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Welcome into the Giants Huddle podcast, brought to you by Citizens, the official bank of the New York Giants for a week twelve rapid reaction on the Giants Bucks game. The Giants fell to the Buccaneers thirty to seven in the first game back from the bye, in the first game since benching and waving quarterback Daniel Jones. Madelen Burke here with the Super Bowl champion Moni Tumor to break it down and too. Obviously, big change on the offensive side of the ball this week going to Tommy DeVito at quarterback. A lot of a lot going on this week at the practice facility between benching DJ and then having him exit the team. But you know, when you're Tommy DeVito, you're coming in here, you're saying, all right, this is my shot as the starter the first time this season. They got a bit of a slow start in this one.

Welcome into the Giants Huddle podcast, brought to you by Citizens, the official bank of the New York Giants for a week twelve rapid reaction on the Giants Bucks game. The Giants fell to the Buccaneers thirty to seven in the first game back from the bye, in the first game since benching and waving quarterback Daniel Jones. Madelen Burke here with the Super Bowl champion Moni Tumor to break it down and too. Obviously, big change on the offensive side of the ball this week going to Tommy DeVito at quarterback. A lot of a lot going on this week at the practice facility between benching DJ and then having him exit the team. But you know, when you're Tommy DeVito, you're coming in here, you're saying, all right, this is my shot as the starter the first time this season. They got a bit of a slow start in this one.

Yeah they did.

Yeah they did.

And Tommy talked about it in his uh in his postgame interview, and one of the things that's really most distracting about this entire situation is when your players are constantly asked questions in the locker room from family members, from friends, what's going on, what's going on? Those are the types of things that cause distraction. But when you're in your locker room and when you're around the team, things happen. In the NFL, nothing really surprises most players. Even though this is a big, kind of a big shift in direction for this organization, it's still you can kind of roll with the punches, especially when you know that the quarterback wasn't playing and the team of the offense wasn't up to par, and they had to get a spark somehow.

And Tommy talked about it in his uh in his postgame interview, and one of the things that's really most distracting about this entire situation is when your players are constantly asked questions in the locker room from family members, from friends, what's going on, what's going on? Those are the types of things that cause distraction. But when you're in your locker room and when you're around the team, things happen. In the NFL, nothing really surprises most players. Even though this is a big, kind of a big shift in direction for this organization, it's still you can kind of roll with the punches, especially when you know that the quarterback wasn't playing and the team of the offense wasn't up to par, and they had to get a spark somehow.

So I don't think that was too out of the ordinary.

So I don't think that was too out of the ordinary.

But when you look at the way they came out and played in the beginning, they look like a team that was a little bit I mean, they're playing hard, but they just didn't seem to execute. They didn't have a lot of plays in the first half. They didn't have any real sustain drives. Tommy DeVito came out three or five for under fifty yards, so it was one of those things where you know he hadn't played in a long time that he said in his interview he hadn't played a real football where he's getting hit since the preseason, so of course it's going to.

But when you look at the way they came out and played in the beginning, they look like a team that was a little bit I mean, they're playing hard, but they just didn't seem to execute. They didn't have a lot of plays in the first half. They didn't have any real sustain drives. Tommy DeVito came out three or five for under fifty yards, so it was one of those things where you know he hadn't played in a long time that he said in his interview he hadn't played a real football where he's getting hit since the preseason, so of course it's going to.

Take him a little while to get going.

Take him a little while to get going.

But all in all, I felt like at the end of the game, this offense was better than it was when they started. And progress is the only thing you're looking for out of this team right now.

But all in all, I felt like at the end of the game, this offense was better than it was when they started. And progress is the only thing you're looking for out of this team right now.

Yeah, and effort, yeah, And Devido even mentioned it. You know, in the beginning of the game, you know, Tampa was applying a lot of pressure. I think they sacked him three times in the first half alone. They were kind of collapsing the pocket around him. And granted Jermaine a luminor who's been playing left tackle the last few games, left with an injury early in this game, so Chris Hubbard coming in to fill in. But you're getting a lot of pressure from that Bucks defense, and then there wasn't a lot of separation for these receivers, so even if he was getting the ball out, there wasn't a lot of yak yardage on the offensive side of things. And DeVito said, you know, it's just taken a while to just register and understand what they were doing out there on the on the Bucks defense. But then they came out in the second half, like you said, third quarter, he even admitted to finding a bit more of a rhythm the fourth quarter. They drive down the field and score, and then you know, as the game clock is expiring, they're still taking shots at the end zone.

