Aaron Torres and Jason Martin react to all the latest from the NCAA Tournament, and give their thoughts on John Calipari and Arkansas upsetting Rick Pitino and St. John's. Aside from that one though, what's with the lack of wild upsets so far this year? The guys also look ahead to Sunday's slate of action. Later, they get into some NFL talk, discussing the Bengals signing Ja'Marr Chase and Tee Higgins to massive contract extensions, and questioning whether or not it was ultimately the right move. Aaron and J-Mart also give their thoughts on Aaron Rodgers meeting with the Steelers. Plus, how much does Bronny's 17-point night matter?
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I'll tell you what Jason Martin and I were texting this morning getting ready for this show. The theme of the text chain was, uh, tournament's been lacking a little drama so far. Well, Houston has just made a free throw to go up four with two point one seconds left. Gonzaga pushed them to the wire byu gets a defensive stop just moments ago to survive against Wisconsin. As de Seger told you, we had Arkansas winner earlier. It has been I think it's it's safe to say, j mart I know that there aren't a ton of you know, there's no thirteen seed in the second round, but today kind of felt like the tournament for the first time maybe so far this march.
How you doing, my man, I'm doing a lot better today than I was the last couple of days. When it comes to the basketball, you're one hundred percent right about that. Outside of that first game, which you could tune out of by the first first time out, everything else has been at least pretty dog on good. And even though this late slate it looked like we were going to see a couple of runaway, close blowout situations, all of them got tight late and then this late game with UCLA and Tennessee even though Tennessee's up seven, these are two really good defensive teams and they could be very streaky offensively too, So I'm not sure about that one. But past that, like, there's been a lot of fight in a lot of these teams, including this Gonzaga team that easily it's not anywhere near one of their better teams. We know that, but you know, down twelve against this Houston club deep into the second half and then you fight it back to where Houston has to win the thing basically with a free throw at the end to actually ice it away. Shows a lot of guts from them. You've seen some really good coaching performances from guys that have had a lot of talent in the past on the floor. Maybe they don't have as much talent, and they're showing how good a coaches they are because of the way that these guys have been playing for them.
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So that was a little dig at Ben McCollum from Drake. Huh No, I'm just kidding. Let's get I'm kidding, Let's get right into it. Awesome, awesome, awesome day hoops. I agree with you, and listen, I'm somebody who loves college hoops, but I will sit here and say that the first two days certainly lack drama. Again, Houston survives for people just joining us. The game was not over when we came on air. The two free throws late ice it BYU, by the way, just clinched their first Sweet sixteen bit since Jimmer for Debt was on campus. Jimmer was in the building in Denver tonight BYU beats Wisconsin. But I'll tell you a story of the day, story of the tournament. And I think this might have been who you may have hypothetically been alluding to. J Mart the coach of the tenh seeded team in the West Region that was playing in Providence, Rhode Island, earlier today. So listen, you know we don't need to relitigate and go over John Caliperi's history. We know he's put a lot of players into the NBA. We know that it has resulted in one national championship. And I will say I've been a cal defender. But when you tune in an NBA game and Jamal Murray's going for forty here, and Shay Gildess Alexander's going for fifty there, and Devin Booker's putting up forty two there, you know, you start to really say, like, how did this guy on win one championship at Kentucky? And it ran its course? He leaves Kentucky last year after a loss to fourteen seed Oakland in the opening round of the NCAA Tournament. This, of course, two years after losing to a fifteen seed in twenty twenty two. Real, you know, at one, I've been a defender. But Arkansas started zero to five in the SEC this year. This again after Caliperry lost to a fourteen seed in the NCAA Tournament a year ago at Kentucky, which led, of course to him leaving. I bring it up because Arkansas, quite ironically, J Mart, we were on when I think their season turnaround. They go to rupp Arena on February. First, they get the win in Cali Perry's old stomping grounds. Now that got preempty because Luka Dancic got traded about an hour after that game went final. So we didn't talk much about that game. But I only bring it up to say they've been playing better. But again, the narratives about Caliperry in March, you know, they weren't gonna go away until he proved otherwise well as a ten seed. He beats Bill self in Kansas on Thursday. But then today against Rick Patino, we know the history between those two. You can call them rivals, you can call them enemies, you can call them whatever. Rick Petino has had this revival tour of his career, of his character, of whatever. And then they ran into the Arkansas Razorbacks fun game, maybe a little hijacked there.
By the referees for a big for a big chuck of it.
Arkansas wins seventy five sixty six, though Cali Perry gets his revenge to the critics, to the haters, to the doubters, to Rick Patino, and Arkansas is headed to the Sweet sixteen.
Yeah, so this is the first time Cal Perry has taken a team to the second weekend in a handful of years. It's been a while, and it just looks like right. So they're zero to five, and after the game, I saw the postgame interview on the floor, and you know, he was asked about and he's just like, man, they've got a really good team over there. He said, they just missed a lot of shots. If they had made a few more, they'd have beaten us. They'd probably beaten us. There was something honest in what he was saying there, Like, I know he might have been speaking a little bit to his team, but he was saying, like, man, they were all time terrible shooting basketball in this one. We're We're lucky to get out of here. This thing was a war, is kind of what he was saying. But I've always he can be easy to hate, but I've never hated Cal. I've actually kind of liked Cal. I've thought at times he wasn't the best coach on the floor that I've ever seen, but I understand that there's a lot of politician in him. There's a lot of showmen in him. But I've also appreciated some of his candor at times, and that was one of those moments. But there's something to be said for enjoying what you do again. And I think that's the takeaway for me here is I don't think that was fun for cal this last couple of years at Kentucky. I think he was over it. They may have been over him, the fans may have been over him, but he was over it the pressure there. He went to Arkansas and he was able to go coach ball again, and that's really what he wanted to do because he could have easily retired. He had plenty of money. He said, I love coaching basketball. So he stays in the SEC and he goes to a school that has some tradition, that won a championship back in ninety four, but at the same time, it was just going to be different. And so he was able to coach a basketball ta that didn't have all world talent all across the floor, and when they struggled, it wasn't Sky's following He's the worst coach in the world. He was able to work with them, and he was able to round them into form, make them believe again, and then get them into the NCAA tournament where they're playing pretty good ball, and now they move on to the sweet sixteen, and I do think that that's I think part of this is he got a refresher, like he got a almost like a clean slate. He's free, there's fresh air. He was carsick, and he was able to open the door at the rest area and walk around and kind of get his bearings back. I feel like that's what happened. I feel like he was stifled, kind of choked in a lot of ways with what was going on in Lexington. And he just looks like a guy who's enjoying what he does again, and that's good to see.
I think there's zero doubt, and I think, you know, as somebody covers this stuff pretty closely, but I'll say I think that maybe I fell into some of the narratives as well. And listen, you know, I'll readily admit it. When they lost to Oakland, I said he should resign, and I said he should retire. And the reason was is one, he's sixty five years old, and so I'm like, you know, what are you gonna do? Go get another job? And then two I just said, listen, whatever. And I've been a defender caw. I'm like you, I've never really had a problem with him. I think his honesty and candor catches people by surprise, and I think it's actually a little bit refreshing. But I just bring it up because a couple things stand out. Is One, when he did decide to leave, I agree. I think it was good for everybody. I think Kentucky got an alum in Mark Pope back in. You know, we'll see what they're obviously playing tomorrow, so we'll see if they can advance to Sweet sixteen. But I think he needed it as well. And I will say I was the guy. I was one of many guys. I'm not the only one, but I said, you know, it looks like the games passed him by whatever. But then in the back of I had two things. One, for all the criticism, they were actually very good last year. I mean they got a three seed that you know, that's how you get upset by a fourteen seed. But two, when Arkansas gave him the lifeline, I actually said the same thing you did. I said, if he wants to coach and somebody wants to pay him to coach, who am I to say that he doesn't have the right to do that. And I think the big thing that stands out to me is exactly what you said is that it's it's clear that I guess just that he's believed in. Again, is you know, the fan base, like you said, was over him, and especially I think really the last two or three years, it felt like no matter what he did, it wasn't good enough, and it was almost like, you know what it was really like, J Martin, I know you'll appreciate this. It was like Ryan Day before he won the national title.
Oh, that's a great comparison.
Yeah, and and you know it it felt like and you live in that part of the country, so tell me if I'm wrong, But it felt like half of the fan base was rooting against him. But then like a like like, let me even take that back. Half of the fan base was rooting against them, but a big portion of that fan base was rooting basically rooting it for it to be over, Like if we keep losing, he'll eventually go. And again I think that was the take with Ryan Day. And so to be at Arkansas where you have a clean slate, you know, it got dark. But you know, I don't know if the fans. Ever, I just I don't think the fans knew what to expect. I think they were disappointed with the start, but it wasn't like, screw this guy, we don't like him. And then I think also seeing the way that Kentucky fans kind of treat him on the way out, they wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt, but he had to give them a reason to cheer and to support him. And I think the big takeaway for me, and I'm going a lot of different directions, but I'll just bring it back to exactly what you just said is you could tell he's refreshed. But I think it shows having a place where people believe in you, where your own fans aren't in many cases rooting against you.
You can see that the guy still knows a thing or two about coaching basketball.
Yeah, I mean, I think I think all of that is exactly true. He is actually given a little bit of leeway to coach now he doesn't have to win a national championship and year won. The Ryan Day comparison is right because it's a double edged sword to be able to recruit just about anybody you want, because if you fail it's never on the kids. It's almost never going to be on them. It's almost always going to be on you, fair or unfair. And I think that that goes with the territory. But because we got used to cal having the kind of talent on the floor that he had at Kentucky, the one and done teams and everything else like that, anytime they lost it was a disappointment. And you've never put it generally on the players. You always put it on col And so now he's at Arkansas, and yes, they're gonna we'll see what comes in next year, for example, talent wise down there, and Musclman had built a little bit of something there already. But it's just different, Like no, now, I think the point about them not knowing what to expect, it's like they were happy to have him, Like that's the difference. It's like, we know what this guy is capable of. He's won everywhere he's ever been. He took a UMass to the final four. You know, he was within a couple of free throws of Memphis winning a national championship with Derek Rose. Like he's had talent all over the place and he's been able to bring them wherever he has been. Yes, there's some things there that you don't love about cal I understand that that comes with the territory. But he's a proven winner and so we got him now, so let's give him a chance. Let's give him time to actually build something. And if you give the patience is what I think he is granted now that he never was in Lexington and increasingly if he didn't win a championship, he was a bomb and that just has to be a miserable way to go to work every day.
Well, and it's one thing if there's thirteen or fourteen other fan bases in your in your conference that feel that way.
It's another thing if your own fans feel that way.
Right, and again to use the Ryan Day comparison, and this is obviously we all know it's where you cross the line. But you know, Ryan Day's getting threats and he's getting this and he's getting that. And you know, like I said, it's one thing if if there's media that doesn't like you or doesn't believe in he it's one thing.
But when your own fans are are you know.
Not only like championship or bust expectations are okay, but when when you lose and I don't know, man, it's just it did get so toxic. And I'll say the other thing really quick and we'll come back and talk Patino on the other side. But the other thing, too is and I don't know how closely you followed this, but it has felt like for a port for since the day he left, a portion of the Kentucky fan base has made it a priority to root against him. And then beyond that, I think this is the weird part. And I know you're not on social media, but basically, every time something goes wrong for Arkansas, let Arkansas fans know, hey, this is what you signed up for. This guy can't win in March, this guy's time has passed, this guy whatever.
And so I think that that's the part that makes me happy.
