Gary & Shannon Overtime – A focused, candid sit-down with San Jose Mayor and gubernatorial candidate Matt Mahanas the California race starts to shift.
• The post-Swalwell landscape → what his exit actually changes (and what it doesn’t)
• A wide-open field → no clear frontrunner, fractured support, and opportunity for new voices
• Mahan’s pitch → pragmatic, results-driven leadership vs politics as performance
• High-speed rail, cost of living, and real-world solutions → what “common sense” governance looks like in practice
• Fighting the narrative → why success on the ground may matter more than messaging wars with Washington
• The big question → does a Newsom endorsement help… or hurt in this race?

But… To What End?
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