The big footy issues from every angle, dissected by a team that follows the game closer than anyone else wherever you are around the planet. This is your ultimate guide to the AFL. This is the Fox Footy Podcast.

The big footy issues from every angle, dissected by a team that follows the game closer than anyone else wherever you are around the planet. This is your ultimate guide to the AFL. This is the Fox Footy Podcast.

The twenty twenty four AFL Trade period is finishing very soon, but there's a lot to get done in the next couple of days, So much so that the Fox Footy Podcast has got the upgrade to Studio one ahead of deadline day. Ben Mordworth with you alongside David Skeeter, Zita will fork her on debut, and of course the Triple All Australian and Stars and killed a AFLW coach Nick del Sander, Hello Dale, Hello, Saints are looking nice in the top eight.

The twenty twenty four AFL Trade period is finishing very soon, but there's a lot to get done in the next couple of days, So much so that the Fox Footy Podcast has got the upgrade to Studio one ahead of deadline day. Ben Mordworth with you alongside David Skeeter, Zita will fork her on debut, and of course the Triple All Australian and Stars and killed a AFLW coach Nick del Sander, Hello Dale, Hello, Saints are looking nice in the top eight.

There here we are.

There here we are.

I think we're just in there as it currently stands, got a little bit of work to do. It's going to get harder from here.

I think we're just in there as it currently stands, got a little bit of work to do. It's going to get harder from here.

It will be a very tough run home in the AFL W. Our attention turns to the trade period. Skeeter, My goodness that not much happened on Monday, to say the least. But Dan Houston may be about to become a Collingwood player and a Mega four player five, I've player now three club deal might be on the tanks to Rory Akins thanks to the rat Yes, one of the great men, and there's plenty going on in this Traders I've Actually it's been written down because there's a fairy few moving parts is let me just walk you through where it sits.

It will be a very tough run home in the AFL W. Our attention turns to the trade period. Skeeter, My goodness that not much happened on Monday, to say the least. But Dan Houston may be about to become a Collingwood player and a Mega four player five, I've player now three club deal might be on the tanks to Rory Akins thanks to the rat Yes, one of the great men, and there's plenty going on in this Traders I've Actually it's been written down because there's a fairy few moving parts is let me just walk you through where it sits.

So this is how this deal could go down between Collingwood, Port and Gold Coast. So ultimately, at the end of it all it won't get done in the one transaction. Collingwood would get Dan Houston and some picks in the fifties that they'll then try and turn into picks.

So this is how this deal could go down between Collingwood, Port and Gold Coast. So ultimately, at the end of it all it won't get done in the one transaction. Collingwood would get Dan Houston and some picks in the fifties that they'll then try and turn into picks.

In the forties.

In the forties.

Port Adelaide would get picks thirteen and twenty nine, they'd get Jack Lacosis, They'd get Rory Atkins and Joe Richards from the Pies, and then Gold Coast would get John Noble, a future first from the Pies, a future first from Port Adelaide, and a pick in the thirties. That's how it would all end up by the end of it. A fair bit of a meandering and some AFL house be very busy on the Twitter account then, but ultimately that's what the deal looks like at this stage and Dan Houston gets to Victoria and he plays for Collingwood in twenty twenty two.

Port Adelaide would get picks thirteen and twenty nine, they'd get Jack Lacosis, They'd get Rory Atkins and Joe Richards from the Pies, and then Gold Coast would get John Noble, a future first from the Pies, a future first from Port Adelaide, and a pick in the thirties. That's how it would all end up by the end of it. A fair bit of a meandering and some AFL house be very busy on the Twitter account then, but ultimately that's what the deal looks like at this stage and Dan Houston gets to Victoria and he plays for Collingwood in twenty twenty two.