I'm certainly not saying all Kentucky fans are like that, but there was a very vocal minority that every time something went wrong for Arkansas. And I'm not talking about when they played Kentucky. If you want to root against your former coach when they're playing your team, that's fine, but just openly rooting against and whatever a coach that brought you a national title. Here's the other thing too, j Martin, he did them a favor by leaving. Remember he had like a thirty forty million dollar buyout, and if he just gritted his teeth and said I'm not going anywhere, there was nothing that Kentucky could do about it. Now, I think it was best for everybody that he did. But yeah, I'm going in circles again. But I will say I'm happy for the guy, and I think more than anything today obviously Saturday taught us that again. I think because of especially the recent early losses, I think there was reason to doubt and reason to question if the game had passed him by.
But they've been a really good team the last month or so.
And now how about this the guy that everybody said didn't know what he was doing back to back wins over Bill self and Rick Patino to go to the Sweet sixteen Fox who were had anything?
Jaymar No. The only thing I would say, it's just that Kentucky point you made about their fan base seemingly wanting to see him fail. It's like, what did he do to you?
Yeah?
I mean, yes, he didn't win maybe every championship every year that you wanted him to win. That's fine, but he didn't desert you in the middle of the night. He didn't desert you period. He tried everything under the sun. There was never a moment when I didn't think he was uber competitive. I never saw him phone it in anything like that. He was recruiting hard the entire time. I felt like he gave everything he had, came up short in some spots where I think we admit he should have and those are teams that probably should have cashed it in. But you know, it's hard to win championships. But outside of that, it's just like, I don't understand this level of vitriol towards this guy who really did nothing to you and certainly didn't say anything negative about you after he left.
Yeah, and I'll wrap on this. I'll take it one step further. Is not only did he not say anything negative when he left. You know, this is a minor thing, but they have that summer tournament, the TBT, and Kentucky had a team full of his former players, and he went and cheered on the Kentucky team. Now it's not Kentucky basketball, but it's like all he ever did was support the school, support his players, that's the other thing too. And I know we kind of led the segment by you mentioning this Jmart, but you know, he has this reputation as whatever, and it's like all these guys swear by him.
I mean, I don't know if you remember this Jmart, but.
Like it was sort of a story when you know when they went back to Rup and half the players were either wearing arket. You know, his former players at Kentucky were either wearing Arkansas gear or saying I'm rooving for Kentucky, but I love coach Cal. And it's like, I know there is a reputation or a thought about him and what he may be about, but like done right by his players. You know, there's been NCAA stuff in a different you know, it's in a different world. He certainly was alleged to have broke some NCAA rules. I know there was no wrongdoing technically. I know we all know that that's kind of a little bit of a silly narrative sometimes, but whatever, Cal gets the win, and yeah, man, I'm happy for him. It sounds like you are to Arkansas. By the way, we'll now play Texas Tech, who beat Drake earlier. In the day, Fox Sports Radio er toors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Tyreck dot Com studios.
But I want to do Jamar.
I want to come back and talk about the other side of the coin. Rick Patino, you know we were on air after that Big East Tournament last week.
We're giving him his flowers.
You know he'll never have the wins, but where does he rank all time among greatest guys to ever coach this game? I thought he had a really bad day and we're going to discuss that next.
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It's actually the perfect metaphor for Caliperry, and I know that's exactly where you're going with this. There's a lot of people, I don't know if they wish death upon Caliperry, but they definitely are rooting against him.
Jock. Caliperry in Arkansas is a seven seed stun the number two seed Big East regular Season Champs, Big Eiast Tournament Champs Saint John's in the round of thirty two on Saturday, Jason for the thrill of victory, there is also the agony of defeat. And I thought this year was very interesting for me.
By the way. That is legit one of the best hip hop albums of the century right there, there you go. Just wanted to drop that real quick. He was never able to follow that. I mean, he had a couple things after that, but like, and he's been an interesting figure, but in terms of musically he never even approached that. But there were that thing was it's it's on the short list. It really is. So the track before that one, as a matter of fact, that's many men but patiently waiting. The track before it, to me is one of the greatest hip up songs of all time.
There you go, I'll tell you this. You know Torres high school football, oh two ish oh man. Yeah, we were jamming out to this and that that whole album in the locker room pretty much before every practice, every game. Fifty Cents done a lot of cool stuff in the business world. Like you said, he's not he had done.
Say, he's been a really interesting figure. Like he's he's been, but like musically, he never even scratched the surface of that record. Again.
Yeah, I just I just know it's funny.
I went on a literal like two day fifty cent like Google binge. I watched Power, which was the show that he was the executive producer for, and we just watched it probably within the last like four months or so. And so then I started doing doing research on all of his business ventures and stuff, and so basically owns the entire town of Shreveport, Louisiana for people that want a little homework assignment for the night. But let's get back to basketball, all right. So cal Perry has his moment in the sunshine. Turns out he kind of knows what he's doing. Hall of fame or funny how that works. Got to also say, you know, we said a lot of nice things about Rick Patino on this show last week.
I don't think any of them weren't true.
But I'll also say, and I'll say this, cal Perry clearly has a talented team. And you know, my personal opinion was when the bracket came out, I thought that Arkansas had the size and length and athleticism that could give Saint John's problems. But I'll also say tough day for Rick Patino, you know one in some ways you feel bad he's had this career revival. He's seventy two years old, so realistically, as great of a coach as he is, I don't know how many better chances that he is going to have than than this one right here. But I'll also say didn't think it was his best day in the ex's and o's department, which is not something you say often. Obviously, r J Luis, the Biggiast player of the year, was on the bench late in the game, and you know what, Ian and Mary pull up the sound of him. You know, we don't need it this second. I should have told you, but we'll get to it in a second. But r J Luis was on the bench when the game mattered. Beyond that, I thought it was weird the whole Arkansas frontline was in followed trouble. They kind of never really went inside to Zoobi edge of four, who was basically their best player on the day. Just felt like as greate as Patino has been all year in his entire career, probably wasn't his best day.
Jmartin, No, it definitely wasn't it. Was weird. It was odd, the r J Luise thing, and even the way he talked about it afterwards very strange, and he kind of had I was trying to go back and find it while you were talking just now. Last year, his first year there, he had a press conference where he just crushed his team. Oh yeah, famous. I can't remember it. I can't remember like when it happened. It was I remember just thinking, my goodness, that's one of the most unbelievable things I've ever heard of coach say about his own players.
And fat and slow was basically the theme of the year.
Yeah yeah, that's right. Yeah yeah, okay, so so I'm not crazy. Part of me was like, maybe he didn't do that, but I thought I remember talking to Brian Know about it on one of the Monday shows that we had filled in for last year. But this was odd, and the way he talked about Luis after the game was odd, and I mentioned this to you in the chat. It was just like, I don't recall ever seeing a coach like walk from the coaches box over to the opposing coaches box and shake the hand to have a conversation with the guy that he's coaching. Against with four point nine seconds left in the game. And that's what happened in this game, Like there were free throws being taken and yet it was basically over at that point. But at the same time, like they didn't wait for he didn't wait for the horn. He just rolled over there and said, I knew a better man today. I'm ready to get out of here. Like it was very, very weird. It was like all of a sudden, in the last handful of minutes, he just decided, I don't think Saint john Z's to win this game, Like I don't I don't think we should win this game. Like it it was very strange. I don't really know how to explain it.
So a couple things. One, I'm trying to find reading the quotes right now. So first he said, this is this is last year, this was this.
Is the one I was talking I was referencing.
Okay, First he said, quote, this is the most unenjoyable experience of my lifetime.
This has been so disappointing.
Then he said, quote, do we have explative starts with s ens and y? Do we have expedive facilities? Yes we do, but we're doing something about that. But that's not the reason we're losing. Having expeditive facilities has nothing to do with guarding. Joel Soriano is slow laterally, He's not very fast on the court. Chris Ledlam is slow laterally, Sean Conway's slow, Lattery Blady Brady Dunn relapsed physically weak. Drisa is slow laterally. We kind of lost this season with the way we recruited. We recruited the antithesis of the way I coach. It's a good group. They try hard, but they're just not very tough.
I mean, dude, Like I remember it, and I was just like, how do you play? How do you send your kid there? Sure at that point it's like, I mean, he you don't. You don't have to call him out by name like he called him all he like he went down basically the post sheet, the score sheet after the game that's handed to the media, and he was just like going down. He's like, no, yeah, I coach him, he's not good. Yeah, I coach him, he's not good. Yeah, I coach him. Yeah, he plays really hard. But that's basically a bless your heart statement right there, Like, oh, he's about his own guys, And it wasn't the end of the year, Like, it wasn't their last game. How did they play for him again after that?
Well, and let's get to what he said after the game, and I'll say this is one I'm with you. I thought that the postgame handshake with about six seven seconds to go was a little bit soft, a little bit you know whatever, like basically, you know, kind of like a sored loser for lack of a better team, right, you know, and whatever. So anyway, after the game, for people who didn't watch it, r J. Lewis was the Big East by the way, I think it's r J. Lewis, so I apologize it spelled Luis. I think it's Lewis.
But r J.
Lewis, Big East Player of the Year, was on the bench. And keep in mind, Jamart, I know you know this, but it was still like a four to five point game. It wasn't out of control. And even the broadcasters were saying, like why is he on the bench? One and then too they were saying like Saint John's isn't a goo three point shooting team, and he's kind of the best three point shooter that you have.
Steve Lapis, Steve Lapis was doing a game and Lapis said, he goes, look, man, Patino's gone a lot further and he's coaching career than I have. But he's like, I'm not taking that guy out if he's won for thirty from three. Well here's And I didn't disagree with what Lapis was saying at all.
No, it was weird. And Patino was asked about it after the game. Here's what he had to say.
You had RJ on the bench, you know, for a pretty long stretch at the end. Was that just because he just didn't wasn't making him or was there something more to it?
Played thirty minutes, it's a long time, so he was no, played thirty minutes, and I went with other people. You already know the answers, Roger, you're asking leading questions. You already know it, So don't.
Ask leading questions.
You already know why he didn't play.
Was there one play with ARJ that made you sit him in the last five minutes?
You know he was three for seventeen. You know he was oh for three, So you're answering your own I'm not gonna knock one of my players.
But you just did.
Yeah, now we've said all the right things about Patino, and I think deservedly so he kind of came off like a sore loser. And I'll say this too, I listened to some of his press conference. I'm telling you, man, I'm telling you when that bracket came out, because because it's easy to forget this, Cali Perry owned him for a decade when Cali Perry was at Kentucky and he was at Louisville, and could if you go back and listen, and we don't have the sound. I didn't ask for the sound, so that's on me. But after the Omaha they beat Omaha in round one, you could feel because remember this whole year he's been you know, it's been a personal revival tour for him. Is he's on fallin and he's smiling and he's kissing babies and whatever.
And you could see.
His tenor change in that pre you know, as the as it started to switch to the Arkansas game. And I just think Cali Perry owned him at Louisville. I think this was the one guy he didn't want to see. I know it's easy to say in hindsight, but you could just tell. And by the way he said and done all the right things with the media this season, and I think, you know, sore loser on the court kind of shaking cal Perry's hand with five, six second and eight seconds left in the game. I thought he sounded like a sore loser. At the press conference, I thought, you know, you and I have been in those situations. I'm sure some of our listeners are part of media. You gotta ask tough questions. The biggest player of the year was on the bench to end the game, was not fouled out, and I thought he was kind of standoffish in a way that he didn't need to be.
