This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass and I heard podcast. Hello, my Little Peanuts, it's me your host, Lance Bass. This is the brand new show Frosted Tips with me Lance Bass and my co host Michael Durchen. That's my husband. If you didn't know already, UM, Welcome to the show, guys. We were so excited to finally bring the show up. We've been talking about this for probably three years, right literally, yes, three years. And if you've listened to our other shows before, you know we love our pop culture, so you're gonna get tons of it on this show. But we want to do something special because we wanted to take you back. We wanted to give you some nostalgia on this show. Hence Frosted Tips the best era in the world apparently, you know what. I always did want frosted tips growing up, and I never did it. I don't know if I could see you with frosted tips, but everyone did it back then, and I wanted like everyone did it, yes, and I thought I and Nick Carter were the only ones that did it. Mark McGrath, well, I wanted to model mine after his. Whoa you know where I got my frosted Tips idea, um aqua. Remember the really white haired guy had the spikes, I would might have been a little attracted to him, um, but I definitely wanted his hair. And since then I started really bleaching the crap out of my hair. And then you know, you have to work a lot, so the root would come in and boom, frosted tips were born and they never left in your and they never thanks to my mom. My mom is the type that anytime I go home to Mississippi and she's like, you know, you need a little son. You live in California, you're getting You're you're really pale. You need You're just the type and need some sun. You look sick if you don't have some sun. Some frosted tips in there too. Yes, always shall always see Like another singer or actor or something, she's like, you know, so little blah Blah's hair, Well, you know what, you you should make it more like that at a a blonde. Your hair it's a little too dark. Yeah, you're just you're just a blonde. You're a blonde, like mom. I wasn't a blonde since I was four years old. Really yeah, and then when I you know, turned into a teenager, got really dark and then I joined in sync in and they decide, oh, we want you to be like blonde, right, No, they turned me orange. If you see the first album cover, the German album, Oh yeah, for those that don't know we're a German band. Yeah, I think you just used son In for those first few years. It looks it wasn't sun In. It was Legit went to a salon and got orange hair and then they put a greasy comb over on it, just like maybe they wanted a redhead. You know, they got a lot of brunenettes who got a curly blonde and they're like, you know what, it wasn't a good red you know what, we need a redhead. It was an orange head. Okay, it was one of my clown my hair to make you laugh. Yes, it did make me laugh. Um. But yeah, so um, we sound maybe a little weird because we were recording this on our voice note right now, um, but because we have had a hellish, hellish of a day alright, so on the show, I guess we buried lead. Um. When we announced the show last week, I said we're gonna have a very special guest. Um. If you listen to the trailer, you know that this show is all about nostalgia, bringing in our favorite boy band icons and really getting in depth and getting to know them and going back. We're also gonna have great pop culture icons also, but we're kind of focusing on the boy banders right now because that's what you wanted, that's what you ask for, and our very first guest today is who you really ask for. He's like the unicorn of boy band members is he is the unicorn and I love that we get to see him more than anyone else. What does that make us a leper con? We're unicorn wranglers, We're unicorn hunters. Uh. Anyway, guys, you asked, I gave it to you. Mr j C. Chase is going to be our very first guest now again. I want to j C on here to help you know your life questions and you know, give you good hips. But no one knew we were doing the show, so it's just gonna be a straight on interview. But he is gonna be here. Well we already did it, but he's he was here. It's a great interview because you know, one thing that I always wanted to really get in depth with that they never do Mickey mouse Club. Yes really, I know. He's like, can we talk about making a mouse Club more? I'm like, yeah, because no one ever talks about it. The amount of people that came from the Disney Channel, especially MMC at that era, Christina Aguilera, Britney spears justin Timber like Jayce's Tony Luca. I mean, you name it. There was some great, great people there and not even to mention the people that audition didn't even make it, but they but no one really cares to talk about it. I feel like they might be embarrassed about it. I feel like everybody else, like who was not in Mickey mouse Club always talks about it, like, oh my god, they making moulu it was the greatest. They never talked about it. No, I swear I think they're embarrassed about it. And I think j C is too, because he was like, let's move on, let's move on. But I kept coming back to it because I wanted the salacious stuff that happened, because you know, if you're a teenager working at Disney away from your parents, I mean, you're gonna get into some trouble, all right. So j C is on the show today we're gonna get to him any second now. But we just wanted to um intro this because we're gonna ento it every week, uh, to make it a little more similive and it'll be better quality, not on our iPhones. And well we are we we were Okay, another thing, we are stranded now in Miami. We were heading back to Los Angeles today too then record you know in I Heart Studios as the professionals we are. But our flight was delayed on the tarmac for three hours with two screaming babies. So we were like, uh yeah, we can't torture the rest of this flight because we don't know when it's gonna take off and it's gonna be like a seven hour flight. So we were the only two members of the of the flight. I'm not even getting get into how horrible flying is because this is gonn a positive showance. We'll talk about this for and I'm not gonna do it. Just Just know that airline suck. That's all. That's all. And you know what, and we were the good guys that took the babies off the plane. You're welcome, You're welcome, play flight twenty two whatever. Uh yeah, So we're still stuck in Miami. I gosh, I have to get back by Friday. There's no flights I do. I think I know who the next guest is gonna be. And you're gonna even love it. All right, guys, let's take a little break right now, and when we come back, we're gonna have the one and only Joshua Scott Chase the Yuna Corn and again follow us at Frosted Tips with Lance d. M Us with all your questions life advice. Again, we're new parents, so please give us any parenting advice you got, all right, and you can give us your tips as well. Yeah, and and honestly, as asked tips or ask for tips, to give us tips on pretty much anything. It really runs the gamut. What should I put on my hot dog? I tell you, Yeah, we're going on What can I I don't know. We're here for you. It's your show. We're growing old together guys and new newbies too. Hi, gen Z, we love you too. We're gonna teach you so much. All right, we'll be back with This is Frosted Tips, our new show, and I have my lovely co host, my husband, Mr Michael Turchin, which we also called Turkey Turchin. We have what it's Turkey Turchin. You don't know his nickname, Turkey Turchin, I don't, wow. I never got that nickname because he his feathers get ruffled a lot. So it's like Turkey church In. So you're salty, like you're an angry person over there for these Mike events. You're really the real turkis you don't like I thought you were sweet? Mind going yeah, well, we're about to find on this show another side of Turkey church And that's right, the world. I need the world to see this, to see what I have to live with because his public persona is this this real sweet, you know, very handsome, very buff, and then there's then there's another side to him, and you're gonna you're gonna see it on this show. Yeah, the guy that like cradles the babies and puts them to bed. He's amazing dad, amazing dad. But I wanted to bring back a show, uh, mainly because we missed it. We love talking pop culture, but we wanted to make it very I don't know, I mean, it's it is a little niche out there. Because I wanted I wanted a show that really brought us back to filling that nostalgia because I think, especially this day and age, people need to escape, you know, just somewhere because life gets hard, especially the older you get. We're all unfortunately middle aged. It's so weird that we're middle age. It's actually fraguity. So I had a very strange conversation with someone like two or three days ago, and I was like, you realize, like this is the time frame where people start talking about like you're probably five years from a midlife crisis. I think been pasted Leslie three years ago when you're like twenty years old. Though you're thinking that's so far away, And now you're like, I'm kind of knocking on the door. Well, am I going crazy? Yeah? I remember when my parents turned forty, right, and that was over the hill, right, you get the cake and all that, and I just remember thinking how old that was easy. But now I'm like, that is not old at all, guys. I still think it's pretty old. I'm still in my thirties, so don't lump me in with this. By the way, so you're really knocking for another week. No, can't do math either. January four. That is that in a week. Yeah, because today is January nine. Crap, remember it's less than That's how podcasts work. You record it at a time, Good lor Way, the magic traveling, the wrong in action. I don't know what's going on now. I thought