This all revolves around Dan Houston. I mean, that's clearly the big name within this, but it also has a flow on effects. So then you think, okay, the pie is finished. Last year clearly the premiers of the year before. How significant is that one player going to make in a team sport. Now, we had a similar chat last year, probably not to the same degree, about Lockie Schultz going there. That one didn't excite me as much given that they were the premiers. They had a really good small four line. Obviously jack Ininevan goes out off the back of all that. But this one I love. And you think about the modern game, and the modern game a lot of it's based around a sound team defense and the best teams Brisbane line is what we saw throughout the finals. We've seen pretty much the top four have got a stable defense. What's the only thing that can trump defense is ball use an elite use by foot. Dan Huston fits that bill. Now, I don't know where he sits in regards to the Champion data measurement of skill level, but my eye test says he's got to be in the top ten. They go out of their way forward in previous years to give him the ball, whether he's in a great position or a bad position, because they say, we trust you to distribute the footy as good as anyone. So you add him into the half back line of the Pies that have already been somewhere near their best, one of the best team defenses in the comp. You've got Dust Moore, You've got Quainer who plays that smaller lockdown role. You've got Bruzz Brandon Maynard, you've got the heart edge, You've got side Bottom that's gone back there for a different sort of dynamic. I like that. I love that, and I think they can have an instant boost what they can do next year.

This all revolves around Dan Houston. I mean, that's clearly the big name within this, but it also has a flow on effects. So then you think, okay, the pie is finished. Last year clearly the premiers of the year before. How significant is that one player going to make in a team sport. Now, we had a similar chat last year, probably not to the same degree, about Lockie Schultz going there. That one didn't excite me as much given that they were the premiers. They had a really good small four line. Obviously jack Ininevan goes out off the back of all that. But this one I love. And you think about the modern game, and the modern game a lot of it's based around a sound team defense and the best teams Brisbane line is what we saw throughout the finals. We've seen pretty much the top four have got a stable defense. What's the only thing that can trump defense is ball use an elite use by foot. Dan Huston fits that bill. Now, I don't know where he sits in regards to the Champion data measurement of skill level, but my eye test says he's got to be in the top ten. They go out of their way forward in previous years to give him the ball, whether he's in a great position or a bad position, because they say, we trust you to distribute the footy as good as anyone. So you add him into the half back line of the Pies that have already been somewhere near their best, one of the best team defenses in the comp. You've got Dust Moore, You've got Quainer who plays that smaller lockdown role. You've got Bruzz Brandon Maynard, you've got the heart edge, You've got side Bottom that's gone back there for a different sort of dynamic. I like that. I love that, and I think they can have an instant boost what they can do next year.

Do you think they bounced next year?

Do you think they bounced next year?

Well, I think I do. I think I had a bit of a lala this year. I think injuries probably didn't help them as much. And we've seen throughout history that teams do low after a premiership more often than not. But I think the opposition of Dan Houston is a pretty big one.

Well, I think I do. I think I had a bit of a lala this year. I think injuries probably didn't help them as much. And we've seen throughout history that teams do low after a premiership more often than not. But I think the opposition of Dan Houston is a pretty big one.

For conw just from it from Dan Houston's perspective, because he has probably been not only the centerpiece to this deal, but probably the centerpiece of the trade period so far. DW put us in the position of Dan Houston, who is seeing all these reports flying around. He's probably getting, you know, from the horse's mouth in terms from his management, who's communicating with him as well. What's he going through at the moment. And I suppose how important is the player's manager in a situation line.

For conw just from it from Dan Houston's perspective, because he has probably been not only the centerpiece to this deal, but probably the centerpiece of the trade period so far. DW put us in the position of Dan Houston, who is seeing all these reports flying around. He's probably getting, you know, from the horse's mouth in terms from his management, who's communicating with him as well. What's he going through at the moment. And I suppose how important is the player's manager in a situation line.