Yeah, so I'm trying to think of a good analogy based on what you're saying, the sore loser argument. It's like, so I played tennis in high school. That was the sport that I was on team and let her in and everything else. But there was at least once or twice where I knew I was gonna lose, Like I just didn't have it that day. This guy was just far better than I was. Maybe he was underseated, maybe I was overseed, who knows what it was at the time, But like towards the end, when I know I was gonna lose. I started just tattooing the ball, just sending it out of the cage, basically just completely throwing it like he would serve and I would just make sure that that thing was just ridiculously out And like, you know what you're doing in that moment, you're stealing the win away. Sure, you're not giving them the victory. You're essentially just like, yeah, I'm gonna get out of here. Yeah you win great, But it becomes about you. It's not really about the other person in that moment. And that's that's kind of how I feel. It's just like, no, you gotta lose honorably, like you have to. You have to lose being competitive. You don't just you know what, I don't think we're gonna beat this guy today. I don't like the way my team's playing. And if you listen to the way he talked about him last year, not the same guys, of course, but the way he talked about his team last year. The guy that can say that in a press conference, I'm not surprised would then kind of do this. But it's just like, how much success do you need? Man? Like you had a great, great year only one guy is gonna be happy at the end of this tournament when it comes to just the sheer win loss of it all, like the emotions that the kids face and that they're dealing with when they lose and all the stuff. Notwithstanding, you got to be better than that. I'm sorry, Like you've been too good for too long at too many places. You've had too many people bow down to your greatness to do something like that. And you know, I don't think that cal took it that way or whatever, but it does. It's almost like you're sort of showing up what's happening on the floor to make it about yourself.
Don't disagree. Saint John's falls And of course Arkansas advances. They will play Texas Tech on Thursday night. By the way, how about this host I'm filling in for Well, but you know, play the music, Disager. We'll get to what's trending in a second. I was thinking about this. They're playing in San Francisco on Thursday, filling in with Mike harmon Wednesday night, filling in for Doug Gottlieb on Friday. In theory, I could sneak up for that game if Disager knows it's about a thirty minute flight.
I was thinking about do I fly up for the West Regionals.
I probably won't, but it's a good way to transition to Steve de Sager with what's trending.
Would take longer than thirty seconds to find parking there. Just for the record, by the way, I'm taking you, bro, you're renting your car as you were talking about coaches with the handshake before the game is over. Famously, Woody Hayes of undefeated Ohio States nineteen seventy five season went to the Rose Bowl. I repeat undefeated, and in the Rose Bowl we're shutting out UCLA and then got beat by coach Dick vermil and UCLA and there were still eight seconds on the clocks. They're starting to pick the coach up on their shoulders, but the clock is stopped. Nonetheless, with Kirk Goudi at the mic, Woody Hayes walked across the middle of the field to shake hands before the game was over.
You're starting across the field the deck for a meal, the.
Shake hands with him.
So it has happened. And this, you know, of course, what he hates, that whole world revolved around him. So what does he care what.
Yeah, but like that that's disrespectful though, right, Like the way we're talking like that doesn't feel like that's not a respectful thing that what he Hayes was doing. And I don't think it was a respectful move by Rick Patino either.
Yeah. I think it's not respectful to the game, is what that was.
And like, like, like j Mart said, it's almost like you're still making it about yourself and taking it away not just from cal Perry, but I mean for the Arkansas players. I mean that's their moment too, and you're kind of making it again about yourself.
We've got one late game in the second round of tonight's NCAA tournament coverage to see now up fifty five thirty nine on UCLA with about seven minutes to go, and you kind of reference what kind of game it could be with these two teams matching up. Yes, one team is shooting only forty percent from the floor and the other at thirty five percent from the floor. But it is now Tennessee up fifty five thirty nine, So things are going to be done here for the night. Tennessee's gonna get a victory and face either Kentucky or Illinois in Indy. In the Midwest Regional semis Perdue is going to Indianapolis, not that far from campus after beating twelve seed McNees today seventy six sixty two. And by the way, Houston A one seed advances to face Purdue LJ Crier thirty points. Is Houston Beacon Zaga tonight eighty one seventy six, Texas Tech over Drake Saint John's two seed beaten by Arkansas one seed overall, Auburn beat Creighton eighty two to seventy. Michigan advances beating Texas A and M ninety one seventy nine, and it was BYU or three seed Wisconsin ninety one eighty nine. Even though the Badger's done. John John Jay had thirty seven points n tournament victories for Bradley and Chattanooga. In women's hoops, Yukon one oh three thirty four over Arkansas State, and they're telling.
You can you can you tell your guys? Can you tell your women to calhm down?
Wow?
There, Like I think they had thirteen points at the half. Well, it was a halftime score to say, you're gonna have to look it up. But the halftime score was abysmal. I saw it on like a ticker on my phone, and I was just like, this is embarrassing us.
He had a home game and their opponent had eleven points in the first step. Let's take a look here. That was a seventy one time school was the US.
See it was if I'm reading my.
Mask, like sixty nine thirteen or something.
Sixty six to sixteen is what it looks like.
Dude, what are we doing here?
We're dominating. That's what we do with March one.
NBA note Lebron James is back, Lakers have Luka Dantic, they have Austin Reeves back, and they're losing at home at halftime to the Chicago Bulls sixty five six two, even though Luca has twenty nine points in the first half.
Back to you got your Broughnny in there, man.
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Fox Sports Radio eron Torris Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tireraq dot Com studios. As de Sega just told you. One game left in college hoops for the day. Seven tickets have been punched to the Sweet sixteen Tennessee. Looks like it is about to be number eight. They are up by seventeen points with four minutes to go. Over you Cla mc cronin's screaming into the abyss right now. I'm sure he'll complain about having to travel back to the East Coast after the game. But Tennessee is four minutes away from going to the sweet sixteen. By the way, what would that be? Would that be? Three SEC teams so far? Tennessee, Arkansas, and Auburn. Did I miss any Who'd I miss?
A and M? Law No? Three? Is that? I think because A and M lost to Michigan.
By the way, I don't know that it became a huge talking point SEC getting fourteen teams in this tournament. I'll just give my quick take. I'll toss it over to you. By the way, I should mention before we do. Tractor Supply knows that a winning season takes practice, teamwork, and a can do attitude. Thankfully, when you have a neighbor, tractor Supply, teamwork comes easy. Whether you're caring for pets, chickens or a few acres. Our team members will have you succeed, help you succeed season after season. Tractor Supply for life out here, and be sure to check out Tractor Supply Fox Sports Radio Bracket Challenge at Fox Sports Radio dot com. See how you're doing against our hosts with their picks and who the top ranked listeners are. The top listener will with the best bracket at Fox Sports Radio dot Com will get a twenty five hundred dollars gift card to tractor Supply. So yeah, it felt like there was a lot of, you know, debate about fourteen teams from the SEC. It sounds like a lot three have advanced. I believe about six or so have been eliminated, obviously Kentucky Florida among the many that will play tomorrow. Did you have any issue with that, Jmart as far as how the bracket played itself.
Out, not necessarily other than I mean, I don't think Texas probably should have been in, But I felt the same way about North Carolina. They got in. But I mean, you look at everything else, who are you gonna put in that you felt like distinguished themselves to a degree where you would have left out one of the lower ranked teams in the SEC. I don't know that there were that many. And then in this era of these two big conferences, specifically, this is just what you're gonna get, And if you add more teams to the field, you're just gonna get even more of this. It's gonna benefit them probably more often than anybody else. But I just I just kind of shrugged my shoulders at it. I don't think that it ultimately means all that much.
Yeah, I'm with you because I saw a lot of the pushback there. And the thing that I go back to is, you know, out of conference games did happen, and like that was the thing, like people were like, oh, how do you get so many teams?
And it's like, I don't know. Oklahoma was undefeated in the out of conference.
I think Georgia was like twelve George beats Saint John's in the out of conference I mean Arkansas a couple of nights wins. So it was a weird deal where I just it was hard for me to get fired up. And you and I talked about this last week. We had the bracketologist, Roco Miller on, and you know, the net is kind of the primary tool that is used, and the net does weigh heavily in favor of these power conference teams. But again, it's like you said, is who got left out that deserved to be in Ohio state, you know, North Carolina guide and even tho they probably shouldn't have. You could argue West Virginia, Okay, by the way.
Their governor certainly did.
I was gonna ask you more so from the North Carolina side of things. Did you find anything fishy about their guy being the head of the committee and them getting in or was that just a weird coincidence.
I don't know about fishy, but it's a bad look. It's just you can't prove a negative. Like you can't prove that anybody that wants to say there was a problem there, you can't really blame them for it. But you also can't prove that there was something going on. It's just an unfortunate I guess coincidence. I don't know if I do even it. It's just a way that it was, so I guess. I guess I would agree, yeah, it's more of a coincidence anything else, but it just breeds conspiracy.
Yeah, you know, I don't know that there's anything perfect in terms of what you can do, but you know, maybe it's time to get like ads and people like you know, there's plenty of retired coaches. Excuse me, you look at the college Football Playoff Committee, it's a lot of coaches like Roy Williams doesn't seem to be doing very much. I always see him at North Carolina games. Tony Bennett's available coach k or whatever. So it was an interesting week to say the least. North Carolina obviously is out. Duke is the only ACC team left. Meanwhile, Tennessee about to be the third SEC team to get to the Sweet sixteen as this one is just about to go final. Fox Sports Radio aertors Jason Martin broadcasting live from the tire rack dot Com studios. We will come back, we will switch gears to the NBA. Ronnie James had the best game of his career the other night, but does it actually really matter? We'll discuss all that next air tourus Jason Martin. This is Fox Sports Radio. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Welcome in everybody. Hour three two, hour two. Got at excited there, tours and mars. I'm so excited to talk about Bronnie. I traveled into the future. What can I say? We're broadcasting live from the tyreck dot com studios. I think in both hour two and hour three, tyreck dot Com will help you get there. An unmatched election, fast, free shipping, free road hazard protection, over ten thousand recommended installers. Tyraq dot com the way tire buying should be. Yes, it is our two of tours, and Martin, we're taking you up till two am Eastern time. Bertie Frado of The Bernie Frado Show follows.
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Our one, by the way, shouldn't mention to say you're just told you. But one game going on still in the NCAA Tournament, Tennessee with a thirteen point lead thirty nine seconds.
To go, looks like they will advance.
They will join Arkansas and Auburn, three SEC teams in the Sweet sixteen.
Three more, by the way, can advance tomorrow.
Alabama, Florida, and Kentucky will all play tomorrow, part of eight games that tips off at twelve ten Eastern time on Sunday, starting with Florida and the two time defending champion Yukon Huskies. All right, j mart you know we can talk college hoops all day, but we got to get to we gotta get to the NBA. De Seger just told you. Lakers in action on Saturday. Here they're currently playing the Chicago Bulls at Crypto dot Com Arena. It is in the third quarter as we speak. Lebron James is back. But the story of the week with the Lakers, it was not Lebron. It was his son, Bronni, who just finished what was undoubtedly the best game of his NBA career. It was Thursday night against the Milwaukee Bucks in Los Angeles. Bronni James. Now, admittedly there was no Luca Johnson, there was no Luka Doncic on the floor, there was no Lebron on the floor, so very banged up Lakers team. This was on Thursday playing the Milwaukee Bucks. Lakers lose by twenty nine points. But Bronnie James in thirty minutes played has seventeen points, five assists on seven of ten shooting, by far, the best game of his NBA careers a Los Angeles Laker, Jamart, we have statues of Shaq and Kobe and Wayne Gretzky outside of crypto dot Comerine, is it time to start getting the Bronni statue ready for outside of crypto.
