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Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought to you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants. We welcome in a front of the program. He's been with us many years now now from NFL dot Com, the one and only Eric at Home. Eric, what's going on, man?

Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought to you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants. We welcome in a front of the program. He's been with us many years now now from NFL dot Com, the one and only Eric at Home. Eric, what's going on, man?

I'm doing all right?

I'm doing all right?

Man, Yeah, I'm licking my wounds from the NCAA tournament.

Man, Yeah, I'm licking my wounds from the NCAA tournament.

Shifting back to full time draft.

Shifting back to full time draft.

Mode now and uh yeah, what do we got five six weeks left?

Mode now and uh yeah, what do we got five six weeks left?

Things coming pretty soon here.

Things coming pretty soon here.

All right?

All right?

So you got a mock draft coming up next week. We will we will touch in that briefly at the end. It's still in process, so we're not gonna, you know, to get get too deep. But your top one hundred, which I always find a little bit more fun than mock draft because mock drafts you're kind of predicting. Top one hundreds really tell you what you think. Yeah, and I thought it was really interesting how you stack these guys, and we're somewhat similar because I want to start with the quarterbacks because obviously the Giants right now don't really have one, and that's kind of an important position.

So you got a mock draft coming up next week. We will we will touch in that briefly at the end. It's still in process, so we're not gonna, you know, to get get too deep. But your top one hundred, which I always find a little bit more fun than mock draft because mock drafts you're kind of predicting. Top one hundreds really tell you what you think. Yeah, and I thought it was really interesting how you stack these guys, and we're somewhat similar because I want to start with the quarterbacks because obviously the Giants right now don't really have one, and that's kind of an important position.

In the National Football League if the fans didn't realize that. So I think it's interesting you have cam Ward around ten.

In the National Football League if the fans didn't realize that. So I think it's interesting you have cam Ward around ten.

I don't have my full stacked on yet, but I think that's probably where I'll have him, maybe maybe around seven or eight something like that. But you have a big, big distance between him and and kind of the next group. So you have should War at number thirty five and then we'll kind of go through the rest of the guys. Why do you have cam Ward's multiple tiers ahead of kind of the next quarterback in your group.

I don't have my full stacked on yet, but I think that's probably where I'll have him, maybe maybe around seven or eight something like that. But you have a big, big distance between him and and kind of the next group. So you have should War at number thirty five and then we'll kind of go through the rest of the guys. Why do you have cam Ward's multiple tiers ahead of kind of the next quarterback in your group.

Yeah, I think that there's a lot to like about Ward.

Yeah, I think that there's a lot to like about Ward.

I don't know that there's a lot to love in a normal year, Like if I was stacking just this entire group against last year's quarterback group, I think I would probably have had you know, are now granted they went what eighth, tenth, and eleventh off the bard or twelfth or whatever. You know, there was quarterbacks that went, you know, in that range. But I think I had guys like Bo Nix and Michael Pennix in that late first to early second round range, and I suspect that I would be slotting Wards somewhere in that same kind of mix. You know, this is a year where the top ten there's a few really fascinating players, but but not that many great ones. So actually Ward kinda slid up a little bit because of that, Ashton Genti slid up a little bit, you know, other guys like that.

I don't know that there's a lot to love in a normal year, Like if I was stacking just this entire group against last year's quarterback group, I think I would probably have had you know, are now granted they went what eighth, tenth, and eleventh off the bard or twelfth or whatever. You know, there was quarterbacks that went, you know, in that range. But I think I had guys like Bo Nix and Michael Pennix in that late first to early second round range, and I suspect that I would be slotting Wards somewhere in that same kind of mix. You know, this is a year where the top ten there's a few really fascinating players, but but not that many great ones. So actually Ward kinda slid up a little bit because of that, Ashton Genti slid up a little bit, you know, other guys like that.

This isn't a typical year in my opinion.

This isn't a typical year in my opinion.

But to circle back to your actual question, why is there a fairly big gap.

But to circle back to your actual question, why is there a fairly big gap.

Between the two?

Between the two?

I think it comes down to physical traits. And I hate to be so sort of cut and dry about it, but I think, you Knowdurs I think has average traits and I and I actually like parts of his game quite a bit and think in the right system he could do pretty well for himself. And I wrote that in the in the Top one Hunter. But I give Ward maybe a little bit more flexibility because I think you can play him in a couple of different ways. You know, he wasn't his running ability wasn't really kind of featured at Miami, but if you saw earlier in his career, that was something that that was a bigger part of his game. Now, he's obviously matured as a pass or two and come a long way, And I just believe that he's a little bit better athlete and has a little bit better arm talent than should now Jack and Dart. You know, part of that rating, I think you said forty five is where I had him. You know, there's there's still a little bit to unpack about him. There's no question he's a talented quarterback. We've known that since high school.

I think it comes down to physical traits. And I hate to be so sort of cut and dry about it, but I think, you Knowdurs I think has average traits and I and I actually like parts of his game quite a bit and think in the right system he could do pretty well for himself. And I wrote that in the in the Top one Hunter. But I give Ward maybe a little bit more flexibility because I think you can play him in a couple of different ways. You know, he wasn't his running ability wasn't really kind of featured at Miami, but if you saw earlier in his career, that was something that that was a bigger part of his game. Now, he's obviously matured as a pass or two and come a long way, And I just believe that he's a little bit better athlete and has a little bit better arm talent than should now Jack and Dart. You know, part of that rating, I think you said forty five is where I had him. You know, there's there's still a little bit to unpack about him. There's no question he's a talented quarterback. We've known that since high school.

He was.

He was.

It was a very decorated you know, Gatorade Player of the Year and all that stuff, and you know, Trevor Lawrence was handing him the award that he'd won. But like Lawrence, so there's just some some some question marks with him. And how will you translate from the Lane Kiffin system, which often produces great reads, first reads, open looks to what the NFL offers with just tighter windows and and.

It was a very decorated you know, Gatorade Player of the Year and all that stuff, and you know, Trevor Lawrence was handing him the award that he'd won. But like Lawrence, so there's just some some some question marks with him. And how will you translate from the Lane Kiffin system, which often produces great reads, first reads, open looks to what the NFL offers with just tighter windows and and.

Kind of a whole different speed of the game.

Kind of a whole different speed of the game.

So yeah, I mean, I'm not I think either one of any of those three have a chance, But I just think Ward has a little better chance.

So yeah, I mean, I'm not I think either one of any of those three have a chance, But I just think Ward has a little better chance.

And I'll be honest with you, I think you're next to you guys have a chance.

And I'll be honest with you, I think you're next to you guys have a chance.