I'd like to think there was a conversation at the very start of this, whenever this was sort of bubbling away, and you say to your manager, I only want to hear from you. You tell me the truth. If I've got a question, I just need the honest answer. Don't worry about reading the paper, don't worry about watching the news. I just need it from you because I know at least it's coming from a direct source. I mean, he'll be having sleepless nights. You think about the impact that it has. You know where he plays his football, and he's best football, but he moves state, so it actually changes his life to a certain degree. So it's an ultra important piece, and that's taking out the money side of it. So absolutely there's uncertainty, which causes anxiousness it has a flow and effect to other parts of your life. The piece of comfort for Dan Houston is he's clearly has the contract at Ports. The worst case scenario, you know you're going back to a good club. Best case scenario, you go to somewhere else where you continue to play footing and at the end of the day, that's what he's here to do, play really good football. It's not like, hey, if I don't get picked up, I don't get to ever play again. It's okay, you're a great player and you get to play somewhere else, possibly the MCG in front of eighty odd thousand every single week, like life's okay.

I'd like to think there was a conversation at the very start of this, whenever this was sort of bubbling away, and you say to your manager, I only want to hear from you. You tell me the truth. If I've got a question, I just need the honest answer. Don't worry about reading the paper, don't worry about watching the news. I just need it from you because I know at least it's coming from a direct source. I mean, he'll be having sleepless nights. You think about the impact that it has. You know where he plays his football, and he's best football, but he moves state, so it actually changes his life to a certain degree. So it's an ultra important piece, and that's taking out the money side of it. So absolutely there's uncertainty, which causes anxiousness it has a flow and effect to other parts of your life. The piece of comfort for Dan Houston is he's clearly has the contract at Ports. The worst case scenario, you know you're going back to a good club. Best case scenario, you go to somewhere else where you continue to play footing and at the end of the day, that's what he's here to do, play really good football. It's not like, hey, if I don't get picked up, I don't get to ever play again. It's okay, you're a great player and you get to play somewhere else, possibly the MCG in front of eighty odd thousand every single week, like life's okay.

We're not allowed to have perspectives' in the trade period.

We're not allowed to have perspectives' in the trade period.

That's what it's all about.

That's what it's all about.

In the world is falling apart. Nick Gishen is Dan Houston's manager. He's very cool, calm and collective customer. So I think it'll be keeping Dan Houston pretty calm and saying, oh, just let me handle it later. He's pretty I think he'd be pretty good at that. So I think Dan Houston will be going all right. And it is helped by the fact, like you said that he isn't steadfast gags going back there, even though I don't think anyone thinks he's staying there. That that does help, and it certainly helps the power of negotiations.

In the world is falling apart. Nick Gishen is Dan Houston's manager. He's very cool, calm and collective customer. So I think it'll be keeping Dan Houston pretty calm and saying, oh, just let me handle it later. He's pretty I think he'd be pretty good at that. So I think Dan Houston will be going all right. And it is helped by the fact, like you said that he isn't steadfast gags going back there, even though I don't think anyone thinks he's staying there. That that does help, and it certainly helps the power of negotiations.

I did hear that one of Dan Houston's favorite AFL media programs is the podcast Your Manager. That's Why I Speak the Truth.

I did hear that one of Dan Houston's favorite AFL media programs is the podcast Your Manager. That's Why I Speak the Truth.

He is one of them.

He is one of them.

So we mentioned that deal just then Pick thirteen will be trading hands from that perspective, but will this Pick thirteen from Gold Coast has been probably the most prized draft selection up for grabs during this trade period, and a lot of clubs wanted to get their hands on this selection.

So we mentioned that deal just then Pick thirteen will be trading hands from that perspective, but will this Pick thirteen from Gold Coast has been probably the most prized draft selection up for grabs during this trade period, and a lot of clubs wanted to get their hands on this selection.

I can't remember anything like it. There's seven clubs officially in the race, four pig seven. Obviously we know now that it's probably more than likely heading towards coming with them right lad as well, but all the Hawks, the Saints, North Melbourne, Sydney through their hat in the Ring, the Bulldogs and in the West Coast pending a few negotiations with Tom Rack also in the running for it. I haven't seen anything like it. I'll tell you what dow North's future first round pick, and then some offered for Gold Coast pick thirteen, and that's a pretty hard deal to turn down.