Yeah, and effort, yeah, And Devido even mentioned it. You know, in the beginning of the game, you know, Tampa was applying a lot of pressure. I think they sacked him three times in the first half alone. They were kind of collapsing the pocket around him. And granted Jermaine a luminor who's been playing left tackle the last few games, left with an injury early in this game, so Chris Hubbard coming in to fill in. But you're getting a lot of pressure from that Bucks defense, and then there wasn't a lot of separation for these receivers, so even if he was getting the ball out, there wasn't a lot of yak yardage on the offensive side of things. And DeVito said, you know, it's just taken a while to just register and understand what they were doing out there on the on the Bucks defense. But then they came out in the second half, like you said, third quarter, he even admitted to finding a bit more of a rhythm the fourth quarter. They drive down the field and score, and then you know, as the game clock is expiring, they're still taking shots at the end zone.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It just goes to show that they're they're not giving up, Like this is a team that hasn't had any success really this season, but the fact that they're still you know, calling time out, still trying to execute. I think the goal of this game realistically was to compete as much as it can, show the effort and then be better at the end of the game than you were at the beginning of the game.

It just goes to show that they're they're not giving up, Like this is a team that hasn't had any success really this season, but the fact that they're still you know, calling time out, still trying to execute. I think the goal of this game realistically was to compete as much as it can, show the effort and then be better at the end of the game than you were at the beginning of the game.

To set up this big matchup versus the Cowboys.

To set up this big matchup versus the Cowboys.

Coming off a big win versus Washington in Division division game, they have another division game in Dallas, It's opportunity for the Giants to I mean they could. The great thing about the NFL is it's a week to week league in terms of how teams, how your team is perceived. This team as it's currently configured, goes down to Dallas and pulls off this upset, the whole thought image of this.

Coming off a big win versus Washington in Division division game, they have another division game in Dallas, It's opportunity for the Giants to I mean they could. The great thing about the NFL is it's a week to week league in terms of how teams, how your team is perceived. This team as it's currently configured, goes down to Dallas and pulls off this upset, the whole thought image of this.

Team changes so that's what's great about it.

Team changes so that's what's great about it.

You can always erase your you can't always erase they're not going to go to the playoffs. But in terms of perception the fan base, everybody wants to be excited about this team. And if you give a like even last year and Tommy Devido came in, he gave a little spark, they're looking for that spark again. And I just, I just I just want to see some quality, high level attention to detail football.

You can always erase your you can't always erase they're not going to go to the playoffs. But in terms of perception the fan base, everybody wants to be excited about this team. And if you give a like even last year and Tommy Devido came in, he gave a little spark, they're looking for that spark again. And I just, I just I just want to see some quality, high level attention to detail football.

That's all I want to see get in here.

That's all I want to see get in here.

If you're lined up here, you got to go over the middle with it the score right.

If you're lined up here, you got to go over the middle with it the score right.

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Absolutely, And that's all you can ask for. And as you know, things change and continue to modify and evolve. That's what the coaching staff is looking for. But you know, when you talk about what DeVito said after the game too, another thing that sticks out is that they're still very together and you know, kind of going by the way of you know, they're following the leadership of Dable, they're aligned under him, and they're kind of focused on getting this thing right. The defensive side of the ball, though, also struggled today. This defensive performance was not the defense that was really carrying the Giants early on in the season. Dexter Lawrence talked about it, said, hey, you know, this team needs to tackle better. As a captain of the team, dex said, you know, he talked to some of the guys at halftime. He's really invested in kind of correcting this. But when you look at the way the defense played almost an uncharacteristically flat game.

Absolutely, And that's all you can ask for. And as you know, things change and continue to modify and evolve. That's what the coaching staff is looking for. But you know, when you talk about what DeVito said after the game too, another thing that sticks out is that they're still very together and you know, kind of going by the way of you know, they're following the leadership of Dable, they're aligned under him, and they're kind of focused on getting this thing right. The defensive side of the ball, though, also struggled today. This defensive performance was not the defense that was really carrying the Giants early on in the season. Dexter Lawrence talked about it, said, hey, you know, this team needs to tackle better. As a captain of the team, dex said, you know, he talked to some of the guys at halftime. He's really invested in kind of correcting this. But when you look at the way the defense played almost an uncharacteristically flat game.

Today, Yeah, it was.

Today, Yeah, it was.

They missed so many tackles and letting up one hundred and fifty one hundred and fifty plus yarrds. Rushing is especially at home, especially when you have a quarterback that's you know, the combination of giving up points early, getting down twenty four to nothing early, and then forcing your second year quarterback who's getting making his first start all season to try and throw the ball forty to fifty. I think he ended up being thirty one times and only giving the ball to Tyrone, Tracy and Motor twenty times. It's just a it's not a recipe for real success. You want to give your quarterback an opportunity to throw when he needs to not when he has to. And when you drop back thirty one times, you're just putting a young guy who doesn't have the experience going against the Todd Bowles defense that's bringing all kinds of exotic blitzes. It just really makes your margin of error really really low, really small.