it today, it was today, but today is not today. I guess what. I'm still thirty five. I don't care. Welcome to the year. It's amazing, I guess doesn't feel like I guess I have to say welcome to show, j C. For those that didn't know who, it feels like it's another day. Oh, I think he's having the midle. That coffee is really kicking in for crisis. But I'm on the Frost Show. But I perfetually felt like too loud, too loud speak. But I always thought I felt twenty three pretty much my whole life until I had kids, and I'm like, oh crap, now I got a really adult and now I feel like I'm really an adult now. Maybe because I don't sleep, Maybe that's why I didn't have gids. Yeah, maybe please all right, j C. When we told people that we were coming out with a new podcast, and this show is all about that nostalgia and it's really geared on the boy band World. Every episode we're gonna have a iconic boy band member sitting in this chair and just kind of catching up finding out all about you. So I'm the George Washington of this. You are the George because leaked that we were doing this, of the fans out there were like jac has to be your first guest. Jac has your first guest, Like, okay, jac will be my first. It was that's an easy call for you because you are You didn't have to pull any kind of maneuvers. You don't have to pull any quote unquote any strings. You didn't pull any strings. You just made a phone call. And that was a nice because booking shows like this is hard. Would have my heart because I've lost Nicholas Jay's numbers. So but you know, you are the unicorn to the fans because you don't do any interviews. You you're very private person. I've done your interview before me, but that accounts. Yeah, you're very loose, you know. I mean, am I oh my god, Like the amount of whenever I go like on an Instagram live, I just really people ask some questions about you and I'm like talking about like my dogs or like my hair or I don't know, something that nobody wants to talk about. They're like, have you seen Jay c? And like I just told them all you live in a tree in our backyard and they still like this was like a couple of years ago, and they're like, is he still in the tree. It's been a running joke. Tree in our backyard. I mean, we have a nice tree back there. I's it's got all the little lanterns on it, and I'm sure is it Christmas? Ere right? Oh? Wait, down your decoration on the tree in the back. I can't get back there. But we have like thirty Christmas trees at home. So yeah, did you take them down yet? It's January. Remember they stay for a good month. I mean there's more holidays. My birthday. Well, Easter is coming up, so they'll just be Easter trees. Okay, Well, um, but I'm glad that you did this because the fans will be very, very excited h to hear from you. I feel like we know a lot about So ask me something unimportant. Unimportant that's thrilling, that's thrilling to listen to it is. Yeah, well, I mean that's pretty much what we all talked about on the show. It's just just the most unimportant things ever. But I do feel like I know so much about you, but so many years of pass that I kind of forget a lot of the things. So let's start from the beginning. You are from Bowie, Maryland. Uh yeah, well Maryland, Yeah, okay, multiple cities in that area. Where are you born? What city do you I was born in Washington, d C. Okay, but then I grew up in Maryland. All right, got you? Um, did you know at an early age that you wanted to go into entertainment? Like? Were you always that talented kid in school doing all the plays? And no, I was. I think my grown up personality matches my young personality, believe it or. Not too cool for school, No, not too cool for school at all. Just um, just kind of for lack of a better word, it's I don't know if shy is the right word, but it's close to shy introverted to a better description. Would you say, and I get out there are in the world, Man, I just picked my battles, Okay, I mean it is true. All the fans I was like, we never see him, but I see you a lot. Yeah, I mean, I You're at the house a lot, you come to the bars a lot with us, So it's really weird that I'm like, well, if you just look at I'm not doing it. Yeah, that's the that's I think maybe that that would be the perception, right because I'm not maybe as invested in publicizing my life. Um, it doesn't mean I don't have a life. It just means that I'm more engaged in the moment and the people that I'm with than making sure everyone else knows who I'm with and what I'm doing, the opposite of what an entertainer usually thinks, well, look at me, look at me. It depends on the entertainer, you know. I think there are plenty of people who don't necessarily publicize every aspect of their lives, and they just focus on who they are as people and their craft. Who speaking of entertain inners, you know a lot of people always focus on the negative of everything, right, And you know, I wanted to make the show very positive because we all hear the drama from every single person out there. But I like, that's not fun. It's not fun. It's fun, and we're gonna have some drama on the show. But you know, I like to I like to show a good light on people too. So you know, of all the entertainers that you've been able to work with, you know, mingle with, who would you say you're like your top three that are like, Wow, that's a good that's a good person right there. Well, I know you've been hanging out. I mean, I saw you with Gary Barlow the last couple of years. He seems like he's great. Mark's great. I've spent some time with Mark actually in the studio. That was a while back though, that was just before the world shut down. UM. But I mean, look, that's that's like a crazy question because I feel very fortunate in the fact that I think most of the people that we've met very rarely do you meet someone kind of crappy or jade like. The people that we've met along the way, for the most part, have been very kind and very generous with us in outgoing and and maybe it's because you know, uh, we appeal to something in them. But I feel like most of the interactions that we've had with people that others would consider stars or something, um, have been I've had positive experiences with you know, I would say almost almost all of them, you know. So again, I know it's a boring answer, so it's just say too late, you know. One is it's it's difficult right because we've met a lot of people going back to uh, little Joshua Scott, Um, what music did you listen to as a kid? Um? It was it was very much a mishmash of things. Like you know. Again, we talked about our our grownness and being knocking on the door of middle age, and so we went through all the face is of how um, I don't know why they're still on their prescription. That's why I need them because you're a little blurry now. Yeah, but if I don't wear them, you have you have like a nineteen seventies filter right now. I thought that Barbara Walters filter right now. Um. My first, the first thing piece of music I ever owned, it was a gift and it was like a Christmas gift, and that was the Michael Jackson's Thriller album. And that was a record. And then I went from playing that Fisher Price. I played it on my little Fisher Price kids record player, and I had that and I had a book that had a record and it was called Peter and the Wolf, and so I would listen to the music Peter and the Wolf, and I would turn the page and listen to the story, and then I would play Thriller, and then UM. And then it went to cassettes, and my first cassette was UM it was Paul Simon, UM Grace Land, and then my second cassette was the Beastie Boys, so they're very different. And then UM, when I got my first CD player, The first CD I ever owned was led Zeppelin. The second CD I ever owned was MC Hammer. So you can see the variety that takes place. The nineties were very eclectic. Well so yeah, but I'm so these are these are all in the eighties, you know what I mean. So it's like, yeah, I'm I'm even that much older than you, Lance, Right, he's lucky and I'm talking about up for that. Yeah, yes, oh yeah, totally yeah, set him up for that question. UM, so what was the first concert you went to, believe it or not? UM, The first live show I ever went to that wasn't Church, UM was in Vogue and and uh yeah they were the first thing I saw UM and the and then my second concert was my first concert without a guardian and that was the Red Hot Chili Peppers. So I'm like, I'm all over the place. I'm as, did you ever looking at them on stage? Do you ever think you know what I want to be on that stage? One day? Um? By the time I saw and Vogue, I was working on my first practicing for my first talent show. So that's that's around the time. Like I realistically, I can't even remember. It's like not quite a teenager, you know, a little younger than a teenager. Um, not a girl, not yet a woman. Yeah, something like that basically, Um, and uh we you know that around that time, it's kind of where I would hum songs to myself and one of my friends act really picked up on. He's like, you sing good man. I was like, nah, because I was more comfortable like dancing and copying the videos that I would watch on MTV and stuff like that, and I didn't feel comfortable singing in front of people. But I didn't realize I was actually doing it at first. And then he kind of busted me on it. He was like, bro, he's pretty good. I was like, and you kind of zip it up a little bit and then uh, he you know, another time he noticed me singing again, He's like that's pretty good and he's like, could you sing this? And you know I've tried and sing along with it. And then when we did our talent show for dancing and we won, you know, we entered in another one and he was like, I dare you to sing? And uh so I ended up doing it and I ended up winning. And that's when it was kind