and it's wide open offense. It was fun to see. Drew ran it great. I thought even the guys after him that that came along did a good job. But Drew really hit that tied end. Oh my gosh, I can't remember his name right off hand, but yeah, it was. It was a good squad. They had a good defense, they really and Joe did a really good and uh job with him. And I know they honored Joe Tiller to this day. I know he passed away our rip Joe, but I know he was very instrumental and making sure that Drew was successful. And then Drew's the type of guy that just you know, as everyone knows the Neworleans he just he's just passionate about life and passionate about his job.

Yeah, no, for sure.

Yeah, no, for sure.

So so after that amazing success of a senior year for you personally, did you like want to go to the next level? Were their thoughts and hopes and dreams to play in the NFL? Or where was your mindset after that nineteen eighty five season?

So so after that amazing success of a senior year for you personally, did you like want to go to the next level? Were their thoughts and hopes and dreams to play in the NFL? Or where was your mindset after that nineteen eighty five season?

And it ended, so check this out, Chase, So eighty four ends, and I was really gonna I thought I was going to come out and they were saying, ah, you're going to be a mid round choice. Well, the big talk the rule change. They changed from red shirt rules from twenty percent if you played twenty percent your freshman year or whatever it is, they moved that up to thirty percent. So with that rule change, Jack Trudeau, Chuck Long and myself got another year of eligibility. So that's the book.

And it ended, so check this out, Chase, So eighty four ends, and I was really gonna I thought I was going to come out and they were saying, ah, you're going to be a mid round choice. Well, the big talk the rule change. They changed from red shirt rules from twenty percent if you played twenty percent your freshman year or whatever it is, they moved that up to thirty percent. So with that rule change, Jack Trudeau, Chuck Long and myself got another year of eligibility. So that's the book.

Yeah, my fifth year, Oh my goodness.

Yeah, my fifth year, Oh my goodness.

So you know, at that point it was you know, then it was a Heisman push and a bunch of all those things. Yeah, And at that point I knew once we got in the season, I'm like, you know, it's kind of down between Chuck Long and myself, who's going to be the quarterback off the board. And I knew Chuck and he was actually a ram with me for a while. You know, he's a good he's a good deep ball thrower. Athletic wise, he wasn't. He wasn't what everyone's looking for in your first round draft pick. But Detroit took him in and you know, he did a fine job. But you know, I thought I could play. I thought athletic wise, I could play. And you know, throughout the years, and we didn't even talk about this, they almost converted me back to tight end when I threw too many picks. No, what year are you serious? I swear to God, Chase By. It was my third year there because as their five and something happened with Scott Campbell. They put me in and I actually played pretty well. But then the next game I came out and you know, I sometimes he was giving the ball up to the other team, and I got pulled in there, like I think you can get better tied in.

So you know, at that point it was you know, then it was a Heisman push and a bunch of all those things. Yeah, And at that point I knew once we got in the season, I'm like, you know, it's kind of down between Chuck Long and myself, who's going to be the quarterback off the board. And I knew Chuck and he was actually a ram with me for a while. You know, he's a good he's a good deep ball thrower. Athletic wise, he wasn't. He wasn't what everyone's looking for in your first round draft pick. But Detroit took him in and you know, he did a fine job. But you know, I thought I could play. I thought athletic wise, I could play. And you know, throughout the years, and we didn't even talk about this, they almost converted me back to tight end when I threw too many picks. No, what year are you serious? I swear to God, Chase By. It was my third year there because as their five and something happened with Scott Campbell. They put me in and I actually played pretty well. But then the next game I came out and you know, I sometimes he was giving the ball up to the other team, and I got pulled in there, like I think you can get better tied in.

Oh my gosh, Well that makes no sense to me because you were drafted in the first round, the third overall of the nineteen eighty six NFL draft.

Oh my gosh, Well that makes no sense to me because you were drafted in the first round, the third overall of the nineteen eighty six NFL draft.

By the Houston Oilers. By the way, that was my birth year, just so you know, who had already had quarterback.

By the Houston Oilers. By the way, that was my birth year, just so you know, who had already had quarterback.