I'm so frustrated by this. It irritated me as it was happening, not because he had a great game or a good game. He has seventeen points and it's something you just want to be happy for him for. And I was, so I was just like, man, good for him, Like that's a that's a solid night for him. You know, it was a night where you know, jokicch and Murray didn't play, but they needed him and he was able to come in and give him something. And that's a good moment for him. That has to feel good. And because obviously he's taken a lot of criticism and all this other kind of stuff. But I knew it was going to be short lived because I knew it couldn't just be about one game. It was gonna be how can we take this game and explode it into a narrative, And that's exactly what happened less than twenty four hours later. And I'm just so disappointed by that because we can't just look at one performance to say, man, that was a great night. We have to turn it into something it's not, and that that actually just ends up looking hypocritical, looking like terrible analysis and looking like shill. You look like a shill when you do something like that, or you look like somebody that really wants to get on somebody else's good side. And so he can't just have a good game here, and we literally like as it happened. I was like, all right, cool Saturday, Aaron, and I can just say, hey, you know what, Broddy had an on Thursday night. Good performance for him. If he never has another one, he's gonna have that moment at least, good on him. But then I read I don't know how long the article was. I read the most fawning propaganda piece maybe I've ever read in sports earlier today by a I guess a professional journalist who talked about how if you talk to the Lakers, they'll tell you that he's got the goods. They'll tell you that he's improving. I'm like, right, they're not going to say he stinks, Like why are you including that in the article? Like Lebron James is there? Who exactly with the Lakers Organization's gonna be like, look, I'm gonna be real and make sure you attach my name to this. In the article, Bronnie is straight up garbage. He is dogwater. Like, no one's going to say that about him, And even if it wasn't Lebron's kid, they wouldn't say that. But all this stuff about how hard he works and how he's a great kid. Literally this article said, I mean This is a guy that gets up at eight am every mongret congratulations, I get up at six. Like what, I don't It's not that there's anything wrong with getting up at eight, but I don't know that that needs to be included in some kind of He's very dedicated because he gets up at eight am. Stuff Like he had seventeen points. I wanted to be able to celebrate that as what it was, a seventeen point night and isolated night for now, like he may never do it again. We have no idea. The best game of some people's career turns out to be their first one and they're nab never able to do it again. He actually now. I will give him this. I saw this stat and I feel like it bears mentioned before we continue down this pathway. I want to give Bronnie James credit. He has more career three pointers right now than a former number one overall pick.
In the NBA draft, Michael lil Candy, Ben Simmons, Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons has five, Bronnie has six. Bed Simmons back from the I thought his career. Listen, Bronnie is somehow this is the thing again we're criticizing Bronnie when we're just frustrated with the circumstances.
We're just angry that we can't enjoy it for what it is. Yeah, Like, we can't even enjoy this because we know it's gonna have to be something bigger when it absolutely is not, and it looks and sounds phony and foolish and ignorant to go the places that I've seen people in our industry go in the last two days.
So a couple of things shout out Ben Simmons. My guess is he's probably got more career threes than Michael Luwacandy as well.
I would say that's probably true too.
But yeah, I was not. I was not ready for the Ben Simmons mic drop right there. But no, it is that look.
Again, and we'll do the whole thing every time we're criticizing Bronnie. It's not that we're rooting against him. It's the circumstances in which he's here that we're again that we're force fed that we're supposed to believe that this is a thing.
All right, Listen.
I try not to call out other media members, but I'm just gonna say it, Like I just googled the same thing you did. And the first thing that I see, Kendrick Perkins tells Steven A. Smith, you know that he's got to take the l on on Brownie And here's my thing, J Martin and I said this on Friday, I was filling in for Doug Gottlie with Dan Byer. Let me ask you a question. Have you ever heard the name Matthew hurt before? Is that a name that like rings a bell for you?
Does that? Does that do anything for you?
Yeah? I believe he is the I believe he's the sales associate that my wife named down on the list for a Highlander hybrid a couple of weeks ago at the Toyota dealership.
He was the guy that promised your time share. You just had to sit through a forty five.
Right right right, tripped to Myrtle Beach.
Yeah, no, no, no, in all seriousness, So, Matthew Hurts. So last year, it was sometime in the spring. It was probably right after the NCAA tournament, and we all know, you know, end of the year, a lot of teams are trying to just end the season. And I remember being here in the Fox Sports, you know, the tyreck dot Com studios and I'm watching this Grizzlies game, and the Grizzlies have literally people I've never remember. John got hurt early, the season was was a wash whatever, and they had guys on the court that I had literally never heard of. And I'm somebody who covers college basketball. I'd like to think I know most of the guys in the NBA, even if I.
Don't follow the NBA.
And so I bring it up because when I saw Brownie hit seventeen, I go I swear I was watching a game where Matthew Hurt played really well last year for the Grizzlies at the end of the season.
And I looked it up.
Matthew Hurt, who you know was a form McDonald's American whatever, played in Duke, no impact at Duke whatever. He was playing on the Grizzlies last year last year, the twenty twenty three twenty twenty four season, and had a game where he scored thirty points. Matthew Hurt is now playing for the Southeast Melbourne United of the NBL in Australia. A guy who scored thirty last year in an NBA game is now in Australia playing And so I only bring it up because guess what bad? G League guys get called up for injury riddle teams all the time. By the way, Matthew hurts a young guy. It's not like he's like a twenty eight year old journeyman. He's like twenty two years old. I bring it up.
G League guys get called up all the time.
Somebody has to put the ball in the basket when Luca and Lebron and basically nobody is playing. And so the fact that a G League guy had a decent game in a game that was a twenty nine point loss when your two superstars aren't playing. By the way, someone named Jordan Goodwin was starting in this game. Again, think I know a little bit about Kyle. Never heard of Jordan Goodwin until this season. We're you know, we're not talking about Game six of the Western Conference Finals. And so to me, listen, good for Bronni. He had an opportunity, he took advantage of that. That's not hating.
Good for him.
But to act like this has to be a thing because it's Bronni. When random dudes step up all the time in games where starters are out because of injuries, and that we have to make it a thing, and that we have to assume it matters. Like I'm sorry, it just doesn't matter. And by the way, maybe seventeen on Friday leads to twenty two next week and then twenty six to the week, and if that happens, if he consistently puts together these games, game after game after game after game after game, then okay, I'm happy to talk about it. But a random seventeen point game when Luca and Lebron we're not on the court. Like I said, G League dudes come up to the NBA and put up good games in losing efforts all the time. We don't have to make it a thing just because it is Lebron James's son.
So I don't even have to call the guy out by name, because everybody's gonna know who I'm talking about here. When you get into an altercation in the media with a player, let's just suggest he's a pretty famous player and he has a son that's playing in the NBA, and it seems as if it's about your critique of his son. Maybe didn't deserve to be drafted, maybe he wasn't ready, maybe he was put in a bad situation by his father, even though his father's a really good guy and a really good dad and clearly wants the best for his son, and also that kind of stuff. You say all that, then you have the altercation, and you kind of stick by it the next time that you're asked about it. And then this son goes and has seventeen points. And then the next time that you're on TV, the headline coming off of your performance that day on TV, the headline on the website for the company that is now paying you, let's just suggest a lot of money about this hypothetical individual. The comment underneath the picture says, I may have to admit I was wrong about Bronny, what are we doing here? Like everything that you said before, within a couple of weeks of being challenged face to face, being caught on camera that way, and then having to talk about it and all this other kind of stuff, within a couple of weeks, you're now suggesting that, you know what, maybe I was wrong because he had seventeen points in this very isolated situation. I just I was kind of baffled by it because this person, it seems like he would not have been the one to do that in this spot and When I saw it, I immediately screen grabbed it and sent it to you because I was just like, really, this is what we're doing. It's it's embarrassing, honestly, it's embarrassing to media, it's embarrassing to the profession at all, to basketball, and it does nothing for Brownie at all. Like you can't even enjoy it because it gets blown out of proportion and it's that way into comments sections. I'm sure it's that way on social media. It's the same way. It's just like, guys, can we not overreact to it? Can it not just be a good day? And yet, as you said, if this thing became a trend, everybody's gonna start to talk about it. But he has one game and now all of a sudden, it's like we were all wrong. Fifty other teams passed on a sure fire, like what why we understand what you're doing here when you do that, and we understand why you're doing it, and it's not as cool as you think it is, and it's also very easy to see through and the integrity word goes out the window, and that's the problem.
Let me ask you a question, and so like, let's be fair, because I am curious. And you know, I was talking yesterday about this is it's again it's hard.
What do they say?
Sometimes it's hard to separate the art from the artists, like you can appreciate the art, but whatever. And it's still hard for me to separate how Brianni got into the league, the narratives that we were forced down our throat, versus what he is doing in the league. And so my question for you, because I don't want to root against him, I want this to feel like it's one hundred percent merit based. And I will admit I'm having a little bit of trouble trying to figure out what he would actually have to do for me to be like, oh, no, he belongs. I don't know how many games. I don't know how many weeks. I don't know how many of this, I don't know how many that. How much longer does he have to consistently, maybe not do what he did, but prove that he is a serviceable role player, by the way, again, not when there's injuries, not when Lebron's you know, in a nice tub during the game, not when Lucas sitting there in street close How much longer does it have to go because again, I don't want to be a prisoner of the original take, which is that he didn't belong. But I also am not going to change the take because he had one good game in a blowout loss when all the starters weren't playing.
Either.
Yeah, I mean that is the problem. You're never going to be able to completely get the taste out of your mouth of how he got into the league. And that's gonna doag him no matter what he does now. He's gonna have to if he's able to stand on his own two feet down the road or whatever like that, and he does turn into whatever you just described, a serviceable role player, whatever it is, then I do think that we'll start to say, you know what, he didn't deserve to be here. But at the very least he's taken he's taking full advantage of this opportunity. He's not just resting on the fact that you know, his name got him here. He's actually doing the work. He's putting in the work, he's doing all the things that you would want him to do, and he's showing now that even if he didn't belong, then he's earning his keep now. And you know, I think that's about as good as it can get. And that's only if he really does get to a spot where I'm just not sure his talent is going to take him, Like, I just don't know that he's got that level of talent to where he's ever going to be able to do enough to justify being put into this role in the first place. And that's unfortunate for him because again to your point, not rooting against him in any way, there's not really a reason to do it. But also it's very hard to legitimate. It's very hard to feel any of what he's doing is legit because even though he's making the most of this opportunity, it's one he shouldn't have had. It's one that no one really believes he deserved in the moment, because well he didn't, and that there was one reason why he was able to kind of cut the line get the fast pass at the amusement park, and we know what that is. And so I don't know the answer that question, Aaron, I have no idea what he would have to do to really make that thing work. I don't know that there is a thing that he can do outside have just become really, really good and I just don't think he's that. I don't think he's got that. That's not his ceiling in my opinion.
Well, and we'll wrap with this, is that if this was some sort of impactful game that completely changed the way the Lakers felt about him, you would think that maybe he'd be on the court tonight.
We are talking right.
Now in the middle of the third quarter, Lakers playing the Bulls at Crypto dot Com Arena, Bowls up by fifteen in the third quarter, Bronnie James zero minutes played so far, So if this was some moment that was launching the stardom of a role player, you'd think that maybe in a fifteen point deficit, they'd get him a little bit more run. So far again, with three minutes left in the third quarter, they have not done it. Fox Sports Ready ertors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the ti iraq dot Com studios, should mention, by the way, you can stream this show and all of our Fox Sports Radio shows live twenty four to seven in the new and improved iHeartRadio app. Just search Fox Sports Radio in the app to stream us live, and one of the newest features in the app is that you can select Fox Sports Radio as one of your presets, just like the presets on a radio dial, So be sure to preset Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app and it will always pop up at the top of your screen. We'll come back switch gears from Bronni to the NFL.
Still a few.
Interesting moves in free agency that have come about in the most recent days, and there's one move that hasn't been made, but do we still care? That's next? Fox Sports Radio Welcome back everybody. Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tirec dot Com studios. Tractor Supply knows that a winning season takes practice, teamwork, and a can do attitude. Thankfully, when you have a tractor like Tractor Supply, teamwork come. Whether you're caring for pets, chickens or a few acres, our team members will help you succeed season after season. Tractor Supply for life out here, and be sure to check out this Tractor Supply Fox Sports Radio bracket challenge at Fox sports Radio dot Com. See how our hosts are doing with these picks and with their picks excuse me, and who the top rated listeners are. The listener with the best bracket at Foxsports Radio dot Com will win a twenty five hundred dollars gift card at Tractor Supply.