of like, wait a minute, you know, this is kind of crazy, and you know the rest of the story is is kind is actually I feel like I've told before. I might even told it to you in the last time. Again, I think I've probably forgotten because I'm way too old now. Yeah, so it's like that's that's another thing, memory anymore of anything. But that's kind of how it all. Yeah. And then now because coming from Mississippi, we never had dreams. Last I saw concerts, but there was never one time I'm going to be that we've never had when we go to sleep at nights darkness, I was just not nice. I was just trying to find a nas girl to get you settled down for yourself. There are other people in Mississippi who probably have dreams. Did not. I didn't know. Am I S S I S s I P P I you keep dreaming. Seriously, do not listen to that nonsense. If you live in Mississippi, just give up. Just give up, guy, that is not nice. Head egg. Look, if I can do something, then you can go so. Um so, once you realize, okay, I'm good at this, I can do this, how far was that before you auditioned for the Mickey mouse Club And how did that audition come about? Because it doesn't seem to me that you be the type of person that I would see this in a newspaper, like, hey, I'm gonna go audition for Mickey mouse Club. So strangely enough, I didn't necessarily think I was good enough. I just enjoyed it, and that was kind of like more the thing. I was having fun with my friends. We were having fun doing it. Winning was great. I would have probably been there if we lost. I don't know if they would have been there if we lost, but like I would have been there if we lost because it was just fun and um so, after I ended up winning the singing bit, and uh, you know, my family kind of you know, saw saw an art of my mother actually was reading the paper because they had papers back then. Um. Yeah, so they would they would come every morning and they would give you, uh facts about the world and what's going on in your city and things like that, and so, uh, she came across a random article and it said that Disney was holding open call auditions for the movie news Hees. Yes, I was gonna bring that off because I did hear that. So they they had an open call for the movie news ees and my mom was like, they need people who can sing and dance. Honey, you just won this thing. Would you want to go? And I was like, yeah, it's great. She goes, okay, but you know, you're it's on a school day, so we're gonna have to get up early go into d C. It's in Washington, d C this audition, so you know, you're not going to be in school. And I was like, yeah, gee, that sucks, you know what I mean. It's like, of course you go. So we ended up going there and they said, you know, they gave the age range for the characters that they were casting, and they said I was either too young or too old for the part that they were casting for that day, you know, because they had a full cast of care which part it was? This was one of my favorite musicals. Well Christian Bale, right, like that's kind of his one of the early things he did. So yeah. So it was like, but they said, listen, you're too old or too young for this. But next door they're doing an audition for a revised version of The Mickey Mouse Club. It's you know, it's been out for a couple of seasons now and they're casting it next door. And the only one I knew about was the fifties one, right, and they had one in the seventies, and I didn't know every twenty years they would like kind of bring it back, which I think they need to bring it back now. They actually they did like an internet version recently. Yeah, but that was just like way to new ag like bring back the classic Mickey mouse Club with a great new Ian because look at the amount of talent that came out of all of those versions from a try and come on, you're having trouble speaking today and they gave you a microphone. Has been a while since up in front of this mic what is going on? But every I mean nothing compared to you. She well, but your class was insane. I mean the amount of people that came out of MMC, the New Mickey Mouse Club. I mean, you have Carrie Russell, have you you have Justin Christina, Brittany, Ryan Gosling. Did you know? And I kind of wanna. I want to know what it was like being a teenager on this huge hit show away from your family. Probably right, you weren't. Your parents didn't move to Orlando, but there there's a lot that went into it, So I want to know the slacious stuff. What happened was everyone like dating everyone, losing the virginity to everyone. It was a bit. It was no you know, we were too young. We were like, we were just so hungry, and honestly, we were amazed that people would let us do this, you know what I mean. They're like, oh, you want to sing and dance, Like, we're gonna We're gonna let you do it all day. You know, you're gonna have to go to school, but then you're gonna get to play with some of the most talented people and that you've ever encountered all day, and then they're gonna be your friends and you're gonna get to hang out with him after work, and then you know, so it was look, it was a it was a real blessing ing um and I look, I look, I look back at that stuff finally, and in the moment, you just think it's fun and it's interesting because one of the stage managers, Dave, used to always say, just don't forget any of this. You don't realize how special this is. And you know, and then and the acting coach, this guy's name was Gary Spats, and you know, because we would always do these comedy sketches and you have to memorize these lines, and so you know, you're working with eleven year old and twelve year olds up to fifteen sixteen year old, and you know they're trying to get you to be comfortable, you know, memorizing lines. And so we would work with this acting coach and you know, he would always you know, at the at the beginning where at the end of the class, just go, you know, hey, man, just remember like have fun out there, and you know, just remember how lucky you are. This is a great thing. And what was that you played a character wipe out? It was a little wipe out. No, I mean I probably sound like him anyway, I'm such a bro. It was more like what California. What was your first solo you got on mmc um. I don't remember the first solo I got. I remember the first video I got. I was like, oh, I'm making a video like MTV but not you know what I mean. So it was it was a song by a band called Nelson, which were twins. Yeah, and there was the song was called love and Affection didn't trans can manage them eventually or I don't know label. Yeah, So that was my first kind of like moment where I was like I just made a video and uh and I had like the cast member, my Lens. She was the love interest and we told a love story in our video and so you know, that was very that was very mature, especially for Disney. Yeah, I mean, but you were you were high school students, I know eventually, Well, your school went through Dr Phillips, right, Well, originally I was at Bullie High and then UM and then I was spending so much time in Florida that I got transferred to Dr Phillips. And did they do school on set or did you actually get to go to the actual high school? Both, so the majority of it was on on set, but what they on site. What they would do is they would take the curriculum from the school. They had a group of teachers called from a company. I mean, am I spinning out of this like boring stuff? It is like they had basically a company called on Location Education that would that would have had a group of teachers that they brought in that were specialists and they would teach the curriculum from our schools. We would have to then learn the curriculum, do all the work, take the tests, and then send it back to the school so they could input it as you know, us taking those classes and things like that. Yeah, is that where you met Joey? Because I know Joey went to Dr Phillips. Also, I know he had like stock m mc bro Are you kidding me? Are you asking me a Joey story right now? My fans? Why did you tell the story? No? I know Joey was an audience a lot, so I figured he was just a stalker. So Joey was actually one of the first people I met when I moved to Florida. Period, Like in my first year in the Mouse Club, I was moving into my little apartment where a few of the other members had gotten apartments as well, and um, and he was like in the outside somewhere and I was but I guess he was like walking. I don't know if he was like walking to the pool or something, because it was like a you know, a whole thing and it had a pool area and in the he saw me unload in my car or something. We were both the same age. I guess he recognized, like, you need some help and I was like, yeah, you know, I'm just moving in. He's like, I'm Joey. And so he actually became one of my first friends ever before anyone when I moved to Florida. I never knew that story. Yeah, he was like swim fan, very swim fan. He was a very like two days. He proves the guys, if you stalk hard enough, your dreams can come true, even if you're from Mississippi. Yeah, dream big. Who on the show got in the most trouble? Like who was the stinker? Um, that's two different questions. Actually, look man, again, I think everybody was pretty dialed in. Everybody was more I would say everybody was more focused on getting a song or getting a sketch, Like everybody was trying to like really get it right. Everybody wanted their shine was a competitive like dance Moments, It wasn't it wasn't that bad. I would, you know what, To be honest with you, the stuff I hear in retrospect, it sounded like the parent room was far more competitive for the kids. And and then this is later in life, like my parents would be like, yeah, they were, they were. They would say yeah, they would have like the TV and the parents