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Well, good evening to you as we head into a Sunday night. And everybody knows the rule if you've ever played baseball from a young age, tie goes to the runner.

Well, good evening to you as we head into a Sunday night. And everybody knows the rule if you've ever played baseball from a young age, tie goes to the runner.

Right.

Right.

Well, in this particular case, as we take a look at a few of the basketball series that are out there, it's not really the case. The tie does not go to the runner. I'm gonna explain that a little bit more in a little bit. We're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. But there's only one way to start tonight, only one way to start. And first of all, good evening to you. Eat from Salam, good evening to you. But h Mark Willard, thank you. This is all the rest of the night is all dedicated not to you, not to me, but to any ladies out there who have ever had cared for and raised a child. Happy Mother's Day to each and every one of you that happens to be listening to the sound of our voices right now.

Well, in this particular case, as we take a look at a few of the basketball series that are out there, it's not really the case. The tie does not go to the runner. I'm gonna explain that a little bit more in a little bit. We're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. But there's only one way to start tonight, only one way to start. And first of all, good evening to you. Eat from Salam, good evening to you. But h Mark Willard, thank you. This is all the rest of the night is all dedicated not to you, not to me, but to any ladies out there who have ever had cared for and raised a child. Happy Mother's Day to each and every one of you that happens to be listening to the sound of our voices right now.

Happy Mother's Day. This is the place with moms come to get entertained.

Happy Mother's Day. This is the place with moms come to get entertained.

That I pitched that motto and it got turned down, but I'm not gonna give up I'm not gonna give up, man, That's that's what I'm going for. But how did you how'd you celebrate today?

That I pitched that motto and it got turned down, but I'm not gonna give up I'm not gonna give up, man, That's that's what I'm going for. But how did you how'd you celebrate today?

Hey man, I celebrated with my beautiful wife and my mother in law, and and all we did was everything they wanted exactly right.

Hey man, I celebrated with my beautiful wife and my mother in law, and and all we did was everything they wanted exactly right.

That's how we celebrate.

That's how we celebrate.

And you're very lucky that it sounds like they wanted to be with you.

And you're very lucky that it sounds like they wanted to be with you.

That is true, and that I always give my wife the option. I said, hey, you tell me, I can take us and we can disappear. Yep, it is whatever you want. And she every year without fail, she wants to spend time with us.

That is true, and that I always give my wife the option. I said, hey, you tell me, I can take us and we can disappear. Yep, it is whatever you want. And she every year without fail, she wants to spend time with us.

What a wonderful lady. And and I think that also speaks highly of the rest of y'all too well. I know I know by the moms now that they're like that mom days off, so like see you later, I'm going off to And no, shad't no judgment. But if you want to go have a massage, and you want to go to spa or the swimming pool of the beach, you just want to be with the ladies and leave it, that's fine. I totally get it. And maybe the best thing to do is is split the difference a little bit and you got a whole day, do a little bit of both.

What a wonderful lady. And and I think that also speaks highly of the rest of y'all too well. I know I know by the moms now that they're like that mom days off, so like see you later, I'm going off to And no, shad't no judgment. But if you want to go have a massage, and you want to go to spa or the swimming pool of the beach, you just want to be with the ladies and leave it, that's fine. I totally get it. And maybe the best thing to do is is split the difference a little bit and you got a whole day, do a little bit of both.

Old day.

Old day.

But those parents on Mother's days, father's days, if they actually want to spend time with the family, that I think that speaks well of everybody, doesn't it.

But those parents on Mother's days, father's days, if they actually want to spend time with the family, that I think that speaks well of everybody, doesn't it.

Yes, yes, it does. So good job dad, Wow, thank you?

Yes, yes, it does. So good job dad, Wow, thank you?

You know. Yeah.

You know. Yeah.

And I wake up early, I get my boys prepared, and I tell.

And I wake up early, I get my boys prepared, and I tell.

Them, do not do not bother your mother.

Them, do not do not bother your mother.

Yes, okay, ain't gonna mess with mom does that's no arguments is no. But but but well he no, no, no, no, no, no, yes mom, okay, Mom, that's it.

Yes, okay, ain't gonna mess with mom does that's no arguments is no. But but but well he no, no, no, no, no, no, yes mom, okay, Mom, that's it.

Orioles.

Orioles.

It's kind of a shame actually that we only reserve that for one day of the year. Yeah, it kind of should be all of them.

It's kind of a shame actually that we only reserve that for one day of the year. Yeah, it kind of should be all of them.

This is the only day it works, though.

This is the only day it works, though.

It's the only day it works, right, all.

It's the only day it works, right, all.

The rest of them. It's like pulling teeth.

The rest of them. It's like pulling teeth.

Brother. I went for a as I often do. I'm an early riser, and I went for a little run today and I was running. There's this trail in our town that's got a bunch of pretty steep flights of steps, and so I go run the steps sometimes. And I came running down the steps and it's like not even eight o'clock in the morning yet not even close. And I come down the steps and then here comes a family that I know, the whole family, all four of them. Dad's there, and the fifth grader is there, and the fourth grader is there, and they're all dressed and the shoes are on, and they're going they made no bones about it. I'm like, look at you guys all out here in the morning. They're like, well, mom made us. I'm like, well, but you did it. Yes, you're here, and at least for the moment, I know you're just getting started. But you're all smiling, So that means even if you don't want to be here, you're done good, done good, You've done good. And then one kid yelled at the other one, give me the water, stop walking away, and then they were off to being a normal American family again. So anyway, Happy Mother's Day to ever rebody, all of the families out there. I hope it was a relaxing day. I hope everybody was good to each other. We thank you for making us a part of your day. All right. The nuggets are up a creek, Denver Nuggets are up a creek. Now, there's a lot of stuff out there when you watch kind of the way this all plays, like we're about to see the Pacers play the Cavaliers, And I'm telling you right now, if the Pacers don't win this game, they're up a creek. Ties are not always good enough. In fact, the Golden State Warriors could win a home game tomorrow night, and if they do, that series is tied. And I'm like, not really, not really, It's funny, isn't it the way? And I wonder what it is about the way these things maneuver. And obviously the Warriors Wolves thing is different because there's a major injury to a major player. But when I look at what the Pacers were able to achieve, I'll say this about the Knicks in their next game, which I think is tomorrow as well, Like, you go on the road and win two games.

Brother. I went for a as I often do. I'm an early riser, and I went for a little run today and I was running. There's this trail in our town that's got a bunch of pretty steep flights of steps, and so I go run the steps sometimes. And I came running down the steps and it's like not even eight o'clock in the morning yet not even close. And I come down the steps and then here comes a family that I know, the whole family, all four of them. Dad's there, and the fifth grader is there, and the fourth grader is there, and they're all dressed and the shoes are on, and they're going they made no bones about it. I'm like, look at you guys all out here in the morning. They're like, well, mom made us. I'm like, well, but you did it. Yes, you're here, and at least for the moment, I know you're just getting started. But you're all smiling, So that means even if you don't want to be here, you're done good, done good, You've done good. And then one kid yelled at the other one, give me the water, stop walking away, and then they were off to being a normal American family again. So anyway, Happy Mother's Day to ever rebody, all of the families out there. I hope it was a relaxing day. I hope everybody was good to each other. We thank you for making us a part of your day. All right. The nuggets are up a creek, Denver Nuggets are up a creek. Now, there's a lot of stuff out there when you watch kind of the way this all plays, like we're about to see the Pacers play the Cavaliers, And I'm telling you right now, if the Pacers don't win this game, they're up a creek. Ties are not always good enough. In fact, the Golden State Warriors could win a home game tomorrow night, and if they do, that series is tied. And I'm like, not really, not really, It's funny, isn't it the way? And I wonder what it is about the way these things maneuver. And obviously the Warriors Wolves thing is different because there's a major injury to a major player. But when I look at what the Pacers were able to achieve, I'll say this about the Knicks in their next game, which I think is tomorrow as well, Like, you go on the road and win two games.