You have Jalo Milroad seventy and then Tyler Shuk, who I finished watching last week or this week. I should say, you have him at number eighty two. And I gotta be honest, Shook's tape is really intriguing. I don't know how what team's gonna think about the injuries. I don't know what teams are going to think about his age and if that's going to scare teams off.

You have Jalo Milroad seventy and then Tyler Shuk, who I finished watching last week or this week. I should say, you have him at number eighty two. And I gotta be honest, Shook's tape is really intriguing. I don't know how what team's gonna think about the injuries. I don't know what teams are going to think about his age and if that's going to scare teams off.

But honestly, Eric, if you just look at the tape.

But honestly, Eric, if you just look at the tape.

The different arm angles he had, his gunslinger mentality, if you're shooting for upside here, I could see teams picking him over Sanders or Dart like that would not shock me, to be honest with you.

The different arm angles he had, his gunslinger mentality, if you're shooting for upside here, I could see teams picking him over Sanders or Dart like that would not shock me, to be honest with you.

Yeah, and you know it's not rare that we use the word upside with a player who's as old as he is.

Yeah, and you know it's not rare that we use the word upside with a player who's as old as he is.

But but I but I get your point. You know, we we you.

But but I but I get your point. You know, we we you.

Know, first he was he was Herbert's pack up at Oregon, you know, and then had to go through the injury process at Texas Tech before he really got a shot to display his talents. And I'm blanking on his name, but the old Texas Tech head coach I had him for an interview and was at the end of it, I was asking, like, you know, what, what other prospects should I be watching and and he said, this is going to be a first round quarterback one day Tyler Shuck.

Know, first he was he was Herbert's pack up at Oregon, you know, and then had to go through the injury process at Texas Tech before he really got a shot to display his talents. And I'm blanking on his name, but the old Texas Tech head coach I had him for an interview and was at the end of it, I was asking, like, you know, what, what other prospects should I be watching and and he said, this is going to be a first round quarterback one day Tyler Shuck.

And so I was like, wow, Okay, there we go.

And so I was like, wow, Okay, there we go.

Now he's probably not, I would say, but I think your point stands that that there's a talent in QB in here that some teams are going to overlook because of the age thing or because of the injury history.

Now he's probably not, I would say, but I think your point stands that that there's a talent in QB in here that some teams are going to overlook because of the age thing or because of the injury history.

But I think there's a player here who has a chance.

But I think there's a player here who has a chance.

And it's always situationally based, but you think about a team like the Giants. Let's say, you know, if Matthew Stafford was playing A and the veteran quarterback was you know, somebody else was playing B, and you know this ended up being your kind of your consolation prize. I'm not saying he couldn't come in and perform at a fairly respectable lay at level.

And it's always situationally based, but you think about a team like the Giants. Let's say, you know, if Matthew Stafford was playing A and the veteran quarterback was you know, somebody else was playing B, and you know this ended up being your kind of your consolation prize. I'm not saying he couldn't come in and perform at a fairly respectable lay at level.

I think he could.

I think he could.

And so you know, every now and then you see him just kind of force things a little bit. But boy, I really saw a maturation of his game, and I felt like, boy, if this is two years ago, I'd be a lot more excited. But there's no doubt he's got some talent.

And so you know, every now and then you see him just kind of force things a little bit. But boy, I really saw a maturation of his game, and I felt like, boy, if this is two years ago, I'd be a lot more excited. But there's no doubt he's got some talent.

No, I'm with you.

No, I'm with you.

And then mil Roe's the other project, right yeah, I think he's a legitimate You need to rest for at least one rest. You need to let him sit and learn for at least one full season, maybe two. Such a long way to go with his arm, but there's gonna be a team that sees athleticism and says, you know what, we can make something work with this and try to take the old like Jalen Hurts slow developmental route here.

And then mil Roe's the other project, right yeah, I think he's a legitimate You need to rest for at least one rest. You need to let him sit and learn for at least one full season, maybe two. Such a long way to go with his arm, but there's gonna be a team that sees athleticism and says, you know what, we can make something work with this and try to take the old like Jalen Hurts slow developmental route here.

That's it right there.

That's it right there.

I was a little surprised that he didn't run at the Combine. Now, I know there's technically no difference between running at the Combine versus the pro day, but we all know there's a little bit better, bigger buzz factor and all that, and so you know, he reportedly was telling teams that he was considering running on the eve of the Combine forty day for quarterbacks.

I was a little surprised that he didn't run at the Combine. Now, I know there's technically no difference between running at the Combine versus the pro day, but we all know there's a little bit better, bigger buzz factor and all that, and so you know, he reportedly was telling teams that he was considering running on the eve of the Combine forty day for quarterbacks.

Didn't end up doing it, But you're right, I mean, the you.

Didn't end up doing it, But you're right, I mean, the you.

Know, if we talk about cam Board having better talent than Shadur, I mean I think if you just start from like a starter kit, like what kind of physical tools do you need to play in the quarterback position. He's got those and more like, the speed is really the incredible part. And if you see him as a runner, obviously he's breathtaking at time. So there's at least a floor to what he can do. I mean, if he ends up being Justin Fields, well Justin Field's just got thirty million guaranteed from the Jets. Had been passed around a little bit. But yeah, there's still a place for the guy like this in the league, even if he doesn't fully develop as a quarterback.

Know, if we talk about cam Board having better talent than Shadur, I mean I think if you just start from like a starter kit, like what kind of physical tools do you need to play in the quarterback position. He's got those and more like, the speed is really the incredible part. And if you see him as a runner, obviously he's breathtaking at time. So there's at least a floor to what he can do. I mean, if he ends up being Justin Fields, well Justin Field's just got thirty million guaranteed from the Jets. Had been passed around a little bit. But yeah, there's still a place for the guy like this in the league, even if he doesn't fully develop as a quarterback.

Apples to oranges. But look at Joe Milton last year.

Apples to oranges. But look at Joe Milton last year.

You know, the Patriots used a throwaway sixth round pick on him. They started him one game in Week eighteen beat the Bills. And now there's a little bit of buzz as Milton as a possible you know, like consolation prize at quarterback if you can't get the guy you want. So you know, again, I'm with you. I think it's going to be much higher than that too. I think it's there's a good chances on day two. And also the interview process I think kind of opened some minds about some of his struggles last year, especially in sec play. You know, I think he had what five tds and ten interceptions in in conference play, it wasn't very good. He beat up a bad Missouri team at the time that was that didn't have a starting quarterback, but otherwise and had you know, obviously some some big games along the way against Georgia too, but you know, just didn't really put it all together. But the interview process I think has helped him. He's come across as likable and intriguing in a lot of ways. So I can't wait to see where he goes.

