Ep. 30: Koe Wetzel on Noodling, Jail, and Being the Black Cat

Published Jul 23, 2024, 9:00 AM

This week Reid and Dan Isbell host genre-bending artist Koe Wetzel out in God's Country. The guys share their What Ya Mad At stories of the week and seem to have a common theme, which is hating on certain vehicles. Koe spills the beans on his best arrest story, the ins and outs of catfish noodling, and how they all share a love for big deer. Reid and Dan fanboy over Koe's new album "9 Lives" and have had it on repeat ever since they recorded this episode.

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Known as The Brothers Hunt, where we take a weekly drive to the intersection of country music and the good old outdoors, two things that go together, like football in the Great State of Texas.

Or water Burger and Jail or Burger. Produced by Meat Eater and on our podcasts Cole Wetzel Smells Good, Smells Good, Great record out the Record's Great, Tough Texas. Cool cat man, but can also cool black cat, black cat with none lives, can also swing golf.

Club, can swing golf club, can shoot a boat. I didn't I thought he was gonna look like be dressed tougher. Came in here looking like a golfer man?

Did he? Is that what golf people look like? Had like tough, tough, tough golf guy. It wouldn't know.

If he goes up there and shoots, like shoots seventy five on you. Yeah, that's impressive the way he's built, and like if I don't know how good of a golfer he is, but nine lives, New records, out Man, Cool stories. He's a hunter's kill big deer fished in the bast Master Classic. Just a cool cat great stories. Country boy doesn't have to put on this family guy, you know, kind of right in his ways, you know, trying to be a little bit more uh, civil in his actions as a as a grown man. Appreciate that the music's great, so keep it coming. Yeah, this this record's crazy. Go go check it out. It really is cool. Feels like there's there's no bounce to it. It just does what he wants to do.

And thanks for checking us out. I'll be sure and smash that like and subscribe, smash that whatever, hit that subscribe button and go follow you boys on whatever you like to look at on your phone. Tuesday morning, jeez, I got my I told Jordan. I was like, hey, next time, maybe we should This is when you were not here and Coe beat us here and was sitting on the couch ready for when I walked in. I was like, maybe next time we should get the label of the coffee cups on the other side. Or she was like, maybe you should hold it with your left hand because you're supposed to drink your coffee with your non dominant hands so you can react with your domina. I don't know that's a real thing. No, she totally made it up a Wikipedia, So we make stuff up on here all the time. I was like, or just maybe put it on both sides. You don't want to try to? Can we start this today?

You started?

Okay? So one of my favorite pastimes is to like tell a little lie in a room and watch it just like spread. Yeah. So my new one that I started doing is that I'm doing a thing called warm plunging right instead of it's it's so what warm plunging does like showers up your vessels and it really gets your blood flowing for them. You'll notice if you have a good reddish huge to your skin, your face, you're really doing a correct warm plush. Just try it, Just take a lot of show.

You know.

It's called warm plunge. Everybody's doing it right.

I've been been doing it forever.

You've been doing my whole life. Yeah, still alive. It's amazing. Not live, man. We got a Texan on the couch this morning. Loves to fish, loves to noodle some catfish billboard chart topping, a genre disruptor, as it's been said, like to see that uh co Wetzel is.

In God's country with us? Can we give a rent of falls for coke. Hey did your parents?

Was like, lets mean coal and they're like, no, take the l out, just.

Cold, No, my oldyll And then I was like, I still have an ant that calls me cold, but really it was always cold, like David Allen co and uh, it's changed the c to a K.

I feel that another artist I already told him this, and another artist that walked in here smelling like a million dollars. The guys happen. The guy smells smell honestly like something happens.

How are you thirty one?

Yeah, something happens when you hit thirty. You're like, Man, I think I don't want to stink anymore. I want to I think I want people to think.

I'm I told him I didn't go to the red door last night. I actually got some sleep.

Woke up.

We're gonna we're gonna talk about Bro. You fished in the pro Am bast Master Classic. I'm so jealous of that, dude.

Did you fish with Mattie Wong? Did you learn anything I did? Uh? He throws a drop shot a lot, and I hardly ever fish a drop shot.

What do you fish with?

Oh?

Usually Texas rig or swim baits or I love top Water, top water frogs.

A Southern fish. Yeah, it sounds like you're a bank like, Yeah, put it on.

He's got a world tour coming up, new album out, Nine Lives, which is a damn banger.

Dude, don't get me started. I'll talk the whole fifty minutes on that. You're gonna stream it, but uh, but first we're gonna start it off like we've been starting it off. Mad. Just tell us what it is.

What's manner?

Is it?

You in lost Kids?

Might be your boss man or your neighbors cat. Just tell us what your mad?

New guy raised up there like swinging his head.

What you uh? What's what's egging you this time? Mais? Dude, Josh, I hate we might have a theme here this morning. I'm just saying, dude, why do they exist?

Bro? Is anybody ever loved masdom? This?

And let me show you? Is that usually the one where I've got the spoiler and I videoed it. I videoed it so that y'all would know that I wasn't lying because somebody, man, you just look too big. Stories you're a liar. No, dude, I'm not true. Let me ask you this. Is it illegal to have blinking lights on your car like Papa. I mean, I would think unless you're an official lawman, check this monsdam mianda out right here? See those would you pull out of the way if that was behind you? That undercovered? So you don't know he come, he ran upon me with blinking lights. Show the camera that's legit blink there's a there's a legit blinking camera. I hope is slices played in there anyway. So I'm like, oh, man, must be a volunteer fire apartment guy. Don't know why being a this is like an undercover cool guy. I pulled out of the way. This something bitch just goes and it slows down. I was like, bro Co is on the count right now. I had to buy some golf clothes this morning. It took me a little bit longer. You didn't go to pick there. Got them that's got him down, got him down, three twenty five set of wedges. I had plenty. I saw her at like it wasn't even eight o'clock yet. I mean, there was plenty of time. And so like you know, I'm trying to be here about nine and everything, and and this mins to me comes.

It sounds like you're not mad at Masama. It sounds like you're mad at the guy driving the mazamyada this morning.

It's the same thing. It's the same thing.

Yeah, I guess he drives. Is that person unfollowed dude.

I'm gonna be honest with you. Just unfollowed and don't post. Don't don't at me, dude. And people that drive them, yeah boo. Not a good look for the pot this morning. By the way, Cole was literally here way before both. I'm just saying, it's all good. The smaller of the car. You know what they say.

You said it not me, brother, right, go where you're mad at.

I wasn't mad this morning, wasn't mad. I woke up feeling great, kissed my kids, got in the true uck, started driving, and I was like, man, it's something I could be mad at this morning. And then I was like, man, maybe it's cyber trucks. Maybe.