You gotta get one of these.

You gotta get one of these.

That is such an unbelievable statement. You cannot.

That is such an unbelievable statement. You cannot.

You can't go around and come home and give it back.

You can't go around and come home and give it back.

You're dead. You're dead if this thing gets reeven to too.

You're dead. You're dead if this thing gets reeven to too.

Too yet, the momentum, the momentum shifts, I mean tenfold. When you shock a team and you win two games on their road, meaning that team in the regular season was better than you. That team had a better record, So therefore you have home court advantage. And if a team comes into your home and beat you twice, then I mean you're reeling.

Too yet, the momentum, the momentum shifts, I mean tenfold. When you shock a team and you win two games on their road, meaning that team in the regular season was better than you. That team had a better record, So therefore you have home court advantage. And if a team comes into your home and beat you twice, then I mean you're reeling.

Now.

Now.

You want to know what a knockout punch is? Win Game three at home, that's a knockout punch. Now, no matter what happens, they're dead in the water because no team has ever come back three to zero to win any series at any level. And so I think their opportunities just watching those games, and look, you knew the Celtics were going to win a game, right, You knew a Celtics were gonna win Game three. In my mind, I knew that they were gonna win Game three because they understand as a championship team what losing game three and going down oh three means in a series.

You want to know what a knockout punch is? Win Game three at home, that's a knockout punch. Now, no matter what happens, they're dead in the water because no team has ever come back three to zero to win any series at any level. And so I think their opportunities just watching those games, and look, you knew the Celtics were going to win a game, right, You knew a Celtics were gonna win Game three. In my mind, I knew that they were gonna win Game three because they understand as a championship team what losing game three and going down oh three means in a series.

And so.

And so.

You know, if you're New York, you gotta understand that, and you gotta do something. You gotta change everything up, you gotta make it ugly, you gotta do things that you're essentially you're just taking a shot because they're a better roster than you, they have better depth, and so you have to make it to where they're uncomfortable, you have to impose your will on them. I'm talking about, we're gonna score the first thirty points in the paint, right like you. It's gotta be something drastic like that, because what we saw is, look, they're not gonna shoot as bad as they did forever.

You know, if you're New York, you gotta understand that, and you gotta do something. You gotta change everything up, you gotta make it ugly, you gotta do things that you're essentially you're just taking a shot because they're a better roster than you, they have better depth, and so you have to make it to where they're uncomfortable, you have to impose your will on them. I'm talking about, we're gonna score the first thirty points in the paint, right like you. It's gotta be something drastic like that, because what we saw is, look, they're not gonna shoot as bad as they did forever.

It's not gonna happen.

It's not gonna happen.

And so you gotta make it to a situation where you can come out and say, hey, we're gonna give up layups, but we're not gonna give up three pointers. That way, if we're going in the paint, they're scoring in the paint, we can keep the game close. That's what I mean by radical, Right, I'm not gonna allow you to shoot threes while we shoot two's. We're gonna run every single person off the three point line, make you shoot floaters, layups or dunks. That allows you to keep the game close, because if you miss three times in a row and they go down and hit three threes, that's nine points.

And so you gotta make it to a situation where you can come out and say, hey, we're gonna give up layups, but we're not gonna give up three pointers. That way, if we're going in the paint, they're scoring in the paint, we can keep the game close. That's what I mean by radical, Right, I'm not gonna allow you to shoot threes while we shoot two's. We're gonna run every single person off the three point line, make you shoot floaters, layups or dunks. That allows you to keep the game close, because if you miss three times in a row and they go down and hit three threes, that's nine points.

The game is no longer close.

The game is no longer close.

And so that's what I mean by doing something radical, doing something that you're uncomfortable with. That's the type of conversation I'm having with my team, and I'm saying, get we're giving no threes what they've been shooting. I think before Game three they were twenty five for one hundred in three point phil goal makes twenty five of one hundred.

And so that's what I mean by doing something radical, doing something that you're uncomfortable with. That's the type of conversation I'm having with my team, and I'm saying, get we're giving no threes what they've been shooting. I think before Game three they were twenty five for one hundred in three point phil goal makes twenty five of one hundred.

There's a lot of it going around. I mean, you watched it. Even though the Timberwolves eliminated the Lakers, they were clanking threes like crazy couldn't And then they went out and did the exact same thing in Game one against the Warriors. They had gone through a stretch over I think two plus playoff games where the Timberwolves wait for this number now, were twelve of seventy six from the three point line, and they're one of the top they're one of the top five three point shooting teams in the NBA.

There's a lot of it going around. I mean, you watched it. Even though the Timberwolves eliminated the Lakers, they were clanking threes like crazy couldn't And then they went out and did the exact same thing in Game one against the Warriors. They had gone through a stretch over I think two plus playoff games where the Timberwolves wait for this number now, were twelve of seventy six from the three point line, and they're one of the top they're one of the top five three point shooting teams in the NBA.

Yep.

Yep.

So you know, I just wonder, like I'm always fascinated by the journey, the emotional side of the way these things unfold. Because as we're getting later now into the not just the final eight, but we're also getting later in these series. We got all these game fours now starting to unfold. You wonder how fatigue, both mental and physical, are starting to weigh in. You wonder how the emotions of the moment are starting to weigh in, because you know, when we all left for the weekend, we're sitting there looking at this Eastern Conference going hold up, like I had already booked Celtics versus Cabs in the Eastern Conference Finals done before the playoffs even started. I was like, I don't even see how it could be anything.

So you know, I just wonder, like I'm always fascinated by the journey, the emotional side of the way these things unfold. Because as we're getting later now into the not just the final eight, but we're also getting later in these series. We got all these game fours now starting to unfold. You wonder how fatigue, both mental and physical, are starting to weigh in. You wonder how the emotions of the moment are starting to weigh in, because you know, when we all left for the weekend, we're sitting there looking at this Eastern Conference going hold up, like I had already booked Celtics versus Cabs in the Eastern Conference Finals done before the playoffs even started. I was like, I don't even see how it could be anything.

What is gonna be?

What is gonna be?

Right? And then I walked into the weekend going dude, are you both going down? And then obviously both of them on I think it was Friday or one was Friday, one was Saturday, just emphatically showed that that they're they're ready, they're ready to come on and fight back, and they won road games by double digits. But now it comes to game four. And I've been talking about this a lot lately on the weekday show Ephrom. I think it's funny when people call game three and sometimes game five, oh, the pivotal the pivotal Game three. No, the even numbered games are the pivotal ones, because that's where you could actually make some hay. If you win Game three but the other team comes back and wins Game four, you didn't do anything.