All right, a lot.
Of brownie talk, by the way, quick shout out to David Listening who said, uh, Bernie, come save me from these two hacks.
David, truly appreciate you listening.
All right.
Let's brother, Yeah, appreciate your support.
All right, let's get it over the news desk second time this evening. There's still stuff trending at twelve twenty eight Eastern time to say or what is trending?
Uh.
The Lakers, for example, still losing it home to the Chicago And this is with Lebron James back in the lineup and with Luca Johnson scoring thirty four points in three quarters. Lebron at the line right now as they trail Chicago one oh nine to ninety five early in the fourth quarter. Everything else in the NBA's final wins for Milwaukee and New York, wins for Atlanta and Indiana, and Nikola jokicch of the Nuggets, will miss another game on Sunday with the bad ankle out for a fourth straight game. Everything final in men's college basketball, The second round continues tomorrow, but tonight the late game went to two seed Tennessee over UCLA, sixty seven to fifty eight. UCLA did have the best scoring defense of their conference this year. They held opponents to sixty five points a game. Tennessee only sixty seven in this one. But Tennessee plays defense as well, and they led their conference allowing just sixty three points a game and in fact held UCLA to fifty eight. For what it's worth, they held UCLA to the fewest points the Bruins had scored in any loss this season. UCLA season ends with eleven losses. Twenty three and eleven the record wins for Houston and Purdue, Texas Tech and Arkansas advanced ten seed. Arkansas eliminated Saint John seventy five to sixty six. Auburn and Michigan each one, and they'll be playing each other in the Sweet sixteen Friday at Atlanta. Michigan beat Texas A and m ninety one seventy nine. The number one overall seed Auburn defeated Creighton eighty two to seventy and three seed Wisconsin is out BYU held on tonight ninety one eighty nine, despite the Badger's john Tonjay scoring thirty seven points. The Cleveland Guardians gave pitcher Tanner Byby a five year extension plus a club option year. Cleveland acquired outfielder Nolan Jones from Colorado. Toronto has given catcher Alejandro Kirka five year extension. Among the fourteen NHL games, LA seven to two over Carolina, Nashville won five to two, beating Toronto, Dallas in overtime, defeated Philadelphia three to two, Vegas a six to three winner against Detroit, and in a game Edmonton holding on Layton regulation for to three against Seattle. Are reminder Nascars on FS one again the next four Sundays and IndyCars back on Fox TV tomorrow. All seventeen IndyCar races this season are on Fox TV, so that would include the Indy five hundred in late May and Everything's Final. Now. In women's college hoops, as they opened their national tournament this weekend, LSU won the late game one oh three forty eight over San Diego State, and one seed Texas won tonight one oh five sixty one against William and Mary. We mentioned the dominant wins for USC and Yukon, NC State won by twenty Oklahoma eighty one fifty eight. North Carolina won its game seventy to forty nine. There was also an Iowa win of ninety two to fifty seven today, and on and on and on, but two, specifically this USC home game, and they are a one seed, but really upset about being one of the lower one seeds.
Somebody said that yesterday there were two ta I think it was South Carolina.
USC complained about being one seeds.
It's amazing, Okay, you know South Carolina. You know all your games are televised, right, yeah, we saw you down thirty.
What was the complaint exactly? I'm not being sarcastic.
I saw the heavy, scheduled, tough, and they won a lot of games, and so why should we even schedule that way?
To be a one seed?
Though?
Well, but I know Yukon's in USC's bracket, which was controversial, right.
You got the great teams and USC stuck with Yukon. In other words, I think that was really what they were saying without saying it interesting. But South Carolina, they were down thirty at UCLA. Is that recorded?
You know, that's a loser attitude and I'll just say, like I remember Dan Lanning being asked in the college football playoff, you got the number one seed in New Drew, Ohio State, and Dan Lanning was like, we're gonna have to play great teams at some point where they're gonna win or what not. It's like, USC, You're you're gonna have to play somebody good at some point something.
And that's somebody good is not UNC Greensboro.
No offense.
Because the final today for the women of Troy was seventy one to twenty five way the losing side shot seven of fifty four from the floor, seven baskets and twenty three turnovers.
Is Saga three.
There is no discrepancy like women's college basketball between like the halves and half nats. And this isn't just this year. It's been like this forever. And for me, I have a really good team gets really bad when it's like.
I'll go a step further because you have top twenty five matchups for many years in women's basketball, that will be twenty point blowouts that you generally don't see regular season men's.
In our three, you should we should play a game two real scores in a fake.
Score and you just have for real. I know what we know. All these teams won big, but I don't know by how much I.
Can finish that game right now. Because let's not forget the Duke home game last night, because they topped what USC did today. Duke's final was eighty six twenty five over Lehigh and the losing side there had nine baskets and thirty turnovers in eighty forty minute game.
And I thought Saint John's Arkansas, which had more fouls than made field goals for most of the game, was bad. That that's thirty turnovers. This is a lot to give to the other team. To Sega, is anything else before we will get back to college troops? Yes, I was gonna say, well, we get back to you in about ten minutes from now with our extended update to end hour two.
Thank you very much to Seger.
All Right, Fox Sports Radio er towards Jason Martin, we are taking you up till two am Eastern, a little bit of a quiet week in the NFL. J mart there are some news and notes I want to get to. Let's start with the obvious. Aaron Rodgers does not have a team yet. What is your take? Do you care.
No, But my daughter turned one yesterday, so that's a birthday.
What's your name?
I'm sorry, her name is Ivy Beth.
Happy birthday, Ivy Beth. Wow.
Do you think Aaron Rodgers will have a team by the time Ivy Beth turns two?
I honestly don't care.
All right, let's move out to some other news and notes from the week. Le ask you this in all seriousness. I found this is This story's you know, close to a week old at this point, but you and I haven't been on air since it happened. I found the discourse on the Jamar Chase and t Higgins extensions a little bit strange. So everybody knows by now, but Jamar Chase signs an extension four years, one hundred and sixty one million, highest paid non quarterback in NFL history. T Higgins four years, one hundred and fifteen million. I understand the defense was abysmal. I would also counter by saying two things. One, if you draft right, you can find talent on the defensive side of the football. You look at the Rams this year, Jared Vers, Brayden Fisk. I mean that's just one example. Yeah, But two, all I've heard for like two years. The Bengals are cheap. They're not going to be able to keep this insane offensive core together. It's like, well, they did what you asked for, and people are still complaining now saying you didn't save any money for the defensive side of the football. So maybe I'm missing something. I'm not trying to pretend like I have all the answers, but I was surprised at the discourse around the fact that not only did not only excuse me, did Jamar Chase sign an extension, but t Higgins signed a high contract extensions while a lot of money.
All right, So I'm of two minds on this, but I'm gonna take it from a perspective where I I'm a little bit critical of it only. I mean, I understand you want those guys because they've been part of your success. But here's the thing. You haven't won a super Bowl with them in house. All you're doing is running it back like you you better do what you suggested what the Rams did in the draft. The Bengals are gonna either need to do that or we are gonna have a problem. You get rid of lou Ana Roumo, who gets hired like five seconds afterwards, because I don't think he was your problem as your defensive coordinator. But here you are paying the guys that were already there. You scoring points wasn't your problem last year. Those guys were in house and they were doing work for you. Last year. The problem was you couldn't stop anybody on the other side of the ball. It's not like they're all of a sudden going to be more prolific because they were already superb last season. So you are going to have to do something on the defensive side of the ball because you're committing money to where it's already been. Those guys are already there, they've already given you their max. With Burrow as the quarterback and those guys, it's a great, well oiled machine offensively, but that's not your problem. Your offense was good enough to get you to a super Bowl, if not win one, perhaps, but your defense wasn't good enough to even get you into the playoffs. So what you did is you paid what you already had, but you've still got the same problem that you had beforehand. So that would be my real takeaway on it. Even though I understand what you're saying, and I think your point about the rams and being able to find guys in the draft is well taken, but they'd better get that job done.
Yeah, And I don't know that it's like the strongest take I've ever had. I just I think, you know, especially it's I think what it is, more so than anything, is really two things. Is one we've been told for years. And by the way, I think it's accurate that the organization is pretty cheap. They don't have money like other teams. Do you know, it's a family owned business. They've never spent you know t J. Huschmanzada who's done some stuff here as well as FS one. I believe like the story that he tells is like as recently as when he played like eight or nine years ago. They didn't even have an indoor practice facility, so five feet of snow they be practicing outside.
And so to me, I.
Understand, you know, you do you do have to prioritize other spots, and you haven't won with this core and whatever. I guess My point is just I've heard for years that they're not even gonna be willing to spend the money. They do spend the money, they keep that core and by the way, they're not gonna spend the money. T Higgins is gonna walk and you're gonna let a very skilled guy go. So I guess that's my only thing is And again it's not that they don't have holes on the roster that have to be addressed. And to your point and to my point as well, it's like they do have to actually nail draft picks or it's just gonna be you know, fun team, bad stats all that. Let me ask you this, We'll stay on the uh, We'll stay on the Cincinnati Bengals because obviously Joe Burrow was incredible. And one couple things is, first of all, I understand that you know they started zero and three, they started three and five. Let's see, they started three and seven, three and six overall, three and six, so.
They got to start better. Do you think though.
The other thing that's been a factor it feels like Joe Burrow is always coming into the season, you know, not healthy at a pendicitis that one year, I don't even remember what happened in the preseason. This year they went five straight to put themselves back in position late in the season. But I also think part of this too is like, yes, the defense wasn't good enough, and yes they were limited, but this is also a team that did win five straight to end the regular season. That was the proverbial team that nobody would have wanted to see. I just feel like, you know, so, if they could just get off to some better starts, then all of a sudden, they're in the playoffs.
It's a little bit I don't know. I don't even know where I'm trying to go with this.
I just I don't think they're as far off as they're may be perceived, considering the defense and considering the fact that they did not make the playoffs this year.
Yeah, I mean again, the offense is elite and Burrow is as good as you want to be. But you've got to stop people, and you did a very very poor job of that this year. As a matter of fact, the defense seems to just get worse every single year. And it's not I don't again, I don't think it's on lou Anarumo. We'll see, you know, he's going to be into his new home and we'll see how they do this year. But they just didn't have the talent, they didn't have the personnel. They were aging in bad spots. Hendrickson was pretty good, but they even were looking at trying to maybe even move him if the deal came around. This is a scenario for me, like, if you believe the way that you believe, then you need to set a rookie contract somewhere else. You need to set a rookie contract deal where you get somebody that is star level talent for a rookie deal. And look, I don't know, I don't think this is even doable, but it was me and I'm the Bengals, I'm like, hmm, what's going to take to get up and get Like I would give up assets to go get Abdul Carter for example, if I were them, because this is the opportunity, like give up a little bit of the future to go do that, or go get Travis Hunter because you know, New England is craving that. Like that's what New England wants, I think is to draft Travis Hunter and think that he is still going to be there because of the way the quarterbacks will go with Chador probably I still think Shador is probably gonna go third, but cam Moore going number one overall. Like if I'm the Bengals, I'm at least inquiring. I'm making somebody tell me no to go up there and get a game changing player like an Abdul Carter that can anchor my defense for the next decade and is going to be set on a rookie scale, because my quarterback certainly isn't nor are his top targets.
Be very interesting to see.