I was like, maybe it's cyber trucks, but like, I don't really know why I'm at. And then it like it was like a god thing because I was driving on sixty five and I saw one drive and this is the truth, this is sixty five South. Because I was actually gonna say, like, I can't say it. I saw one, it didn't but then I actually saw one.

I think it's a I think it's disrespecting trucks to call that thing a truck, Like, I think it's a disrespect to like the traditional truck bed. You know what I'm saying, Like, like, I love trucks, man, and I don't love that thing, don't.

I don't want to drive one, just because I'll probably end up liking it.

I wish that And this is I hope. I don't hope anybody ever gets in a car wreck. And if they do that, hopefully.

They But I wish slow. I just wish that every time I see one, I wish the wheels would fall off or something like something would happen, because it's so supposed to be so you know, like durable and understrust. You know, they're like hitting them with baseball bats and stuff.

Oh, that's a tough truck.

If you're ever if you're ever stuck in war and somebody shooting on horseback, you're in the right vehicle.

Yeah, cyber trucks, just call them cyber boxes or something like. Don't call them a truck. It's not a truck. I just wish they looked a little like cooler to me, it's just very It's just a man speaking, which my truck is sparked in the middle of everything. So if anybody needs to move, just hit me for your keys. What you what you mad at? You to be mad at anything.

I'm still mad at the Dallas Mavericks, me too.

And and if we're gonna go that far, I'm I'm still mad at the Dallas Cowboys. Just just throw it all the way up every morning, you know, Like I said, you know, my routine going.

And like, dude, they got smoked.

It was so bad. I was, you know, I stopped watch like halfway through the fourth quarter. I was just like, its ridiculous.

You know. Through Boston's good team, man, they are.

They're really good. And the maps are great, We're great.

But just we got to the finals, it's like we just forgot how to play defense. Yeah, couldn't get anything to fall.

It was just it was terrible.

They looked tired, if you want to know. To me, like Luca couldn't get going really well.

Lucas pissed off every reff of the league. So we weren't gonna get Rey called anyway.

Yeah, yeah, and so it.

Was just it was this might have been the first series, like the first final series that I didn't watch. I didn't watch a game.

Really.

We were on vacation last week, so kind so much when we went.

But uh, my Bookie is super poked.

It was like, Luca, that made me because I have no money, so I'm like, yeah, yeah, I thought they I thought they would show up a little bit more. But man, Jaylen Brown, he went on.

I mean, and he's not even considered the star of that team, but then he is, I mean, hot take, He's just as good, if not better than than Kid is.

I'm not a Tatum guy, Dude, I feel like, I mean, he could show up for he showed up by Sime and honestly, but I feel like he plays soft. That's where is where JB kind of feels like he got that dog get him a little more, you know what I'm saying. But yeah, Luca, man geez, get.

It together down, Kyrie, he's just that Boston curse. I just think he'll never like get over that Boston lucky and everything. I was just like, come on, we got to be playing the Celtics in the finals.

But uh, you're a sports guy. You played played the linebacker at Carlton. Where was that is that in Texas?

Yeah?

So it's just south of fourth. Uh it was Division two whenever I went, nowother d one. But yeah, it's just a it's a cowboy talent. So it's it's more of a rodeo school pretty much. It's a branch off of Texas A and M and Yeah. So everybody always says that the drinking team has a rodeo problem, and that goes that goes with the football team as well. You know, drin a rodeo like Blue Mountain State. It's like Blue Mountain State, but with a bunch of cowboys and cowgirls. Oh dude, that's that's that's why I got kicked out of school. You can play a little football, absolutely, but you know, in Texas, football is life. So yeah, you know you can get away with filling a couple of classes and still being able.

To play for sure. Man, Yeah, I know that. How close is that team to where you grew up?

Oh it's around four hours from where I grew up.

So it was Uh, I had some scholarships to play you know, baseball and football kind of around where I grew up, but I kind of wanted to get away from home and and uh be away for a little bit so to throw out and uh started playing music out there, and.

You're here in college is when you kind of started.

Yeah, I mean I grew up playing like through high school and stuff, but with the band and everything, it all started in college.

When was like, what was your first your first memory of music?

Oh?

Man, I mean I grew up my mom she sang and did all that too, So I mean I was always around live bands and stuff like that.

Kind of stuff.

Did she seeing She do covers just.

Like a bunch of old like Tanya Tucker, Patsy Klin, Like she played like old like opry houses and stuff with a bunch of old folks, Like like on the weekends you just go and play like two hour sets and just covers and stuff like that.

So oh yeah, jump yeah. I was a little head, a kid just running up and down the aus.

It's fun, man, it was great. It was a lot of fun. Do you feel like when when the day look and I know it's never coming, right, I know the day is never coming. But let's say there is this happens to be this day where you hit the brakes a little bit and put a little settle down in your blood. Do you feel like you'll push your kids to play football?

Really? Absolutely?

That's an interesting answer.

Like I said, it was like I'm from Texas, so like I feel like it's just bread into it for some reason.

Yeah, Dave, you gotta play you gotta play football.

See, I played my entire you know, youth and growing up in high school and I had some had some little looks, uh, but I ended up playing music instead and kind of got a scholarship for that. But I I wanted to be done.

Man.

I just you know how how like it's like your days even in the summer go to like six o'clock at.

Absolutely yeah, I don't. I mean, and I say that, but like I mean, if they want to do something else, yeah for sure. And my dad was never like super hard on me to be like you know, but I mean I loved it, you know, and and you know everything that it taught me and stuff. So I mean I'm gonna push them towards it a little bit. But I mean, if they decided that's not what they want to do, then I'm not gonna be the dad like, you're.

Gonna do this?

Is your back hurt right now?

Oh my god, that my knees. Yeah, it was like, oh, football is great.

We had Craig Morgan on yesterday and he was talking about kind of the same it's very parallel with with the army. He was saying the same thing. He was like, and now I asked him, I said, well, would you are you gonna encourage your kids to go to the army because he's like, I mean, he's like red, white and blue dude big time. And he was like, no, I don't want him to do it at all. And so it's interesting to me with people who have passions as to whether or not. But he ended up saying if I could go back and say do it all over again, I would tell him, yeah, absolutely go into the army because you I mean you you know, it's like there is a there's something weird that happens in sports, like a feeling of camaraderie that I don't feel like comes from anything else.

Oh for sure, it's it's going to war with your brothers. The type of shit, you know, tinks you a lot about life, honestly, and just I don't know it's a it's a lot of fun, man, it's a it'll be out there. And it was always controlled violence for me. It was like whenever I was pissed off and mad, I know that I get out there and just get away with anything I wanted to.