Right? And then I walked into the weekend going dude, are you both going down? And then obviously both of them on I think it was Friday or one was Friday, one was Saturday, just emphatically showed that that they're they're ready, they're ready to come on and fight back, and they won road games by double digits. But now it comes to game four. And I've been talking about this a lot lately on the weekday show Ephrom. I think it's funny when people call game three and sometimes game five, oh, the pivotal the pivotal Game three. No, the even numbered games are the pivotal ones, because that's where you could actually make some hay. If you win Game three but the other team comes back and wins Game four, you didn't do anything.

Ye.

Ye.

Game four is the one where you can create space that three to one lead that essentially has only been overcome I think four times in the history league. It's doable. The Rockets almost did it last round. But it's very very hard, and so that's where you can make some hay. So these Pacers that we're looking at tonight, those knicks that we'll be looking at tomorrow, and what we watched Denver attempt to do and was unable to do earlier today, that's your game, especially when you're the underdog. That's the one where if you stole a road game and then held serve in Game three, Game four, Minnesota will have the opportunity tomorrow night. That's the game where you can say this series is ours. And I'll tell you right now that if the Pacers, if they win this game tonight, I will I will all start to believe. And I think that the one seed is going down. But they gotta win this one tonight.

Game four is the one where you can create space that three to one lead that essentially has only been overcome I think four times in the history league. It's doable. The Rockets almost did it last round. But it's very very hard, and so that's where you can make some hay. So these Pacers that we're looking at tonight, those knicks that we'll be looking at tomorrow, and what we watched Denver attempt to do and was unable to do earlier today, that's your game, especially when you're the underdog. That's the one where if you stole a road game and then held serve in Game three, Game four, Minnesota will have the opportunity tomorrow night. That's the game where you can say this series is ours. And I'll tell you right now that if the Pacers, if they win this game tonight, I will I will all start to believe. And I think that the one seed is going down. But they gotta win this one tonight.

They have to win this one.

They have to win this one.

If they lose this one tonight, I firmly believe the Cavaliers have got this thing handled.

If they lose this one tonight, I firmly believe the Cavaliers have got this thing handled.

Yeah, because number one, the Cavaliers are back healthy, right, They got three starters back.

Yeah, because number one, the Cavaliers are back healthy, right, They got three starters back.

Big deal, And so that's a very very big deal.

Big deal, And so that's a very very big deal.

He's like, oh, Okay, they got three starters back, and I think the only time you would have been able to beat this team with those three starters back is the first time they came back. Don't quite have the legs under them. It's been an intense series they haven't been a part of. There may be a slight minute restriction, but now it's wide open, and so I don't think they're getting They're up to full strength now. And we got a chance to see what that looked like, UH and and in all its glory yesterday or the day before yesterday, we got a chance to see that to the tune of one hundred and twenty six points, which I think I believe UH is one of the highest scoring especially in the second round. What we've seen, and we'll get into this after the break, is you know, the level of defensive.

He's like, oh, Okay, they got three starters back, and I think the only time you would have been able to beat this team with those three starters back is the first time they came back. Don't quite have the legs under them. It's been an intense series they haven't been a part of. There may be a slight minute restriction, but now it's wide open, and so I don't think they're getting They're up to full strength now. And we got a chance to see what that looked like, UH and and in all its glory yesterday or the day before yesterday, we got a chance to see that to the tune of one hundred and twenty six points, which I think I believe UH is one of the highest scoring especially in the second round. What we've seen, and we'll get into this after the break, is you know, the level of defensive.

Intensity, oh Man has increased.

Intensity, oh Man has increased.

It is amazing.

It is amazing.

So this is great basketball, in my opinion, been very good.

So this is great basketball, in my opinion, been very good.

Oh yeah good.

Oh yeah good.

There's a bunch of you know, naysayers about I don't is this what you want? But ninety one to eighty three, Hey, maybe it's I do want it because what it does is it adds an element. It adds an element of.

There's a bunch of you know, naysayers about I don't is this what you want? But ninety one to eighty three, Hey, maybe it's I do want it because what it does is it adds an element. It adds an element of.

Friction. Oh you mean someone's.

Friction. Oh you mean someone's.

Not gonn dribble, dribble, dribble, step back, step back, step back three right? Oh you mean someone's just gonna go down the middle and dunk no more.

Not gonn dribble, dribble, dribble, step back, step back, step back three right? Oh you mean someone's just gonna go down the middle and dunk no more.

Like.

Like.

It shows you just how hard these teams are competing. And I love the refs in the league for allowing them to compete physically.

It shows you just how hard these teams are competing. And I love the refs in the league for allowing them to compete physically.

Yep. And you can see it really takes its toll on the legs of the three point shooters. Oh yeah, right, Like, I mean, that's that game we watched earlier. Neither team couldn't hit anything, shot twenty five percent from three.

Yep. And you can see it really takes its toll on the legs of the three point shooters. Oh yeah, right, Like, I mean, that's that game we watched earlier. Neither team couldn't hit anything, shot twenty five percent from three.

It made twenty three pointers between the both of them. Yep, yep.

It made twenty three pointers between the both of them. Yep, yep.

The Nuggets were eleven of forty five, the thunder were ten of forty one counted up, that's the exact same percentage twenty four point four percent for both both terrible, But yes, the defense has to say in that all right, So a little bit more on that game. There's a couple players specifically I want to point out and talk about in that game, So we'll do that coming up next. This is with me from Salam and Mark Willard Fox Sports Radio.

The Nuggets were eleven of forty five, the thunder were ten of forty one counted up, that's the exact same percentage twenty four point four percent for both both terrible, But yes, the defense has to say in that all right, So a little bit more on that game. There's a couple players specifically I want to point out and talk about in that game, So we'll do that coming up next. This is with me from Salam and Mark Willard Fox Sports Radio.

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Okay, we're in the Fox Sports Radio studios. Happy Mom's Day. That's see from Salam. I'm Mark Willard. I want to throw out to you to maybe, uh you know, check out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel if you haven't already a ton of great videos from all the Fox Sports Radio shows. You just go in there and search Yep, you guessed it, Fox Sports Radio on YouTube, and then everything just pops up video highlights from all the shows. We should have subscribed, so you've always got instant access to our Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. Your boy earlier today went two of twelve from the field, two of nine from three points, scored six total. And are you a believer in plus minus? Are you?

Okay, we're in the Fox Sports Radio studios. Happy Mom's Day. That's see from Salam. I'm Mark Willard. I want to throw out to you to maybe, uh you know, check out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel if you haven't already a ton of great videos from all the Fox Sports Radio shows. You just go in there and search Yep, you guessed it, Fox Sports Radio on YouTube, and then everything just pops up video highlights from all the shows. We should have subscribed, so you've always got instant access to our Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. Your boy earlier today went two of twelve from the field, two of nine from three points, scored six total. And are you a believer in plus minus? Are you?

Yeah? Plus minus matters?

Yeah? Plus minus matters?