would kind of be talking about the other kids into the I was like, really, I was like, we were cool, man. We just wanted to, you know, sing our songs and get in front of the audience and and try to show how we do. You know. See, that's the show I would have watched because Dance Moms. It was brilliant because I mean there's some there's some crazy parents out there, and I could imagine. I always imagine too, because I love Kids Incorporated, which was a little before MMC. I guess it still was going on at the same time. They aired it right before. Yeah, so I remember Kids Incorporated. And of course you know Fergie Mario Lopez. I mean we worked with all those kids, right, because I've cut the songs for Fergi when she was in Wild Market and then um, you know, when I ended up doing Dance Crew, Mario was the host there, so I was like, hey, Kids Incorporated, Mouse Class Man, I came on a half hour after you. Bro See. I just imagined it was always like Kids Inc. Versus MMC, and you'll always kind of like fought, like the Jets in the shows. I think they were around before we were, but I don't know because I came in season four. I wasn't even in season one. And you know, see my my generation was like the part yeah that season they made that group in season three. I think you know, the good old day. See this is bringing back some really good fun. Does this whole thing to be about the I wanted to do a lot because no one ever talks about it, like no one Brittany Christina justin like, here's a full circle moment for you. By the way, so too full circle moments when it comes to the Mouse Club and then we'll drop it. So my first live concert, as I told you, was in Vogue. Rona Bennett, who was I was on the Mouse Club with and joined the same year she joined, is now a touring member in Vogue. I don't know she joined in Vogue and she's been doing it for years and she crushes it. Like, first of all, who doesn't love in Vogue? And then when she got the when she ended up gigging with them and becoming like she's solidified, like she's in the band, like it's she's a band member. And they still tour like crazy and they sing the house down, and it's amazing for me to think, like, Okay, when I was a kid, this is the first thing that I saw alive that would like blew my mind. And now she's doing that, you know what I mean, she's part of that. I was like, that's a gratefull circle, and it turns out the other full circles obviously Richard mars Right. So the song that I sang at my mouse Club audition was Richard Marx right here waiting for You. They because that's what I won the talent show with, right Like, they asked me to go up there and sing, and so I was like, okay, and I had to and uh sing what what I like heard in the car and uh and that song was popular at the time, and uh so I end up getting the I look at it as hey, I got the job because of that song, you know, and then later in life we end up doing Promise with Richard and you were really good friends to this day. Yeah. Absolutely, Look he's amazing and and but that was again another kind of full circle moment that actually tied in all of them, right, because it was like the first audition I ever did, the first thing I ever sang in public, like as a for a talent show, and then it got me the job for Disney, and then we ended up working on it, and so he's been a common thread through all of that. That's so great. Also, after the show, uh is over, you went to I feel like you were doing something with Justin right in Nashville. We're all doing like a project together. Yeah, so we It's funny Justin and I saw talked about this Saturday night because I never even knew what this project was. I just know when Chris called Justin, he was like, well, yeah, group sounds great, but like can j C being a two we're working on something together. It was different. It was everybody remembers it a little different. Um. So I had been in l A recording and working with some of the people that I met a mouse club, like the musical supervisor. I went out and work with him a little bit and saying on some demos and things like that. And then, uh, but it was right before it was time for me to start school, right because I was like, okay, I'm eighteened, I gotta you know, start thinking about college and things like that. So I was driving back across the country, um, and I stopped in Nashville to work with Robin who was the vocal coach on the Mouse Club Vocal Coaches, so who ended up you know, doing some arranging for us and and really helped us harness our sound. Um. But it started with her. I was like, I stopped in and she's like, well, we you know, we should get you in the studio. We should write some stuff, you know. And I was like, oh cool, and she's like, yeah, Justin's you know, I've been working with Justin as well. Y'all should hang out. And I was like, yeah, let's. Even though you were older than Justin, you are pretty close. Because when you have a common language, there is something that overrides all of other things. A lot of things did a lot of differences disappear when you're passionate about something and you can focus on that one thing, and it makes that bond even stronger. So we we recognize, you know, early on, even doing the Mouse Club, that he was a little bit more mature and I was probably a little bit more immature. So but but yeah, but when we got to Nashville, um, I started writing songs with Robin and he was coming from Memphis into Nashville and doing recording sessions with Robin because he wanted to get signed, right and I was looking to make music because I wanted to eventually get signed. But I was I had two things going. I was like, Okay, I gotta go to college, and I'm gonna maybe go for music, maybe go for for something else. I was thinking about a lot of things, but I knew but I always loved music. And Robin was like, you'll regret it if you don't. At least you know, do what you love. So let's just make some music. And so we started doing that, and when Justin popped into work on his song, we started working on each other songs, and next thing you know, we started enjoying it. So then he's like, come back to Memphis. Don't go home yet, Like you know, it wasn't time for school to start. So then I ended up going back to Memphis, and you know, his mom and his dad like welcomed me, gave you know, gave me a room to crash in. And next thing, you know, we're plotting and making music together and and and making demos. And then I was like, all right, here's the plan. You know, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go back to to Maryland and I'm gonna start at my school thing and then like every month or every other month, we'll come back down and we'll start continuing or continue to work on each other's music and make some music because we're happy because we were having fun and um. And as soon as like as soon as I got home basically from that trip I left, he called me up and he goes, so, I have another thing to run by you. I just got this call from this guy, Chris, and he he said that you know, there's this there's a label and and they want a boy band. And he was like there was no turn back then either. You didn't know what a boy band was. So he's like, he's like, uh, they're asked me to do it. But I was like, he's like, do you want to do it? We could do it together. And I was like, I mean, look, I'm willing to check it out. Let's go check it out. And that's how I ended up getting involved. He was like, let's go down there and see what it's about. And long story short because I know most people listening to this will know the story of InSync, but for you knew, but he's out there. So yeah, Chris wanted to put well, kind of got upset he didn't get to audition for the Baxter Boys because he went to school with Howie d um So he went to trans Con, which was lou Pearlman, and said, hey, if I put a group together, will you support us? And so that's when he called justin and then he was with you. Then you ran into Joey I think at eight Tracks maybe a Pleasure. It wasn't a pleasure. He was actually he's walking around in Pleasure Island. He was allowed in everywhere you went, and it was amazing, you know, because it was like it was like I had been there a day, you know what I mean, Like I was back in like Florida, like maybe your day or two. And he looked at me, like, what are you doing in Florida? I thought you left, like the mouth clubs over Da Da Da go. Yeah, I moved away, I said, but uh, we we're putting together a band. He's like, oh, I'm in a band and I was like, uh, well, our band is gonna be better. Is that the one he was with Louis Fons, Yeah? Yeah, so what they called this something guys the big guys are like something like that and and that's horrible. Um but so he was in the band with them, and uh and we were like, well, you know, we're we're calling all of the favors it. And I was like, we've got a guy, you know, we we're calling in, like, we got Robbing coming down to help us work on our sound. We're working with a choreographer, Miles that used to do the We're calling in all the mouse club people. We're gonna put a demo together. And he's like, We're like, you know, we need we need another voice, man, we need he's for a bass singer. At the time, we were like, you know what we all sing, you know, fairly high, you know, um and then uh no, you look that makes you you know, irreplaceable man. But um so yeah, I mean, long story longer, Yeah, and there we go. So yeah, that's how we all got to go. And then I knew Justin through a vocal coach and recommended me a bass singer to come down. Still don't know why I'll chose me, but here I am because I did not know had a dance at all. They needed another blonde guy and you're like, oh, he's blonde. Yeah when I wouldn't have the frosted tips then, but still no. I had orange hair then thanks to the thanks to whoever