They missed so many tackles and letting up one hundred and fifty one hundred and fifty plus yarrds. Rushing is especially at home, especially when you have a quarterback that's you know, the combination of giving up points early, getting down twenty four to nothing early, and then forcing your second year quarterback who's getting making his first start all season to try and throw the ball forty to fifty. I think he ended up being thirty one times and only giving the ball to Tyrone, Tracy and Motor twenty times. It's just a it's not a recipe for real success. You want to give your quarterback an opportunity to throw when he needs to not when he has to. And when you drop back thirty one times, you're just putting a young guy who doesn't have the experience going against the Todd Bowles defense that's bringing all kinds of exotic blitzes. It just really makes your margin of error really really low, really small.

Yeah, and I mean this Giant's defense too, that at one point led the Leadgan Sacks didn't get any today did not get any. And granted you, Baker Mayfield is a tough quarterback to bring down. He's a guy who plays confident and fearlessly. The Bucks offense has put up thirty or more points five times so far this season, and so they're not you know, they're not a stranger to scoring points. It's a tough offense to stifle. But the Giants, you know, putting pressure on there. It just wasn't there today.

Yeah, and I mean this Giant's defense too, that at one point led the Leadgan Sacks didn't get any today did not get any. And granted you, Baker Mayfield is a tough quarterback to bring down. He's a guy who plays confident and fearlessly. The Bucks offense has put up thirty or more points five times so far this season, and so they're not you know, they're not a stranger to scoring points. It's a tough offense to stifle. But the Giants, you know, putting pressure on there. It just wasn't there today.

No, it wasn't.

No, it wasn't.

And I think it had a lot to do with the fact that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers were able to run the ball so well. When the Giants are able to stop the run and then pin their ears back on the defensive front and go after the quarterback with some of the blitzes that the giants do, but they couldn't stop the run. So it's like, you know, you're you're a boxer and you keep getting hit in the body and you're trying to have that knockout blow, but you your hands or are always down because you're you're.

And I think it had a lot to do with the fact that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers were able to run the ball so well. When the Giants are able to stop the run and then pin their ears back on the defensive front and go after the quarterback with some of the blitzes that the giants do, but they couldn't stop the run. So it's like, you know, you're you're a boxer and you keep getting hit in the body and you're trying to have that knockout blow, but you your hands or are always down because you're you're.

Getting taken punishment in the body. And that's what a run game is to a defense.

Getting taken punishment in the body. And that's what a run game is to a defense.

It's a body blow and you just it keeps wears you down, whars you down, and then you get a fifty six yard run from the one yard line.

It's a body blow and you just it keeps wears you down, whars you down, and then you get a fifty six yard run from the one yard line.

That really is demoralizing.

That really is demoralizing.

You have an opportunity to pin this team back, forced them to kick the field, force them to punt, and then you get the ball around the fifty yard line, two first downs and you have three points. That's the advantage that wasn't taking advantage that they weren't that they didn't take advantage of.

You have an opportunity to pin this team back, forced them to kick the field, force them to punt, and then you get the ball around the fifty yard line, two first downs and you have three points. That's the advantage that wasn't taking advantage that they weren't that they didn't take advantage of.

And ultimately that change of field.

And ultimately that change of field.

Position is not just change of field positions to change the momentum.

Position is not just change of field positions to change the momentum.

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Yeah. Coming into this game, it was highlighted by two of the league's best rookie running backs in Bucky Irving and Tyrone. Tracy Tyrone finished with nine attempts forty two yards rushing. Bucky Irving, as you mention, a fifty six yard long, finished with eighty seven yards rushing total. But that fifty six yard are even Baker Mayfield through a block to help them get away and get out in that one. And it was just, you know, you see the effort and the difference in effort and the focus in hearing from these players talking after the game on reinspiring that effort and that attention to detail and the fundamentals. And you know, as you've said many times, one of the best things after suffering a loss that's a bad loss, is how quickly can we get back on the football field, And fortunately for these Giants is very quickly. Because it's a short week. They're playing Thursday, Thanksgiving Day at Dallas against the Cowboys. Cowboys haven't yet won a game at home at AT and T, but they are coming off a win in Washington in Week twelve in which they beat the Commanders twenty seven to twenty. So when you look at this Giants Cowboys matchup, I mean, no matter the records coming into this, it's always a big one. A battle in the NFC East.