You know, the Patriots used a throwaway sixth round pick on him. They started him one game in Week eighteen beat the Bills. And now there's a little bit of buzz as Milton as a possible you know, like consolation prize at quarterback if you can't get the guy you want. So you know, again, I'm with you. I think it's going to be much higher than that too. I think it's there's a good chances on day two. And also the interview process I think kind of opened some minds about some of his struggles last year, especially in sec play. You know, I think he had what five tds and ten interceptions in in conference play, it wasn't very good. He beat up a bad Missouri team at the time that was that didn't have a starting quarterback, but otherwise and had you know, obviously some some big games along the way against Georgia too, but you know, just didn't really put it all together. But the interview process I think has helped him. He's come across as likable and intriguing in a lot of ways. So I can't wait to see where he goes.

I want to hit a few more spots before we do that.

I want to hit a few more spots before we do that.

Eric, you mentioned off the top to me, if you put this class together with last year's class, not just a quarterbacks, I'm talking everybody. The only two guys that I have in this class, and you know, I'll count Ashton Genty in there too, but now I'm gonna slide him aside because he's a running back and we don't pick running backs for the top ten anymore. That I would have graded with probably the top eight or nine guys last year, maybe ten or Carter and Hunter, and I think they kind of stand alone above and at three the Giants is very likely they can have access to one of those two guys, depending on what happens with the quarterbacks.

Eric, you mentioned off the top to me, if you put this class together with last year's class, not just a quarterbacks, I'm talking everybody. The only two guys that I have in this class, and you know, I'll count Ashton Genty in there too, but now I'm gonna slide him aside because he's a running back and we don't pick running backs for the top ten anymore. That I would have graded with probably the top eight or nine guys last year, maybe ten or Carter and Hunter, and I think they kind of stand alone above and at three the Giants is very likely they can have access to one of those two guys, depending on what happens with the quarterbacks.

Yeah, no doubt, and I think they should should leap at the opportunity because to me, it's obviously a risk. You don't know what Cleveland's gonna do. Technically, you don't know what Tennessee is gonna do. But if one of those two guys is still there, I think there's absolutely a case to be made for taking You know, I understand you still have Brian Branch and Caveon Thibodeau.

Yeah, no doubt, and I think they should should leap at the opportunity because to me, it's obviously a risk. You don't know what Cleveland's gonna do. Technically, you don't know what Tennessee is gonna do. But if one of those two guys is still there, I think there's absolutely a case to be made for taking You know, I understand you still have Brian Branch and Caveon Thibodeau.

But if you can get Carter and get that third rusher and kind of play.

But if you can get Carter and get that third rusher and kind of play.

Some games with these guys and move them around and get them all in the field the same time in some packages, you absolutely do it.

Some games with these guys and move them around and get them all in the field the same time in some packages, you absolutely do it.

The same thing with Hunter two. I understand that.

The same thing with Hunter two. I understand that.

They've you know, made some free agent additions and used the recent first round pick on corner. I understand they re signed, you know, one of their key guys and draft at a receiver number one last year, But you can't tell me they don't still need some help at both those positions. Again, however they define him. Is he a corner first receiver?

They've you know, made some free agent additions and used the recent first round pick on corner. I understand they re signed, you know, one of their key guys and draft at a receiver number one last year, But you can't tell me they don't still need some help at both those positions. Again, however they define him. Is he a corner first receiver?

Second?

Second?

Is he the opposite? Is he only one position? Or you know, every team seems to have a little bit different view on Hunter.

Is he the opposite? Is he only one position? Or you know, every team seems to have a little bit different view on Hunter.

So that said, I mean there's.

So that said, I mean there's.

Still some drawbacks with both. Carter's injury situation has to be monitored a little bit.

Still some drawbacks with both. Carter's injury situation has to be monitored a little bit.

You know. I think it's not a big deal, but you never know.

You know. I think it's not a big deal, but you never know.

You also have to check on because pectorals too, you know, those are things that can shoulders pecks.

You also have to check on because pectorals too, you know, those are things that can shoulders pecks.

I mean, they seem to kind of always get aggravated.

I mean, they seem to kind of always get aggravated.

And then also with Hunter, you're talking about one hundred and eighty pound guy, now, granted one who had a historic season with his playing time, but and it's responsibilities. But still, you know, there's there's a little bit of a hesitation among among draft people to use very high picks on players who have lean frames like that, so they're not perfect.

And then also with Hunter, you're talking about one hundred and eighty pound guy, now, granted one who had a historic season with his playing time, but and it's responsibilities. But still, you know, there's there's a little bit of a hesitation among among draft people to use very high picks on players who have lean frames like that, so they're not perfect.

But yes, I would say you're absolutely right.

But yes, I would say you're absolutely right.

Would I would say those two and maybe genty, who I put very close to Bjean Robinson when he came out, would be the only ones who truly were locks for the top ten.

Would I would say those two and maybe genty, who I put very close to Bjean Robinson when he came out, would be the only ones who truly were locks for the top ten.

If we're using last year's talent, and you do.

If we're using last year's talent, and you do.

Have quarter ahead of Hunter, you have quarter at one Hunter two on your big board. I have it the same way those two.

Have quarter ahead of Hunter, you have quarter at one Hunter two on your big board. I have it the same way those two.

Yeah, I mean I could see it either way. But yeah.

Yeah, I mean I could see it either way. But yeah.

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No, I'm with you, all right. So let's talk about the Edges. You know you have Carter and one. I agree.

No, I'm with you, all right. So let's talk about the Edges. You know you have Carter and one. I agree.

I think he's gonna be a really good player as long as the medicals check out. Obviously, I think edge is probably the best group in this class. You can make an argument for defensive tackle. We'll get to them next. But after you get there, I wonder what order this next group is gonna go off, because I think there are different shapes and sizes for all these guys, different issues with all these guys.

I think he's gonna be a really good player as long as the medicals check out. Obviously, I think edge is probably the best group in this class. You can make an argument for defensive tackle. We'll get to them next. But after you get there, I wonder what order this next group is gonna go off, because I think there are different shapes and sizes for all these guys, different issues with all these guys.

You know, Jollen Walker, is he an edge? Is he an off ball guy? Mike?

You know, Jollen Walker, is he an edge? Is he an off ball guy? Mike?

Mean, we know about some of the stuff people were worried about with him. Shamar Stewart, absolute lack of production, but he's an Adonis. Michael Williams, his tape last year wasn't that good, but he was dealing with injury. Donovan az Aroku Boston College, a smaller guy, but the production was fantastic. Then James Pierce, there's them off the field noise with him. I think it's gonna be really interesting to see which one of those guys fit with what team. And I could see for the reasons I just mentioned any of them, you know, slipping maybe a little bit further than people think.