Plus minus matters for those who don't speak box score. Plus minus basically tells you what each individual player like, what happened on the floor while they were out there. So if your plus, your team outscored the opponent while you were out there. If you're minus, the opposite happened and your boy And for those who don't know who your boy is. That would be Russell Westbrook was a big olds thinking minus twenty in a basketball game that they only lost by five and led going into the fourth quarter. I like, I get it, but I kind of don't get it. I get it, I get the talent, I get the I mean, there's an MVP award in there. I fully understand that, but I don't know. I haven't watched every Nuggets game this year, and I'm not gonna say he doesn't bring something to the table. But you watched the guy. You know you don't want him on your team anymore. You've stated that. I just watch him play and I go most of the time I watch him. I'm like, there's a lot of good, but there's more bad. It's more bad than good.

Plus minus matters for those who don't speak box score. Plus minus basically tells you what each individual player like, what happened on the floor while they were out there. So if your plus, your team outscored the opponent while you were out there. If you're minus, the opposite happened and your boy And for those who don't know who your boy is. That would be Russell Westbrook was a big olds thinking minus twenty in a basketball game that they only lost by five and led going into the fourth quarter. I like, I get it, but I kind of don't get it. I get it, I get the talent, I get the I mean, there's an MVP award in there. I fully understand that, but I don't know. I haven't watched every Nuggets game this year, and I'm not gonna say he doesn't bring something to the table. But you watched the guy. You know you don't want him on your team anymore. You've stated that. I just watch him play and I go most of the time I watch him. I'm like, there's a lot of good, but there's more bad. It's more bad than good.

The man told you just exactly what you were gonna get. He said it himself to one of the games.

The man told you just exactly what you were gonna get. He said it himself to one of the games.

Yep.

Yep.

And you can.

And you can.

Live by it, you die by it. Now for me, I'm good. I don't need you to be okay with turning the ball over. I don't need you to be okay with not understanding the flow of the game. I don't need that. And so if you can't control it, which is essentially what he said. You're gonna get what you're gonna get, You're gonna get this is just me.

Live by it, you die by it. Now for me, I'm good. I don't need you to be okay with turning the ball over. I don't need you to be okay with not understanding the flow of the game. I don't need that. And so if you can't control it, which is essentially what he said. You're gonna get what you're gonna get, You're gonna get this is just me.

Maybe a turnover. Maybe this I may make a shy I.

Maybe a turnover. Maybe this I may make a shy I.

Mean, oh, in the playoffs, we little little bit more consistency in not wanting to turn the ball over and acknowledging the fact that I'm not going to turn the ball over to me. That's what you need to be successful in the playoffs. And so, like you said, you live by it, you die by it. I just I've seen it. I've I've seen it too many times where it's been a detriment to the team because although he can give you a spark when you need a spark, he can also blow up your ship.

Mean, oh, in the playoffs, we little little bit more consistency in not wanting to turn the ball over and acknowledging the fact that I'm not going to turn the ball over to me. That's what you need to be successful in the playoffs. And so, like you said, you live by it, you die by it. I just I've seen it. I've I've seen it too many times where it's been a detriment to the team because although he can give you a spark when you need a spark, he can also blow up your ship.

And so.

And so.

He is.

He is.

Correct when it's this is me, this is what you're gonna get the whole nine yards. And so it came back to in a closed game. It came back to bite them, and and we'll see how this thing keeps going.

Correct when it's this is me, this is what you're gonna get the whole nine yards. And so it came back to in a closed game. It came back to bite them, and and we'll see how this thing keeps going.

I mean, they had they had taken.

I mean, they had they had taken.

This was a series that was going to be a fight, and you gotta take care home court on either side of this thing. And to give him away close at home is tough.

This was a series that was going to be a fight, and you gotta take care home court on either side of this thing. And to give him away close at home is tough.

It's tough. It really is.

It's tough. It really is.

Yeah, yeah, I mean up by six going into the fourth quarter. Got you gotta you gotta close it out, You gotta you gotta close it out. Nikola Jokic has not been shooting the ball. Well, I'm sure he had twenty seven points and thirteen rebounds, but he was seven to twenty two. Like that defense that you talked about is really really wearing on people. Yeah, it's really like and I mean the whole league, the whole league is starting to threaten to make this all look like college basketball, you know what I mean, where it's just like, again, I know you're not bothered by games that are in the low nineties the h eighties. I'm not either. I'm not either. But you know, I also have been talking this year about like how many twenty point leads go away, And I'm like, yeah, especially when they're in the first half, Like you gotta stop acting like that's ball game when you're up there. Used to be when you're up twenty, that was like, okay, like let's put this thing in the control. But people can erase ten point deficits so fast they turn your twenty point deficit into a ten point deficit in a few possessions with the way people are hitting the three, but not a lot of teams are hitting that three right now like this is. This is all across the league and my best guess only I can think of this defense that the league is allowing and you're in favor of. And I get it, I get it. It love it wearing on people.

Yeah, yeah, I mean up by six going into the fourth quarter. Got you gotta you gotta close it out, You gotta you gotta close it out. Nikola Jokic has not been shooting the ball. Well, I'm sure he had twenty seven points and thirteen rebounds, but he was seven to twenty two. Like that defense that you talked about is really really wearing on people. Yeah, it's really like and I mean the whole league, the whole league is starting to threaten to make this all look like college basketball, you know what I mean, where it's just like, again, I know you're not bothered by games that are in the low nineties the h eighties. I'm not either. I'm not either. But you know, I also have been talking this year about like how many twenty point leads go away, And I'm like, yeah, especially when they're in the first half, Like you gotta stop acting like that's ball game when you're up there. Used to be when you're up twenty, that was like, okay, like let's put this thing in the control. But people can erase ten point deficits so fast they turn your twenty point deficit into a ten point deficit in a few possessions with the way people are hitting the three, but not a lot of teams are hitting that three right now like this is. This is all across the league and my best guess only I can think of this defense that the league is allowing and you're in favor of. And I get it, I get it. It love it wearing on people.

Good.

Good.

Yep.

Yep.

You know what, when you know what, you really got a chance or have to get a chance to see. And I tell people this all the time. The three point shot is easy. It's a cop out. And I'm not talking about for every player a Steph Curry is. It's masterful. Sure, that's what he does. It's masterful, Klay Thompson. They're a myriad of players who have just you know, pritch it, Derek White, they're masterful at it, but they aren't the only ones shooting them. But what it does is we've seen it on fast breaks. We've seen it on three on two or three on one fast breaks where no one goes to the rim, both wings flare out to the three and you shoot a three pointer. Yep, when you have the offensive advantage, yep. You know why wisconstant because it's an easy shot. The majority of the threes, no defense is present, so it's just a shot. Either someone drives and kicks it and you shoot it. Are they swinging the ball and you shoot it. It's easy. There's no contact there, there's no afterthought. It's easy. Almost as easy as us handing this thing off to Steve the Seger thirty after the hour, Almost as easy as that. Or Martin Wise, Oh it's not Steve. Oh whoa, whoa he Mark, he can wait. We gotta wait, he can wait. If if Steve's not in here, he can wait. It's fine. We'll get him at forty five. Right looking looking at it.