Yeah. Coming into this game, it was highlighted by two of the league's best rookie running backs in Bucky Irving and Tyrone. Tracy Tyrone finished with nine attempts forty two yards rushing. Bucky Irving, as you mention, a fifty six yard long, finished with eighty seven yards rushing total. But that fifty six yard are even Baker Mayfield through a block to help them get away and get out in that one. And it was just, you know, you see the effort and the difference in effort and the focus in hearing from these players talking after the game on reinspiring that effort and that attention to detail and the fundamentals. And you know, as you've said many times, one of the best things after suffering a loss that's a bad loss, is how quickly can we get back on the football field, And fortunately for these Giants is very quickly. Because it's a short week. They're playing Thursday, Thanksgiving Day at Dallas against the Cowboys. Cowboys haven't yet won a game at home at AT and T, but they are coming off a win in Washington in Week twelve in which they beat the Commanders twenty seven to twenty. So when you look at this Giants Cowboys matchup, I mean, no matter the records coming into this, it's always a big one. A battle in the NFC East.

Absolutely, these teams, and you know they when you're in the draft room, you're you're drafting for how do we beat the Cowboys? What are the Cowboys got? What do the Commanders have? You know, those are the teams that you're focusing What do the Eagles have? Those are teams you're focusing on building your team rounds. So if any team matches up, well it's going to with this team, that's going to be the Giants. And I want to take a step back when we're talking about attention to detail. Tyrone Tracy. You know he had nine carries for forty two yards and four point seven yards of carry. Great, sixteen yard you know, great. The problem is the detail, the small detail. It erases all of the good that he's doing with the fumble. And those are the types of details.

Absolutely, these teams, and you know they when you're in the draft room, you're you're drafting for how do we beat the Cowboys? What are the Cowboys got? What do the Commanders have? You know, those are the teams that you're focusing What do the Eagles have? Those are teams you're focusing on building your team rounds. So if any team matches up, well it's going to with this team, that's going to be the Giants. And I want to take a step back when we're talking about attention to detail. Tyrone Tracy. You know he had nine carries for forty two yards and four point seven yards of carry. Great, sixteen yard you know, great. The problem is the detail, the small detail. It erases all of the good that he's doing with the fumble. And those are the types of details.

High and tight.

High and tight.

Keeping the ball ball security something you've been taught a long time, but in this league, if you can't carry the ball and give it back to the referee every time and giving it make sure that your team has it after you run the ball.

Keeping the ball ball security something you've been taught a long time, but in this league, if you can't carry the ball and give it back to the referee every time and giving it make sure that your team has it after you run the ball.

His career kind of that.

His career kind of that.

Running backs that fumble don't stay in the league long and he's too bit of a runner for that to happen.

Running backs that fumble don't stay in the league long and he's too bit of a runner for that to happen.

So I'd love to see him sew this up.

So I'd love to see him sew this up.

I played with a player Ticki Barbera who had fumbling issues, sowed it up and ended up having a borderline Hall of Fame career. Probably you know eventually we'll get in, so there is a way back for it. But I hate to get for Tyrone Tracy to get this tag of being a fumbler because that tag is really really hard to shake, right.

I played with a player Ticki Barbera who had fumbling issues, sowed it up and ended up having a borderline Hall of Fame career. Probably you know eventually we'll get in, so there is a way back for it. But I hate to get for Tyrone Tracy to get this tag of being a fumbler because that tag is really really hard to shake, right.

And to your point, this is a league of what have you done for me lately? In Tyrone Tracy the last two games has had a significant fumble in it, but in his young career hasn't seen that become a headline just yet. Like you said, hey, let's correct it before it becomes that. And what better way to do it? On a short turn round against Cowboys on Thanksgiving Day primetime matchup and we will be there for it. But that's a wrap for a week twelve rapid reaction brought to you by Citizens, the official bank of the New York Football Giants. Citizens will donate seven hundred and fifty dollars to the Giants Foundation for each scoring drive during the twenty twenty four season. Learn more at citizensbank dot com slash Giants

And to your point, this is a league of what have you done for me lately? In Tyrone Tracy the last two games has had a significant fumble in it, but in his young career hasn't seen that become a headline just yet. Like you said, hey, let's correct it before it becomes that. And what better way to do it? On a short turn round against Cowboys on Thanksgiving Day primetime matchup and we will be there for it. But that's a wrap for a week twelve rapid reaction brought to you by Citizens, the official bank of the New York Football Giants. Citizens will donate seven hundred and fifty dollars to the Giants Foundation for each scoring drive during the twenty twenty four season. Learn more at citizensbank dot com slash Giants