Warren Moon on the roster. Okay, just for listeners out there, you would not sign with a team with miss training camp and the first two weeks of the season before the Rams traded for you. What was it like being selected by the Oilers who already had a star quarterback in war the Moon.

Warren Moon on the roster. Okay, just for listeners out there, you would not sign with a team with miss training camp and the first two weeks of the season before the Rams traded for you. What was it like being selected by the Oilers who already had a star quarterback in war the Moon.

Let me give you this real quick, Okay. So I Atlanta takes both uh wait, wait, bo Jackson's the first guy off the board. I think that's the Raiders. And then Atlanta needed a quarterback, but they went Tony Cassias as I thought. I was in Atlanta, that's it. So Houston had third pick, and we thought they were going to go John Hand or at least that's what was told. And in Indianapolis had fourth pick. They needed a quarterback and they were sixty miles away from Purdue. I already had a contract.

Let me give you this real quick, Okay. So I Atlanta takes both uh wait, wait, bo Jackson's the first guy off the board. I think that's the Raiders. And then Atlanta needed a quarterback, but they went Tony Cassias as I thought. I was in Atlanta, that's it. So Houston had third pick, and we thought they were going to go John Hand or at least that's what was told. And in Indianapolis had fourth pick. They needed a quarterback and they were sixty miles away from Purdue. I already had a contract.

Line up with Are you serious?

Line up with Are you serious?

I did it? But my agent already talked to him and we already had We knew what the number was, didn't Yeah. So Houston comes in and they want Indianapolis full back to switch because Indianapolis moved up to the fourth pick, and Houston goes, why didn't you move up to the third pick, and they're like, oh, we can get ever it here. Houston drafts me in spite of what no. I totally got drafted to be traded Jason. That was the thing about it, and so every you know, at the time, we didn't have social media. I didn't have a voice out there. It was the media. It was like, Oh, he's not signing because he wants more money Houston. All they offered me was half of what Indianapolis offered me, and they put everything else in incentives. And I'm like, wait a minute, you picked up one pick ahead, but you're gonna pay me half. I'm like, I'm not signing that. So I held out and then Chase. There was some other stories. I almost was a Green Bay Packer. I almost was in San Francisco forty nine ers and the Rams came up and then and then I got traded there. But it was kind of interesting because that was my first really experienced with business in football and I felt like meat and and that's I think they have changed the thing where now they don't draft a guy and then trade him later. What they'll try to do is if you're targeting a guy, they'll the NFL really wants you to trade the pick prior to.

I did it? But my agent already talked to him and we already had We knew what the number was, didn't Yeah. So Houston comes in and they want Indianapolis full back to switch because Indianapolis moved up to the fourth pick, and Houston goes, why didn't you move up to the third pick, and they're like, oh, we can get ever it here. Houston drafts me in spite of what no. I totally got drafted to be traded Jason. That was the thing about it, and so every you know, at the time, we didn't have social media. I didn't have a voice out there. It was the media. It was like, Oh, he's not signing because he wants more money Houston. All they offered me was half of what Indianapolis offered me, and they put everything else in incentives. And I'm like, wait a minute, you picked up one pick ahead, but you're gonna pay me half. I'm like, I'm not signing that. So I held out and then Chase. There was some other stories. I almost was a Green Bay Packer. I almost was in San Francisco forty nine ers and the Rams came up and then and then I got traded there. But it was kind of interesting because that was my first really experienced with business in football and I felt like meat and and that's I think they have changed the thing where now they don't draft a guy and then trade him later. What they'll try to do is if you're targeting a guy, they'll the NFL really wants you to trade the pick prior to.

The pick guy, because I mean, I think one of the last ones was what Eli Manning right Like, he was one of the last ones that like just said no, I'm not playing for them.

The pick guy, because I mean, I think one of the last ones was what Eli Manning right Like, he was one of the last ones that like just said no, I'm not playing for them.