I can't remember anything like it. There's seven clubs officially in the race, four pig seven. Obviously we know now that it's probably more than likely heading towards coming with them right lad as well, but all the Hawks, the Saints, North Melbourne, Sydney through their hat in the Ring, the Bulldogs and in the West Coast pending a few negotiations with Tom Rack also in the running for it. I haven't seen anything like it. I'll tell you what dow North's future first round pick, and then some offered for Gold Coast pick thirteen, and that's a pretty hard deal to turn down.

True, only good players get picked at thirteen. That's the other piece.

True, only good players get picked at thirteen. That's the other piece.

I think it was Patrick Trips.

I think it was Patrick Trips.

I think I was preferring to Patrick Crips. Yeah, I mean the North Melbourne one is an interesting piece. Like you think about the experienced players that they've already brought in this trade period. Caleb Daniel is still getting spoken about Luke Parker, but it's all about youth for them. So I think the purpose of these older guys that they're bringing in is to nurture, educate these younger guys. Sheesel Wardlaw like all these young guys that are actually going to be their future, but these older guys need to do their role and be that piece. So if they can get a couple more of these early picks and not compromise the experience, I think that's great. The one I want to raise is and maybe we've lost this guy a little bit because of the Dean Houston pieces is the coaches. Yep, he's been a talking point for various reasons, good and bad about his role and you know years ago was trying to get back to South Australia were they going to do it? So does he get somewhere near his best and fulfills that elite talent potential that we've seen for years back at Port the Power.

I think I was preferring to Patrick Crips. Yeah, I mean the North Melbourne one is an interesting piece. Like you think about the experienced players that they've already brought in this trade period. Caleb Daniel is still getting spoken about Luke Parker, but it's all about youth for them. So I think the purpose of these older guys that they're bringing in is to nurture, educate these younger guys. Sheesel Wardlaw like all these young guys that are actually going to be their future, but these older guys need to do their role and be that piece. So if they can get a couple more of these early picks and not compromise the experience, I think that's great. The one I want to raise is and maybe we've lost this guy a little bit because of the Dean Houston pieces is the coaches. Yep, he's been a talking point for various reasons, good and bad about his role and you know years ago was trying to get back to South Australia were they going to do it? So does he get somewhere near his best and fulfills that elite talent potential that we've seen for years back at Port the Power.

I think he's a forward. Okay, he's a forward, that's but.

I think he's a forward. Okay, he's a forward, that's but.

I don't know if he had this hand, what does he think he is.

I don't know if he had this hand, what does he think he is.

I think he thinks he's a forward as well. Yeah, and when he came through his draft year, he dominated I think as a ford, particularly for South Australia. It was a dominant South Australian team that had Connor Rosie and Isaac Rankin in it, and he starred inside that inside that forward fifty. But I don't think Damien Hardwick knew where his best position made.

I think he thinks he's a forward as well. Yeah, and when he came through his draft year, he dominated I think as a ford, particularly for South Australia. It was a dominant South Australian team that had Connor Rosie and Isaac Rankin in it, and he starred inside that inside that forward fifty. But I don't think Damien Hardwick knew where his best position made.

He'd admitted that, yeah, he couldn't find a spotful and the fact that he's going. If Damian Harby wanted to keep Jack Lakocha's desperately, he'd be saying, yeah, So I think you know that he obviously can't find the right role and he's happy to let him go in exchange with something in return.

He'd admitted that, yeah, he couldn't find a spotful and the fact that he's going. If Damian Harby wanted to keep Jack Lakocha's desperately, he'd be saying, yeah, So I think you know that he obviously can't find the right role and he's happy to let him go in exchange with something in return.