You know, So you think you got CTE.

Oh but as crazy as I am, probably, but I don't know. I think that just him. I think that just want to be awzel. But but no, I mean, I don't know if people see CTE know that they had, so I might have it.

Honest, I can't believe we're actually about it, kind about it. It's a funny conversation. Then I definitely have it. Oh, my brain's mush. Let's get into hunting a little bit. Yeah, did you did you grow up hunting where like around your spot where you grew up?

Yeah, so I grew up hunting, you know. Ever since it's just been passed down from generation generation.

Come up.

You know, my family didn't have a whole lot of money, so my grandparents and all that, you know, it was like, oh, we ate, you know, you know, we hunted to eat and everything like that. And but yeah, it was always just a family tradition and stuff and grew up around the land that that I own today. It's been in our families just like the nineteen tens or twenties.

Yeah, it's uh today, Yeah he went back and basted your family. Come off, Yeah it is.

It's uh, it's it's always been growing up in the woods and in those woods specifically, and now getting to go back and and steal hunt.

It's it's a lot what kind of what kind of country is it? Is it? Because like I've hunted Texas, I've hunted kind of like south north in the northwestern.

You'll probably out like more y'all, like what actual people actually think of what rest country?

West country?

Yeah, so where I grew up is northeast Texas, so it's kind of like almost lose you on.

So it's like pine trees and thickets and stuff.

So there's a big deer in that.

Yeah, it's really good deer.

Kind of a hidden gym. Man. They take some giants out of.

There, and they uh, they had that thirteen inch ll like whenever I was like ten or eleven, they used to it if it had horns kill and all the rednecks where I grew up, you know, they wouldn't let anything pass. And uh so they passed the thirteen inch roll and everybody's so pissed off about it. And then five or six years later, everybody starts killing his master.

Dear.

I'm like, oh, great idea.

I was like to actually know what they're talking about.

Yeah, it's uh, it's it's always been in the family, man, It's it's uh. We take a family trip every year, get all the cousins and h uncles and everybody together and and you know, teaching other generations. I don't have any kids, but my cousins kids, and I mean hopefully our grandpa is still around and we get to throw him up in the stand. I got to hunt with him this.

Year and he's eighty two. Yeah.

So it's the stories we get to we're still creating is a lot of fun, you know, stories that I'll remember forever, and still getting to make new ones.

It's so it's great.

Yeah, man, that's awesome. Keep it, keep it in the family.

I bet I bet it.

Uh might get a little wild on there about ten o'clock. Absolutely, when the kids put their iPads up, the Wetzels, the Wetzels, let's get wild for sure.

What's you're like, if if there was a season, if if one season could be all year long, what would it be for like, if you could pick it.

Probably just bow hunting both season.

For me.

I'm I'm a avid bow hunter. I have been since I was like eight years old. I got my first bow when I was like eight and then, Uh, I didn't kill my first year with the bows. I was like eleven or ten or eleven or twelve and then uh. But you know now I'll hardly ever pick up a rifle just because I'll just eat up with it. You know, there's something about it, dude, just like it's you can't compare.

It to anything.

The highs and loads of it to me.

And that's uh. We were talking the other day about it. It's like, you know, it's a game of inches. You know, if you hit it, you know an inch or two back or an inch two four word is too high. You know, you got to be on your game while bow hunt, and I think I'll never master it. I feel like that's the best part about it is it's it's kind of like golf almost.

You know, it's what keeps bringing you back. You know, you always want to, uh, perfect it.

But it's one of those that, yeah, if I ever do perfect it, then I'll just stop doing it.

Yeah, yeah, I know about that. I showed a deer last year in Kansas and I hit him perfect. I thought i'd hit him perfect. Showed up three days or yeah, three days later with a hole in his side, right, Well the lungs should be oh yeah, dude, but uh but he was. He was alive and will and and that's.

Yeah for sure.

It's it's happened to me, you know, too many times to count, and it'll probably happen again. But it's just I don't know, that's what keeps bringing you back.

Oh yeah for sure. So you're a noodler though too. Though.

I was going to show you my my new.

Really for what you just got out of the water.

Yeah, yeah, it was like two three days and three or four days ago. Big was that.

Oh we had a scale that went it went to fifty and it wouldn't read on wouldn't read on it. I call one a couple of weeks ago that was like fifty five probably, and she was bigger than this. So we we just said it was around sixty, little over sixty.

Here's here's my thing, man, Like you play guitar has got fresh scars scar up like scars from a cat.

My tattoo is gonna be pissed. I was wondering does that effect that it is? Honestly it does a little bit.

But I get them touched up here now.

And so I mean you make your living with you know, writing songs and playing music, Like, do you ever think because that's that's my thing, dude, Like mom didn't raise no bitch. You know what I'm saying. I'll go good, I'll do it. If we get put in the position, I'll swim down there and stick my hands out in a bucket or whatever y'all put them things in. But here's my thing, the concrete box. And this was the This was the description to me, was that nothing that can really harm you can live like live under fresh one right, Like poisonous steaks don't live under fresh They may be down.

There, yeah, and they have to have oxygen exactly.

And and even but man, I see some snapping turtles, Yeah, snapping turtler bro I never even thought about that, dude. What I ain't never thought about sticking your hand down there to get a.

Catfish and by this guy plays guitar with his.

Hands and still goes down there and does that.

I gotta make sure though, so we're good.

Oh count of what insure?

Oh pull Anthony Kim and I live off that money for the for a little while.

Do you go down there and make sure anybody we're talking about cafish. That'd be a per way, that'd be a perfect insurance scam, though. Hell, like I swam down there and chained up some giant snapping turtler, and then you went down there and it beat your hand off, and you for something. Do you go down there and like you feel around to make sure they're a fishing in there? First? Are you built?

Like?

What?

What is?

What's so?

So?

In Texas you can't like in Alabama, Like whenever I fish with Hannah and Jeff Barron and all those, all those people like they have boxes. You can set out boxes and habitat for him to go in and and lay their eggs and stuff. But in Texas you can't do that. So for us, it's like concrete walls and boat ramps and stuff like that. So clay banks and so we'll just go in and get whacked. And usually it's the male that hit you first, and then we'll grab him out and the females usually in the back, just sitting there laying and she's usually not happy.

Whenever you go in there.

Probably not have you had any just like kind of sketchy things go down since you've been doing this, Like, oh, man, there's a cotton mount.

Yeah, yeah, whenever I caught that fifty five a couple of weeks ago, me and my brother in law, we're sitting there and we were fishing. This old boat ramp is all broke up and stuff, pretty sketchy already, know, it's all grown up around it, but it's got hell of fish in it. It's got fish everywhere in this boat rout.