Right right. But he told him that before they drafted him. I mean it was well known because I know Archie. Archie did not want his kids playing in San Diego. There are certain clubs you know, you get, but there's certain clubs that have a chance and there's certain ones that don't. Yeahs have been in the dumb category.

Right right. But he told him that before they drafted him. I mean it was well known because I know Archie. Archie did not want his kids playing in San Diego. There are certain clubs you know, you get, but there's certain clubs that have a chance and there's certain ones that don't. Yeahs have been in the dumb category.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, I mean the Rams traded the house for you. They traded uh Pro bowlguard Kent Hill, defense William Fuller, two first round selections and a fifth round selection. You made your debut, I believe in week eleven. How was that missing training camp, learning new offense, going in and playing not till week eleven?

Well, I mean the Rams traded the house for you. They traded uh Pro bowlguard Kent Hill, defense William Fuller, two first round selections and a fifth round selection. You made your debut, I believe in week eleven. How was that missing training camp, learning new offense, going in and playing not till week eleven?

No, it was, it was. It was crazy. I'm sitting here staying at like the Motel eight whatever whatever whatever it was, and all I was doing was talking in this little microphone or the tape recorder calling the play is just to try to get to get up to speed. But the easy part about that whole thing jas was I had a teammate named Eric Dickerson, so pretty much twenty eight toss right, twenty nine toss left. But that was something that the passing game when I got to the pros, was not even close to the sophistication that we had it Purdue. So it was and we had we had at the time, we had two different offensive coordinators. We had a run coordinator and a pass coordinator. Look at the sideline and see who had the head coach was talking to John Robinson, And if it was talking to the run coordinator, I knew it was run coming in. If it was talking to the past coordinator, now I'm I'm a rookie, right, I'm sure everyone else on the other sideline knew the exact same thing. So, yeah, you're.

No, it was, it was. It was crazy. I'm sitting here staying at like the Motel eight whatever whatever whatever it was, and all I was doing was talking in this little microphone or the tape recorder calling the play is just to try to get to get up to speed. But the easy part about that whole thing jas was I had a teammate named Eric Dickerson, so pretty much twenty eight toss right, twenty nine toss left. But that was something that the passing game when I got to the pros, was not even close to the sophistication that we had it Purdue. So it was and we had we had at the time, we had two different offensive coordinators. We had a run coordinator and a pass coordinator. Look at the sideline and see who had the head coach was talking to John Robinson, And if it was talking to the run coordinator, I knew it was run coming in. If it was talking to the past coordinator, now I'm I'm a rookie, right, I'm sure everyone else on the other sideline knew the exact same thing. So, yeah, you're.

Talking to who's who's calling the plays.

Talking to who's who's calling the plays.

But when you got a guy named Eric Dickerson back they're running, it made it like really easy, so like, go ahead, go ahead, try to stop him. So that was that was really nice. It's a rookie and actually, I look at that when I see guys in today's draft, what what are they getting draft into? Like, like, let's take Williams up in Chicago. You know, he's got a lot of talent at wide receiver, and that's not you know, when you're a first round high draft pick, you usually come into a team and we could take uh uh uh Bryce over in Carolina. Yeah, you have a team that that they'd the number one pick for a reason, and it shows because you don't have a lot of talent. Roy Aikman experienced that with Dallas.

But when you got a guy named Eric Dickerson back they're running, it made it like really easy, so like, go ahead, go ahead, try to stop him. So that was that was really nice. It's a rookie and actually, I look at that when I see guys in today's draft, what what are they getting draft into? Like, like, let's take Williams up in Chicago. You know, he's got a lot of talent at wide receiver, and that's not you know, when you're a first round high draft pick, you usually come into a team and we could take uh uh uh Bryce over in Carolina. Yeah, you have a team that that they'd the number one pick for a reason, and it shows because you don't have a lot of talent. Roy Aikman experienced that with Dallas.

Oh my gosh, go thereugh a ton of interceptions.

Oh my gosh, go thereugh a ton of interceptions.

Yeah, and even Peyton Manning he did so. And then once you once you like, let's take Troy and once they get a micro orr and once they get the running back and you.