Mean, we know about some of the stuff people were worried about with him. Shamar Stewart, absolute lack of production, but he's an Adonis. Michael Williams, his tape last year wasn't that good, but he was dealing with injury. Donovan az Aroku Boston College, a smaller guy, but the production was fantastic. Then James Pierce, there's them off the field noise with him. I think it's gonna be really interesting to see which one of those guys fit with what team. And I could see for the reasons I just mentioned any of them, you know, slipping maybe a little bit further than people think.

I think we're in lockstep here.

I think we're in lockstep here.

I hate to agree with you so much so often, but I think you just you set it up perfectly, which is very deep group, very exciting group. If you even you know, lump them in with the D tackles, you could argue that's the best you know, position on the in this draft class, if you will, and sheer volume that the numbers are going to be very impressive once we look one through, you know, the two hundred and fifty eighth pick or whatever. But yeah, I mean after Carter, there is some mystery. I think people are waiting for Mike hal Williams to kind of you know, they were waiting for the blowaway workout at the Combine and you know it was okay, the times were fine, but you're banking on a really young guy getting better. Like you said, the high ankle sprain, I think is what it was, off the top of my head, really did hinder him last year and isn't the same player, excuse me, green as you mentioned, even though he vehemently denied those those those allegations from Virginia and how he left that school prior to going to Marshall, still something that scouts obviously have to vet out and dig into.

I hate to agree with you so much so often, but I think you just you set it up perfectly, which is very deep group, very exciting group. If you even you know, lump them in with the D tackles, you could argue that's the best you know, position on the in this draft class, if you will, and sheer volume that the numbers are going to be very impressive once we look one through, you know, the two hundred and fifty eighth pick or whatever. But yeah, I mean after Carter, there is some mystery. I think people are waiting for Mike hal Williams to kind of you know, they were waiting for the blowaway workout at the Combine and you know it was okay, the times were fine, but you're banking on a really young guy getting better. Like you said, the high ankle sprain, I think is what it was, off the top of my head, really did hinder him last year and isn't the same player, excuse me, green as you mentioned, even though he vehemently denied those those those allegations from Virginia and how he left that school prior to going to Marshall, still something that scouts obviously have to vet out and dig into.

He's also got a frame where you're.

He's also got a frame where you're.

You know, it's not he's looking for a big edge. He's not going to work for them either, so his side for some teams too. I'm sorry for interrupting.

You know, it's not he's looking for a big edge. He's not going to work for them either, so his side for some teams too. I'm sorry for interrupting.

I apologies.

I apologies.

Yeah, I know you're fine.

Yeah, I know you're fine.

Mike, Call and Schamar definitely fit that kind of you know, broads framed guy James Pierce to a certain degree too. But yeah, it's really interesting, you know that kind of the hot name too, guy I didn't even have on my uh it's a little lower down, but Braden Swinson from Lsu was really an interesting guy. And you know, the Ohio State kids will probably end up somewhere high in round two. Lannon Jackson is generating some first round buzz too from Arkansas. But you know, I mean with all these names as rock who Also, you know there's some teams who will not draft the two hundred and forty five pound edge guy. You know, he's not going to fit their system. You know, like Dennis am Is decoordinator now in Chicago. I don't know that that's going to work out. So yeah, I mean there's it's interesting. Either it's character size production. There's some kind of like trapdoor with all these guys. And again when you know, every prospect's got something that they But I think even for a talented a group as this is, there's a there are enough sort of lingering questions as to who's edge two, who's edge three, you know, and and how high does that player go? But I suspect somewhere in the back end of the top ten, because it's not that blue chip group up top, someone's going to take a chance on Mike kell or Schamar or somebody like that.

Mike, Call and Schamar definitely fit that kind of you know, broads framed guy James Pierce to a certain degree too. But yeah, it's really interesting, you know that kind of the hot name too, guy I didn't even have on my uh it's a little lower down, but Braden Swinson from Lsu was really an interesting guy. And you know, the Ohio State kids will probably end up somewhere high in round two. Lannon Jackson is generating some first round buzz too from Arkansas. But you know, I mean with all these names as rock who Also, you know there's some teams who will not draft the two hundred and forty five pound edge guy. You know, he's not going to fit their system. You know, like Dennis am Is decoordinator now in Chicago. I don't know that that's going to work out. So yeah, I mean there's it's interesting. Either it's character size production. There's some kind of like trapdoor with all these guys. And again when you know, every prospect's got something that they But I think even for a talented a group as this is, there's a there are enough sort of lingering questions as to who's edge two, who's edge three, you know, and and how high does that player go? But I suspect somewhere in the back end of the top ten, because it's not that blue chip group up top, someone's going to take a chance on Mike kell or Schamar or somebody like that.

I suspect.

I suspect.

Now I'm with you.

Now I'm with you.

I agree, and then I think defensive tackles more interesting because I don't think it's as rich at the top.

I agree, and then I think defensive tackles more interesting because I don't think it's as rich at the top.

And I'm with the rankings.

And I'm with the rankings.

You have after a Maasmon Graham at five, and I think he's going to be a lock top ten pick. You have two guys in the twenties, Hormon and Grant, who I think will be first round picks. Then you have Walton and Owen at thirty three, Tyler Williams at forty, and then you drop all the way down to the sixties, and then you have like four guys and eight players where it's just like this huge cluster of defensive tackles. Now, the Giants have a big need here, Eric, and they select the thirty four in round two, and I think a lot of Giant fans I've been analyzing one of them, I think defensive tackle could be a sweet spot at the top round two. But I do wonder if they're gonna fall into a trap you where they're in that gap right where Grant and Harmon and maybe even Tyler Williams and Walter Nola and gone. But I don't think the rest of the guys left are gonna be worth that thirty four pick. How do you think that might work out for the Giants at thirty four looking for a defensive tackle or do you think something like edge might be a better fit for them there or a corner.

You have after a Maasmon Graham at five, and I think he's going to be a lock top ten pick. You have two guys in the twenties, Hormon and Grant, who I think will be first round picks. Then you have Walton and Owen at thirty three, Tyler Williams at forty, and then you drop all the way down to the sixties, and then you have like four guys and eight players where it's just like this huge cluster of defensive tackles. Now, the Giants have a big need here, Eric, and they select the thirty four in round two, and I think a lot of Giant fans I've been analyzing one of them, I think defensive tackle could be a sweet spot at the top round two. But I do wonder if they're gonna fall into a trap you where they're in that gap right where Grant and Harmon and maybe even Tyler Williams and Walter Nola and gone. But I don't think the rest of the guys left are gonna be worth that thirty four pick. How do you think that might work out for the Giants at thirty four looking for a defensive tackle or do you think something like edge might be a better fit for them there or a corner.