You know what, when you know what, you really got a chance or have to get a chance to see. And I tell people this all the time. The three point shot is easy. It's a cop out. And I'm not talking about for every player a Steph Curry is. It's masterful. Sure, that's what he does. It's masterful, Klay Thompson. They're a myriad of players who have just you know, pritch it, Derek White, they're masterful at it, but they aren't the only ones shooting them. But what it does is we've seen it on fast breaks. We've seen it on three on two or three on one fast breaks where no one goes to the rim, both wings flare out to the three and you shoot a three pointer. Yep, when you have the offensive advantage, yep. You know why wisconstant because it's an easy shot. The majority of the threes, no defense is present, so it's just a shot. Either someone drives and kicks it and you shoot it. Are they swinging the ball and you shoot it. It's easy. There's no contact there, there's no afterthought. It's easy. Almost as easy as us handing this thing off to Steve the Seger thirty after the hour, Almost as easy as that. Or Martin Wise, Oh it's not Steve. Oh whoa, whoa he Mark, he can wait. We gotta wait, he can wait. If if Steve's not in here, he can wait. It's fine. We'll get him at forty five. Right looking looking at it.

Come on, man, ladies and gentlemen, Martin Wise, let's go.

Come on, man, ladies and gentlemen, Martin Wise, let's go.

Hey, let's the playoffs. Just because I'm out here.

Hey, let's the playoffs. Just because I'm out here.

Look little they say play five, like play six, trust five, maybe the sixth man.

Look little they say play five, like play six, trust five, maybe the sixth man.

But I'm here, you're here. I'm ready to make you locked in, No problem, all right.

But I'm here, you're here. I'm ready to make you locked in, No problem, all right.

The Indiana Pacers lead the Cleveland Cavaliers in Game four of the Eastern Conferce Semifinals twenty two to ten.

The Indiana Pacers lead the Cleveland Cavaliers in Game four of the Eastern Conferce Semifinals twenty two to ten.

Right has been a rough going for Cleveland.

Right has been a rough going for Cleveland.

Obviously, on the offensive side of things, Miles Turner has five points.

Obviously, on the offensive side of things, Miles Turner has five points.

Obi Toppin has five as well.

Obi Toppin has five as well.

Tyre's Haliburton four rebounds, but only two points the game. The guy's just talking about the Thunder and the Nuggets. The Thunder tie this series back up in a game four win in Denver ninety two to eighty seven. Shay Gilders Alexander at twenty five point six rebounds. Now going back to the Oklahoma City for Game five. As I'm looking at this Indiana Cleveland game, it looks like Benedict Mather it just went back towards the locker room.

Tyre's Haliburton four rebounds, but only two points the game. The guy's just talking about the Thunder and the Nuggets. The Thunder tie this series back up in a game four win in Denver ninety two to eighty seven. Shay Gilders Alexander at twenty five point six rebounds. Now going back to the Oklahoma City for Game five. As I'm looking at this Indiana Cleveland game, it looks like Benedict Mather it just went back towards the locker room.

He was ejected right Rick.

He was ejected right Rick.

Carlisle's arguing with the referees and not happy with the be Benedict Mather, And looks like he'll be watching the rest of this game just like you and me as watching on TV. As de Andre Hunter attempts the technical free throw, misses it all right and mate. In hockey, end of the first period, Florida has a first one goal lead over Toronto won to nothing, and a two to one lead in the series. This game four of the second in the Eastern Conference playoffs. Earlier today, we saw the Stars beat the Jets five to two. That three goals in the third period they take a two to one series lead. After a seven and thirty three start to the season and a twenty one to zero loss on Saturday, the Rockies fired but manager Bud Black. Ironically enough, the Rockies did pick up their seventh win of the year. On Sunday, they speak the Cares nine to three. Freddie Freeman Rooki Betts both at home runs as the Dodgers beat the Diamondbacks eight to one, and right now Sunday Night Baseball, the Phillies have a.

Carlisle's arguing with the referees and not happy with the be Benedict Mather, And looks like he'll be watching the rest of this game just like you and me as watching on TV. As de Andre Hunter attempts the technical free throw, misses it all right and mate. In hockey, end of the first period, Florida has a first one goal lead over Toronto won to nothing, and a two to one lead in the series. This game four of the second in the Eastern Conference playoffs. Earlier today, we saw the Stars beat the Jets five to two. That three goals in the third period they take a two to one series lead. After a seven and thirty three start to the season and a twenty one to zero loss on Saturday, the Rockies fired but manager Bud Black. Ironically enough, the Rockies did pick up their seventh win of the year. On Sunday, they speak the Cares nine to three. Freddie Freeman Rooki Betts both at home runs as the Dodgers beat the Diamondbacks eight to one, and right now Sunday Night Baseball, the Phillies have a.

One run lead over the Garden Unions one to nothing.

One run lead over the Garden Unions one to nothing.

Kyle schwar Rat bat He's got the one leadoff home a home run earlier today, top of the sixth inning, one on and one out, ephrom and Mark back to you guys.

Kyle schwar Rat bat He's got the one leadoff home a home run earlier today, top of the sixth inning, one on and one out, ephrom and Mark back to you guys.

Appreciate you, Martin, Appreciate you battling through that disrespect.

Appreciate you, Martin, Appreciate you battling through that disrespect.

No any disrespect.

No any disrespect.

It was amazing. Actually I thought.

It was amazing. Actually I thought.

Way to step up.

Way to step up.

Speaking of disrespect, I don't know, did you look down? I look down, I look back up and uh and and in this Pacers Calves game, DeAndre Hunter walked straight up. Was that nem Hard that got knocked out or nest Man?

Speaking of disrespect, I don't know, did you look down? I look down, I look back up and uh and and in this Pacers Calves game, DeAndre Hunter walked straight up. Was that nem Hard that got knocked out or nest Man?

It's uh, it was who got thrown out?

It's uh, it was who got thrown out?

Uh?

Uh?

What's his name? Heartburn, Heartburn.

What's his name? Heartburn, Heartburn.

Mathren Man, Benedict Mathrin got thrown out?

Mathren Man, Benedict Mathrin got thrown out?

Okay, well he punched him in the stomach.

Okay, well he punched him in the stomach.

Yeah, backed up, and Hunter just walked over, stalked over, and two arms shoved him to the ground. And I think, if you look down for a second, I know the fans in Indian NFL this way, They're like, whoa Hunter's gonna get thrown out for that? Nope, Nope, it was actually the other way around. I give the officials credit because the old adage didn't happen there, which is that the responder is the one who gets in trouble.

Yeah, backed up, and Hunter just walked over, stalked over, and two arms shoved him to the ground. And I think, if you look down for a second, I know the fans in Indian NFL this way, They're like, whoa Hunter's gonna get thrown out for that? Nope, Nope, it was actually the other way around. I give the officials credit because the old adage didn't happen there, which is that the responder is the one who gets in trouble.

Well, yeah, but now nowadays, with the eye in the sky, you can always catch the first guy.

Well, yeah, but now nowadays, with the eye in the sky, you can always catch the first guy.

Oh, don't get me started. You want to go there? You want to go there? Should we talk about NBA replay for one hour or two? Should we? My man? Help me out, Help me out. I'm gonna try like hell to not make this about my team, because I don't think it is about my team. Well, last night, last night was a big old bucket of you know what, and that happens not the first time, won't be the last. But here's my question. It's procedural I'm not a results guy. I'm a processed guy. So the result is gonna be weird. Sometimes you're not always gonna This is a John Wooden thing, right, Like, keep doing it the way that you're supposed to do it and trust that more often than not that's gonna work out for you. There'll be one offs, there'll be times where it doesn't work out for you. So the fact that every single review went the wrong way last night is not the is not the point.