Yeah, and even Peyton Manning he did so. And then once you once you like, let's take Troy and once they get a micro orr and once they get the running back and you.

Know the Emmit and Alvin Harper and j Noahchak and they.

Know the Emmit and Alvin Harper and j Noahchak and they.

Just see all those guys and so they already have that in place for Williams this year in Chicago. So I'm like, well, that's rare, and I think his success will be different.

Just see all those guys and so they already have that in place for Williams this year in Chicago. So I'm like, well, that's rare, and I think his success will be different.

C J.

C J.

Stroud, you see a little bit of that down in Texas. You know, he had some good talent around him. They didn't realize that the other quarterbacks they had probably weren't as good as CJ.

Stroud, you see a little bit of that down in Texas. You know, he had some good talent around him. They didn't realize that the other quarterbacks they had probably weren't as good as CJ.

But man, yeah, no, no, definitely, I mean, that's that's that's insane, that's crazy. So you go on to play eight seasons for the Rams, one hundred and seven games, almost twenty five thousand passing yards, one hundred and forty two touchdowns. You let you still to this day lead the franchise and career passing yards, and you're second in touchdowns. And during your tenure with the Rams, you led the NFL and passing touchdowns in nineteen eighty eight and nineteen eighty nine. What led to both those teams you're being on and your individual success in eighty eight and eighty nine with the Rams, that just stood out to you that you were able to have such great seasons.

But man, yeah, no, no, definitely, I mean, that's that's that's insane, that's crazy. So you go on to play eight seasons for the Rams, one hundred and seven games, almost twenty five thousand passing yards, one hundred and forty two touchdowns. You let you still to this day lead the franchise and career passing yards, and you're second in touchdowns. And during your tenure with the Rams, you led the NFL and passing touchdowns in nineteen eighty eight and nineteen eighty nine. What led to both those teams you're being on and your individual success in eighty eight and eighty nine with the Rams, that just stood out to you that you were able to have such great seasons.

Well, Chase, you talk about leading touchdown passes two years in a run. Now, there's only eleven quarterbacks that have done that. So it was it's kind of it's kind of a nice, nice.

Well, Chase, you talk about leading touchdown passes two years in a run. Now, there's only eleven quarterbacks that have done that. So it was it's kind of it's kind of a nice, nice.

Company in huge.

Company in huge.

So we brought the offensive coordinator that used to be with Dan Fouts from San Diego and we stole them and his name was Ernie Zampazi and he came up in eighty seven in eighty seven. I don't expect for you to know this was a strike year, and that kind of messed up the whole playoffs and all that stuff because our strike team, I think went Owen was that the scabs.

So we brought the offensive coordinator that used to be with Dan Fouts from San Diego and we stole them and his name was Ernie Zampazi and he came up in eighty seven in eighty seven. I don't expect for you to know this was a strike year, and that kind of messed up the whole playoffs and all that stuff because our strike team, I think went Owen was that the scabs.

Was that the was that the Sean Payton scab year, that was the.

Was that the was that the Sean Payton scab year, that was the.

Scab Oh my god. Yeah, that was kind of like, you know, I had old players and they're taking four games off and they'll never make that money up. It was really really a tough strikes are really really difficult. But we we started implementing that offense, and at the end of eighty seven, I kind of it kind of clicked. I was like, oh, I know, and now I get it. I get what we're trying to get done because we're throwing the skinny posts, we're doing all the all the scat protection. So we always had a free rusher, so it was it was good. And so then we got to go to eighty eight eighty nine and it just worked out that, you know, we had frit Shermer was running a bend not break defense that was good enough for to do what we're doing. Offensive wise, we were we were getting better. We needed we needed our younger receivers to come through. We got those, We got Flipper, we got Aaron Cox, and once once we got the guys in place that could run the system that that we needed, then it was then it was, it was, It was great. It was our offfensive line in ninety ninety one that got a little bit old. And that's the importance of that. But it was funny when I when I when I became a Saint and I had Willie rof as my left tackle, had the biggest smile on my face because the left tackle is so important and having a huge We didn't know he was going to be a Hall of Famer at the time, but I knew he was really good. And if you watch will It, do you ever seen Willy RoAF walk?