Yeah. No, you bring up a pretty good point, which is that, you know, I think if you say.

Yeah. No, you bring up a pretty good point, which is that, you know, I think if you say.

Like we're gonna take this player in round one and then swing back with this position in round two, you're obviously hoping that there's a choice there, right and somebody who you know, defensive tackles are not just I mean, not as much variants as edge, where we were talking about a minute ago, where you have two hundred forty five pound guys, you have two unreed seventy five pound guys. I don't think there's quite as much variance among the D tackles. Then again, I guess Graham is two ninety five and you know some of these guys are in the three forties. But still the point being, I just think that there's a bigger difference there, and you're probably asking them to play some four and five technique And is that the best.

Like we're gonna take this player in round one and then swing back with this position in round two, you're obviously hoping that there's a choice there, right and somebody who you know, defensive tackles are not just I mean, not as much variants as edge, where we were talking about a minute ago, where you have two hundred forty five pound guys, you have two unreed seventy five pound guys. I don't think there's quite as much variance among the D tackles. Then again, I guess Graham is two ninety five and you know some of these guys are in the three forties. But still the point being, I just think that there's a bigger difference there, and you're probably asking them to play some four and five technique And is that the best.

Thing for Walter Nolan?

Thing for Walter Nolan?

I don't know, you know, is that the you know Harmon, yes, Grant probably a little bit too similar to Lawrence, I would say in some ways. I mean just you know, body physique anyway. Yeah, so you start kind of whittling down the possibilities there and maybe there isn't.

I don't know, you know, is that the you know Harmon, yes, Grant probably a little bit too similar to Lawrence, I would say in some ways. I mean just you know, body physique anyway. Yeah, so you start kind of whittling down the possibilities there and maybe there isn't.

That perfect fit. So you know, even Graham, I mean I really liked watching him.

That perfect fit. So you know, even Graham, I mean I really liked watching him.

I thought he was a fantastic players, a little bit like Brian Burci without the injuries.

I thought he was a fantastic players, a little bit like Brian Burci without the injuries.

Where you said to yourself, I don't know why this guy's dominating as much as he is, but he is.

Where you said to yourself, I don't know why this guy's dominating as much as he is, but he is.

And I've since heard people nitpick a little bit short, arms lighter at the combine then we hoped, may not be a workout worrior. I think they either go today or the Michigan's prote is coming up soon. I forget when, but yeah, I mean there's just some little nitpicks with him too. So I'm almost wondering if he doesn't go a little later than people expect to, which could help push everything down just a little bit.

And I've since heard people nitpick a little bit short, arms lighter at the combine then we hoped, may not be a workout worrior. I think they either go today or the Michigan's prote is coming up soon. I forget when, but yeah, I mean there's just some little nitpicks with him too. So I'm almost wondering if he doesn't go a little later than people expect to, which could help push everything down just a little bit.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Yeah, the more I've watched the group, the more I have some of the same concerns you're seeing.

Yeah, the more I've watched the group, the more I have some of the same concerns you're seeing.

And I think the Giants are an interesting spot here, right because I think you automatically think, are you have dexter Lawrence se Sturinge of fifty pounds. You want to have an athletic three technique next to him, right, But at the same time, the Giants have not stopped the run for three years, so at some point you have to put a little bit more meat in there. And I was having a debate it was actually an intelligent debate on Twitter, which is shocking, I know, and someone said, it's just not worth picking a run stopping defensive tackle in the second round. And that's always been my thought that, you know, pass rush is always more valuable. But then I started looking at the last couple of Dreys. I look at how the league looks right now. I think it's swinging a little bit more towards the power running game, and I wonder, I think these big run stuffing defensive tackles are becoming more and more rare as we go a year to year. Guys just aren't as big anymore, and I think teams are going to value that more so. To me, if the guy like Tyler Williams is sitting there at thirty four, you know, has he had pass rush production in college?

And I think the Giants are an interesting spot here, right because I think you automatically think, are you have dexter Lawrence se Sturinge of fifty pounds. You want to have an athletic three technique next to him, right, But at the same time, the Giants have not stopped the run for three years, so at some point you have to put a little bit more meat in there. And I was having a debate it was actually an intelligent debate on Twitter, which is shocking, I know, and someone said, it's just not worth picking a run stopping defensive tackle in the second round. And that's always been my thought that, you know, pass rush is always more valuable. But then I started looking at the last couple of Dreys. I look at how the league looks right now. I think it's swinging a little bit more towards the power running game, and I wonder, I think these big run stuffing defensive tackles are becoming more and more rare as we go a year to year. Guys just aren't as big anymore, and I think teams are going to value that more so. To me, if the guy like Tyler Williams is sitting there at thirty four, you know, has he had pass rush production in college?

No, but he's such a good football player, and even maybe you don't. At least we haven't seen the pass rush upside yet.

No, but he's such a good football player, and even maybe you don't. At least we haven't seen the pass rush upside yet.

In terms of his collegiate career, I would have no problem picking him at thirty four, played him sixty to seventy percent of the snaps, mostly on early downs, and becoming an excellent run defending team.

In terms of his collegiate career, I would have no problem picking him at thirty four, played him sixty to seventy percent of the snaps, mostly on early downs, and becoming an excellent run defending team.

I would have no issue with that.

I would have no issue with that.

I'm wondering if you think teams are starting to swing towards that a little bit given where the league is heading.

I'm wondering if you think teams are starting to swing towards that a little bit given where the league is heading.

Yeah, and you said TYLERK Williams was the example used. Yeah, No, I mean, I think you're right. The run game is definitely cycling back into the NFL, and we're seeing it with more with the quarterbacks too. And obviously you know the number of gaps you can account for upfront and take that option away. I mean, obviously the Philadelphia Eagles, you know, that was sort of their bread and butter.

Yeah, and you said TYLERK Williams was the example used. Yeah, No, I mean, I think you're right. The run game is definitely cycling back into the NFL, and we're seeing it with more with the quarterbacks too. And obviously you know the number of gaps you can account for upfront and take that option away. I mean, obviously the Philadelphia Eagles, you know, that was sort of their bread and butter.

I mean, even with.

I mean, even with.

Two prize receivers, you saw the potency of what Barkley and Hurts could do for you and even as backups when they got the chance.

Two prize receivers, you saw the potency of what Barkley and Hurts could do for you and even as backups when they got the chance.

So you know, you think about it that way, and.

So you know, you think about it that way, and.

When you when you have one elite run defender up front, teams can work around that to a degree. If you have two, that's that's pretty tough to deal with, right, you can't double everybody. And yeah, I mean, I guess the only question I have with and maybe it's a little nitpicky with with Telly, is like he's got this big, thick frame, but he doesn't have a ton of length, you know, the height and the arm length.