So we play a little game. Yes, if Jack nickochis fulfills his potential, give me an equivalent play that the level he could get to.

So we play a little game. Yes, if Jack nickochis fulfills his potential, give me an equivalent play that the level he could get to.

Well, have you got one in mind.

Well, have you got one in mind.

No I died, but I was just thinking. We speak about this potential all the time. It gets very dangerous because at some point it's not potential, it's just facts about who.

No I died, but I was just thinking. We speak about this potential all the time. It gets very dangerous because at some point it's not potential, it's just facts about who.

You are, especially in trade period.

You are, especially in trade period.

Of course, of course, But if if Jack Lecochi has actually played somewhere near his best, who is he and what's the equivalent? Like what many goals does he kick?

Of course, of course, But if if Jack Lecochi has actually played somewhere near his best, who is he and what's the equivalent? Like what many goals does he kick?

If he kicks, if he kicks forty forty goals?

If he kicks, if he kicks forty forty goals?

Kisty he's pushed?

Kisty he's pushed?

He pushed that last year?

He pushed that last year?

Yeah, and do you take that forty? He takes forty if he's not your key for it as well, so they'd say he's your second or your third, you know, and it's not Charlie Dixon anymore, like who's kicking the goals? Yeah, who's got to kick the goals? But you know, maybe it's a chat for another day. But if it actually goes to plan and port Alais go, hey, we tricked you here, you didn't want him, and we'll take him. And he's at home and he's comfortable again a little bit like the Isaac Rankin conversation, like this does happen? I wonder how good he could actually be.

Yeah, and do you take that forty? He takes forty if he's not your key for it as well, so they'd say he's your second or your third, you know, and it's not Charlie Dixon anymore, like who's kicking the goals? Yeah, who's got to kick the goals? But you know, maybe it's a chat for another day. But if it actually goes to plan and port Alais go, hey, we tricked you here, you didn't want him, and we'll take him. And he's at home and he's comfortable again a little bit like the Isaac Rankin conversation, like this does happen? I wonder how good he could actually be.

What's your philosophy on these players? If they haven't put it together by this point, do you think that they're not going to put it together.

What's your philosophy on these players? If they haven't put it together by this point, do you think that they're not going to put it together.

I think there's a piece about over a period of time, you just are who you are, and potential has a timeline and it has a cutoff point. And maybe Damian Hardwick has experienced this before and he said, I'm not prepared to tolerate or will take the risk of potential. I need facts right now.

I think there's a piece about over a period of time, you just are who you are, and potential has a timeline and it has a cutoff point. And maybe Damian Hardwick has experienced this before and he said, I'm not prepared to tolerate or will take the risk of potential. I need facts right now.

Six years, that timeline for six years, that's part of it.

Six years, that timeline for six years, that's part of it.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

So it's see twenty four and there's the rare case and we'll always go, oh, but what about him? He changed his future and he's you know, being a fantastic player. They're rare, and I think we have to you know, find those ones rather than be glaringly obvious.

So it's see twenty four and there's the rare case and we'll always go, oh, but what about him? He changed his future and he's you know, being a fantastic player. They're rare, and I think we have to you know, find those ones rather than be glaringly obvious.

So there's a lot of potential in the twenty twenty four draft crop. So Kevin Sheen was at the WA State combine, of course, the AFL National Talent Ambassador, and he said twenty eighteen was super draft number two. The other year was back in two thousand and one, decent pig thirteen. Were you there are strong comparisons that this year's crop could be one of the top three drafts that we've had in the last twenty odd years. So it's a great time to go to market, so to speak, and get the new talent and stock up. Is what all the clubs are saying. If you've got a good draft hand this year. Now, off that discussion that we just had about potential, how much should you be investing in such a highly touted draft, but ultimately they're all unknown commodities.