Oh, don't get me started. You want to go there? You want to go there? Should we talk about NBA replay for one hour or two? Should we? My man? Help me out, Help me out. I'm gonna try like hell to not make this about my team, because I don't think it is about my team. Well, last night, last night was a big old bucket of you know what, and that happens not the first time, won't be the last. But here's my question. It's procedural I'm not a results guy. I'm a processed guy. So the result is gonna be weird. Sometimes you're not always gonna This is a John Wooden thing, right, Like, keep doing it the way that you're supposed to do it and trust that more often than not that's gonna work out for you. There'll be one offs, there'll be times where it doesn't work out for you. So the fact that every single review went the wrong way last night is not the is not the point.

Did it go the way?

Did it go the way?

Well, in this case, it was the same thing. Now, there was one review on the ball got knocked out of bounds by the Warriors. They overturned it, and they were right. I got eyes, I could see that, okay, But with regard to the situation that developed there, it is simply an example of what I'm trying to say, And and here is the example so that I can make the larger point. Okay, you have a foul called in I think the third quarter doesn't matter, second quarter, third quarter in the NBA, apparently, if you're going to be wrong, you better be a ref. You're the only person that's allowed to be wrong, and you can be wrong over and over and over again. But my god, if a team decides to challenge something, and even if they're right, but you refs decide they're wrong, then they are punished for the remainder of the night and they don't have a challenge anymore. Now the NFL takes over with two minutes to go and a half, the NFL is instituted something that you sort of just referenced called replay Assist, also known as the eye in the sky. They can whisper to the refs, guys, you just got it wrong. Change your call, and they do because it's twenty twenty five and why the hell wouldn't you do that? But no, not in the NBA. If you ask somebody to look at something and they decide that you're wrong, that's it. You get said into your room for the remainder of the game. And if the refs decide to then go out there and ruin the rest of the game, tough bub kiss cookies, nothing you can do about it. And I just think from a process standpoint, that's stupid. What who came up with that idea? Who came up with the idea that in a two point game coming down the stretch with three minutes to go. The person who I happen to think is the best defensive player I've ever watched in my entire life and is the heartbeat of a playoff team's defense in a one to one tie, is gonna get sent to the bench with his sixth foul when literally no contact was made at all, no contact.

Well, in this case, it was the same thing. Now, there was one review on the ball got knocked out of bounds by the Warriors. They overturned it, and they were right. I got eyes, I could see that, okay, But with regard to the situation that developed there, it is simply an example of what I'm trying to say, And and here is the example so that I can make the larger point. Okay, you have a foul called in I think the third quarter doesn't matter, second quarter, third quarter in the NBA, apparently, if you're going to be wrong, you better be a ref. You're the only person that's allowed to be wrong, and you can be wrong over and over and over again. But my god, if a team decides to challenge something, and even if they're right, but you refs decide they're wrong, then they are punished for the remainder of the night and they don't have a challenge anymore. Now the NFL takes over with two minutes to go and a half, the NFL is instituted something that you sort of just referenced called replay Assist, also known as the eye in the sky. They can whisper to the refs, guys, you just got it wrong. Change your call, and they do because it's twenty twenty five and why the hell wouldn't you do that? But no, not in the NBA. If you ask somebody to look at something and they decide that you're wrong, that's it. You get said into your room for the remainder of the game. And if the refs decide to then go out there and ruin the rest of the game, tough bub kiss cookies, nothing you can do about it. And I just think from a process standpoint, that's stupid. What who came up with that idea? Who came up with the idea that in a two point game coming down the stretch with three minutes to go. The person who I happen to think is the best defensive player I've ever watched in my entire life and is the heartbeat of a playoff team's defense in a one to one tie, is gonna get sent to the bench with his sixth foul when literally no contact was made at all, no contact.

Defense, But it wasn't his left hand. Oh dear, listen to what I'm saying.

Defense, But it wasn't his left hand. Oh dear, listen to what I'm saying.

You're calling for physicality in the playoffs, and that all a fingernail is going to send.

You're calling for physicality in the playoffs, and that all a fingernail is going to send.

Somebody the ball, right, If this is what this is, all, I'll say, as great and I mean great, as great as Draymond is defensively, I mean he's one of the best who's ever done it in any era period. He is a difference maker on defense, and there's nothing you can say against that.

Somebody the ball, right, If this is what this is, all, I'll say, as great and I mean great, as great as Draymond is defensively, I mean he's one of the best who's ever done it in any era period. He is a difference maker on defense, and there's nothing you can say against that.

But he's gotta be.

But he's gotta be.

Smarter well, of course, and so if you know this, which he did that for his whole career, because he just picked up his fifth foul, but anyway, but was reviewed incorrectly, right, But what I'm saying is you have to know if he if he goes based on the first he closed out awful, But you can't give up the baseline there. But if he does, you gotta you gotta concede the dunk.

Smarter well, of course, and so if you know this, which he did that for his whole career, because he just picked up his fifth foul, but anyway, but was reviewed incorrectly, right, But what I'm saying is you have to know if he if he goes based on the first he closed out awful, But you can't give up the baseline there. But if he does, you gotta you gotta concede the dunk.

I'm not even going to argue that you have to.

I'm not even going to argue that you have to.

And you I knew it, you know it, knew it, everybody knew.

And you I knew it, you know it, knew it, everybody knew.

But here's the question that matters for the process. I can't argue whether or not Draymond makes perfect decisions on the court. Good lord, we could do a montage for two hours of all the stupid things that he got on a basketball court. Okay, However, let me ask you this and and hold your answer. If that got reviewed, do you think they would have overturned it? See? I disagree with you?

But here's the question that matters for the process. I can't argue whether or not Draymond makes perfect decisions on the court. Good lord, we could do a montage for two hours of all the stupid things that he got on a basketball court. Okay, However, let me ask you this and and hold your answer. If that got reviewed, do you think they would have overturned it? See? I disagree with you?

And why?

And why?

And this is why I tell you why. I'll tell you exactly why. If you want me, you want to give to you now?

And this is why I tell you why. I'll tell you exactly why. If you want me, you want to give to you now?

No, give it to me next, Give it to me next. On Fox Sports Radio Sports Radio alright, live in the Fox Sports Radio studios, Mark Wardy from Salam. I'm gonna I'm gonna try to keep doing my best here. I'm gonna try because e it's really not about the Warriors, and it's not about last night. I really don't understand the idea that the NBA feels like if you challenge a play and you're wrong or they think you're wrong. That's it. That's it. No more needing to get it right, no more needing to worry about anything that happens the rest of the game. You're wrong one time, and that's it. It's over. You completely pull your pants down and leave them around your ankles for the remainder of the game. What if we just focus on that. Tell me that that makes sense in twenty twenty five when you're also not using replay assist.