Scab Oh my god. Yeah, that was kind of like, you know, I had old players and they're taking four games off and they'll never make that money up. It was really really a tough strikes are really really difficult. But we we started implementing that offense, and at the end of eighty seven, I kind of it kind of clicked. I was like, oh, I know, and now I get it. I get what we're trying to get done because we're throwing the skinny posts, we're doing all the all the scat protection. So we always had a free rusher, so it was it was good. And so then we got to go to eighty eight eighty nine and it just worked out that, you know, we had frit Shermer was running a bend not break defense that was good enough for to do what we're doing. Offensive wise, we were we were getting better. We needed we needed our younger receivers to come through. We got those, We got Flipper, we got Aaron Cox, and once once we got the guys in place that could run the system that that we needed, then it was then it was, it was, It was great. It was our offfensive line in ninety ninety one that got a little bit old. And that's the importance of that. But it was funny when I when I when I became a Saint and I had Willie rof as my left tackle, had the biggest smile on my face because the left tackle is so important and having a huge We didn't know he was going to be a Hall of Famer at the time, but I knew he was really good. And if you watch will It, do you ever seen Willy RoAF walk?

Yeah, he's a big human.

Yeah, he's a big human.

You got a little something, But I mean he's as athletic as a cat. I'm telling you this. Yeah, lovely. He's such a good people and it was so much fun coming down there and being behind a good offensive line. Again. So that was.

You got a little something, But I mean he's as athletic as a cat. I'm telling you this. Yeah, lovely. He's such a good people and it was so much fun coming down there and being behind a good offensive line. Again. So that was.

Before we Yeah, you said something, I should have caught it and when I was doing research and we'll get to the Saints right after this. But so eighty seven was a striker you got, you got drafted in eighty six, so you played the whole eighty six year and then talk about because I'm interested, talk about that strike here at eighty seven.

Before we Yeah, you said something, I should have caught it and when I was doing research and we'll get to the Saints right after this. But so eighty seven was a striker you got, you got drafted in eighty six, so you played the whole eighty six year and then talk about because I'm interested, talk about that strike here at eighty seven.

Oh yeah, we don't want to experience the strikes. I mean, I know we're going to always threaten them as a CBA, and I know that's an important part. But then it was, it was especially when they brought the scabs in and the games weren't shut down, and there was the older guys or the ones who really had to pay because you know, you get paid by the week. Yeah, and I look at a guy like Dennis Hare and Nolan Cromwell at the time whatever, and they were making you know, fifteen twenty thousand a game. And nowadays I was doing this the you know, the calculations. There's guys making you know, eighty thousand dollars a play now. But anyways, that's a whole other subject.

Oh yeah, we don't want to experience the strikes. I mean, I know we're going to always threaten them as a CBA, and I know that's an important part. But then it was, it was especially when they brought the scabs in and the games weren't shut down, and there was the older guys or the ones who really had to pay because you know, you get paid by the week. Yeah, and I look at a guy like Dennis Hare and Nolan Cromwell at the time whatever, and they were making you know, fifteen twenty thousand a game. And nowadays I was doing this the you know, the calculations. There's guys making you know, eighty thousand dollars a play now. But anyways, that's a whole other subject.

Yeah, that's true.

Yeah, that's true.

Yeah, but it was, it's it's it's hard on the guys, but it's it's something you know, you need to make a stand on what you're you know, what you want as an organization or what you want as a union. But then collectively to take your self out of that is really really difficult, especially in an entertainment after so hopefully they don't ever have to experience that again. The games successful. Goodell is doing a good job with the NFL, and there's been harmony and hopefully it will continue because it's it's really a good sport. I do love the rule changes to Chase. I mean because you lived through all the changes. I lived through the changes, and it was like, you know, it was it was you know, they were they were trying to knock you out back.