did my hair when I first joined in sync, because they were like, oh, you need me more blonde, and then it just turned orange and it was like a really greasy comb over. It was not pretty. Hey, I was going through my you know, awkward teenage years that look at you now and look at me now so much he still has the exact same as we speak. I'm still really uncomfortable around. So those uh, the first year that we were together, you know, we I didn't know what was going on. Seriously, I was sixteen years old. Y'all had been doing this for a while, so I didn't know what the future of the group was. I know that, you know, there were high hopes we would get a record deal. Right, that didn't happen. It took us a little bit um we had. But I think any any any creative business. And this is what you learned through life, right through the through the long lens. You hear no a lot more than you hear yes. For a long time. You only get yes to death after everybody sees you get that win, You get a win, and all of a sudden the yes has come too much, right, people, yes you yes, you to the point where it's not healthy. So you know it's but before that real moment, everyone says no because you know it's a bet, it's a gamble. You know that everyone kind of fears the unknown unless they feel like it is a sure thing. And what is a sure thing? Right? You have to have an opinion about it. It's it's like it's not math like for some people it might be, but it is about feel and humans feel and that's you know, music and moments, their feelings. There's no they make no sense really, you know, it's like it's a zite guys, and it's a movement and it's like what is that? Why? Why? Why are bell Bottoms cool in the seventy is in not the eighties, you know what I mean, Like, why do people like guitar based stuff and want for one decade and then like eight oh eight's the next. You know, It's like there's no rhyme or reason, it's just a feel. And people don't want to gamble, they want a sure thing. So that's why you have to appreciate the people who take risks based on their inner truth. Like you have to be thankful for those people because they're the ones that are innovating instead of just playing it safe to the status. And you know, something that I didn't think would ever happen to us. And again, sixteen years old, I didn't know anything about the music industry, but I had no idea that we would even be able to sign to a German label. One. I didn't know that they even had English speaking music on the radio. But all of a sudden, you know, we've exhausted all the labels in America. No one wanted to sign us, right, no one's gonna listen to that stuff. Then all of a sudden, Munich, Germany calls and they're like, no, we love groups like this and we want to sign you. In the next week. We were basically on a plane to Germany. What was that like for you? Was that a surprise to you or were you like, oh, yeah, that's that's normal. I Look, I was in the same boat as everybody else, Like I had done the only thing I had done before that in in my first trip to Europe was a USO tour. So in the Mouse Club we did some USO performances for troops. But look, it was just a matter of of having outreach, right, Like you know, so I had been to Germany before that, and uh, but when I went, and there was still a bit of it, you know there years later, um, because I would say like four or five years passed by between then and the last time I was there, it was like there when I was there, it wasn't really pop music. It was like pure technically. It was very techno. And so and look you here it in our very first record. We're working with European producers and we're trying to put our American sound and mix it with the European sound, and that it was an experiment, right, We were trying things because it was like we were so excited to to be in like in the mix, right, we were like, oh, somebody's giving us a chance, and then you get taken to a place that is so different from yours, and all you want to do is dive headfirst into it. You're like, I want all of this. I You're so like, what is this music you're listening to? And some of it you love and some of it you hated, but you wanted to know more because it's like it's new information. It's not the same thing. So when you go home, you're like, I got the new new. Like we would come back to Florida, remember, and we had just like sold out an arena or something, and we'd be like, there were thirty thousand people and then and they would go, what are you talking about? I don't even know your last name? Like, you know, my friends were still in high school. And I come back, I swear to god, there's like two thousand people chasing our busses everywhere. They're like, yes, we're un get that. But it was it was great, Like it taught us, you know what. I'm so glad we started there because we weren't ready yet. We weren't ready, we didn't really find our complete sound yet. We were toying. Obviously, we were influenced by Boys, the Men, and a lot of R and B. Right, So that's we did a lot of acapella. But when we started, when we were able to afford actual tracks, we were toying around with all kinds of stuff, and yes, living in a foreign country, we were still trying to find ourselves. But we were so lucky to have been in this moment of time to have found the Dennis Pop, Max Martin of it all in Sweden. Um, so we would record in Sweden. That's where our first hits were recorded, and that was the Sharon Studios. Dennis Pop, you know, unfortunately passed away not too many years after we recorded those first songs, but Max Martin kind of took this and ran with it and still to this day, right some bops. When we when we met with Dennis and Max and everyone there in Sweden, did you know how much of a powerhouse they would be? And did you learn a lot as a writer yourself? Did you get to learn anything from the share on guys? You know, you never know? You just excited again. It's just a it's a it's instincts. Everything is instincts. And let me think being there there was just an energy while we were there and so you could feel that. Now you don't know how people are going to accept it, but you know that you like what you're doing. That's that's kind of the best you can do. You know. You just again, you just have to you just have to try. You just have to trust your instincts and try. And if you don't like it, leave it alone, man, and if you like it, go for it. Remember they would play us some songs, you know, for the next album whatever, And there was one song they played as it was baby when the Lights got Baby when the Lights and I was like, you know, it's it's a good song, but we ended up passing on it. Thank goodness, because I think that's when we got bye Bye Bye out because we passed on Yeah, Like I did like that, but it was it was just you know, the story behind that was by Bye wasn't originally for us? Was it for Backstreet? Who was? It was four or five? So we swapped songs. I think that's the story that Christian told me. I could I could be remembering it wrong, but I feel like he told me years ago. He's like, you know that that was originally for another pop and it was the UK band and and they passed on it, and so we pitched it to you and like the first time we heard it, like you know, every was like, yeah, okay, we're recording that. You know, that's crazy to think of all the different artists that could have sung some of our most most it was famous songs out there, right. I wish there was an album that we could put all these artists be like, well this was originally pitched to them, but now they recorded. Yeah, there's so many think about think about all the actors that passed on movie roles. You know, it's like, who wish that just turned down the biggest pay day ever? Matt Damon. Yeah, it was like baby More More Time was for TLC. Yeah, gosh, I mean you are an incredible writer right now, what let's go for people out there that are really wanting to get in the business and their writers out there. Give us some tips. Here we go into our frosted tips segment. Ready, okay, give us some frosted tips on maybe three on how you right? What the process? Like? What do you Okay? So first, there is no process. I crawl into the fetal position. I'm writing this down. I cry. Oh so I'm a writer all right, every day and then I cry some more, and then I blow my nose and then I cry some more. Yeah, I feel it processed on like z gen Z likes to you know, they feel like to feel the emotion and everything ing. Um, there's no one way to do it, you know. Again, And I've said this already like a thousand times on our cover in our conversation, and it's actually something that that the just me and I were speaking about again. I told you the other night. It's like everything is it's about instincts, and your instincts are are basically a barometer. I think these these are just thoughts and opinions, but um, it's a barometer for truth. What is what rings true to you? What? What is what is ringing that thing inside of you? And why would it ring it? Because it feels truthful to you. So when you hear a song, you're like, oh, I feel that they must have really felt that, you know, and or something like it. You can you can feel it. And it's that to me is everything. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter that like how where you start, right, It doesn't matter if you start with a lyric or you start with the melody, or you start with a drum pattern, or you start with the guitar, whatever you start with. What matters is when you're listening to it and while it's happening, does it feel true? Do you like, start with a melody or a lyric lance you're not listening to me. It's a feeling, a feeling. But like with me, it's like it's always a title. I mean, I don't write music that much at all, but like when it comes to TV and film, it always starts with a title for me, and then I just this title comes and then I just create this whole world around it. So again, I think every song has its own journey. Now, some happen a lot the same and some you know, again, depends on every writer. I would say every writer's process is different. My process is different almost every time. You have a huge note section, and I do have a crazy amount of voice memos and notes. But you know, it also comes from a conversation, like we could probably talk, I could. I would Here's an exercise that I've done with other writers in the past. I'll just go yo man or whoaman or they. I would say, we have to write something today. What's going on in your life. Would you like to know what's going on in mind? Let's throw up you know, it's like, let's just put it all out there and when something, when that bell goes off, will know it will start. You'll start to feel the conversation bounce faster and faster and faster and faster. And so that's one process, right, to just get a conversation going. Another process is to sit down with an instrument and to noodle around until something starts to feel like it's coming together. Um, but again it's it's different every time, you know means so yeah, all right, let's take a little break right here, and we come back. We're gonna some fun things. Turkey Church and has the fan questions so many, I'm sure this will be I think there's some funny ones on there. So we'll be right back with frosted tips and we are back with j I'm talking all over. Your intro started right ahead. This is a very natural show, a natural show. I don't feel natural. You look very natural. I am actually very natural. I have been showered in weeks alright, Turkey Church, and it is your time to shine. Um, you've been talking, by the way, I have showered, clear that up, brushed my teeth? I showering. Um, so you know he gets lots of messages on his d m s and do get d M Yeah, because you're social media. I would love to read a couple of those d ms. I don't make it read them over here. Yeah yeah, I mean you're you're okay, yeah, you're horrible at social media, but at least you're on it now. Like once in a while, like like if I'm with someone, they'll go, you should put something up And I'm like, right now, why don't you get someone to do it for you? We have a whole team. Well sometimes sometimes I'll get ye all that for it. They'll go, come on, man, people want to know what you're doing. And I'm like, why would anybody care about a base? They care? Recently I did. I made one video because I was like, they were like joining. I was like, okay, fine, how do you do it? Wait? What's your TikTok? Is just at j You may be perfectly honest, I can't remember remember one of those number ones it Jac says they and to score sixty nine is all right, Let's get to what the fans want to know. Um. Well, first of for First of all, um, the fans want to know, you know, you don't have kids, but what is it like being a daddy? Because the Twitter's fear the all of the spheres, They're like jay C is a sober you can't even like what what's it like being as daddy? Or or as through the post you can't see what's going on pictures everywhere, or or if you you know, associate more with Zaddy that's fine as well? Is way more fun? Is it? What's it like being a zaddy? The fans want to know? Um, well you know, uh no, we don't know. That's why I masked. Okay, Well it's it's harder to wake up in the morning, you go to bed earlier. Um, I have Honestly, I don't even know how to answer that question. I'm so uncomfortable the fans have to answer that question. What's it? You know? Why is he a daddy? Why is he? I will I'll say this, I adopted a dog and and so that has been fun and challenge and challenging but mostly fun. So right, yeah, I'm thankful every day that he's healthy. I'm thankful. Yeah, he's still biting people. No, no, he might growl. He's you know, he's he'll let you know when he's not into what you're saying or doing that. He's very expressive. Alright, turkey, you've stopped him on being a zaddy. Think about that one. Another big fan question is do your arms still look that sexy? No, this was an extual question, absolutely not. Wait do your arms still look look that sexy? Sex? I don't. I've toned down the working out. I just keep it to like an hour for a while. There you're going to jump a lot. I was going a lot. But now I've I've I've become reasonable and I'm enjoying my life more than making my body hurt, because you know, look, when you train hard, next thing, you know, you're like you're having problems with with muscles and joints and things like that. And so so now I exercise for health, not for looks. I'm injured at all times, and I don't even work out that hard like at all. We know, we know I purely work out for looks. Yeah it's a thing. No, I don't, it's for health. Okay, moving on, moving on, there's so many questions, not doing all of them. Just I know I know the paper. No, this is a summer like you know, how about this? Uh, describe your perfect day? Okay, since everyone thinks, uh, you're such a private guy, tell us a day in the life, Joshua Scott. I mean everything in between doesn't matter. The There's like three things that I care about honestly in life, and that is the happiness and health of my family, happiness and health of my loved ones, and then would we be considered your loved ones? And then um, and honestly being proud of something that I've worked on. Like the rest is kind of like I care about a lot of things. But if you like, what's the most important. You want health and happiness for your loved ones and family, And then you want to feel like you're contributing in a positive way. What's something that you feel very proud of that you've been a part of. I mean, look just about anything. Again, I'm proud to be my father's excuse me, yeah, the son of my father, the son of my mother. You know, I'm proud to be a brother to my sister and brother and and all my family. Like again, it's like accomplishments are basically in my mind and it's it's a bit not even spoiled to say, because we have been very fortunate in our lives to be successful, you know, And so some people would say success, success is, you know, again, not having to worry about how you're gonna eat the next day. That's that's that's bare minimum, right. But the things that I've been most proud of are just feeling good about what I'm doing, right, It's it really is a simple thing. You just want to feel good about what you're doing. Okay, here's another very hard hitting question, very hard to do you still use a flow bee for your hair? Yeah, yeah, I'm glad I cut my hair two weeks ago with the flow because last time we interviewed you, yes, we found out that you actually use a flow beef those lots of those precious was this This wasn't even a COVID thing. It wasn't. No, it was I got it. I got it as a gag gift on my birthday when I turned by the way, I'm in my forties now, and when I go on my twenty ninth birthday, it was. And by the way, when they bought it to give to me as a gag gift, it was vintage. I mean it had like you know, reused tape and all this stuff all over it. So I got somebody else's flow bath, which is kind of disgusting when you think about it. But but yeah, so I gotta hand me down flowby as a joke. And then one at one point I was like, you damn me to use it like and then all sudden I was like, it's not so bad. It kind of feels good. It's like it's like that it makes your head nice and cool because the hair is rushing, and all of a sudden, you're like, and I'm accomplishing something because I'm I feel good and I'm getting a haircut, and you're getting a nice even haircut, and I'm doing it by myself. I'm not bothering anybody. That is one thing I remember about you on the road. You loved getting your hair washed at a at a salon, like to get a haircut like this. You're the one who taught me, like you gotta get the hair washed, you gotta get there. I'm like, I never did that before, Like this is you didn't dream big. I didn't know you could get your hair washed. I mean I went to you know, a barber. Yeah, you'd like your hair. What I'm my lord, I didn't drink Yeah, now I'm obsessed with it. Yeah. Any others you got, Like what's the last big splurreds? Like I always like to know, like different, what have you splurged on last with his clothing or something a big purchase? You're not a big splurge, No, I'm not. You've been in the same house since I feel like Lance likes the guy by Shoes, since I came to the picture. I'm not like a I'm not a thing person. Um, but I'll splurge on experiences. Right, So it's like when uh it's nice, I like creating memories with people and so that that that's the splurge thing, right. So if i'm if, it's a travel thing usually. So let's let's get into your first album. Um, because it's so weird to think back then, A lot of people are like, wow, it's so risque, right, Oh my gosh, it's such a departure for Jason. It's funny because today there's no way that album could be risque like at all. But when it did come out and you were coming at the end of you know, it was a different time. You were just coming out of a boy band and it was a little bit of a departure. Um, how did that process go where you? Did you want something that sounded completely different from in sync, that was more yourself? But I mean, did you or did you even like Carrot? It's just whatever came flowing out of it. There were two There were two things that I was thinking about when I was making that record. And the one thing, you know, was look, I just wanted it to be good. I wanted to be interesting, um, because the artists that I've liked I always found were interesting in their storytelling. Um. And the other thing that I wanted to do was go wherever it was that was next. I didn't want to make a record that I had already