Well how do you know that?

Because there's just there's so many different holes and they have like exit holes and stuff. So we have three or four people blocking holes. And then because they'll try to get out, so you need people blocking holes, and so we have them sitting there and we're trying to get this one fish out.

It's a pretty good fish.

And then you know, after about two hours or like a hell with it, Man, this fish can live to see another day, you know. And as we're getting on the pontoon. This dam cotton mouth comes out and he swims up and we've been joking all day. We were like, you know, there's a snake. There's a snake, you know, And and he's like, oh, okay, I'm like, no, for real, there's.

It's coming.

He's like what It turns around and it just kind of like comes up at it. He's like, dude, he's a pretty He's about by my size, maybe a little bit bigger.

The snake.

At the top of that pontoon, you know, sits off, sits off the water.

That a jumped dude. He was like a high jumper in the Olympics. Bro, I have never seen somebody get into boat that quick. He dropped up quick, dude.

It was Yeah, that was pretty sketchy, but.

I've told the story a thousand times. We have a friend that gigged one one time from the front of a canoe and from the hit with a twenty two. It was going with this nasty split it. I'm telling you, Gideon. We were in the canoe with left hand and then like like pulled him up. Snak's heading up with like sick and was singing a Skinner song. When he did it was the most thing you've ever we were I'll never forget. I mean I still have burned. We talked about it too much anyway. Yeah, man gigging. Uh, I mean, uh, Newland dude. I don't know, man, I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know. You are you fishing for me or just it's just the adrenaline.

Yeah, if they're uh you know, if it's a smaller cat, we'll hit them. But all the big girls that we catch, he usually just throw the back because we want to catch him again.

Uh.

But yeah, it's uh, it's a drilling rush like I've got thirty minutes after I was just steal like this.

And my dad he doesn't do it.

He'll drive us around and drink his twisted teas and you know, yeah, he just he just likes to get sun burnt and talk shit. And we before I caught her, probably legit.

Ten minutes before.

I was like, you know, compared the boat season, you know, this is like it's up there with some of my funnest things doing.

He was like, okay, cool.

And then I go and I pull her out and as before I even saw I knew how big she was, and I've got this armamenter and this armamenter, and I know she's not go anywhere. I can tell how big she is. And I'm like, his biggest fish ever caught, biggest fish ever caught. And she starts going crazy, you know what. I'm sitting there fighting with him, throwing the boat and I started showing in my arm He was like, still fun, still like that.

I was like, oh yeah, absolutely. He's like, you're done.

But yeah, we uh yeah, we're around the river and I mean, I guess there's probably fishing where we're at.

I guess, but I just y'all y'all around here.

Yeah, we're from Western c and uh I mean Tennessee River runs right there, and I've had buddies behind me, but I just I really need these uh yeah little sausages. Man.

That's how we grew up close to Pickwick, and that's why like our dad fish bass tournaments and I did a little like local circuits around there, and that's how we kind of fell in love with that, which bring.

Me to my next point. Dude, I am so jealous. I'm super envious of you for getting the fish at the bat on the program.

It was insane. We what lake was it?

It was Lake Tulsa, right, yeah, it was the one, and it's right out.

It wasn't the lake that they fished and what lake? What was it? I could have told yeah, yeah, we'll get it.

But it was just north of Tulsa. It was a great small mouth, large mouth bass lake and got to fish.

Mattie Wong.

Uh they call you and like, hey, what you want to do this?

Yeah? So I followed him forever. You know.

For some reason, I just like I went and looked, Uh, I have my messages and I have non approved messages. I guess for some reason, I just clicked on it. And it was like two weeks after they had messaged me like, hey, would you want to come and do this my first ever celebrity program. And I was like absolutely yeah, And so I hit him up and they were like and it was me and uh Randy Moss and Cody Cannon from Whiskey Myers and a couple of other awesome people.

Man.

We we got to go out there and fish and have a great time.

It was It was a lot of fun. It was Moss like Randy Moss is the man. Yeah. For sure.

He fishes a lot with my buddy Jason Cohen on Lake Fork out in Texas, and so they've been buddies for a while and we've been trying to get get together and meet each other for a bit. So it was good to I got to eat lunch with him and and you know, talk fishing, and so it was it was a.

Lot of catch you big ones.

Oh. I think the biggest one we caught, you know, might have been three pounds, but we weren't going off pounds, were going off a length, and so whenever we started the pro couldn't start until I caught the celebrity, caught one that was over twelve inches. Cool, and then so within thirty minutes we had one landed. That first one we caught like right off second cast probably and it was like ten and a half.

I was like stretched this little.

Yeah for really, And so we kept on and within the first thirty minutes we had one in the boat that was right at twelve and they're like, yeah, y'all ready to go, and uh, we got after it. We caught some really good fish. Just what enough, bro, You gotta watch my dad on him slotly. Yeah, he'll stretch a crappie.

Yeah, so I'm gonna use crappie fish here.

Like I loved the bass fish a lot, but I love to eat fish and crappy is my face and damn cycle a boy, it's like my ship. And so we'll go out and I'll be sitting there and yeah.

Gave board comes up.

Like, so you say that is that I got a I got cousins that I got family lives in Lafayette, south of Lafayette, in Louisiana, they all call them.

Okay, I thought it was suck a lot. It's late.

It's it's kind of wherever you're at in Louisiana or I'm.

Going to be honest, I don't even know what you're talking about. You know. It's just a Cajun term for the proppy. Yeah, yeah, that's really cool. I don't even know that.

Man, when it comes from you from up what other I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying if somebody smoked them, I'll.

Be cool with it whatever. But yeah, you gotta film grease man. When it comes to freshwater fish, there's like crappie and brim to me, Yes, sometimes I lean crobbi. But most of the time I lead. I lean my grandma.

Her favorite you know is got them, uh, scale them, you know, cut the head off and then just suckers in the increase.

Man.

That's how, you know, eating the tail and eating everything else chips. But for me, now that I've got notre, I don't like picking around the damn bone and stuff, just like just like throwing them in there, you know.

Yeah, we ours now, honestly, but and primarily because like bro, my wife ain't gonna you know, and she catches one in the mouth over.

So yeah, even sometimes for me, I'll get I'll get a bone or something like, yeah.

It's a bad bone.

Yeah, but I do.

Like I like brown, I don't sleep on them. Don't sleep on them, little bass man.

Yeah, we've been, and I don't care who's mad at that we've been. Actually got it.

I've got a Me and Jordan have a twenty acre lake behind our house in the community we live in that's private to to our spot, and nobody fishes it.