So there's a lot of potential in the twenty twenty four draft crop. So Kevin Sheen was at the WA State combine, of course, the AFL National Talent Ambassador, and he said twenty eighteen was super draft number two. The other year was back in two thousand and one, decent pig thirteen. Were you there are strong comparisons that this year's crop could be one of the top three drafts that we've had in the last twenty odd years. So it's a great time to go to market, so to speak, and get the new talent and stock up. Is what all the clubs are saying. If you've got a good draft hand this year. Now, off that discussion that we just had about potential, how much should you be investing in such a highly touted draft, but ultimately they're all unknown commodities.

Well, I think the draft as a whole historically it isn't as sound as what we always think. And I did some rough numbers last year of the year before and I tried to assess what's a successful career? Was it one hundred games? All the strains like how do we measure success? And roughly and I'm going to say roughly, so I don't quote the specific number of the first round draft picks. You get about fifty percent of the go on to have some sort of career. And then we get caught up in this. Oh but Natt Fife was in the twenties. Oh yeah, but Sam Mitchell was in the thirties. I'm like, yeah, that's true. Dane Swan was in the I get it on the fifties, but they're the rare cases. So your best chance is to get in the top end because unlike American sports where they go through the college system and get draft at the age of twenty two, you see more of a body of work. There's a lot of guesswork, and we're guessing to the best of our abilities in regards to recruiting. But if you are trying to get to the draft off to everything you said, why wouldn't you load up on this one. Why wouldn't you push your chips in and say absolutely, we'll try get involved in later on later on. But the recruiters have been scared in these kids since they were fifteen, since they were thirteen. They know that this is the crop.

Well, I think the draft as a whole historically it isn't as sound as what we always think. And I did some rough numbers last year of the year before and I tried to assess what's a successful career? Was it one hundred games? All the strains like how do we measure success? And roughly and I'm going to say roughly, so I don't quote the specific number of the first round draft picks. You get about fifty percent of the go on to have some sort of career. And then we get caught up in this. Oh but Natt Fife was in the twenties. Oh yeah, but Sam Mitchell was in the thirties. I'm like, yeah, that's true. Dane Swan was in the I get it on the fifties, but they're the rare cases. So your best chance is to get in the top end because unlike American sports where they go through the college system and get draft at the age of twenty two, you see more of a body of work. There's a lot of guesswork, and we're guessing to the best of our abilities in regards to recruiting. But if you are trying to get to the draft off to everything you said, why wouldn't you load up on this one. Why wouldn't you push your chips in and say absolutely, we'll try get involved in later on later on. But the recruiters have been scared in these kids since they were fifteen, since they were thirteen. They know that this is the crop.

Well, if the pool's that good and that deep, then you're a better chance when you guess getting a good one. So probably why they're so excited by this prospect. The more picks you have, the better.

Well, if the pool's that good and that deep, then you're a better chance when you guess getting a good one. So probably why they're so excited by this prospect. The more picks you have, the better.

Does this apply for all eighteen clubs, so you've got the clubs that are in the premiership win though, take your Brisbane you Colin would like, do you put everything aside for right now? Because of how good a pool it is, or is there an exception because you're in that premiership, we know you still just take a part.

Does this apply for all eighteen clubs, so you've got the clubs that are in the premiership win though, take your Brisbane you Colin would like, do you put everything aside for right now? Because of how good a pool it is, or is there an exception because you're in that premiership, we know you still just take a part.

Now. I think everyone's got their own situation, like you think. If free Men will give up those picks for the couple of the Tigers boys, Freemal will go, thank you very much. We're in a pretty good position right now. In regards to the ron field, they've been okay. I think they underperformed a tiny bit, but then you can get a sound base for the next ten years as well. So I think every club has a specific purpose. But if you're just on the fringe and you've got a first round draft pick, it's actually worth more value this year, so you might be able to get something back in return to say, hey, we're pushing our chips in now. We don't want any more draft picks. We need a great player.