Yeah, but it was, it's it's it's hard on the guys, but it's it's something you know, you need to make a stand on what you're you know, what you want as an organization or what you want as a union. But then collectively to take your self out of that is really really difficult, especially in an entertainment after so hopefully they don't ever have to experience that again. The games successful. Goodell is doing a good job with the NFL, and there's been harmony and hopefully it will continue because it's it's really a good sport. I do love the rule changes to Chase. I mean because you lived through all the changes. I lived through the changes, and it was like, you know, it was it was you know, they were they were trying to knock you out back.

When we yeah, oh yeah, if you can get yeah, you.

When we yeah, oh yeah, if you can get yeah, you.

Get your second string quarterback playing, you got a better chance to win if you're the opponent. So that.

Get your second string quarterback playing, you got a better chance to win if you're the opponent. So that.

Yeah, no, I mean yeah, that that that we I played through the young CAPTI year in twenty eleven, and that was a little bit weird because we didn't even get let into the facility, uh until like a week before the season. So I can't even imagine what the eighty eighty seven strike was. But you were traded to the Saints in March of ninety four, and oh, by the way, you set the franchise ain'ts single season passing marks in nineteen ninety four with thirty eight hundred yards and then again in nineteen ninety five, only to be surpassed by Drew Brees once again.

Yeah, no, I mean yeah, that that that we I played through the young CAPTI year in twenty eleven, and that was a little bit weird because we didn't even get let into the facility, uh until like a week before the season. So I can't even imagine what the eighty eighty seven strike was. But you were traded to the Saints in March of ninety four, and oh, by the way, you set the franchise ain'ts single season passing marks in nineteen ninety four with thirty eight hundred yards and then again in nineteen ninety five, only to be surpassed by Drew Brees once again.

But everything I do.

But everything I do.

But yeah, I know, I know, I know.

But yeah, I know, I know, I know.

What was it like joining the Saints after spinning solong with the Rams, specifically being coached by Jim Morrow.

What was it like joining the Saints after spinning solong with the Rams, specifically being coached by Jim Morrow.

Yeah, Jim Morra is one of my favorite people on the planet. It really is. And I know, I think New Orleans got was a blessing to have Jim Mora in New Orleans for as long as he did, you know, the whole I know, at the end, at the end of his career, the defense wasn't it wasn't the Dome patrol anymore, because when you had the dome down in New Orleans, I mean, those guys were I had a chance to play one year with Ricky Jackson. That was that was really fun. But it's Sam Mills and those got so good and swilling and they made life miserable for us. But to be able to, you know, I was saying, Ah, finally get to be with a team, because I think most of the teams the highest ranked defense I ever played with was twenty or twenty one, and so I say, all right, I'm gonna go down to New Orleans and we're.

Yeah, Jim Morra is one of my favorite people on the planet. It really is. And I know, I think New Orleans got was a blessing to have Jim Mora in New Orleans for as long as he did, you know, the whole I know, at the end, at the end of his career, the defense wasn't it wasn't the Dome patrol anymore, because when you had the dome down in New Orleans, I mean, those guys were I had a chance to play one year with Ricky Jackson. That was that was really fun. But it's Sam Mills and those got so good and swilling and they made life miserable for us. But to be able to, you know, I was saying, Ah, finally get to be with a team, because I think most of the teams the highest ranked defense I ever played with was twenty or twenty one, and so I say, all right, I'm gonna go down to New Orleans and we're.

Gonna have an awesome defense.

Gonna have an awesome defense.

But then all of a sudden, they got old and they start changing out, and that's really really got under Jim's skin, and I don't blame him. It was like, we go down and play Carolina Panthers and he's got his old defensive coordinator being the coaching over there, and we take the l over there and man, he just lost it. But I don't blame him. Competitive game chase its shit, and no one likes to lose in his business.

But then all of a sudden, they got old and they start changing out, and that's really really got under Jim's skin, and I don't blame him. It was like, we go down and play Carolina Panthers and he's got his old defensive coordinator being the coaching over there, and we take the l over there and man, he just lost it. But I don't blame him. Competitive game chase its shit, and no one likes to lose in his business.

What's your best Jim Morris story?

What's your best Jim Morris story?

My best Jim Morris story? I don't know if I have a man between him and.