No, give it to me next, Give it to me next. On Fox Sports Radio Sports Radio alright, live in the Fox Sports Radio studios, Mark Wardy from Salam. I'm gonna I'm gonna try to keep doing my best here. I'm gonna try because e it's really not about the Warriors, and it's not about last night. I really don't understand the idea that the NBA feels like if you challenge a play and you're wrong or they think you're wrong. That's it. That's it. No more needing to get it right, no more needing to worry about anything that happens the rest of the game. You're wrong one time, and that's it. It's over. You completely pull your pants down and leave them around your ankles for the remainder of the game. What if we just focus on that. Tell me that that makes sense in twenty twenty five when you're also not using replay assist.

Yeah, that makes sense.

Yeah, that makes sense.

Okay, that's my issue, But go ahead.

Okay, that's my issue, But go ahead.

What I will say is this what happens after every single whistle? Tell me what happens?

What I will say is this what happens after every single whistle? Tell me what happens?

What? What do the players.

What? What do the players.

Do starting to their bench?

Do starting to their bench?

Okay, now, for a cent of all players who do that are wrong?

Okay, now, for a cent of all players who do that are wrong?

Correct?

Correct?

Correct, Like that's a real number in my estimation. Because I'm going I can tell you what I could tell you why. I say that because of the time, the coach doesn't challenge, right, But why doesn't the coach challenge because it's not enough evidence to overturn it. They get real time, they get real time reviews.

Correct, Like that's a real number in my estimation. Because I'm going I can tell you what I could tell you why. I say that because of the time, the coach doesn't challenge, right, But why doesn't the coach challenge because it's not enough evidence to overturn it. They get real time, they get real time reviews.

They do I know time.

They do I know time.

There's the guy, the coach, The coach look at the player, the twirl o the finger. He'll immediately turn to the guy behind the bench with the iPad and you'll see that guy look down and then look up and shake his head.

There's the guy, the coach, The coach look at the player, the twirl o the finger. He'll immediately turn to the guy behind the bench with the iPad and you'll see that guy look down and then look up and shake his head.

No.

No.

Oh, yes, yeah, I understood. However, soever, I disagree with you that.

Oh, yes, yeah, I understood. However, soever, I disagree with you that.

That's why that was just part of it. That was part of Yeah.

That's why that was just part of it. That was part of Yeah.

The plays to often don't get reviewed because the coach knows, I better save this for the uber uber super super really messy call, even though the one that just screwed up the third quarter might be really important. I'm not gonna review that because what if I need this in the fourth quarter?

The plays to often don't get reviewed because the coach knows, I better save this for the uber uber super super really messy call, even though the one that just screwed up the third quarter might be really important. I'm not gonna review that because what if I need this in the fourth quarter?

Yes, so if you go, if you gave each team five challenges, no, no, no, not calling for that.

Yes, so if you go, if you gave each team five challenges, no, no, no, not calling for that.

What do we call it for?

What do we call it for?

I mean something that's beyond one and dock?

I mean something that's beyond one and dock?

How slow would the game go?

How slow would the game go?

I mean, we've already got this in the NFL. We've already got this in the NFL. And by the way, it is not our fault, nor is it the player's fault that the league has such a ridiculously antiquated way of getting the review. How long did you watch the game last night? I know you didn't. When that ball didn't go off of Anthony Edwards one look. They hadn't even gone to commercial yet, and I'm like, oh, that's off the Warriors. Then we go watch five beer commercials. I went to the bathroom, so I came back. I ordered another drink. I was at a bar. I ordered another drink. And then they come back to broadcast and these three dudes are still standing over there with headsets on. What are we doing? What are we doing? Take a look at it, turn around, get your butt back out on the court, and let's move. I like, I'm they do not get to do that, and then use that as the reason why these teams are are getting okay.

I mean, we've already got this in the NFL. We've already got this in the NFL. And by the way, it is not our fault, nor is it the player's fault that the league has such a ridiculously antiquated way of getting the review. How long did you watch the game last night? I know you didn't. When that ball didn't go off of Anthony Edwards one look. They hadn't even gone to commercial yet, and I'm like, oh, that's off the Warriors. Then we go watch five beer commercials. I went to the bathroom, so I came back. I ordered another drink. I was at a bar. I ordered another drink. And then they come back to broadcast and these three dudes are still standing over there with headsets on. What are we doing? What are we doing? Take a look at it, turn around, get your butt back out on the court, and let's move. I like, I'm they do not get to do that, and then use that as the reason why these teams are are getting okay.

So I'll say with the play, we're talking about the foul that Draymond got his sixth foul. The reason they would have kept that a foul is his offhand, which was his left hand. His right hand was up trying to challenge the shot because the player was behind the backboard going baseline. Any contact with that hand while the players in the air pushes them out of the range of making a shot. It pushes them behind the backboard. They're gonna call it every single time. If that's in the middle of the court, they're not calling it. But because it's baseline, and because the slightest touch on someone's hip when they're in the air places them behind the angle to make a shot. They're gonna call that now up top. He challenged it without a foul. That's why I was saying. He has to be smarter than that. He gave a baseline.

So I'll say with the play, we're talking about the foul that Draymond got his sixth foul. The reason they would have kept that a foul is his offhand, which was his left hand. His right hand was up trying to challenge the shot because the player was behind the backboard going baseline. Any contact with that hand while the players in the air pushes them out of the range of making a shot. It pushes them behind the backboard. They're gonna call it every single time. If that's in the middle of the court, they're not calling it. But because it's baseline, and because the slightest touch on someone's hip when they're in the air places them behind the angle to make a shot. They're gonna call that now up top. He challenged it without a foul. That's why I was saying. He has to be smarter than that. He gave a baseline.

He was beaten. You gotta let that one go. You have to, you gotta let it go.

He was beaten. You gotta let that one go. You have to, you gotta let it go.

And you and I see this one differently because he didn't let it go, and I thought he defended it masterfully and he caused the miss. And you and I will never know what the refs would have said if they were able to call review, which they weren't. But here's what I would say. This is what I often see. Forget last night. You want to know why they would have come back and confirmed that it was a foul, because they're human beings and they want to be right.

And you and I see this one differently because he didn't let it go, and I thought he defended it masterfully and he caused the miss. And you and I will never know what the refs would have said if they were able to call review, which they weren't. But here's what I would say. This is what I often see. Forget last night. You want to know why they would have come back and confirmed that it was a foul, because they're human beings and they want to be right.

Oh that's what kid.

Oh that's what kid.

Here's the other thing that's stupid about NBA replay. Don't let the people who made the call go replay it. Have Bob be in New Jersey just look at it. Tell us what you see, say it to the rest, send it back, because these guys want to be right, and so there's confirmation bias dripping all over this system. I've watched it all year long, and I'm not obviously talking about last night because that review didn't even take place. But I'm confident they would have come out and confirmed it because they're human beings and they would like to be right. Like my issue is not in the end, it's not with any specific thing that happened last night, it's with the entire process that to me reeks of the NBA not really wanting to get it right. They wanted to look like they want to get it right, but they wouldn't do it this way if they wanted to get it right. That's what I'm thinking. We got more time for this, we do, and we're live in the Fox Sports Radio studios. We also got to talk about George Pickens to the Boys. We will next.

