If you're looking for an uncommon thinker, how about a tech industry veteran developing and selling landline phones in 2025 — and selling out of them in the process. Chet Kittleson is the co-founder and CEO of Tin Can, a Seattle startup making Wi-Fi enabled landline phones designed to let kids talk to friends and family with just their voices. No screens, no AI. 

GeekWire recognized Kittleson as one of our Uncommon Thinkers for 2025, a program presented in partnership with Greater Seattle Partners honoring inventors, scientists, and entrepreneurs transforming their industries in unexpected ways.

In this episode, he talks about the moment at school pickup that sparked the idea, why his own kids don't own devices, what happened when he eliminated screens on family road trips, and the $12 million seed round led by Greylock that will fuel the company's next chapter.

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Tin Can dials up another $12M to meet soaring demand for landline-style phone for kids
Uncommon Thinkers: Tin Can is Chet Kittleson’s calling, and a way to foster deeper connections
Uncommon Thinkers: Hope for the future from our 2025 honorees

With GeekWire co-founder Todd Bishop; edited by Curt Milton.

 

If you're looking for an uncommon thinker, how about a tech industry veteran developing and selling landline phones in 2025 &mdash; and selling out of them in the process. Chet Kittleson is the co-founder and CEO of Tin Can, a Seattle startup making Wi-Fi enabled landline phones designed to let kids talk to friends and family with just their voices. No screens, no AI.&nbsp;
GeekWire recognized Kittleson as one of our <a href="https://www.geekwire.com/special-coverage/uncommon-thinkers-2025/">Uncommon Thinkers</a> for 2025, a program presented in partnership with Greater Seattle Partners honoring inventors, scientists, and entrepreneurs transforming their industries in unexpected ways.
In this episode, he talks about the moment at school pickup that sparked the idea, why his own kids don't own devices, what happened when he eliminated screens on family road trips, and the $12 million seed round led by Greylock that will fuel the company's next chapter.
Related stories:
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<li><a href="https://www.geekwire.com/2025/tin-can-dials-up-another-12m-to-meet-soaring-demand-for-landline-style-phone-for-kids/">Tin Can dials up another $12M to meet soaring demand for landline-style phone for kids</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.geekwire.com/2025/uncommon-thinkers-tin-can-is-chet-kittlesons-calling-and-a-way-to-foster-deeper-connections/">Uncommon Thinkers: Tin Can is Chet Kittleson&rsquo;s calling, and a way to foster deeper connections</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.geekwire.com/2025/uncommon-thinkers-hope-for-the-future-from-our-2025-honorees/">Uncommon Thinkers: Hope for the future from our 2025 honorees</a></li>
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With GeekWire co-founder Todd Bishop; edited by Curt Milton.
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GeekWire brings you the week's latest technology news, trends and insights, covering the world of technology from our home base in Seattle. Our regular news podcast features commentary and analysis from our editors and reporters, plus interviews with special guests.

GeekWire reporters John Cook, Todd Bishop and guests talk about the latest tech news and trends.

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Landline phones in 2025? How this tech vet is helping kids connect

Fresh off the big GeekWire AI summit this week, Todd and John unpack what they heard from Microsoft EVP Charles Lamanna, OpenAI applications CTO Vijaye Raji, and other speakers at the Agents of Transformation event in Seattle, presented by Accenture.

The big thread: the economics of AI, from token budgets becoming a hiring negotiation point to startups running on subsidized credits that may not last.

Plus, a startup founder whose engineer burned through $5,000 in AI tokens over a single weekend of vibe coding, OpenAI shutting down Sora amid $15 million-a-day processing costs, and why one panelist says the metrics most companies are tracking are "watermelon metrics" — green (profit) on the outside, red (losses) on the inside.

Also: how Todd used a Claude project over several months to prep for the event, John's experience bouncing between Gemini and ChatGPT, and why the simplistic chat era may be over. 