My best Jim Morris story? I don't know if I have a man between him and.

Tater or anything that he may may have done differently than other coaches you've been with.

Tater or anything that he may may have done differently than other coaches you've been with.

Well, he plays golf a little bit better than most of the other coaches that I've been around. Okay, yeah, it's still it's still. I mean when they say golf and you got a handicap, well, Jim still has a handicap golfing. But anyways, he's We have fun, We have some mutual friends. We try to get out when we can. But I haven't seen him in a little bit. But uh, I heard he was on here the other day. But that's awesome. I think, you know, with Jim was and when I got there, there would be times he would come up to me after practice and just just go wow, wow, and uh, because I don't know if he's had the quarterback position before I got there, or at least in his tenure, that that did some of the things that we could do. And that was that was kind of that was fun to see it fun to see him light up. Being he was more of a defensive mind. But man, he did not like points scored against him.

Well, he plays golf a little bit better than most of the other coaches that I've been around. Okay, yeah, it's still it's still. I mean when they say golf and you got a handicap, well, Jim still has a handicap golfing. But anyways, he's We have fun, We have some mutual friends. We try to get out when we can. But I haven't seen him in a little bit. But uh, I heard he was on here the other day. But that's awesome. I think, you know, with Jim was and when I got there, there would be times he would come up to me after practice and just just go wow, wow, and uh, because I don't know if he's had the quarterback position before I got there, or at least in his tenure, that that did some of the things that we could do. And that was that was kind of that was fun to see it fun to see him light up. Being he was more of a defensive mind. But man, he did not like points scored against him.

Yeah, I don't think anyone anyone does. A couple more questionable. We'll let you.

Yeah, I don't think anyone anyone does. A couple more questionable. We'll let you.

More stories. Was not when I was actually with it was it was it was a Sunday night game. We were actually playing the We were the Rams and were playing the Saints, and we ended up setting that Flipper record and that I don't know, Flipper has three hundred and thirty nine or three hundred and thirty six yards and fifteen. It still stands to this day, right. But his Morn's defense was killing. They sacked me like six times. We were down seventeen to three in the fourth quarter and we come back and win that game. And I remember keep looking over at Jim Moore and see him he and you might want to bleep this, but he said, God damn. Seeing him over there starting to panic, was like, oh, finally, I think we just wore swelling In Jackson out because they were rushing so much. But that would be thank what we looked at the at the end of the game. He just looked at me and it was one of those those mutual respects.

More stories. Was not when I was actually with it was it was it was a Sunday night game. We were actually playing the We were the Rams and were playing the Saints, and we ended up setting that Flipper record and that I don't know, Flipper has three hundred and thirty nine or three hundred and thirty six yards and fifteen. It still stands to this day, right. But his Morn's defense was killing. They sacked me like six times. We were down seventeen to three in the fourth quarter and we come back and win that game. And I remember keep looking over at Jim Moore and see him he and you might want to bleep this, but he said, God damn. Seeing him over there starting to panic, was like, oh, finally, I think we just wore swelling In Jackson out because they were rushing so much. But that would be thank what we looked at the at the end of the game. He just looked at me and it was one of those those mutual respects.

So you you were the quarterback for Flippers record. Oh my god, dude, that's amazing.

So you you were the quarterback for Flippers record. Oh my god, dude, that's amazing.

Fifteen catches, three hundred and thirty six yards, twenty two point four yards per catch. I had no idea it was you, and said against the Saints, that's crazy.

Fifteen catches, three hundred and thirty six yards, twenty two point four yards per catch. I had no idea it was you, and said against the Saints, that's crazy.

Yeah, no, it's it's a full circle. Life is full circle. But I think, my gosh, it's backed after that part and then yeah, and then getting to be in practice with Jim and do things, I think he just he just it just changed his idea of what quarterback should and should not be. Wow.

Yeah, no, it's it's a full circle. Life is full circle. But I think, my gosh, it's backed after that part and then yeah, and then getting to be in practice with Jim and do things, I think he just he just it just changed his idea of what quarterback should and should not be. Wow.