Here's the other thing that's stupid about NBA replay. Don't let the people who made the call go replay it. Have Bob be in New Jersey just look at it. Tell us what you see, say it to the rest, send it back, because these guys want to be right, and so there's confirmation bias dripping all over this system. I've watched it all year long, and I'm not obviously talking about last night because that review didn't even take place. But I'm confident they would have come out and confirmed it because they're human beings and they would like to be right. Like my issue is not in the end, it's not with any specific thing that happened last night, it's with the entire process that to me reeks of the NBA not really wanting to get it right. They wanted to look like they want to get it right, but they wouldn't do it this way if they wanted to get it right. That's what I'm thinking. We got more time for this, we do, and we're live in the Fox Sports Radio studios. We also got to talk about George Pickens to the Boys. We will next.

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There we go, and we're broadcasting live in the Fox Sports Radio studios, and getting into it about officiating in the NBA playoffs is kind of taking us away from the NBA playoff game that's being played right now. And I know I told you earlier and I believe this twenty point leads in the first half don't mean what they used to. They go away a lot. But if you get north of twenty five, now we're starting to Now we're starting to warm up fat ladies all around the world. And right now it's twenty three, still seven plus minutes to go second quarter. But you and I both agreed the Pacers waste everything they did in Cleveland if they don't win tonight. But they very much look like a team that's planning on winning tonight.

There we go, and we're broadcasting live in the Fox Sports Radio studios, and getting into it about officiating in the NBA playoffs is kind of taking us away from the NBA playoff game that's being played right now. And I know I told you earlier and I believe this twenty point leads in the first half don't mean what they used to. They go away a lot. But if you get north of twenty five, now we're starting to Now we're starting to warm up fat ladies all around the world. And right now it's twenty three, still seven plus minutes to go second quarter. But you and I both agreed the Pacers waste everything they did in Cleveland if they don't win tonight. But they very much look like a team that's planning on winning tonight.

I think they understand that maybe we're we may know a thing or two about the sports, thing.

I think they understand that maybe we're we may know a thing or two about the sports, thing.

That we like to t could possible seem possible.

That we like to t could possible seem possible.

Like we uh, you know, are.

Like we uh, you know, are.

Pretty We get some right, we get some right, we get something wrong. But anyway, like let me ask you this, does it go the other way? If the Pacers do win this, are you ready to call the one seed done in the East? Uh?

Pretty We get some right, we get some right, we get something wrong. But anyway, like let me ask you this, does it go the other way? If the Pacers do win this, are you ready to call the one seed done in the East? Uh?

Yes, huh?

Yes, huh?

The Pacers would still only have one more home game.

The Pacers would still only have one more home game.

Yeah yeah, but it well number one. They've shown they can win too in Cleveland, which is difficult to do. Albeit they didn't have their guys, But everybody's playing here and playing now, so now you're just literally playing with house money. Right, we just saw it in the earlier series with Houston and Golden State.

Yeah yeah, but it well number one. They've shown they can win too in Cleveland, which is difficult to do. Albeit they didn't have their guys, But everybody's playing here and playing now, so now you're just literally playing with house money. Right, we just saw it in the earlier series with Houston and Golden State.

Correct.

Correct.

Yes, the amount of energy and effort that you have to put out to climb your way back from a three to one deficit will show up somewhere, namely in Game seven. And it took, you know, everything, like Houston just wasn't they're not they're not old enough yet. They don't have a player on their team. Now I'm on Thompson. He showed up. He is about to be special.

Yes, the amount of energy and effort that you have to put out to climb your way back from a three to one deficit will show up somewhere, namely in Game seven. And it took, you know, everything, like Houston just wasn't they're not they're not old enough yet. They don't have a player on their team. Now I'm on Thompson. He showed up. He is about to be special.

He looked like arrow up and Jalen Green.

He looked like arrow up and Jalen Green.

Look, well, Jayalen was the future and now that is cleared it is not him. And so that's what you need the series like that, Your younger players get to take steps.

Look, well, Jayalen was the future and now that is cleared it is not him. And so that's what you need the series like that, Your younger players get to take steps.

Right.

Right.

We saw we saw Anthony Edwards last year, right taking steps. This year we've seen them taking steps. And look for the most part of that game yesterday, he seemed uninterested. He seemed, you know, not like the guy. Until the end of the third fourth quarter, it was wrapped. He hit a button and it was gone and it was nothing they could do to stand in front of him.

We saw we saw Anthony Edwards last year, right taking steps. This year we've seen them taking steps. And look for the most part of that game yesterday, he seemed uninterested. He seemed, you know, not like the guy. Until the end of the third fourth quarter, it was wrapped. He hit a button and it was gone and it was nothing they could do to stand in front of him.

It was nothing they could do.

It was nothing they could do.

It was fantastic. He's fantastic. My goodness, he's fantastic when I look at it, and I actually I got a an Anthony Edwards related question to ask you in a little bit we work through this, but anyway, go ahead. He's amazing.

It was fantastic. He's fantastic. My goodness, he's fantastic when I look at it, and I actually I got a an Anthony Edwards related question to ask you in a little bit we work through this, but anyway, go ahead. He's amazing.

And so when you're down three to one and you're fighting back and you get it to a game seven, it's difficult to win that game seven if you're the team that was fighting back because you put it all, I mean, you empty the tank and you you need that's when your tank needs to be as full as it can be as any game seven. And so you know, more times than not, we get it to a game seven and then they you know, fizzle out at some point in that game and the team will the three to one lead ends up winning. And so it's it's it's one of those situations if if, if, if Indiana wins this game, they're in the driver's seat and Cleveland is reeling and you know, most likely they get back to Cleveland, they win that game and Indiana comes out like they've come out today, which is unbelievable and and kind of put their imprint on this series. I mean they're playing with I mean every loose ball, every they just got a ten second call, like, when's the last time you say.

And so when you're down three to one and you're fighting back and you get it to a game seven, it's difficult to win that game seven if you're the team that was fighting back because you put it all, I mean, you empty the tank and you you need that's when your tank needs to be as full as it can be as any game seven. And so you know, more times than not, we get it to a game seven and then they you know, fizzle out at some point in that game and the team will the three to one lead ends up winning. And so it's it's it's one of those situations if if, if, if Indiana wins this game, they're in the driver's seat and Cleveland is reeling and you know, most likely they get back to Cleveland, they win that game and Indiana comes out like they've come out today, which is unbelievable and and kind of put their imprint on this series. I mean they're playing with I mean every loose ball, every they just got a ten second call, like, when's the last time you say.

Excuse me, eight seconds. When's the last time you've seen that in the NBA?

Excuse me, eight seconds. When's the last time you've seen that in the NBA?

Well yeah, and they also they have I'm trying to think of a camp, but you know miracle run type teams. Actually here, I'll give you a compidle bit and it might bug you a little bit, but you're San Diego State Aztec. Oh yeah, two years ago, three years ago when they made their run all the way to the end. When you have a team that's like, yes, they're as good as who they're going up against, but they're not like way better. No, but I clearly better, but they're right there, and then they just something happens for three weeks where all the big plays kind of go their way. Indiana has had a miracle run all round. They've had at least two wins they had no business getting right. I mean, even the way they eliminated the Bucks, it was like, dude, you were out of that game, and then it was just a miracle finish. And then Tyrese Halliburton's Dad's running around with a towel and everything changed. And then same thing the other night in Cleveland, like game number two Cleveland was killing them all night, killing them, and then you know, it gets a little closer, but you're still talking about like an eight point game with a minute to go.