And in this week's trivia: Sound Transit's light rail starts crossing Lake Washington on a floating bridge — but when did the original I-90 floating bridge open?

With GeekWire co-founders John Cook and Todd Bishop. Edited by Curt Milton.

Fresh off the big GeekWire AI summit this week, Todd and John unpack what they heard from Microsoft EVP Charles Lamanna, OpenAI applications CTO Vijaye Raji, and other speakers at the <a href="https://www.geekwire.com/2026/beyond-the-chatbot-at-geekwire-summit-ai-leaders-say-the-era-of-autonomous-agents-is-already-here/">Agents of Transformation event in Seattle</a>, presented by Accenture.
The big thread: the economics of AI, from <a href="https://www.geekwire.com/2026/microsoft-exec-charles-lamanna-on-how-ai-is-creating-an-expensive-new-request-from-job-candidates/">token budgets</a> becoming a hiring negotiation point to startups running on subsidized credits that may not last.
Plus, a startup founder whose engineer burned through $5,000 in AI tokens over a single weekend of vibe coding, OpenAI shutting down Sora amid $15 million-a-day processing costs, and why one panelist says the metrics most companies are tracking are "watermelon metrics" &mdash; green (profit) on the outside, red (losses) on the inside.
Also: how Todd used a Claude project over several months to prep for the event, John's experience bouncing between Gemini and ChatGPT, and why the simplistic chat era may be over.&nbsp;
And in this week's trivia: Sound Transit's light rail <a href="https://www.geekwire.com/2026/geekwire-rides-the-worlds-first-floating-bridge-train-seattle-tech-commutes-will-never-be-the-same/https://www.geekwire.com/2026/geekwire-rides-the-worlds-first-floating-bridge-train-seattle-tech-commutes-will-never-be-the-same/">starts crossing Lake Washington on a floating bridge</a> &mdash; but when did the original I-90 floating bridge open?
With GeekWire co-founders John Cook and Todd Bishop. Edited by Curt Milton.

GeekWire AI summit takeaways: Token budgets, watermelon metrics, and the $5k weekend coder

Amazon is working on a new smartphone, code-named "Transformer," more than a decade after the Fire Phone debacle, according to Reuters. We dig into the connection to a past GeekWire scoop: former Microsoft Xbox leader J Allard joined Amazon's devices team in 2024, and he's now leading a group called ZeroOne with a mandate to create "breakthrough" gadgets. Is this an AI-native device? A companion to your iPhone? J Allard's shot at redemption? Maybe all of the above.

There's more great Fire Phone background in this Vergecast "Version History" podcast.

Then: Microsoft shakes up its Copilot team, shifting Mustafa Suleyman to a narrower role and unifying consumer and enterprise AI under a new leader. Todd has strong feelings about Microsoft's history of cutesy consumer tech, from Clippy to Mico.

Plus: Todd's adventure using Claude CoWork to browse LinkedIn (and the stern warning he got in response), King County Metro's slick new tap-to-pay feature catches the transit system up with the modern world, the opening of cross-lake light rail, and an Amazon Treasure truck trivia question.

With GeekWire co-founders Todd Bishop and John Cook. Audio editing by Curt Milton.