made, if that makes sense. I didn't want to make something that I had already done. I was looking for, like what's next? And how do you find what's next? It just what you brain? Or do you get influenced by listening to artists in Germany? Um? I just think it's it's a combination of all things. You just kind of have to listen to the world around you, and you also again trust your instincts and play like don't don't. I would say, do what you did before. If your pattern was to, you know, start this way, try doing try starting somewhere else. So if if you nine times out of ten started writing a song with a word in mind, this time right, you know, start it, you know again, with an instrument instead, And and so I think that was part of it. And then it was also like, Okay, everyone is making songs that sound like this, they're using the same sounds. Like everyone's using the same sounds, So let me find a collection of sounds that I like that aren't the same sounds that everyone else is using. And then let me build something a body of work around maybe a few of these things. And that's kind of where I started, and who knows where I ended up. I mean, I look at it now, and there's go It made sense to me. But you know, and what was the reason you didn't want to do a follow up album where you just kind of over it? At that point I started, I started to I've recorded a few things, and then it was just kind of like, if you're not in love with what you're doing at the time, like you if you're not committed and you're not all in, You're gonna waste everyone's time. And so I was getting to the point where I didn't feel like I was innovating. I felt like I was making part two of the thing that I are already done. And uh. I experimented for a while with it, but then it just it didn't feel like I was moving the conversation forward. I felt like I was having the same conversation and that didn't make me happy. So well as an outsider, I you know, looking at your album, I was pissed on how JIB did it. And I can talk about job now because they're no longer around, but I saw what they did with Justin's album, I saw what they did with your album, and I was like, are they purposely trying to like sabotage you in a way because I did not see the same effort with your role out than his, And I'm like, what the hell is going on? And then there's the and see if this rumor is true the whole Pro Bowl thing. You were supposed to do the Pro Bowl, I think with your first launch, and then they canceled it because of the Janet Jackson boom thing. Is that true? I didn't say yes, but that's I mean, that's the rumors. Man, that's not that you're just stupid. You're gonna like cancel something over here just because someone you're related to did something way over here. You say that though, but look people have like it's look, you just got punished for someone else. That just that's so stupid to me. But that's not on anyone. We're not the decision makers, right, We're the guests in that situation. So I understand that, and I understand that people have to have a bit of a reaction to to do what they think is right. And I'm I'm not I'm not the kind of person who cries over spelled milk or punishes anybody for for for something, you know, that's what we're here, that's gonna say. That's no. I just think it's kind of like a series of unfortunate events, right, Like that's just the way I view it. It's like, hey, man, it happened. Well, it's a big thing on the Twitter and everything is has tag justice for j C. It's a really big thing. Justice for j C is the trending hashtag is nice over the Pro Bowl. No, just not in terms of all of it. I mean you do. You trend a lot. I mean when when we did Coachella, you know, a few years back. I mean, you are the number one trending thing for a couple of days. I mean, how did that must have filmed? Great? Don't even know that, Like, how do you count? You're not on social media, so you don't really know what's going on, especially at that time. I don't think you even had a TikTok. Just singularly you were trending for, not even think it was j C was trending. So, I mean the fans they want it, they want it. So are you is there anything that they're going to be able to listen to from you in the next few years? Are you working on any even like a single or something else for someone else? It's it's interesting. Look, I'm always were, you know, being creative, and I've written a few things that you know, actually I found out recently might find a home with some pretty interesting people. Um. But the thing, the thing that I've been committed to over the last year or two now two years, Um, I've been writing a musical and so I wonder if we could talk about that. I mean, I don't know how much we can say about it. But that's been a really fun thing for me. Um. So it's a totally different experience because you know, you're tying in so many pieces, um, and you have to be really clever about it feeling natural. Um. You know, when you're dealing with the musical, the worst thing that you can do, at least in my experience in watching some musicals, it's like some you're like, where did that come from? Like why did they just bust out to that? You know, and when you watch a good musical, it feels natural. And so that's been a fun part of the process. And uh, those take years. Well I didn't know this at the time. When I started it. I just look, it was something that I was inspired by, and so I went in, you know, full speed. And then you know, now that I'm in it like a year and a half or whatever, it's going to be, you know, two years in the summer. Uh. Yeah, they they told me when I played I literally played it for the first time for somebody like just a little while back. I played the first piece and we have a full body of work, but it's we're making some changes now. But um, I was like they were like, okay, so here's the process. Actually you know it. It was I went and saw Juliet, it was Max. So when I was talking to Max and he's like, he goes, so this thing took me eight years. And I was like, what, You're the big a songwriter on earth. He goes, this, this took me eight years to make. And I'm thinking, okay, well, people take a year. Some people make an album in six months. Average people take like they like to take a good year, maybe two. And that's old school mentality. So when he told me the musical took you know, by the way, not to get made, but to make it to Broadway. So he was he was up in London. I went and saw the premier in London. Years yeah, and then he just did it up in New York and I went and I saw him there and actually got to chat with him a bit, and and he's like, yeah, this this like eight years. And I was like, yeah, because once the book is done, then you gotta work like previews and all that. I mean, who knows where you're gonna do that. Vin Hanson he was working on it for and then to even get it to Broadway, to even find a theater that you can get into. It's just it is an undertaking. It is, but I'll tell I'll tell you this. It's been some of the most fun I've had in forever because you know, look, I like the subject matter and so um to to get into that stuff every day and find ways to connect it emotionally, there's been a ton of fun. It's it's been exhausting and exciting at the same time. It's it's a great story. It's about Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer. It's not, but it's a new telling where he was on crack for a bit, and so it's coming back to turn. I mean, you're a deep writer. Okay, one question before we take a break, and then we're gonna co back. Because we always like to always like it's our first show. We're always going to like to end with. Am I gonna set a precedent? Are you call my friend? But we have um an old I think Bob magazine quiz. I don't want to see if you're guarantee you I fail this. What's your favorite color? I like rainbows? But before we go there, everyone wants to know. Of course, we're still in our high atis coming from you. Do you think we'll ever do anything again, anything ever, anything, Sure, okay, but I'd have no idea when or what it is. All right, yeah, man, it's like because I'll never forget an MTV Christmas special. And it was we had already decided we were going to go on our six month hiatus, so we're doing it in Orlando, the Christmas Special and uh, we were upstairs and it was in a hotel room, but it had an upstairs and we were on the bed and that's when Justin came to us and said, Hey, on our time off, I'm gonna work on our solo album. We're like, yeah, that's awesome. And I remember you you commented to me, You're like, oh, I think that might be the end. And I'm like, what I thought? That was so like, that's ridiculous, not even think and it was how are you so insightful? At like that time. I think it's just it felt like the evolution. Yeah, yeah, it felt so naive. It was it was look, it was, it was it was the journey, and I think it it happened the way it was supposed to happen. That's that's the reality of it. And you could feel it and uh, but you know, look again, I I don't think you know that anything is happening right now. Obviously it's not. But yeah, you know, but for for such a long time ever, it was like never never, never, never never. But then then you realize as you get older, maybe maybe you just soften up a bit and you're like, it's probably a never, but I won't say never, So I don't know. That's probably the best way to say. So fans hate that answer. Yeah, well, alright, come back, We're gonna see if j C here and matches. Oh you're doing it to me too, or I guess I'm getting quiz to let's see if we're still the same from right back. Welcome back to Frosted Tips. All right, we got j C. Shose with us on our very first episode. Alright, Turkey church in here. My lovely over there just passed me his page. Wait, you're gonna ask me the