When you when you have one elite run defender up front, teams can work around that to a degree. If you have two, that's that's pretty tough to deal with, right, you can't double everybody. And yeah, I mean, I guess the only question I have with and maybe it's a little nitpicky with with Telly, is like he's got this big, thick frame, but he doesn't have a ton of length, you know, the height and the arm length.

I think it could probably work.

I think it could probably work.

As a as a uh, you know, a guy just beating up guards and in the inside shoulder of the tackle and stuff, and you know, maybe that's fine. I know, typically sometimes you look for more of that that six' five guy who's in the the two eighty five to, two you, know the three ten range or something like. That but, STILL i think it would be very interesting if a team did go with that. Approach now The, eagles interestingly, enough have you Know Jordan davis And Jalen carter up, front and you, know that's a that's a pretty effective too that they've made work pretty.

As a as a uh, you know, a guy just beating up guards and in the inside shoulder of the tackle and stuff, and you know, maybe that's fine. I know, typically sometimes you look for more of that that six' five guy who's in the the two eighty five to, two you, know the three ten range or something like. That but, STILL i think it would be very interesting if a team did go with that. Approach now The, eagles interestingly, enough have you Know Jordan davis And Jalen carter up, front and you, know that's a that's a pretty effective too that they've made work pretty.

Well, yeah, yeah those guys are are pretty.

Well, yeah, yeah those guys are are pretty.

Good and then, LOOK i think, too you know you talk about kind of waiting on the defensive. Tackle there's gonna be plenty at the top of the third round, two, Right so if you don't get one at the top of the Second, like just to go through your, list you have Like Joshua farmer at seventy, two, right you Have Darius alexander at sixty, Eight Deon, walker WHO i want to like him so. BAD i love this twenty twenty three seat by just twenty white so. Rough Alfred collins is a run stuff For. Omar Norman lott is more of that upfield guy you have in ninety. Nine That giants got that compact. There so that is a position THAT i think you can still get starting caliber players into the top of round.

Good and then, LOOK i think, too you know you talk about kind of waiting on the defensive. Tackle there's gonna be plenty at the top of the third round, two, Right so if you don't get one at the top of the Second, like just to go through your, list you have Like Joshua farmer at seventy, two, right you Have Darius alexander at sixty, Eight Deon, walker WHO i want to like him so. BAD i love this twenty twenty three seat by just twenty white so. Rough Alfred collins is a run stuff For. Omar Norman lott is more of that upfield guy you have in ninety. Nine That giants got that compact. There so that is a position THAT i think you can still get starting caliber players into the top of round.

THREE i, AGREE i. AGREE i think you can be a little patient.

THREE i, AGREE i. AGREE i think you can be a little patient.

There, yeah there's gonna be a few who tempt you along the, way BUT i think unless you get somebody with unusual, traits you, know be available at your, pick unless there's something that's almost deemed a perfect fit in with either that first or second round. Pick and Again i'm saying first because theoretically they could trade down you never, know or they could move. Around but those first couple of, picks, YEAH i, WOULD i. WOULD i would lean on the side of patients BECAUSE I i still think you can find talent in this, draft there's not a huge drop off between early second and early.

There, yeah there's gonna be a few who tempt you along the, way BUT i think unless you get somebody with unusual, traits you, know be available at your, pick unless there's something that's almost deemed a perfect fit in with either that first or second round. Pick and Again i'm saying first because theoretically they could trade down you never, know or they could move. Around but those first couple of, picks, YEAH i, WOULD i. WOULD i would lean on the side of patients BECAUSE I i still think you can find talent in this, draft there's not a huge drop off between early second and early.

Fourth let's say absolutely all, right let's go to. Corner you have Well johnson in your top. Ten jihns aren't gonna plick the corner that, eye so we can skip over to the next. Group and then between picks your rankings number twenty nine and fifty, one you have six corners in, there so that that's almost thirty percent of the players in that.

Fourth let's say absolutely all, right let's go to. Corner you have Well johnson in your top. Ten jihns aren't gonna plick the corner that, eye so we can skip over to the next. Group and then between picks your rankings number twenty nine and fifty, one you have six corners in, there so that that's almost thirty percent of the players in that.

Range how do you sort through that?

Range how do you sort through that?

Stack with The Jahday, barons The Maxwell, hairstins the As, aasas The Chavon, revels The trey Amos, is The Benjamin, morrison you kind of all in that. Cluster how would you sort through that that group if you're a team picking in that you, know mid to top part of the round.

Stack with The Jahday, barons The Maxwell, hairstins the As, aasas The Chavon, revels The trey Amos, is The Benjamin, morrison you kind of all in that. Cluster how would you sort through that that group if you're a team picking in that you, know mid to top part of the round.

Two, YEAH i mean two of the names you mentioned are our major you, know injury. Consideration Chavon revel excuse me From East. CAROLINA i think could have been this Year's Quinnon mitchell had he had a full, season had he not been. Hurt, luckily the timetable's pretty favorable in him coming back and having roughly a full off season programmer close to, it you, know with with his NEXT nfl, team like By Junior, july they should be able to get him up going, again but still maybe a little behind the. Schedule morrison, too hip. Surgery you, know that's a considerable thing that the teams have to work. Through so you got to figure those two out. Obviously Travis hunter, two you got to figure out is he a corner as the? Receiver but beyond, THAT i mean you do see pretty good size in certain guys Like Will. Johnson i'm starting to THINK i might have a little higher grade on him THAN i, should but still a player that, AGAIN i guess another injury guy, too considering his time away from the.

Two, YEAH i mean two of the names you mentioned are our major you, know injury. Consideration Chavon revel excuse me From East. CAROLINA i think could have been this Year's Quinnon mitchell had he had a full, season had he not been. Hurt, luckily the timetable's pretty favorable in him coming back and having roughly a full off season programmer close to, it you, know with with his NEXT nfl, team like By Junior, july they should be able to get him up going, again but still maybe a little behind the. Schedule morrison, too hip. Surgery you, know that's a considerable thing that the teams have to work. Through so you got to figure those two out. Obviously Travis hunter, two you got to figure out is he a corner as the? Receiver but beyond, THAT i mean you do see pretty good size in certain guys Like Will. Johnson i'm starting to THINK i might have a little higher grade on him THAN i, should but still a player that, AGAIN i guess another injury guy, too considering his time away from the.

Field but.

Field but.

Speed questions long. Speed is he a four or five? Guy that's, okay but you gotta know what he.

Speed questions long. Speed is he a four or five? Guy that's, okay but you gotta know what he.

Is Jade.

Is Jade.