Nobody can fish it. Oh dude, well what are we.

Doing here there?

Yeah, we could do it, but you can, like I mean, and it's not one of those places like you're gonna go catch one hundred fish, you know, like like bass, I mean you can go.

You can go wear a limited crappie or brim out pretty quick. But bass, like you gotta go. If you're gonna try to catch a seven eight, you gotta go look for it fish a while. But you're gonna catch a lot of small fish. And I was talking to a buddy of mine trying to just like grow bigger fish in that spot. We've been there for almost four years now. He was like, dude, take every fish out that's under fifteen inches, and it's like twenty five pounds per acre. My dad was like, you ain't gotta tell me twice that your dad's been out there every day. But oh yeah, but we rip out every every fish under fifteen and they've seen some bigger fish lately. No, we caught a lot. We caught some big This is the birth first year we caught like a bunch of big fish.

It's just like it's like culing deer. You know, if you if you got a you know, an older deer that's not ever gonna be more than eight point or you know, it's kind of something fucked up with it.

You know, you get in there and you take them out. But I've heard that a lot too.

We've we've on that before on private lakes, like hey, get a smaller fishing well.

Yeah, absolutely, And all you're doing is just providing more foods the bigger and less competition for those bigger.

Those bigger bass will hit the smaller ones anyway.

No doubt. But those don't sleep. Don't sleep on a little bass, man. They they taste real good. Tell me a deer story, man, tell me one of your one of your favorite, either your first deer, the big deer. Tell me a deer story.

I'll kill one.

You're legit. I can already smell it all.

Yeah, yeah we uh so I killed my biggest uh free range here this year in Illinois. Uh I just recently started on Illinois the last couple of years.

It's terrible there.

It's so bad. Yeah, county or there around Quincy.

Don't they don't get county get out? Yeah for sure, just property some crazy fans the quick stop. Yeah.

Also, I'm up for any donations you that's.

Yeah. Three big deer killed.

Eating up all your corn. We got you eating flowers in the front yard.

Uh No, so I I got this Lisa in Illinois probably two years ago with some of my buddies and they live up there. It's just south of spring Springfield. And this year it was right before the rut hit. It was the first November. We get up there and the morning hunt was. It was cold, but it was kind of shitty, you know. It didn't see a whole lot of deer, and so I move up, move up this, uh this kind of this little drawl that uh uh two creek beds coming in meeting and dude, they were like, there's two, there's two big deer in here. We had two big deer on camera to a ten point big o eight point and I'm sitting there and.

Big big masks. This is how it was.

That's the one I was looking for, right And so I've got my film guy right up above me, and he's not really he's hunted before, but he's not really like the first time we saw one, he's like throwing. I'm like, hey, he's up, you know, yeah, And so he's right up above me, he's like move around, like, dude, chill out. And it was when the Cowboys were playing the Eagles, and so I just like got it in my buying horns, kind of watching a little bit got to come dough come out, and uh, a little four point and probably ten minutes before. I don't know why, Bohn. Yeah, this is during both season. And I pissed on this tree. And I never do this.

I never pissed or you know, I usually pee in a bottle or some ship. But pissed on this tree, I just yeah, just whatever.

But anyway, the camera thing just cut off down the story to quit holding it in front of me. Anyway.

So I pissed on this tree, pee on the tree, and uh yeah, and uh and this this four point one walks up just right underneath.

This is kind of looking up and he's looking at treue like what the fuck? And no, look, I turned back.

I can like hear something and I see this stud I mean, and I'm like, don't move, don't move, and he's legit twenty yards behind us. The wind's perfect, and I'm like, yeah, that's you know, I've got the I'll send all the video too, and I'm like, don't move. I'm talking to my Carrara guy and he's just like he's not really He's looking at the four point he's not really worried about us, and so I'm freaking out because I'm thinking he's seeing us or smelling us, and he's, uh, he's comfortable. I can tell you that he's comfortable. So he's just eating a little bit. So I grabbing a bow, turn around and I.

Have how far is he right now?

He's probably thirty yards I mean just thirty yard right on top of us.

He's at that's tracked, but he's on he's tracked. He's beaming this and this.

Is like a week before the root starts, so I'm thinking, you know, they're pretty rut. So I'm thinking the two two do go out into the cornfield. I'm like, man, he's gonna he's gonna follow them. And I have this one shot. It's probably between two branches like this, and so my cameraman is on this side.

Of the tree. It's a big old oak tree, and so I have to turn around.

I finally get drawed back on him and uh, dude, I'll send one through them.

It hit the back of his lungs, you know.

But it was a little far back, but I knew quarter he was kind of quartered away from me. So but uh, looking at footage. I was like, man, you know that that's bad. That's far back. He's a dead deer. But you know we're gonna wait, So we go back. We watched the Cowboys game. We watched footage all night of it. You know, oh dude, I'm freaking deer I've ever killed.

You might feel confident about shot like.

That lead oh man.

And so we finished the Cowboys game. They get their asses kicked. So I'm like, oh man.

Something about tonight. It's a little eerie to me, right.

And so I'm just pounding bush lights just I mean, I run not a Miller light, so I have to drink bush and so I'm just I'm hammering them. And then if they're like I talked to my buddy. He thinks it's a great shot. But if we go in there, we're gonna go quiet. It was like, let's go right now. And it's been you know, seven hours, and we we get in there and it was probably on one hundred yard blood trail, and he was stiff as board. He'd been he'd been dead for a while, but again on top of him. I'll send you all the video. Yeah, it's uh, it was. It was insane, man, and finally get to hold him. And you know, Illinois deer, the bodies on him compared.

To Texas deer are just.

Experienced.

It was.

It was insane how they go up there. Yeah. Yeah, the dose look like the bucks, I mean, here them hammer.

It's like slick, dude in Tennessee, a big, a big body deer is gonna I mean sniff one eight and if you give close to two hundred, that's really big deer. But dude, the dose up there are going to ten to fifteen and the bucks pushing three.

They're they're even protein here, that's all they're doing.

You know, just cool.

We have to feed protein and taxis, you know. Yeah, so but no, it was. It was I'll never forget it for the rest of my life, you know. And hopefully I killed bigger deer, but that one for for me will always just then I.

Knew he had a great deer story. Any turkeys you ever do any of that?

Oh yeah, for sure. Man.

We uh me and my buddy Casey is in the next room. We we doubled up.

He's actually on the on the pity table. Thought some fresh air.

Uh. We doubled up. The opening day of uh Spring season this year in Texas. Uh it was. It was a badass man.

Usually, but we're usually always on the road during the turkey season, so you always usually get one good turkey honty in and then call it all for the rest of the year.