Obviously, the Bengals coming off as I said that nine and eight season, they won five straight to end the regular season, but of course wasn't enough to make the playoffs. This is Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin will come back to Sager with his extended update. That's all next Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Aeron Torris Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tirek dot Com studio. Shortly after the show, the podcast will be going up. If you missed any of today's show, be sure to check out the podcast. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts, and be sure to follow, rate and review the podcast. Make sure to give it five stars again Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast, and you'll see today's show posted after we get off air.
It's not waste any more time.
Throw it right to the news desk to saga with our extended update.
The floor is yours, my friend.
A lot of college hoops to get to. But I just have to say out loud that the Lakers are losing it home to the Bulls one forty two to one ten. Well what one forty two to one ten and still two minutes left in this game?
Won in the game sixty five to sixty two.
With that half, I mean trailing, but yes, one two for crowd out loud and lebron James did return from two weeks off due to strang groin, seventeen points for him, but a minus twenty seven on the court. Bronni James was a minus thirty six on the court last game.
Just for the record, well, and really quick.
If Bronni was this impact role player that people try to make him out to be after a twenty nine point loss to the Milwaukee Bucks, you think he'd be getting a little bit more playing time tonight.
No, it's just five garbage minutes at the end. And by the way, this is with Luka Donsig back and healthy, and Austin Reeves back and healthy, and I mentioned Lebron and Rui Hachimura healthy and coming off the bench.
Wow.
Talk about laying an egg at the former Staples Center tonight, Well, you guys reference this early in tonight's show. The first round of the NCAA Men's Tournament didn't exactly give us a lot to cheer for, and in fact these are the numbers. Thursday and Friday combined, only four games were sided by five points or less. That ties for the fewest such close games since the tournament expanded in nineteen eighty five. Meanwhile, in the first round, we had ten games decided by twenty five points or more, the most since expansion in the mid eighties. Congrats to the Michigan Wolverines who are still alive. It was one year ago they hired Dusty May as head coach. He'd made his name at Florida Atlantic, a Michigan program that a year ago had started that season six and five and then won only two games the rest of the year. Michigan one year ago finished eight and twenty four and right now is in the Sweet sixteen. Statsing says no other college basketball team has lost that many games one season and then made the Sweet sixteen. The very next season, since the Sweet sixteen officially began in nineteen seventy five, which took me on a tangent. How is it that to Sweet sixteen only was invented in nineteen seventy five? They had regional semis before. Then turns out that the year before they had twenty five schools in the national tournament. Nineteen seventy five, they got up to thirty two schools and called it a Sweet sixteen. But if you were up through nineteen seventy four, for example, the really good teams, you didn't play a George Mason or a Grand Canyon no offense in the early rounds. If you were really good, you started with your Sweet sixteen game. So Michigan that year, for example, started with a game against Notre Dame UCLA in nineteen seventy four started with a triple overtime game in the Sweet sixteen, where Bill Walton start in the advance. Keep in mind, the second round of this year's NCAA Men's Tournament ends tomorrow and the late game will be in Seattle, and it's a Pac twelve matchup, or would have been Arizona against Oregon's The late game at nine forty five Eastern. Tomorrow night, we're going to have a similar schedule to what we had today, where we'll have a couple of essentially standalone games and then the rest start Tomorrow night at five point fifteen Eastern, but the two standalones are about noon Eastern. It's one seed Florida against UK after that. Also in Raleigh, one seed Duke against Baylor. Course, the Duke campus very very close to Raleigh, North Carolina. And how about Purdue getting to play close to home. In the Sweet sixteen. Perdue was a winner over McNeese to start today, seventy six sixty two. Purdue led by twenty two before halftime. Trey Kaufman ran twenty two points fifteen rebounds. This is a Purdue team that in the final month of the season went three and six, but they're on too the Sweet sixteen, and it's Purdue against Houston in Indianapolis, about an hour from the Purdue campus. This is a four seed getting an advantage the way the bracket went. Purdue coach Matt Painter, by the way, in his sixteen career NCAA tournaments, has made the Sweet sixteen, now eight times. Mcnee's coach will Wade could be headed to NC State now. Reportedly, according to AP, it's going to be a six year contract. But the boiler Makers, who were up twenty seven to eleven after the first twelve minutes today the last Southland Conference team to be in a Sweet sixteen. Still you'd have to go back to eighty five. The late game went to two seed Tennessee over UCLA sixty seven to fifty eight. I mentioned it's Purdue against Houston next week. Houston's a one seed and eliminated Againstzaga tonight eighty one seventy six. Gonzaga correct pronunciation saw L J. Cryer with thirty points. The Big Twelve Conference teams are nine and one so far in this tournament. Saint John's is out. Arkansas beat him seventy five sixty six. Coach John Calipari into the Sweet sixteen for the sixteenth time with four different schools. An Arkansas team that started conference season zero to five. Saint John's in the last three minutes shot one for nine from the floor. Overall shot twenty eight percent. The two teams from three point range today four for forty one combined. Arkansas led by two with three minutes to go and yes, r J. Lewis, who averaged nineteen points a game. Conference Player of the Year for Saint John's, who had twenty nine points in the Big East Final, three of seventeen shooting in this game, and Scott one of ten from the floor. The Texas Tech win was against Drake seventy seven sixty four into the Sweet sixteen Texas Tech against Arkansas Thursday in San Francisco, after the Red Raiders outscored Drake inside fifty to twenty a mismatch there at Texas Tech, Senior guard Chance McMillan averages fourteen points a game, was out again due to injury.
Thank you very much, Steve Disager. You mentioned all the great college basketball.
So we're gonna do.
We're gonna come back and talk more college basketball. We'll talk Arkansas, Saint John's.
We'll talk about some of Sunday's games, a loaded eight games slate on Sunday. And oh, by the way, Disager matched it not very many upsets over the course of the last couple days. Why is that? I think we know the answer. We're gonna explain it all next. Aer Tors Jason Martin taking you till two am. Eastern Fox Sports Radio. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Welcome man, everybody, our three tours and Martin, Fox Sports Radio. Yes, it is our three. I said last hour was our three. This one really is our three. We're broadcasting live from the tyreck dot Com studios. Tirerac dot com will help you get there an unmatched selection, fast free shipping, free road hazard protection, and over ten thousand recommended installers. Tyreck dot com the way tires buying should be air tors. Jason Martin taking the up till two am Eastern time. Bernie Fratto of The Bernie Frado Show follows us.
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You know, let me ask you this.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna give you your choice here, Jamaart, we talked a lot of cal and Patino to open the show. Prefer to talk a little bit about that game. We also have some thoughts on why there have been so few big upsets. It's up to you. What is j mart feeling we can do on one now, one later? Does it matter to you? Should we reset the biggest stories of the day.
What are your thoughts? I kind of like the I like the story about Thursday and Friday and what didn't happen and really diving into why. But let's cover what happened today and then we can get to that maybe in the extended segment.
Yeah, I think that's probably the right move for people. By the way, who missed any of our one or hour two, you can always download the podcast. But where we led was with what was the biggest story of the day. Not a lot of upsets, obviously in the first two rounds. I don't know if you can call a ten beating a seven in round one and upset, but that was certainly one. As the Arkansas Razorbacks beat the Kansas Jayhawks on Thursday, it's set up obviously just a super high profile game on Saturday afternoon in Providence, Rick Patino, two seed with the Saint John's Red Storm, Big East Regular season champs, Big East Tournament Champs.
They came in as a pretty comfortable favorite.
Arkansas, of course, with John Caliperi, you know, a guy that kind of had been you know, not literally, but figured figuratively, had been left for dead last year in his final game at Kentucky loses to a fourteen seed as a three seed to Oakland in twenty twenty two, lost to a fifteen seed when he had the second seeded Kentucky Wildcats. Well, yeah, if you thought Cal was done, if you thought he was dead, think again. As he said on the court after the game, they threw us in the coffin. They just forgot the nails. Arkansaw wins. They beat the second seeded Saint John's Red Storm. The Arkansas Razorbacks are headed to the Sweet sixteen as a ten seed. Seventy five sixty six. John Caliperry, who could do no right, Rick Patino, who threw out the season and could do no wrong. Cal gets the last laugh. Razorbacks to San Francisco next weekend.
Yeah, look at the hard fought game. The one thing we didn't talk as much about, and I wish we had talked well less about it even than we did in the first hour, is, Man, if you're gonna have teams that play that physically, oh that's their mo why are you calling the game so tightly, like especially inconsistently so, because it's like they let some stuff go a little bit in the first half, and then the second half they called I mean, it was way too tight. They called stuff that wasn't even fouls. But even then, like they did not let them play at all, when it was clear that both teams wanted that, the fans wanted that, the coaches wanted that that was their style, and the rest decided to make it about them. At one point I saw stat there were forty three made field goals and thirty nine fowls well like thirty six minutes into the game. That is absolutely embarrassing.
Let's do some quick math here.
Twenty seven made field goals for Arkansas, twenty four fouls, twenty one made field goals for Saint John's twenty fouls a total of so that would be forty eight made free forty eight made field goals, forty four fouls. Oh, by the way, a combined forty eight free throw attempts as well. I hate to say it was a story of the game. And the one thing I will say and Rick Patino, we talked about some of his negative comments neither you and I neither you nor I loved, but he did say and I think anybody who watched the game agrees the better team did win. And I guess if there's any sort of saving grace about how much the refs hijacked that game, it's that it was equally terrible on both ends. Kadar, you know, for for Kentucky or for Kentucky. There you go talk about Cali Perry for Arkansas. With Cali Perry, you know, Zvona vere Visitch, a backup forward, filed out five personal fouls and ten minutes. Jonas Adu Arkansas is probably their best low post player, had four fouls and what was crazy was had two basically sat probably the back half of the first half. Comes in immediately, picks up a third, comes out, picks up a fourth, and basically sat for virtually all of the first probably twelve minutes of the second half.
Oh by the way.
It was equally as bad for Saint John's Kadari Richmond, a star guard who was really one of the X factors on their team this year. I mean he was you know r J. Lewis one Big East Player of the year. Zub edge of four was awesome. Kanari Richmond averaged thirteen points, six rebounds, five assists per game, so you can you can think about the impact that not having him would have. He foles out five total fouls in a grand total of sixteen minutes of play. So if there's any saving grace, and there isn't in a game like that, is that It was called equally awful both ways, and even Rick Patino said after the game, to his credit, the right team won independent of how poorly it was called.
Yeah, look, you just got to be better than that. If you're an official, like if you are watching that and you're in charge of the officials for the tournament, like that robbed, I mean, that game deserved better, Like they deserve to be able to be as physical as they wanted to be and let that thing be the war that it was trending to be in the first half because the play that fouled Richmond out for Saint John's late or maybe what five six minutes left in the game, wasn't even a foul. I mean he went straight up and the foul was called anyway, And it's just why am I hearing a whistle every single time down the floor? It made the thing almost unwatchable because it turned into a free throw contest between two teams that can't shoot free throw, so you're just watching a bunch of bricks from the free throw line. It was that game, and you sent a message because we were talking about the Thursday Friday stuff and you said, hey, you were looking for a good one. This is a war. It was until the refs took it out of their hands, and that was just unfortunate because that thing would have continued to be a war. It would have been an absolute battle. And they left it all on the floor. Both teams left it all on the floor, but the refs just got way too involved for my taste.