BARON i think there's more appreciation for him than than maybe people. Realize you, Know Maxwell harrison another guy who didn't play an entire season but did come, back which is IMPORTANT i, think and he did run at four two. EIGHT i think that pushes him into that Top i'll say thirty. FIVE i don't think he's gonna last, too you, know if he doesn't go in the first, ROUND i think he's gonna end up, going you, know somewhere in That Nate wiggans range where The ravens got hit him twenty.

BARON i think there's more appreciation for him than than maybe people. Realize you, Know Maxwell harrison another guy who didn't play an entire season but did come, back which is IMPORTANT i, think and he did run at four two. EIGHT i think that pushes him into that Top i'll say thirty. FIVE i don't think he's gonna last, too you, know if he doesn't go in the first, ROUND i think he's gonna end up, going you, know somewhere in That Nate wiggans range where The ravens got hit him twenty.

Seven something like.

Seven something like.

That you, Know thomas had a nice day one at The Senior. Bowl he's got the requisite. Length obviously you're not talking about a true speed, corner but for the press man and teams or the ones that play a high rate to cover two rerouting, receivers stuff like. THAT i could see him being very attractive to. Him SO i Like Trey amos too From Ole. Miss you, know the MORE i watched, HIM i thought he was a you, know a talented player who kind of finally crystallized all his ability and put it together a little. BIT i you, know there's some other names that have been kind of bandied. About, Obviously Darien porter's a really fascinating tools he guy who took a long time to develop. This this class could end up being really, solid if not very good of, corners or it could be slightly disappointing when we look back in three or four. Years it's hard to sort some of these guys, out BUT i think you do it first by you, know, health body sized.

That you, Know thomas had a nice day one at The Senior. Bowl he's got the requisite. Length obviously you're not talking about a true speed, corner but for the press man and teams or the ones that play a high rate to cover two rerouting, receivers stuff like. THAT i could see him being very attractive to. Him SO i Like Trey amos too From Ole. Miss you, know the MORE i watched, HIM i thought he was a you, know a talented player who kind of finally crystallized all his ability and put it together a little. BIT i you, know there's some other names that have been kind of bandied. About, Obviously Darien porter's a really fascinating tools he guy who took a long time to develop. This this class could end up being really, solid if not very good of, corners or it could be slightly disappointing when we look back in three or four. Years it's hard to sort some of these guys, out BUT i think you do it first by you, know, health body sized.

Role what are they gonna be for. Us are they a, nickel are they an outside? Corner are they a? Hybrid can they play? Safety and that's how you kind of go through the checklist.

Role what are they gonna be for. Us are they a, nickel are they an outside? Corner are they a? Hybrid can they play? Safety and that's how you kind of go through the checklist.

There who are the day two guards that you?

There who are the day two guards that you?

Like, ERIC i think The giants could still use some, help but righte are have been looking for an upgrade there long.

Like, ERIC i think The giants could still use some, help but righte are have been looking for an upgrade there long.

TERM i think the talent inside is pretty.

TERM i think the talent inside is pretty.

GOOD i, MEAN i know, people you know a lot of the disappointment of this classes tackles turning into. Guards you, know maybe not as many guys who played left or right tackle in college going to end up there in the. PROS i Suspect gray's abel will probably be off the board somewhere in the late twenties or a few teams who need centers and.

GOOD i, MEAN i know, people you know a lot of the disappointment of this classes tackles turning into. Guards you, know maybe not as many guys who played left or right tackle in college going to end up there in the. PROS i Suspect gray's abel will probably be off the board somewhere in the late twenties or a few teams who need centers and.

Guards so we'll see if he's. There he's an obvious.

Guards so we'll see if he's. There he's an obvious.

CANDIDATE i Love Tate ratliche like if you're looking for an old school kind of a new school. Too he's a better athlete THAN i think he's given credit. For but the heartbeat of That georgia offensive line when he was on the, field they were a better group BY i thought it was easy to see at, times you, know they looked a little lost with him when he got, hurt AND i really like. Him you, Know Marcus bow is an interesting. ONE i don't know THAT i would take him in round, two but round THREE i would consider, him especially if you think he could play center as. Well you, know there's always a sort of knock on just drafting pure. Guards, obviously Like COOPER bb end up being a really good pick for the for The, cowboys but they had to wait till seventy. Two you, know he was like my thirty fourth overall player or. Something so there's always a lag with, guards OR i don't, know there's not, always BUT i feel like that group can can fall behind where they should, go and so you, KNOW i mean there's still some some some really interesting players who could linger even into rounds three and.

CANDIDATE i Love Tate ratliche like if you're looking for an old school kind of a new school. Too he's a better athlete THAN i think he's given credit. For but the heartbeat of That georgia offensive line when he was on the, field they were a better group BY i thought it was easy to see at, times you, know they looked a little lost with him when he got, hurt AND i really like. Him you, Know Marcus bow is an interesting. ONE i don't know THAT i would take him in round, two but round THREE i would consider, him especially if you think he could play center as. Well you, know there's always a sort of knock on just drafting pure. Guards, obviously Like COOPER bb end up being a really good pick for the for The, cowboys but they had to wait till seventy. Two you, know he was like my thirty fourth overall player or. Something so there's always a lag with, guards OR i don't, know there's not, always BUT i feel like that group can can fall behind where they should, go and so you, KNOW i mean there's still some some some really interesting players who could linger even into rounds three and.

Four and.

Four and.

You, know again it also depends on you, know some of these these, tackles like let me think of a good, One Anthony belton maybe Or Cameron Cameron williams is probably a. Tackle but there are still a FEW i think in that in that second or third round range that may kick inside to. GUARD i think that The william And mary kid Is Charles grant is probably going to stay a. Tackle but you, know there are a few more who like The arizona Guy, SAVANAYA i could see him be and kind of a mauling right guard and you, know not Quite Will, hernandez but that's sort of a big physical dude who'll kind of get after.

You, know again it also depends on you, know some of these these, tackles like let me think of a good, One Anthony belton maybe Or Cameron Cameron williams is probably a. Tackle but there are still a FEW i think in that in that second or third round range that may kick inside to. GUARD i think that The william And mary kid Is Charles grant is probably going to stay a. Tackle but you, know there are a few more who like The arizona Guy, SAVANAYA i could see him be and kind of a mauling right guard and you, know not Quite Will, hernandez but that's sort of a big physical dude who'll kind of get after.

You all, right all, right, now let's get to the pump. Positions s herek before we say. Goodbye skill position. GUYS i don't see The giants using a day one or day two pick on a running backer tight end, specifically but they're so. DEEP i could see really good talent getting into day. Three who are some of the guys that you? Think you, know we all go home On friday night and we look at the board and The giants are picking the top round for. That you're sitting there, like all, right we got some really you, know good running backs and tight ends here that should have been picked, already but because it's such deep, groups they're still on the.

