Steve & Ephraim talk about Steve’s recent trip to Notre Dame and E. gave Hartman some knowledge he couldn’t find in a book! Why is better to lose early in the College season? The fellas discuss the big game between Ohio State & Penn State, and Ephraim was right about Tom Brady! They update you on the College landscape, have a Heisman Update with Steve & Ephraim has a prediction. Oklahoma State is getting smoked by Kansas State & our NFL insider Adam Caplan joins the show to talk everything football! Plus, NFL owners who are not good people & some NFL picks!