question. No, I just want to see the picture here. Now, those are some real frosted tips. Those are the money of the tips. You know, I did my hair like that. I remember that era because he loves from Aqua. Come on, I was obsessed. Might have had a crush on him, uh, and I wanted my hair just like his, So I went away. I thought you were obsessed with Susan powder. Yes, and Susan powder. And apparently Sarah Michelle Geller that was my go to who's your crush? Sarah Michelle Geller? That was it just because she's every man's dream and she's so hot and I want to like, she's going hello Buffy the Vampire last Yeah. Yeah, we just ran into her and I oh, she was at that wedding we went to. She was, He was Freddy Prince, still going strong, going strong. Okay, give it to us. So here's a quiz from their simple questions. I think it's from right, is this team machine? Bob uh? It's teen teen something? Speaking of how did uh scootle Braun? You know he bought bought magazine and teen Machine and all those teen magazines not too long ago, and then they all went away. I wonder why. But he couldn't do anything with it since he has such the young artist, right, I mean he might be cooking something up. You don't know. Okay. The other thing is is it would you ask him? He's not a boy band. He can't be on frost of tips. Did he have frost to tips? I guess you can be on the show if you had frost of tips. So, Ryan Seacrest, you can't have all these rules. Man, you better open up. You better. If you want guests, you better keep your door open. I mean, there is a finite amount of boy band members out of this say you will have to can be a boy banded jay because you could. Yeah, you're gonna, You're gonna. You should probably talk like you said to to managers. People would probably want some insight in that. You might want to talk to choreographers. You might want to talk to people girls who have dated boy banders and get all the real guy talk to Gloria over there. Oh that was a hot little minute. Y'all dated. Okay, here's another thing I did not know, because you you know, Justice dated all kinds of starletts, you know, even was the you know, the most visible. But he was telling me that you dated Tara Reid. We were friends. Because I was like, I don't remember that. He goes I swear. I'm like, I don't know, but it was when I was over in Russia, So I'm like, well, maybe he had this little brief they definitely dated. By the way Terry read, have you checked her TikTok out lately? You'll need to be TikTok friends. Well, well, yeah, that was that would be that would be a thing. Well it's a thrill. I just I'm not gonna make comments on it. See it. Wait what is her TikTok like? I don't know, But there's a second there's a second time in the Britney Spears to talk about Brittany. I would kind of like to bring that up. Um, well, especially now, I just feel like, you know, mental health is such a huge thing that everyone is finally discussing and talking about. And you know, this business can be hard. I mean you have to have a thick skin, which most people don't, um, and it can just affect you. Uh, and we see that with people like you know, Amanda Binds, you know what Brittany is going through and uh, Kanye West right now, Um, you know that there's something, there's something off right. And my thing that I keep seeing that's making it worse is you know, and we love you fans out there and their majority incredible fans, but I think there's that little section of fans that enable people like a Kanye West and a Brittney spears, especially on social media, and I think that can be, you know, like a little dangerous. So what's your take on like the Kanye West thing right now? If you don't have anything nice to say? Yes, shut up? Yeah, yeah that's what That's what I like it. And on that note, let's get to the nineties quiz. Um, all right, we'll go back and forth. I'll sit over here. Um yeah, start with ceover here. Okay, Well they're pretty easy, they're just straightforward. I could favorite this favorite that. Um. I like this one because I like Lance's answer here. Um. Yeah, that's what I was about to ask. What are the qualities you look for in a girl? Um? Okay it she has to be sweet. Um, I'm pretty sure I was very I'm gonna love your answer because clearly you're afraid of girl sex. I like a good girl, someone who's very innocent, very innocent, very religious, that wants to wait until marriage. Yes, is that what I said? Yeah? Okay, I want a good girl who was very innocent. And I still say that today, perfect j C. What do you look for your your number one quality in a woman? My number one quality in a woman. Uh, he said boobs. It was a boobs. No, okay, it wasn't. No, it's not joey honestly, first everything else like whatever, Yes, that was one of you said, confidence, patience, and honesty. Look at you consistent? Okay, okay, we got that. What were your favorite hobbies back then? You listed three? I listed three hobbies? Um, probably sleeping, sleeping and sleeping. He was a sleeper listening. You liked football, swimming, and karate swimming. Wait what karate? Football? Swimming and karate? What did you do? I never did karate? So they literally made that answer up. I don't know. I didn't feel that part out right now. Swimming it must have been because when we were all like lived in that house, we had a pool in the backyard. But that makes no sense, Like Lance, what was your favorite hobby? Oh, definitely jet skiing, Yes, that was it. Did you not peak at this? No? Because it still is one of my favorite hobbies. Because when was the last time you wrote? A jet ski? Not too long ago? It was in the ocean in Portafarta years ago, many many cod Yeah, three years ago. It's my favorite, Like it's my favorite thing. I've done it twice and I haven't done it in years, and I can go anytime I want. Yeah, it's true. What's your favorite film? Uh? That changes a lot right now? Man, what was it? What was it in ninety, in the nineties or whatever, two thousands, it's going to be Star Wars, I'm guessing, but now it's it's totally anything. I mean, by the way, no, no, no, because I still don't get me wrong, I love Star Wars. But now I've turned into that person that it's like the next film that you see is like your favorite film, like, oh, it's so good you know pants? You know what his answer? God, I hope so's clue? Um, your yeah, clue. I'm a huge fan of that film. It still is my favorite movie. Though this year it was that I can't ever remember the title everywhere everything so good, sauage fingers. God, it was just a surprise, like, holy crap, that was a movie. Who's your favorite movie? Stars? Movie stars? We see again? It was singular. It would change now you had to I had to. Um, I'm gonna say probably probably if I like Star Wars, I'll probably say Harrison Ford one, and then um, who would be the other actor? It's going to be Hillary Swank put Meg Ryan because because I used to, like, you know what, I used to love those little rom com French. I mean, I've pretty much had a crush on Meg Ryan. I'm sure, but I bet, I said Julia Robertson Tomas No, you said terror read just now you said Tom Hanks. Okay, what's your favorite food now? Or then? Then? Okay? Because see again you're so I have to get it. I'm talking to you as if you are like years this is the new me, that's the old mean, we don't look back. We don't look back. Wasn't my favorite back then? Any any it's gonna be something. It's going to probably be like an Asian food maybe, yeah, yeah, Chinese? That was it? Lance, what was your favorite food? You're Italian? Like French toast? Yes, the Lances. Basically, what this proves is Lance is not evolved. I have not evolved at all. Then we have that's two more question. It's this thinks this is very vague. Loves you love dogs? J C. Wrote Shakespeare. I do know Shakespearean karate it was you know, it's like you go through phases though, right like you're like you're learning about your crash. So it's like I was going through a Shakespeare fans But my Greek phase was probably like three or four years. I was obsessed with all the Greeks. Ce. J C was the one you wanted to marry, and I was the one who wanted to be best friends. That was also a popular hashtag Mary and j C. That's the thing on on the social not the one you think you'll ever get married. You're just you're not. You're There's so many of my friends that are like, no, never ever want to be That's a that's a weird question for me, would it I don't know. Yes, I just if they wanted it more than you. I don't know. That's a loaded question. I'm not I'm not. I'm not touching. The next episode, um and then hates hates um anything bad. You said your hair? Well, yeah, you hated the Frosted Tips and now you have an entire program that was right after my Orange come over. So yeah, I hated it. And j hates liars liars. He likes honesty guys, unless unless they know karate Kate. Oh, j C. It was so good having you on our first episode of Frosted Tips. It was my worst nightmare. Well that's what that's what we're here for. Is there anything that you would like to tell these lovely listeners out there that we didn't get to talk about. Anything you want to say, Hey, this is coming out, you should see this? Or is there a movie you like? You know, or a flavor of ice cream they should try see. This is for the camera. They held me in this room captive for hours. I had no way out. They locked the door. My jeans are glued to the chair. I'm not gonna as we have. We have peanuts and and pretzels, so we're good. We could be here and they ran out of coffee. Well sorry, all right, see you so let me out. Very good to see you, but we do have to shout out a J. McLean is his birthday today? All right, guys, Well we'll see you next time on Frosted Tips lands Bass. Hey, thanks for listening. 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