But I love chasing turkeys, man.

Yeah, I mean we get if we get one good one in, we're like, yeah, all right, back towards Yeah, that's all. That's all I need.

Like my turkey tank, My turkey tanks like this, and one one morning where they're gobbling on the roost, they fly down in front of me. I see one, you know, get get flopped bro. My turty things for and then I just I'm ready for If your season was every day, I would I'd be in.

The stand, no doubt. That's my jam. So you are you? You're living in Texas right? Yeah?

Living? Uh? I live just outside of Ford.

How often are you coming to Nashville?

Uh? Here lately, I've been a lot, been in a lot.

Are you writing up here? Are you just kind of doing?

Not? Really?

I do?

I still do right whenever I come up every now and then.

Who are you righting these songs with it? We got a chance to listen to the record and snap.

This record was mainly Gabe Simon and Amy Allen and uh Sam Harris, uh Ben Burgess, Ben Burgess.

Amy Allen too. I used to write with her back great.

Yeah, she's She's phenomenal. Uh yeah, it was.

It was kind of just like a one core of of all of us that did pretty much everything. Then I had a couple of outside rights Reconsidered by Keith Gaddis, you know, rest in Peace.

Super cool for you to cover that, Tim, you know, I was a legend.

Yeah, And so I thought, you know, Charlie Robinson coming up in Texas, he was my favorite. And Charlie uh, you know, wrote or covered a lot of his songs for his records. And I didn't know. I thought Charlie wrote that. I didn't know that was Keith Gaddis. And so after I figured it out, I was like, man, this is insane. And they passed away not too too far away from each other, and I just felt like I kind of owed it to them to put out something like Reconsidering.

You know, I hope I did it justice.

But for me, I loved uh. I loved it from the beginning. Man, Like even the this the like skiddy thing at the beginning was cool. And then it goes into this black Cat song and I'm like, man, I I'm digging this, man, like really like didn't skip anything, digging this, you know. And and I think for for me and Reed Man and we're we're just engulfed in music all the time, dude, it's so much to the point that commercial music, commercial music, that commercial country. You honestly get to a point to where you're just kind of like heard it all, sing it all, you know, and and it's and and and man, this was for me, man, it was inspiring. I loved I loved all of them. And I think for me, I just I know in songs you can either there are moments when you tell the absolute truth of your life, and there's also but don't let the truth get in the way of a good story, right Like, as storytellers we can kind of bend a little bit and half. But for me, man, the the tunes felt like I feel like I know you just from listening to the record.

Honestly, that's that's kind that's kind of how we went at this record. You know, we didn't expect to make a record. It was kind of just like a songwriting deal, and then we kept kept making songs and making songs like shit, we look back, and then we had a full record. But the way that these songs came about is, you know, gave Simon kind of deep diving into my life and past relationships and getting to know me and then just me being honest as honest as hell and more honest than I have in the past records. So that that was kind of the idea. I wanted people to to figure out who I was as a person compared to stories they've heard or what they've.

Seen on Instagram. You know. So yeah, but I'm glad you got that out of this. Is the record is uh is a real person? Oh? Ish? Yeah?

So ish yeah, yeah, I'll I'll get throll the bucket phone. Uh but yeah no, it's uh, they're all what goes like seventy thirty on that song?

All right, it feels like to me and what I loved most about this damn near normal is my Jam's that's my that's my jam man. It's got that like Chili pepper, the fray thing going on, and the melody of that verse is so smooth, man.

That's they're all great that I love the whole record.

It just feels like there's no rules, Like it feels like and I'm gonna be honest, like I haven't listened to a lot of your like your other five albums that you put out in the past, But even in your Billboard article you talked about this record felt different and these songs you wanted to do a little something different that your fans weren't used to. And bro, you, I mean, I feel like if that was the goal you you hit it. You ten wrung that thing. Because it feels like you don't you don't know what to expect on the next song, and that's what you just hit and play at the first one and letting it roll. You don't know what you're gonna get. And I was always surprised and excited to hear what was coming next because there was It just felt like there was no rules. You just did what you wanted to do throughout the record.

Dude, I'm looking at these I'm looking at like the track listing and like the bottom of the record is just as heavy as the top. I mean, it really is all the way through. Like I love running Low, I love bar song, one song is just like a party thing.

Yeah.

There just I like that vibe through the record that you did.

It almost like a lot of these songs, like it felt like you just put a mic in the middle of the room and he had a bunch of people singing with a party.

Yeah, for sure.

But it doesn't feel like a record where a guy's trying to sound tough. It just feels like a guy this is my life, Like take it how you want to. There's even a line of there's like put some respect on my name. I'm like, bro, I'm here on this cat. Last outlogude like bold bold in the sense of just going dude, I'm the last outlog.

Do you feel like that in certain ways? Yeah, kind of.

But I feel like outlaw these days is kind of it can be whatever, you know, in a sense, it can be whatever it is. It's not the word outlaw is not what it was twenty years or thirty years ago, you know what I mean. I mean, yeah, exactly, That's what I'm saying. So like today's outlaw is completely different than what it was back then. So uh, maybe in my world maybe I am you know, so I don't know, you know, it's just kind of it's how however, you look at what outlaw means.

To you in jail.

I think I lost count after three, really yeah, I think three or four, maybe five, I don't know.

See, occasionally I fall into this thought process of like not anymore, sorry, not anymore. But back in the day, I was like, man, maybe I could sell some drugs because I really need some money. Man, some people selling drugs make them law.

Whatever.

You fall on hard times, man, he kind of it's kind of hard stuff. Yeah, crazy, Yeah, nothing, nothing crazy.

I have a couple of guys, yeah, and I need grit Bro. But then I always think about like jail, and I'm like.

Jail is not fun. Man.

I think the most time I've ever spent was like three days in there, and and that was way more than.

I wanted to be there. You got a jail story for us, Oh yeah, so time.

So this is like about this is the third or fourth time i'd been, so I know, I know it was in Necadoches and I wanted Waterburger really bad for some reason. And we're staying at this hotel and the closest one is like two or three miles away. There's no ubers. Just like four in the morning. So I'm like, you know what, fucking I want to walk to Waterburger. And I get all the way to Waterburger and I'm looking, I'm trying to cross the street, you know, And I start walking. As soon as as soon as I did, the red and Blues turned on.

I was like, ship, you did cross the street.

It was like a four lane highway. It was.

The road.

This is like sixty.

And so the cop pulls me over in the water Burger drive through, or.

When you're walking out, does he pull you over?

And I pulls me over.

I'm sorry, please walk to the side of the road.

You please, Will you stumble over to the side of place.

Lean to the rights, so sway yourself over there.