Amazon is working on a new smartphone, code-named "Transformer," more than a decade after the Fire Phone debacle, <a href="https://www.reuters.com/technology/amazon-plans-smartphone-comeback-more-than-decade-after-fire-phone-flop-2026-03-20/">according to Reuters</a>. We dig into the connection to <a href="https://www.geekwire.com/2024/former-microsoft-xbox-leader-j-allard-joins-amazon-in-latest-surprise-career-twist/">a past GeekWire scoop</a>: former Microsoft Xbox leader J Allard joined Amazon's devices team in 2024, and he's now leading a group called <a href="https://www.geekwire.com/2025/amazon-has-a-secretive-new-hardware-group-led-by-former-xbox-leader-j-allard/">ZeroOne</a> with a mandate to create "breakthrough" gadgets. Is this an AI-native device? A companion to your iPhone? J Allard's shot at redemption? Maybe all of the above.
There's more great Fire Phone background in this&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theverge.com/podcast/816739/amazon-fire-phone-version-history">Vergecast "Version History" podcast.</a>
Then: Microsoft <a href="https://www.geekwire.com/2026/microsoft-revamps-copilot-structure-elevating-former-snap-exec-as-suleyman-shifts-to-ai-models/">shakes up its Copilot team</a>, shifting Mustafa Suleyman to a narrower role and unifying consumer and enterprise AI under a new leader. Todd has strong feelings about Microsoft's history of cutesy consumer tech, from Clippy to Mico.
Plus: Todd's adventure using Claude CoWork to browse LinkedIn (and the stern warning he got in response), King County Metro's slick <a href="https://www.geekwire.com/2026/seattle-transits-new-tap-to-pay-feature-goes-live-next-week-well-ahead-of-world-cup/">new tap-to-pay feature</a> catches the transit system up with the modern world, the opening of cross-lake light rail, and an Amazon Treasure truck trivia question.
With GeekWire co-founders Todd Bishop and John Cook. Audio editing by Curt Milton.

Microsoft’s Copilot shakeup, Amazon’s new phone ambitions, and pushing Claude to the limits of LinkedIn

Brice Budke (President) and Zeek Earl (Executive Creative Director) run two Seattle studios: Shep, a video agency that works with tech companies like Amazon and Microsoft, and Packrat, a creative studio that specializes in miniature worlds, handmade sets, and retro creative projects.

You might know Packrat's work from the epic and widely watched 2025 Seahawks schedule release video, which won a Gold Clio. They also made Prospect, an indie sci-fi film that premiered at SXSW in 2018 with Pedro Pascal and Sophie Thatcher.

GeekWire met them last fall on the set of a stop-motion shoot for Kiro, an AI-powered agentic software development tool from Amazon Web Services. Check out the video they made from that shoot here.

On this episode, Brice and Zeek discuss how AI is transforming their work — from photorealistic storyboarding to stop-motion animation filled in by AI-generated frames — and what still requires human creativity, taste, and intuition. Plus: the psychology of working with "infinite tools," why AI doesn't always save money, and the GeekWire Trivia Challenge.

With GeekWire co-founder Todd Bishop; Edited by Curt Milton.

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bricebudke/">Brice Budke</a> (President) and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/zeek-earl-46962a33/">Zeek Earl</a> (Executive Creative Director) run two Seattle studios: <a href="https://www.shepfilms.com/">Shep</a>, a video agency that works with tech companies like Amazon and Microsoft, and <a href="https://www.packrat.studio/">Packrat</a>, a creative studio that specializes in miniature worlds, handmade sets, and retro creative projects.
You might know Packrat's work from the epic and widely watched 2025 Seahawks&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifvSa50l1hQ">schedule release video</a>, which won a Gold Clio. They also made <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7946422/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk">Prospect</a>, an <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsrbNtUgEaY">indie sci-fi film</a> that premiered at SXSW in 2018 with Pedro Pascal and Sophie Thatcher.
GeekWire&nbsp;<a href="https://www.geekwire.com/2025/amazons-surprise-indie-hit-kiro-launches-broadly-in-bid-to-reshape-ai-powered-software-development/">met them last fall</a> on the set of a stop-motion shoot for <a href="https://kiro.dev/">Kiro</a>, an AI-powered agentic software development tool from Amazon Web Services. Check out the video they made from that shoot&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pH6jRYwRfjI">here</a>.
On this episode, Brice and Zeek discuss how AI is transforming their work &mdash; from photorealistic storyboarding to stop-motion animation filled in by AI-generated frames &mdash; and what still requires human creativity, taste, and intuition. Plus: the psychology of working with "infinite tools," why AI doesn't always save money, and the GeekWire Trivia Challenge.
With GeekWire co-founder Todd Bishop; Edited by Curt Milton.

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