Yeah, I sent you this tweet. Matt and Orlander is a reporter for CBS Sports. Great at what he does, so this is not a criticism, but he is not one to do, really frankly, to do anything other than celebrate college basketball. And I bring it up because during the game he was at the game in Providence, he tweeted, quote, it's Rick Patino versus John Caliperry, It's Saint John's versus Arkansas. With the sweet sixteen to the line, the officiating in the foul calls can't be the story, and it's getting very close to being the story. And frankly that was probably with seven eight minutes left in the game, and so it did become a story. I don't think it became the I think Arkansas was the deserving team. I think Arkansas wins. What do you make of John Caliperry man, Like I said, last three NCAA tournament, So basically for people who don't follow this stuff regularly, the last time cal made it to the second weekend was twenty nineteen. Twenty twenty, there was no tournament. Like every year, he certainly had a team good enough. Twenty twenty one weird bubble year, misses the tournament, twenty twenty two loses to a fifteen seed, twenty twenty three makes it to the second round where he loses. Twenty twenty four, last year loses to Oakland, a fourteen seed. He's going back to the sweet sixteen. I think the Sega shared the stat incredible stat sixteenth trip to the second weekend of the NCAA tournament. And for a guy that it feels like a lot of people had given up on, he's washed up, he's over the hill.
He's stealing money from Arkansas.
When the team started zero five and sec play, they are going to be one of the last sixteen teams standing.
When we advanced the next weekend.
Yeah, and my takes still the same as it wasn't the first hour. This is a guy that just feels like he has a new lease on life because the pressure is just different what he dealt with in Lexington. That pressure cooker just doesn't exist anywhere near the same way. At Arkansas. He's given a little bit of room, He's given a little bit of leeway. Zero to five isn't a death knell, Like, let's give him a chance. We know he's capable. He takes everybody he coaches to the NCAA tournament. He wins championships. You know, he won at Kentucky. He almost won a UMass. He came within a couple of free throws of winning in Memphis. This is a guy that knows exactly what he's doing, and he's ours, So let's let him coach. Let's give him some time. And what he has done is taking your team to the sweet sixteen. And he just looks He's still just as competitive, he's still just as fire. He's still yelling at officials and everything else, which he's done since he was probably in diapers. That's just kind of the way he is. But nothing has changed from that regard. But that's what he loves to do. He loves to compete. He loves to coach. That's what he said, because we know he didn't need money. The reason he's stuck around is because he likes coaching basketball. So now he gets to do that without a lot of the extracurricular stuff that I think would had just worn out its welcome on him. I think from a psychological standpoint, he was I ways say he was depressed. I just think he was unhappy.
Let me ask you a question. I want to say he looked. He kind of looks younger, maybe not younger, younger, but he looks like he's lost a little bit of weight. He looks healthier, is maybe the right word. I don't know if you've noticed that as well.
Yeah, I think I think there's something to that. I mean, you know, you hear that adage about, you know, the president of the United States and how they age. Yeah, you know how Barak looked before he got into office compared to what happened eight years later, and even Trump four years in, and obviously what happened to Joe, And like, there's something to it. The pressure that he was facing couldn't have been good for his overall health, couldn't have been good for his mental health, but it also probably wasn't good for his sleep patterns, his physical health. All that stuff wears on you. And you know, he goes down to Arkansas and he's able to go coach, and he's able to coach a little bit more under the radar as much as a John Calipari could be underneath the radar. He's there doing that, and you're right, like, just in the way that he talked after this game on the floor, there was just a sense of it just it was like it's not the fountain of youth. It was just like he got a real jolt, like he grabbed a red bull or something. He was able to turn back the clock a little bit. Show up at the high school reunion looking a little bit better than people remembered, like he just he the just there was a little bit more of a spring in his step. He didn't seem quite as forlorn went and sweating quite as much. It just I agree with you. I don't know exactly how to describe it, but he just looked different in a positive way.
Really quickly.
On Patino, we don't have to play the sound. But thought first of all, last four or five minutes of the game that the big East play of the year is on the bench now. His argument, and he said it in the post game, was r J. Lewis is the player's name r J. Lewis in this game was I believe two of seventeen for some reason, the box fers three of seventeen in thirty minutes played. And Patino's kind.
Of quote was, was you know, you know why he didn't play three of seventeen. Next question avoids the conversation, but the Big East player of the year is on the bench, in the play, in the plays that matter the most. I also thought it's a little nerdy.
Basketball, you know X's and O stuff, but Arkansas front line had nothing but follow trouble all game long. Zoobi edge of four for Saint John's, who was their best player twenty three points, twelve rebounds.
Really didn't get the ball a lot late.
I just thought, for a Hall of Fame coach, you know, everybody has bad days on the job.
I just thought it was a really bad day.
For Rick Patina, very very weird day, very bad day, very peculiar day in just kind of how it played out. I mean, you left Lewis on the bench for the last five game minutes of a game that was very tight and a game that could have gone either way. I don't care if he was three for seventeen, if he makes a couple down the stretch, you still win the game. And even if you want to take him out, just say, man, he's feeling himself a little bit too much in the wrong direction, Like he's just he's kind of in his he's kind of in his own head. Let me sit him down until the under four time out. Let me sit him down for one minute or so. Then we'll get the under four. Then we'll get him back out there and we'll get him going. Not to put him back in at all, and to lose the game, and even in the last couple of minutes, not to put him back in when you know that you needed him in those moments. I just I can't really explain it, and him pointing to the score sheet and saying, well, I mean you look, he wasn't able to score, so I took him out of the game. That's like something a petulant child does. That's like taking your ball and going home. I don't understand what the thought process was. It's almost like he went on tilt I think for something like that in a poker game and just completely lost his cool. I agree, and lost his savvy and lost his competitive spirit and just kind of was like, screw this man, I want to go home. And that was unfortunate. It really was.
Saint John's a thirty percent three point shooting team.
R J.
Lewis of the players who play the second best three point shoot at about thirty four and a half percent. Not a great percentage, but when you need buckets, and oh, by the way, your third leading scorer, Kadari Richmond, had already filed out, so it wasn't as though you had a ton of great options to begin with very strange from Rick Patino. Again, hall of famer, did incredible things at Saint John's at a place that I think most of us thought incredible things could no longer be done, but was not his best day. I think the analogy that you use going on tilt, I think it's totally fair. I think John Calipari has him on tilt. As John Caliperi and Arkansas headed to the Sweet sixteen, they will play Texas Tech on Thursday night.
Tell you what, jmart do you want to come back?
Do you want to put a bow on the first three days of the NCAA tournament and maybe the story of the tournament bigger picture. There've basically been no upsets. All the one seeds have won all. The two seeds coming into today had one, same with the three, same with the fours. And I think there's a very simple explanation as to why that's next. Fox Sports Radio.
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So J mart I thought Saturday of.
The NCAA tournament was phenomenal, not just Arkansas Saint John's, but you know Houston.
I don't, I don't.
I'm still not sure what happened in the Houston game.
They were just up and then they it was a two point game, and then they win eighty.
One seventy six.
The number one seed in the Midwest advances to Indianapolis next week. BYU was another one. They were up double digits seemingly the whole game. All of a sudden it wiscons it as the ball with ten seconds left in a chance to tie or win the game. But I bring it up because while Saturday was awesome, I do think that uh, Thursday and Friday left a little bit to be desired. First time, I believe ever, all for number one, number two, number three, and number four seeds all won their opener. So, in other words, top sixteen teams there were no upsets. I guess the biggest upset was probably mc knees over Clemson. Yeah, Drake over Missouri was a sixth eleven, five to twelve, whatever. You get the point, there weren't a lot of upsets. I have my theories as to why, but I'm curious if you have any thoughts on why. At least the first two days of the tournament were pretty low key.
No, I mean not really. I really want your opinion just because I already know it because I asked you about this this morning and your response was so on point and so much common sense, And I even read some articles since we chatted, and basically they were just saying, yeah, there's not a whole lot of upsets, but there's no there's no new information, like there was no diagnosis as to why this was happening. But I will say that I made the point to you over the last few weeks that I've enjoyed this college basketball season more than many in recent memory, at least this last handful of years, because I don't know, it just felt like the level of play was better amongst a lot of the teams that I watched a good bit of their games during the season, And you said you know, I agree that that was that that made sense. So I just want to give you the floor and then I'll react to what you say, just because I know where you're going and it's just an opinion that I'm surprised I haven't seen anywhere else because it makes total sense.
Yeah, first of all, I thought of you, you know, kind of when the bracket comes out. I'm reading a few different things from different people, and I'm not you know, I don't read a ton of other people's stuff, but I just bring it up.
I'm trying to find the article now.
CJ.
Moore from The Athletic brought up basically, he brought up some advanced analytics that seem to indicate that basically, the top of college basketball is actually better. The teams themselves are better than they've been in really quite some time, like you know, not thirty years, not fifty years, but probably better than they were ten years ago. And the argument was, and I think this is why we had so few upsets. I think it's pretty simple. Is the mid May the starman major players are just going to the power conferences and you know, one I think everybody kind of knows, but for people who don't. And by the way, I thought Will Wade kind of shedded a lot of light on this in mcneese's win, where he basically said, yeah, you know, everyone's asking me about the NC State job, but it's great for these guys because they're gonna have coaches in their dms left and right after this game.
And I bring it up because what has.
Happened is, you know, I think everybody knows this, but it's not just that NIL has come into college sports. It's that NIL is coming to sports with unlimited transfers. And so what has happened is is that basically these mid major rosters just getting cherry picked year over year over year. I mean, it's crazy because the portal is about to open on Monday, but you kind of know guys are starting to announce, Hey, I'm planning on entering the portal whatever, blah blah blah blah blah. And it's like, basically, if you average double figures in the mid major, you're trying to transfer up. And what's happened and is now these high major teams, the SEC, the Big Ten, the Big twelve, they just have so much money to spend that you kind of have to like. It's it's no longer you want to stay at the school you like because your girlfriend's there, you like the coach, like, you just have to go. The money is getting so big at the high major levels, and so I think it's just pretty straightforward, is what you see is the best man major players are now virtually all transferring up to the high majors, and all you gotta do is essentially look at the All American teams. Yeah, you have a Cooper Flag's who's a freshman, and you know, one and done. But Jed I Broom at Auburn maybe the national player there. He started his career at Morehead State. Walter Clayton at Florida started ironically, we're just talking about Rick Patino. He played for Rick Patino at Iona before transferring Florida. Atlantic makes that run of the Final Four a few years ago, and their whole roster. Janelle Davis was on the court for Arkansas today, Vlad Golden was on the court for Dusty May in Michigan today. Who's the other one? Elijah Martin, their third star plays for Florida. And so it's just I think it's really actually a pretty simple diagnosis. I think the top of the sport, the analytics would tell you, is actually better because you're getting teams are able to kind of reload their rosters. And then unfortunately the mid majors are not as good as they've been because all the best players are leaving now. I don't think that necessarily means that we'll never see a five we'll never see a thirteen seed or a fourteen seed win a tournament game again. But I just think the top of the sport has gotten better because all these guys are transferring up to the high major level.
Yeah, and so you're not getting then the mid major that that's like juniors and seniors like guys that have been there a while that are part of that system that have just gotten better and better and better. And this is you know, kind of maybe their last shot or whatever like that those guys are already gone. I think the big one that you mentioned that I just happened to notice in the same kind of time for him as you mentioning, was Davis. Like I saw him you made that point in the like ten minutes later, I saw him shooting free through for Arkansas. Yeah, and it all of a sudden clicked with me again, like, oh yeah, he was part of that New Yor championship crazy run. Fau went on. And it's not just the coaches that are getting cherry picked anymore, it's all the players. And so it just becomes an arms race where the arms are all these mid major programs because of the unlimited transfers and the non delay, not having to sit out a year, all this kind of stuff. It's just there's no way for those those smaller schools really to compete. And you're right, like Will Wade has got real candid this week on a couple of different things, and I think that's a big one. It's just I feel good for these guys, even though yeah, I'm gonna leave. They're all going to be out of here too, because they got an opportunity and shined and showed that they can help a team. And the truth of the matter is, you're they can't afford not to go because most of them are not going to the NBA. They become part of a championship like run or part of a top flight team in one of these big schools and get some money and that's more than they were gonna make in the first place. And it's not like they're gonna be a somebody's gonna play in the association. So they get their opportunity to cash in at the college level earlier to the detriment of about eighty five to ninety percent of the sport, which at this point the chances that they had before they're just not gonna have anymore.