All right, last question here on it. We know you got to get the practice. You played one more season for the Chargers in nineteen ninety seven appeared in four games, but your lone start of that season and the last start of your career was in Week two against the Saints, where you threw for one hundred and ninety five yards in a touchdown and you beat them twenty to six. What did you think about getting your last start against the Saints?

All right, last question here on it. We know you got to get the practice. You played one more season for the Chargers in nineteen ninety seven appeared in four games, but your lone start of that season and the last start of your career was in Week two against the Saints, where you threw for one hundred and ninety five yards in a touchdown and you beat them twenty to six. What did you think about getting your last start against the Saints?

Okay, so let me let me give you a little bit of the backstory on there. So after Jim Moore Are, they hired Mike Ditka. I was coming down for the summer because uh, or for the summer or practice, and he and I was in the middle of Texas and he calls me up and goes, I think we changed her mind. We're gonna let you go. And I go seriously, and I think they had Danny Wharfel or whatever at the time, and I go, you're gonna go with a rookie or a young guy, And I go, I think I can really help. And because he had Danny A. Bramerwitz, it's going to be his offensive coordinator and he's like yeah, he goes, We're just gonna go. And so that's that's when I ended up going to San Diego with Kevin Gilbride and and uh his rookie coach thing, and that was that was interesting and it so.

Okay, so let me let me give you a little bit of the backstory on there. So after Jim Moore Are, they hired Mike Ditka. I was coming down for the summer because uh, or for the summer or practice, and he and I was in the middle of Texas and he calls me up and goes, I think we changed her mind. We're gonna let you go. And I go seriously, and I think they had Danny Wharfel or whatever at the time, and I go, you're gonna go with a rookie or a young guy, And I go, I think I can really help. And because he had Danny A. Bramerwitz, it's going to be his offensive coordinator and he's like yeah, he goes, We're just gonna go. And so that's that's when I ended up going to San Diego with Kevin Gilbride and and uh his rookie coach thing, and that was that was interesting and it so.

You're with Gilbride.

You're with Gilbride.

Wow is only one year of head coaching? Yea, yeah yeah meow and stand al frees endured anyways. Uh so we made it through that. But then all of a sudden, Stan goes down with that concussion or whatever, and I get the start against New Orleans and and it was going to be against Ditka and that was kind of rewarding Chase. That was really love it. Yeah.

Wow is only one year of head coaching? Yea, yeah yeah meow and stand al frees endured anyways. Uh so we made it through that. But then all of a sudden, Stan goes down with that concussion or whatever, and I get the start against New Orleans and and it was going to be against Ditka and that was kind of rewarding Chase. That was really love it. Yeah.

Yeah, like I can imagine saying, hey, we're gonna go with somebody else and then we come in and able to get the win. Well, man like, it was truly an honor and a pleasure to be able to chat with you.

Yeah, like I can imagine saying, hey, we're gonna go with somebody else and then we come in and able to get the win. Well, man like, it was truly an honor and a pleasure to be able to chat with you.

Your your wealth of information.

Your your wealth of information.

I'm sure we could continue talking, but some of these stories that you're telling and some of these things you're bringing up just we all appreciate you everything you've done for the Saints organization, everything you continue to do for the Saints organization. And if you're listening out there, go buy bitcoin, Hoda, get some big kudet. Thanks brother, Thank you, Chase.

I'm sure we could continue talking, but some of these stories that you're telling and some of these things you're bringing up just we all appreciate you everything you've done for the Saints organization, everything you continue to do for the Saints organization. And if you're listening out there, go buy bitcoin, Hoda, get some big kudet. Thanks brother, Thank you, Chase.

Thanks for tuning in to going along with Chase Daniel. Catch every episode on New Orleans Saints dot com, the Saints Mobile app presented by Verizon. Seoning a xmsapp, or wherever you listen to your podcast

Thanks for tuning in to going along with Chase Daniel. Catch every episode on New Orleans Saints dot com, the Saints Mobile app presented by Verizon. Seoning a xmsapp, or wherever you listen to your podcast