And so I'm like, dude, I just got done playing at Benita Creek, and you know, he goes, no, I know who you are.

I know what's going on. It's like, but you're in no state.

And I was like, dude, please just take me back to the He's like he's like, no, no, it's not gonna happen to night. And uh So we get to the jail and it's like the old school with the bars you can hang your arms over and ship and so I'm just sitting there and I learned this hack. You know, if you want to make a pillow, get you a couple of rows of toilet paper. And so I was like, and there there are already two rows of toilet papers. But I was just like, hey, there's.

No toilet paper in here. I need some toilet paper. So they bring me a row.

I was like, all right, bet So I was stacked my three rolls of toilet paper up out wake up a couple of hours later, and thank god. The owner of the place that I had played was the Bells bandsman, the private DETECTI yeah, so yeah, pulled up and by eight o'clock I was out. I was like and as I'm walking out, they had printed out my bugshot and I signed.

It for him and stuff.

It was yeah, it was cool, but my mom didn't think it was really all that cool. And this is I mean, this is twenty seventeen eighteen. But that was the last time I went to jail. Yeah, so yeah, So after that, after that little escapade, I was like, yeah, I'm done, I'm done.

Going ahead, jail man.

That's not really like a yeah, yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't fighting off people for you know, some commentary or anything. But you know, like, but that was That was probably my easiest little jail stuff that I have.

I've been in a drunk team before and I wasn't even drunk. Oh that's the worst I a drunk tech. I've been locked out the well. We got a find outside of this this bar and we were just defending a guy that worked at the bar. When I played a lot of clubs all over the place, and they chunked us in there, and I was like, a man, I ain't even drunk. We're in the same sale, dude, what do we do? Yeah, you better get us out of here. The walls the same thing bar shows up. He's like, hey, man, these two dudes just played a four hour set for twenty bucks in case.

Get there out of absolutely. Man.

I am not wild at all. I never have been. But man, music takes you to some interesting places.

Does dure to put you in some some crazy situations too.

What what you what you got coming up this year? You're doing the world You're doing a world.

Thing world tour. Yeah.

We'll start uh mid July and it'll go through uh finish up in Europe and mid mid November.

Where are you going?

First, We'll go to the Woodlands just north of Houston, start there and then actually do the wood or we'll do Morgan Walling and we'll start off with Morgan wall in that at and T Stadium, and then after that we'll start the actual tour on Friday in the Woodlands and then we're going dude, Oh, I love touring. I love being I just like going to new places, meeting new people. Uh and sleeping on a bus from me you know, rocksy Roxy to sleep and and uh, everything about tour I love.

You know.

The bad thing I hate is being gone all the time. I can see no family and friends. But you know, everybody that's on the road with us or my brothers and I always call my second family.

So we got a good group of guys.

I'm excited to play this new record on the road and see all the new fans and stuff.

So what you grow up on? What was your like music that you just that that made you want to do it.

I grew up listening to like nineties country, older country, and then uh, my dad he was still a lot of hip hop and rap.

And what was it like.

Okay stuff like that and unit oh yeah, g unit can I can? I can see you every single lyric off of your Richard I try and like, but when I get home, he'd be like, don't tell your mom we listened to that.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely, but uh.

No, just coming up from all those different kinds of genres and then put them all together and trying to create this sound that we've been making.

So do you get with any of the new stuff, like even even some of the new music. Are you just like, Man, I'm an oldiest guy and that's it?

Yeah, I mean I did.

I think that's the best thing about music is like you can income from anywhere, and you know, I always I like all kinds of genres and music. So the new stuff, you know, I do dig, But whenever I'm making and creating music, I don't like to listen to anything that's just put out because I don't want to kind of force myself into having any kind of influence from that.

Would you consider yourself more melody driven or more lyric driven?

Melody?

And to me, I mean, look it was it's mega strong lyrically too. But there's some h's some ear candy on there that that'll that will pull you in real hard.

I appreciate it. Yeah.

For me, it's always Kirk Bain said, melody first lyric second, I was huging bona fan, So yeah, I've I've always always been a melody guy.

I got a little R and B you too, that you have to because.

The Hamilton.

I used to charleron come, yeah.

Dude, he was dirty corn bread fish and collar greens. Was that the name of that ricks.

Yeah?

Yeah, man, yeah, dude, all all all that kind of stuff.

We used to play that. We have the lyrics that I'm sorry, yeah.

I don't know no more say boys on. Okay, it's a blessing. We woke up as small when we woke up and.

Yeah, killer man, that's killer, dude, that's killer. It's all my I mean that stuff. And uh man, that was some good, good music.

That was was like nineties.

Huh like late nineties, early two thousands, thousands like nineties folks.

Damn, that's great. We were raised on the same stuff.

Yeah for sure.

Uh, you got your pain hat on hair. We're gonna talk golf, man, Let's talk golf a little bit. That's one of the best things about Horn.

I feel like I was like, dude, you get to play golf.

Yes, for sure.

We yeah, we keep the we keep the clubs on the bus and pretty much. Yet we probably played three or four times a week.

Are you play were he or four times a week?

Yeah?

Well road, I mean because I mean we'll have like off days, we have three or four off days, and then usually if it's a you know, a nicer course, or of course we haven't played, we'll go and play.

Uh.

It's to me, it's the best thing about the Yeah.

For sure, once you get once you get the first couple of weeks of tour done, and then it's just routine. After that, then it's just cake, you know, it's just wake up.

Play it to nine.

Yeah, for sure, go play, especially up north you know where the weather's nice and it's not one hundred and twenty degrees outside.

It's like, why wouldn't we go out and play?

Rightyeah?

You know, yeah, this is a new found love or you've been playing your whole life.

Oh so I didn't play my whole life. I started probably I was like twenty three, Like around college, all my buddies played, and my parents won't let me play because of baseball. They're like, oh, it's gonna mess up your baseball swing. And I was like, and now just those ignorance.

But whatever I would.

Talking about if if I ever have children, if if they're going to play football, one thing they will do is play golf.

I think there's gonna be ten million kids playing golf. Oh get all right.

It's it's kind of since COVID, but now right now it feels like it's the most popular it's ever been.

You know, I was talking to Shine I got. I went and played nine by myself the other day.

Bro Dan's and strict this morning, sry, honest fault.

Anyway, I went and played nine the other day and while I was playing, I was like, well, this makes total sense. Why dudes our age love this? Right? And I mean I've played a little bit for a while, but you think about it, it's like it's just active enough that you're like, you know, doing something. It's like completely like from me. I got two kids with one on the way, and so it's like quiet out there, dude, You're you're in nature. You also get to drive something like that's not a truck and there's air, but there's wind blowing, there's snacks and like, and you're competing and it's only you're only competing against yourself, right, So like, dude, I mean it makes complete sense.

