The Frugal Friends take a look at the fundamental need and expense of shelter! In this episode Jill shares her adventures in non-traditional housing solutions and Jen talks house hacks and how she uses her home as income property. A number of internet articles are explored and the pros and cons of renting versus buying are equitably discussed.

Notable Notes

What the Internet has to say 
Market Watch Article
Jacob Passy boldy supports his claims that, in some cases, it makes more sense to rent than buy. Citing shifts in economics and the housing market, Jacob gives a convincing argument to stick with the landlord, and enjoy the freedom that comes with renting. 

You do run the risk of rent inflation but when you own your taxes increase too so you’re not immune.
Renting includes being absolved from fixing anything that breaks, renters insurance is a fraction of the cost of homeowners insurance, you don’t have to pay property taxes, there is no interest lost when you rent.
Jen -"we love our house but it's a luxury". The house you live in isn’t an investment, it’s a home. Until you’re ready to incur the cost of maintenance, upkeep, and designing it to be a place you love, no one, including yourself, should rush you into buying. You’re not missing out on anything by renting, it’s the frugal thing to do. mic drop.What Jen and Jill have to sayThe Case for Renting


Jill shares on her journey of renting inexpensively, living in an RV, house-sitting, and living with grandma!
Get paid to care for your elderly family members
Caring for ElderlyAlternative Housing


1) rates are always at “attractive lows” and housing prices are always “only going up from here”
2) Start doing best practices to increase your credit score and decrease your your debt-to-income ratio (less than 28%). Better yet, get out of debt first! Your goal is to qualify for a conventional loan.
3) Save your downpayment (the more you save the lower your interest rate and less PMI you’ll have to pay.) And look at grants.Things to Remember

Coach Carson Article
Chad Carson gives a very thorough description (with pictures!) of his 'house hacking' journey. The article includes Chad's own break down of the costs incurred and revenue accrued from his fourplex, along with a creative guide for others who are interested in 'house hacking'. 

Chad Carson is who Jen learned house hacking from - she always assumed it was an option, but Chad actually gave it a name! 
Jen's version of 'house hacking' includes renting out a room in their single family home on Airbnb

What Jen and Jill have to sayWhat the Internet has to sayReady to Buy


Mr. Money Mustache Article
Mr. Money exposes the true cost of commuting and dispels the myth that 'commuting is a good way to save money' 

Some people think opting for lower rent outside the city and settling for a 30-40 minute commute is the smart thing to do, but the frugal friends disagree.
Jen agrees with Mr. Money Mustache that you should pay the higher rent to live close to your work and life if you’re willing to 1) bike to work 2) sell youWhat Jen and Jill have to sayWhat the Internet has to sayThe Case Against a Commute

The Frugal Friends take a look at the fundamental need and expense of shelter! In this episode Jill shares her adventures in non-traditional housing solutions and Jen talks house hacks and how she uses her home as income property. A number of internet articles are explored and the pros and cons of renting versus buying are equitably discussed.Notable Notes<ul><li><ul><li>What the Internet has to say <ul><li><a href='https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-it-makes-more-sense-to-rent-than-buy-2018-01-11'>Market Watch Article</a></li><li>Jacob Passy boldy supports his claims that, in some cases, it makes more sense to rent than buy. Citing shifts in economics and the housing market, Jacob gives a convincing argument to stick with the landlord, and enjoy the freedom that comes with renting. <ul><li><ul><li>You do run the risk of rent inflation but when you own your taxes increase too so you’re not immune.</li><li>Renting includes being absolved from fixing anything that breaks, renters insurance is a fraction of the cost of homeowners insurance, you don’t have to pay property taxes, there is no interest lost when you rent.</li><li>Jen -&quot;we love our house but it&apos;s a luxury&quot;. The house you live in isn’t an investment, it’s a home. Until you’re ready to incur the cost of maintenance, upkeep, and designing it to be a place you love, no one, including yourself, should rush you into buying. You’re not missing out on anything by renting, it’s the frugal thing to do. mic drop.</li></ul>What Jen and Jill have to say</li></ul></li></ul></li></ul>The Case for Renting</li><li><ul><li><ul><li>Jill shares on her journey of renting inexpensively, living in an RV, house-sitting, and living with grandma!<ul><li>Get paid to care for your elderly family members<ul><li><a href='https://www.caring.com/articles/payment-for-family-caregiver'>Caring for Elderly</a></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul>Alternative Housing</li><li><ul><li><ul><li>1) rates are always at “attractive lows” and housing prices are always “only going up from here”</li><li>2) Start doing best practices to increase your credit score and decrease your your debt-to-income ratio (less than 28%). Better yet, get out of debt first! Your goal is to qualify for a conventional loan.</li><li>3) Save your downpayment (the more you save the lower your interest rate and less PMI you’ll have to pay.) And look at grants.</li></ul>Things to Remember</li><li><ul><li><a href='https://www.coachcarson.com/house-hacking-guide/'>Coach Carson Article</a></li><li>Chad Carson gives a very thorough description (with pictures!) of his &apos;house hacking&apos; journey. The article includes Chad&apos;s own break down of the costs incurred and revenue accrued from his fourplex, along with a creative guide for others who are interested in &apos;house hacking&apos;. <ul><li><ul><li>Chad Carson is who Jen learned house hacking from - she always assumed it was an option, but Chad actually gave it a name! </li><li>Jen&apos;s version of &apos;house hacking&apos; includes renting out a room in their single family home on <a href='https://www.airbnb.com/'>Airbnb</a> </li></ul>What Jen and Jill have to say</li></ul></li></ul>What the Internet has to say</li></ul>Ready to Buy</li><li><ul><li><ul><li><a href='http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2011/10/06/the-true-cost-of-commuting/'>Mr. Money Mustache Article</a></li><li>Mr. Money exposes the true cost of commuting and dispels the myth that &apos;commuting is a good way to save money&apos; <ul><li><ul><li>Some people think opting for lower rent outside the city and settling for a 30-40 minute commute is the smart thing to do, but the frugal friends disagree.</li><li>Jen agrees with Mr. Money Mustache that you should pay the higher rent to live close to your work and life if you’re willing to 1) bike to work 2) sell you</li></ul>What Jen and Jill have to say</li></ul></li></ul>What the Internet has to say</li></ul>The Case Against a Commute</li></ul>

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Save Money on Housing with House Hacks 

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