Now. I think everyone's got their own situation, like you think. If free Men will give up those picks for the couple of the Tigers boys, Freemal will go, thank you very much. We're in a pretty good position right now. In regards to the ron field, they've been okay. I think they underperformed a tiny bit, but then you can get a sound base for the next ten years as well. So I think every club has a specific purpose. But if you're just on the fringe and you've got a first round draft pick, it's actually worth more value this year, so you might be able to get something back in return to say, hey, we're pushing our chips in now. We don't want any more draft picks. We need a great player.

Doesn't need any more draft picks. Hence why they're again picked six for Dmbioli's quite steep, but they don't really need that pick as much as other classes.

Doesn't need any more draft picks. Hence why they're again picked six for Dmbioli's quite steep, but they don't really need that pick as much as other classes.

And I'll give you an example, and I know Jake string is going to possibly be the picks in the fifties, so it doesn't quite fit the bill. But if you're the Giants, do you want more draft picks or do you say, hey, we were up by eight goals against both the Grandfather and the grand following teams and we're sitting at home right now. We haven't slept for four weeks because we know that we should have beaten them. Absolutely, we'll give you something for Jake Stringer. Why wouldn't you. We're here to win flags. It doesn't matter if you go to the bottom for another ten years. And this is maybe coming from a bit of a Saints perspective. Just one police, it doesn't matter. Just give us one and then I'm happy to come dead last for another decade.

And I'll give you an example, and I know Jake string is going to possibly be the picks in the fifties, so it doesn't quite fit the bill. But if you're the Giants, do you want more draft picks or do you say, hey, we were up by eight goals against both the Grandfather and the grand following teams and we're sitting at home right now. We haven't slept for four weeks because we know that we should have beaten them. Absolutely, we'll give you something for Jake Stringer. Why wouldn't you. We're here to win flags. It doesn't matter if you go to the bottom for another ten years. And this is maybe coming from a bit of a Saints perspective. Just one police, it doesn't matter. Just give us one and then I'm happy to come dead last for another decade.

He's not the same as Jackale coaches, is he Jake Stringer? Because if people tell you they I believe them right. But he's had some pretty high highs Jake Stringer. Yeah, so I think.

He's not the same as Jackale coaches, is he Jake Stringer? Because if people tell you they I believe them right. But he's had some pretty high highs Jake Stringer. Yeah, so I think.

There's more of a body more, there's facts in there. I know he's a Premiership player, but he's been all Australian, all Australian quality for a long period of time. If you're getting Jake Stringer, you're also knowing what you get. There's going to be the odd week where he may not touch the thing. It might go for a month, but he might kick a goal from sixty in the dying moments to.

There's more of a body more, there's facts in there. I know he's a Premiership player, but he's been all Australian, all Australian quality for a long period of time. If you're getting Jake Stringer, you're also knowing what you get. There's going to be the odd week where he may not touch the thing. It might go for a month, but he might kick a goal from sixty in the dying moments to.

Get you over the line.

Get you over the line.

What are you prepared to accept?

What are you prepared to accept?

You mentioned the Tiger's treo that want to try and find clubs in Western Australia, So that's Shaye Bolton and Leam Baker and sorry, Dan Rioli obviously wants to get to the Gold Coast Suns. It feels like the Baker Eagles deal will still happen despite that curveball thrown in with Barrass, with Carlton and Hawthorne getting picked fourteen and Carlton getting picked four neen from the Hawks last week. Bolton at his best, is he worth pick ten and eighteen? That the Tigers are adam and they want pick ten and eleven?

You mentioned the Tiger's treo that want to try and find clubs in Western Australia, So that's Shaye Bolton and Leam Baker and sorry, Dan Rioli obviously wants to get to the Gold Coast Suns. It feels like the Baker Eagles deal will still happen despite that curveball thrown in with Barrass, with Carlton and Hawthorne getting picked fourteen and Carlton getting picked four neen from the Hawks last week. Bolton at his best, is he worth pick ten and eighteen? That the Tigers are adam and they want pick ten and eleven?