You all, right all, right, now let's get to the pump. Positions s herek before we say. Goodbye skill position. GUYS i don't see The giants using a day one or day two pick on a running backer tight end, specifically but they're so. DEEP i could see really good talent getting into day. Three who are some of the guys that you? Think you, know we all go home On friday night and we look at the board and The giants are picking the top round for. That you're sitting there, like all, right we got some really you, know good running backs and tight ends here that should have been picked, already but because it's such deep, groups they're still on the.

Board who are some of the Guys giant fan should be thinking about in that?

Board who are some of the Guys giant fan should be thinking about in that?

Spot, yeah good, question you.

Spot, yeah good, question you.

Know Terrence ferguson From, OREGON i could see dropping out of the top. Hundred really good athlete rarely took over. GAMES i felt like he was always a complimentary, piece so there's a little bit of a you, know you're left wanting a little bit more when you watch. Him but a smooth guy who could end up being a pretty decent receiver if you're looking for more of the kind of the inline blocking, TYPE i Think Mitchell evans is just a really solid tight.

Know Terrence ferguson From, OREGON i could see dropping out of the top. Hundred really good athlete rarely took over. GAMES i felt like he was always a complimentary, piece so there's a little bit of a you, know you're left wanting a little bit more when you watch. Him but a smooth guy who could end up being a pretty decent receiver if you're looking for more of the kind of the inline blocking, TYPE i Think Mitchell evans is just a really solid tight.

End he's not.

End he's not.

Sexy you know you're not gonna win A Super bowl because of, him but he can be part of a winning team and functional. Receiver big, Moves, okay you know he's not, fast but like he finds ways to get open AND i think pretty strong in line and gives good effort as a.

Sexy you know you're not gonna win A Super bowl because of, him but he can be part of a winning team and functional. Receiver big, Moves, okay you know he's not, fast but like he finds ways to get open AND i think pretty strong in line and gives good effort as a.

BLOCKER i like him a. Lot Jackson hawes was sort of a fascinating athlete at The. COMBINE i don't know.

BLOCKER i like him a. Lot Jackson hawes was sort of a fascinating athlete at The. COMBINE i don't know.

If Harold fannon will go in the top one, hundred but it wouldn't totally shock me to see him slip out around. Three he's the bowling green and try to And i'm you, know for your listeners who don't know who caught a zillion passes last year and you know he And Tyler warrant went head to. Head if you're a tight end, fan that's a pretty good game to pop. IN i think it was like you, know thirty one twenty four with the tight ends doing most of the. Damage so that's a good game for for the fan and fans out. There but, YEAH i, MEAN i still think there's only so much like we have to have, it desire for a kind of AN hvac tight. End people always seem to put that to the side a little, bit like it's nice to, have but you don't you can live without. It so maybe he slips into that. RANGE i Think Warren, Colston, lovelin you, Know Mason, Taylor Elijah royo are almost certainly off the board in the first seventy five, picks if, not you, know, Higher so there could be a little bit of a drop and then we get into the fourth round and maybe it resets with some of those guys we mentioned running. BACK i mean, Yeah like, again there's so many different types of. GUYS i feel, like you, know depending on how you want to Compliment, Tracy like if you want somebody who obviously receiving ability is, intriguing if you want someone to kind of handle the dirty work carries And i'll, Look Ali gordon's.

If Harold fannon will go in the top one, hundred but it wouldn't totally shock me to see him slip out around. Three he's the bowling green and try to And i'm you, know for your listeners who don't know who caught a zillion passes last year and you know he And Tyler warrant went head to. Head if you're a tight end, fan that's a pretty good game to pop. IN i think it was like you, know thirty one twenty four with the tight ends doing most of the. Damage so that's a good game for for the fan and fans out. There but, YEAH i, MEAN i still think there's only so much like we have to have, it desire for a kind of AN hvac tight. End people always seem to put that to the side a little, bit like it's nice to, have but you don't you can live without. It so maybe he slips into that. RANGE i Think Warren, Colston, lovelin you, Know Mason, Taylor Elijah royo are almost certainly off the board in the first seventy five, picks if, not you, know, Higher so there could be a little bit of a drop and then we get into the fourth round and maybe it resets with some of those guys we mentioned running. BACK i mean, Yeah like, again there's so many different types of. GUYS i feel, like you, know depending on how you want to Compliment, Tracy like if you want somebody who obviously receiving ability is, intriguing if you want someone to kind of handle the dirty work carries And i'll, Look Ali gordon's.

A pretty good.

A pretty good.

BACK i feel like people are kind of forgetting about him a little. Obviously Damian martinez is kind of an interesting power guy who could be a, compliment maybe a little better version Of Chris rodriguez from a couple of years. Ago Cam scattabho is obviously a fan. FAVORITE i don't know if that's an exact fit or, not but he's you, know, like how do you not love the guy as a as a? Player so, YEAH i mean there really are some pretty interesting options, there AND i think they there will be Multiple day three running backs who do something in the league where we look back and say they were. Underdrafted if you want to know how to manage two minutes of crunch time, Football i'm Your. Matt but if you're wondering about a long term financial, plan you should talk To.

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First oh, Yeah, Harvey, yeah really good running.

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Back you, know it took a while running, backs as you, know at The Senior, bowl like the practices aren't necessarily designed for those guys to really stand.

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Out it takes.

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Certain circumstances for them to really get their opportunity to.

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Shine by by the game, though you could.

See there was some respect for what he was able to, do and he played well in the game, itself and obviously go back and look at his his. Season he was always making plays and he's got that extra gear to kind of get to the second level and cause some. Damage, so you, know the guys that wasn't really blown away by Are Jordan james.

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And what he, Marks Trevor.

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Bit, interesting all?

Right final final one wide, Receiver, eric what's the sweet spot for that position in this? Draft it's probably one of the weaker classes we've seen in quite a, while so AND i think that position is one that will get overdrafted because there a lot of teams that need. Them so is there a sweet spot or is this a draft where guys are gonna get pushed up the board too much that you might have to overpay a little?

Right final final one wide, Receiver, eric what's the sweet spot for that position in this? Draft it's probably one of the weaker classes we've seen in quite a, while so AND i think that position is one that will get overdrafted because there a lot of teams that need. Them so is there a sweet spot or is this a draft where guys are gonna get pushed up the board too much that you might have to overpay a little?

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Bit great, question BECAUSE i you, Know i'm starting to think there's a scenario where we don't have a receiver in the top.

TEN i think it's you kind of.

TEN i think it's you kind of.

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