Yeah, and you know, and that's exactly right?
Is that basically I think even like the when nil was first introduced and nobody really kind of knew exactly what was going on, I think these mid majors could kind of sell a kid, Hey, come back, we'll help you get set up with some stuff. But listen, it is what it is. It's become pay for play. And now again we hear story. You know, listen, this is an extra dream example. And this is in a mid major to a high major. But like we know what Carson Beck is reportedly making at Miami, right, it ain't pocket change, Like we're talking about millions of dollars. And so do we have a number on Jani Broom at Auburn. No, But I feel pretty comfortable saying he's making a crap ton of money. He may never play in the NBA, and it's certainly more money than he could have made uh staying at the mid major level. And so it just it is what it is. It's unfortunate, but it's just the reality. The other thing I was thinking too, we were talking about the Florida State or the Florida Atlantic example. A great example of the team that you talked about of guys just developing within that within a program. The San Diego State team that they played in the Final four, that played Yukon two years ago. I remember being there and looking at their roster. This was San Diego State. Basically every guy was a fifth or sixth year senior that had all been at San Diego State and they loved being there. And again it was before nil really blew up, and it was all fifth and six of your guys that have been there forever. And then again time goes on, those guys get phased out. They're starting point guard actually is now at Kentucky. But that was the perfect example of a team that was able to kind of grow together, had made a few tournaments, and then that final year could make a run.
And now I just again, there will be eleven.
Seeds or thirteen seeds or whatever that make the second weekend. I don't think that that's gone forever. But I think the idea, like you said, of a team coming in as freshmen and then like they's sophomore year they make the tournament, and then their junior year they like, I think those days, unfortunately are over.
So I mean, look, I think the question that it's we can ask it even though you don't have a choice in this matter. If you're a viewer, are you willing to sacrifice Thursday and Friday for more competitive games a little bit faster moving forward? Because we'll see what happens today, but we know what happened yesterday. You had some pretty solid games with less of the digit seeds, and so maybe the storylines were a bit different, but the level of basketball was higher and so the games were better. So the question is what is the NCAA Tournament to you? Is it the Thursday Friday crazy upset for UNC, you know, Wilmington or whoever it might be in that moment. Is it the Northern Iowa Ali Farutemanesh Bryce Drew Valparaiso, that kind of thing? Is it that? Or is it more about the final four? Is it more about making sure, the elite teams, the teams that are the most talented, are in the Sweet sixteen, are in the Elite eight. Have gotten through all of those other kinds of things and a lot of the chaff. I hate to say it that way, but a lot of the chaff's been separated. It's been winnowed. You've thrown it up into the air. The seeds have hit the ground, and the rest of it's been pushed away. The husk of the corn is gone. Now you can actually just enjoy the harvest. Like is that okay with you? Because I think most people would say that the NCAA tournament is more about Thursday and Friday than it is about the rest of the tournament. But I think from a sports watching perspective, how we evaluated Aaron and how most I would think of our listeners view it. It's important that the final four, the Elite eight, and all those things are good. It's important that you have really competitive matchups with top flight deals, and you're more likely to have that at the expense of the madness, so to speak, of March or the bracket being busted. I saw you my brackets in pretty good shape. I think it was like second or third, tied for third or something in our fox bracket or whatever. And I wasn't like blown away by that, just because there weren't a lot of upsets, so my bracket didn't have a chance to get busted. So I imagine most people's brackets are in better shape this year than they have been in most because if you didn't pick a lot of upsets, you're in pretty good shape right now.
Yeah, it's funny. I was actually thinking about that is one quality of play.
I think there's three things that actually help that people would say, oh, I love the upsets, but it helps. One is that you get a better quality of play the deeper the tournament goes on. Two, you could sit there and say that, oh, you love the upsets, but the ratings would reflect that the average fan wants the big brands and the star players, the Cooper Flags, the Dukes, the Kentucky's, the Hoomever's. And then three, I think it helps because it keeps people invested because their brackets are doing well. Whereas you know, three seed upsets of fourteen seed, it's gonna be hard for you to make a run if you have that team going deep. So it's something to think about. It's something to consider. But I will say is again, I'm not saying that we'll never see a big upset, but I do think that it does feel like the days of those mid majors I think are done. And then I think, as well, I just think it's gonna be harder to topple these teams because again, they can just build with established college players every spring, get a roster together and go from there. Fox Sports Radio air tors Jason Martin Bront casting live from the tyreq dot com studios, will come back start to look ahead to a fun slate of games on Sunday. Before we do though final time this evening, let's get it to the news desk to Sega.
What is trending?
What you have mentioned before has happened in sports where you get no upsets early but tons of excitement late. Famously, in baseball, nineteen eighty six playoffs came after there were no division races that went down to the stretch. It was nothing at the end of the regular season, and then you got the absolute classic Red Sox Angels ALCS and the legendary Red Sox Mets World Series.
And it Mets Astros game six go like eighteen names.
Absolutely it did, and that was the clinching game. So you did wind up with games that are still talked about, you know, yeh forty years or so later. So hopefully that's what we're getting what you were referencing with the top four seeds in each region going undefeated. It was sixteen and zero for the first round. That has happened five times before since the expansion in the eighties. But what was the the record was the blowouts. They didn't They weren't just undefeated. It was an average margin of victory of twenty three points for the top four.
Next tournament or women's tournament, which what are we talking about here?
Really imitating the latter. We will go to get a lot more college hoops in just a moment, but I must mention this shocker of a late game in the NBA. The Lakers are completely healthy now and they lost at home to the Chicago Bulls one forty six one to one point fifteen, which means the Lakers tied their franchise record allowing one forty six in a home game. That's their most ever non overtime. They also in nineteen eighty four allowed one forty six to a Nuggets team that seemed to score one forty six every night back then. But Josh Giddy of the Bulls not only had a triple double in LA tonight fifteen points, ten rebounds, seventeen assists, Giddy had eight steals as well lab assists. He had seventeen assists, only two turnovers and eight ste.
I mean, but the Bulls are clearly the best team in the leage of meat.
So there's a team that entered thirty and forty and the Lakers are completely healthy, including Lebron back and Luca had about thirty points in three quarters, and my goodness, was it lops well.
Josh Gitty is the guy that went for thirty twenty Oh no, that was that was Nicole Jokic.
My badness. I get them confused by.
The way Josh Gitty almost a quadruple double in this game. Nikola Jokic and the Nuggets will miss another game on Sunday. Bad ankle out for a four straight game. Jalen Brown and the Celtics is out this weekend at least with a bruce knee. He'll be re evaluated on Monday. We'll see when Steph Curry is coming back. He was out tonight as they lost in Atlanta. Pelvic contusion after the fall is the problem. Among the NHL games, LA seven to two over Carolina, Edmonton five to four winners against Seattle. You did reference the women's hoops. Yukon won its opener one to three, thirty four against Arkansas State USC seventy one to twenty five over UNC Greensboro. Oklahoma had a tournament record seventy two rebounds at its win against Florida Gulf Coast eighty one fifty eight FGC is seventeen of seventy two from the floor, So there were those misshots that Oklahoma had, plus the offensive rebounds. Seventy two boards in a forty minute college game.
Anybody seventy sorts.
That is a tournament record. So if they say that, I'm guessing somebody in some lopsided regular season game has done that before. But it is insane. That's a good word. South Dakota State beat Oklahoma State. By the way. For the men's NCAA tournament, of course, is going on. NIT had Bradley and Chattanooga each winning the other six games in their second round Sunday, including Oklahoma State SMU and the CBI Attorney opens on Sunday with four games, including Army against Elon. Check your local listings. In the NCAA Tournament second round, two seed Tennessee eliminated UCLA sixty seven to fifty eight. Houston and Purdue each one. They'll face each each other Friday. In the Sweet sixteen. Houston beat Gonzaga eighty one seventy six. Purdue's win was against mcnee's seventy six sixty two. Texas Tech over Drake seventy seven sixty four. Texas Tech on two pointers twenty six for thirty eight in this game. Thursday in San Francisco, they'll be facing Arkansas. In the Sweet sixteen. Hogs beat two seed Saint John seventy five to sixty six. Auburn and Michigan each one. They'll face each other in Atlanta Friday. In the Sweet sixteen, one seed Auburn beat Creighton eighty two to seventy. Creighton went scoreless for over six minutes in the second half and fell behind by fourteen points. This game had been tied fifty to fifty in the second half, but Auburn in the second half shot sixty percent from the floor. The Michigan win was ninety one seventy nine against Texas A and m Michigan actually trailed by ten with about thirteen minutes to go. This Wolverine's team has five wins in the last nine days, and these last two wins are at altitude in Denver. Very impressive. This was a three point lead with one minute left. Ninety one seventy nine the final and BYU eliminated three seed Wisconsin ninety one eighty nine. John Tangia the Badger's thirty seven points, but he airbowled the final shot. Big ten teams had been ten to zero in the tournament until that game and a final notes, we had a no hitter at spring training with the Orioles beating the Pirates for nothing. Pirates did have regulars in there for a couple of a bats. Eventually, oh for twenty seven at the plate with ten strikeouts and three walks.
Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve de Saga, have a great evening to Sega. Will be back on Sunday with the Gang Spaniard and Plank, Willard and Ephraim. Busy Sunday ahead. Speaking of busy Sunday, well come back.
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I'm trying to think if there's anything that really stands out. I mean, I don't feel like Duke or Florida either one is gonna face too much. No disrespect to Yukon.
I just I'm with you.
We haven't talked about our brackets, but I've got Florida winning the whole thing, sure, and I just I look at the talent and everything else. I don't think Yukon's got the got the horses for this one. And I just kind of look down the rest of this slate and I'm just where is the possible upset. Michigan State struggled for a half and then they looked pretty good in the second half of their first round matchup Ole miss Iowa State. That could be an interesting, interesting matchup. I would say Kentucky in this moment, but Kentucky fans are going to really really have a problem if they don't get out of the first weekend and Cal did well. Not only this, I kind of want to see Illinois win next yame.
Not only that.
Remember Mark Pope left BYU B yusing the Sweet sixteen as well.
Oh yeah, that's right.
Yeah, so that that is a little internet thing, is that?
Listen?
I think Mark Pope's a good a good coach. They have actually dealt with a ton of injuries.
Yeah, they have.
I think he shared a stat on selection Sunday. They're bottom ten in the country in like basically the minutes that would have been like like basically the minutes that could have been played by the players that were expected to play versus the minutes that were actually played. In other words, they've basically had starters out all year long. I'm with you, j Mart. I even saw something like the message board Genius Posts, which is like they just browse message boards where it was there's a lot There were a lot of Kentucky fans on the message boards today basically saying if we lose on Sunday, I am not going to be very happy.
So yeah, I mean, I'm telling you, like, it's gonna be really ugly because and again, they've put themselves out there and tried to mock Cal for whatever reason, and now it's on them. And they're a team that you talk about the injuries. They just haven't been at their best down the stretch of this season, similar to Auburn, but worse. And so they're going against an Illinois team that absolutely will have no problem beating them if they don't show up to play in that game. So I mean that I think maybe is the most intriguing storyline because Cal is in is what happens to Kentucky. And again, if one of the two to one seeds are challenged at all, I think that becomes interesting. Yeah, but yeah, I'm not sure that the other ones anything particularly jumps out. I don't really think Saint Mary's will be able to compete against Alabama, for example, but there's some interesting stuff there is.
I'm with you.
I love my Huskies, but this is not their year. I think Florida rolls in that opener, Duke the same against Bailey.
We gotta get out of here one. I thank the crew of Mary Mack.
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