One something you can play for the rest of your life, you know.

And if you're like me, I'm competitive as hell, so like I'm uh, you know, all sports oriented and everything. So it's just one of those things like let's get the boys together, gets some cold beer, some hot dogs.

Throw it's always hot for sure, little wolf out there.

Yeah, and you get bad, but it's what you're saying too. It's like it is, it's something you can always improve it. You're never i mean your best round, but like you could always have hit that put that you didn't hit for sure, or hit that hit that.

Way of going back to the bow hunt and stuff. You know, like you never probably never gonna master it. So it's like that's what keeps keeps you coming.

Back for sure. So yeah, that's awesome. You long off the tee? Are you straight out?

Are you? I'm pretty long off the tea?

Yeah, it's uh, I've got a I've got like a little baby draw for some reason, like I've and so uh yeah, yeah, inside I love the baby inside out and left for sure. Uh no, man, I've I've I've loved I've been playing. Like I said, it's just twenty two, twenty three, and we just got done with that Pip Beach trip we were talking about earlier. Dude went out to Mono Ray and yeah, yeah, it was in Sanish Bay, Spanish Bay, and uh.

We actually didn't get it.

Get to get on Pebble Beach and yeah we we played spy Glass Spanish.

A lot of people like say spy Glasses, but yeah, that's.

What I've heard a lot, and Dude, out of all of them, Monterey, it's probably one of the nicest courses I've ever I've ever played before. The spot Glass was great, you know, a lot of fun.

Oh it's seventeen mile out there. Man, If anybody listening or gets the chance to go play any of those courses, you gotta do it.

Dude, Shore that was some fort that thing you have to sing. But it's the time of shoot for the I think those lyrics change every time we go. Hey, I wrote it, I can see whatever I want. Uh we do this thing called the One that Got Away co where it could be. I can't believe it's time for that I looked over and it said fifty five, And I was like, I gotta cut my guy off. It could be a fish, it could be a deer, it could be in your case, it could be a girl. Because you're not married.

Fine, we usually say usually guys are married, we recommend you know, it could be leave.

Yeah, Uh no for me, I'm gonna go back to deer hunting. We were down and of course my guy, my guy, we're boys are uh yeah, we were down at Yorktown.

My buddy's got a place down there in uh Town, Texas.

Yeah, Yorktown, Texas, surround Victoria, so kind of big deer country. And and before that, this was like I was probably twenty one, twenty two. You know, I hadn't killed a deer over one hundred and twenty inches in East Texas. Uh, Like we were talking about there's a big deer, but they're just you know, they're you hardly ever see them. And we're sitting there and he's already killed his He's killed a little bitty basket rack. I'm like, dude, you're crazy. You know, there's a big ass deal out here, and uh, dude, were sitting there, Dude, this deer hops the fence and comes in and I'm like, oh my god, it's probably a one deer and he's getting closer and I'm like, my buddy's like shoot him shooting. I'm like hold up, wait, and right behind him, another one jumps the fence and just probably like every other hunting story that's been sold, so much bigger. But he can vouch for me. He's probably pushing one sixty. He's just a perfect main frame, ten tall times masks wide. I was like, oh yeah, and just I thought I was gonna have a heart attack.

Dude. I was just freaking out and we didn't have.

It was We're in a pop up blind that was set up under a tree for some reason, and we're pretty much in his granddad's backyard and dude, this sucker gets in into like one hundred yards and I just instead of just I don't know what I did. I got down on one knee. I was trying to rest it, and then I was going like yeah, and he's got he's filming it, and dude, he turns around and looks at us, and when he looked at us, I'm just like, holy shit, gotcha, And dude, I pulled the trigger and I just give my haircut off the back, dude, just barely off the back. I was like, I think I hear him, you like you hit him, but he is, he is doing just fine. And I and he he ran away for another two hundred yards and just seen him run away.

And that was.

Forever, dude, I'm telling you, man, he was so big and still to this day it probably would have been my my on orbo would have been my biggest.

Year one hundred and sixties. That's a beat. That's a mass, but it's especially a big deer when from your state.

Whatever. Yeah, that's the one that got away.

Let's do a favorite greatest slash favorite song for you. It could be anything. M hm, you got one on your mind?

Yeah, probably the Bottom by Waylam Payne. Do I think Aaron Lewis cut it and Charlie I first started it by Charlie Robinson. I think it was on his Good Times record and then I'm pretty sure Aaron Lewis cut it.

Cool but.

Dude, yeah, he's he's been my Texas guy forever and uh the hell of a songwriter and everything he did for Texas music and music in general and stuff. And and him passing away. It was it was pretty rough.

You know. Me I knew him a little bit, but not as much as Uh.

He wasn't very old, was he.

He was in his fifties and early fifties. Oh man, it was just way too soon. And you know it was, uh, it was kind of heartbreak for me. But you know, feeling that way by somebody that I didn't know personally, you know, but just for what he did for with his music and stuff to me, and uh, you know it was I don't know the bottom man, it's a it's a song and listen.

Yeah, man, my helped me out on the on the cos it was like, uh, Mary Jane, so.

My life, that's right castle me Ego took my friend.

Then you took your sheet all down the room we always do of all the things I lost, all.

Losing you.

Dude, bro, you're cool as hell.

Man. Can we go write a song or.

Kill a deer catch a fish together?

Man, I'm down with both. Man's what's the light it out? One day this or one weekend. It's this winter, man, we'll go hunting and take some turns.

I'm glad early, so I'm glad.

I'm glad you're in the national scene.

Man.

I appreciate that you've kind of made the jump from the text thing and coming over and doing the thing.

You're you're killing it. Excited about this album and what it's going.

To do for you and uh and these tunes. Man, it's a great project.

Keep telling your truth. Man, it's important, you know. I mean, I honestly, there's not a lot of it that I can just mega relate to because you know, I'm pretty cook. I got a couple of kids. I gotta keep it clean these days, you know. But but man, it is a it's a nice uh. It's a nice look at your life, and it's done poetically and it's done uh melodically, and uh, I appreciate what it does uh for music. So so keep doing it all.

Right, Well man, thank you all so much again.

Un pleasure man, thank you. Nine Lives is out now, go check it out, go stream it. Are you the black Cat? We will call you black Cat.

I'm the black Cat only whatever I'm on the poker table or the h or the blackjack take.

Can I put you in my phone?

It's black absolutely Cole black Cat.

Again, thanks for hanging out with guys Co whistle Go stream the album Do Super Cool.

Hope you'll enjord it. We'll catch you next time.

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