Yeah, I think he is. I love him and I'll put my hand up. I love the way he goes about his football. He is Dusty when Dusty wasn't there. He's a different version of Dusty. He doesn't have the raw power, but he's got the evasiveness and the agility. So if you think you're buying Dusty, you're not getting the exact same product. It's slightly different, but he's a match winner. He has moments, but I think he's more consistent than some of these other Jake Stringer sort of examples where you can hear him to Dusty, I love him and I think you've got to pay and if it's a little bit over and then you just got to.

Yeah, I think he is. I love him and I'll put my hand up. I love the way he goes about his football. He is Dusty when Dusty wasn't there. He's a different version of Dusty. He doesn't have the raw power, but he's got the evasiveness and the agility. So if you think you're buying Dusty, you're not getting the exact same product. It's slightly different, but he's a match winner. He has moments, but I think he's more consistent than some of these other Jake Stringer sort of examples where you can hear him to Dusty, I love him and I think you've got to pay and if it's a little bit over and then you just got to.

Cop it because you can. You can miss a few.

Cop it because you can. You can miss a few.

They can't.

They can't.

You can leave.

You can leave.

Few on the time though, and maybe this is the glass half full of me. He's having shots. Yeah, shots on goal. You know, if you want to go to the moneyball philosophy, shots on goal, got to get on base.

Few on the time though, and maybe this is the glass half full of me. He's having shots. Yeah, shots on goal. You know, if you want to go to the moneyball philosophy, shots on goal, got to get on base.

We'll ask you that question about Collingwood if they get to Houston, if Freeo get Shaye Bolton, I think for the.

We'll ask you that question about Collingwood if they get to Houston, if Freeo get Shaye Bolton, I think for the.

Next year, very much in the picture. I think they've probably underachieved the last couple years. Think we saw in twenty twenty two when they got that semi five, the potential that they have. They've been in that love for a couple of years. I really think, Yeah, the acquistion of a guy like Bolton will go a long way.

Next year, very much in the picture. I think they've probably underachieved the last couple years. Think we saw in twenty twenty two when they got that semi five, the potential that they have. They've been in that love for a couple of years. I really think, Yeah, the acquistion of a guy like Bolton will go a long way.

There's all Maxie Lorton always talks about. There's always a team that comes from the bottom ten into the top four, and I think the common consensus at the moment is that Freeman was the most likely team to do that. Next should be it should.

There's all Maxie Lorton always talks about. There's always a team that comes from the bottom ten into the top four, and I think the common consensus at the moment is that Freeman was the most likely team to do that. Next should be it should.

Be you look at their meats like you think, okay, what is a premiership team made up of? You got to have a sound midfield, so wrong Bray sure young off the top of my head. So you've got the nucleus inside, You've got a big bear in Darcy, You've got the Luke Jackson piece that can work with that sort of unusual dynamic and always to see how that plays. Yeah, I mean they should be working together, but there's a bit to play out there. And then you're adding some X factor up forward.

Be you look at their meats like you think, okay, what is a premiership team made up of? You got to have a sound midfield, so wrong Bray sure young off the top of my head. So you've got the nucleus inside, You've got a big bear in Darcy, You've got the Luke Jackson piece that can work with that sort of unusual dynamic and always to see how that plays. Yeah, I mean they should be working together, but there's a bit to play out there. And then you're adding some X factor up forward.

So I Bolton joins Tracy inside that forward fitsh true and then as well, and.

So I Bolton joins Tracy inside that forward fitsh true and then as well, and.

To say who should be the big jumper, it should be Freo, but Frero should have been somewhere around the mark.

To say who should be the big jumper, it should be Freo, but Frero should have been somewhere around the mark.

Anyway, Just one last one dal on the Bombers and the last five years Essendon has gone eleventh, eleventh, fifteenth, snuck into the eighth, snuck into the eighth and then finish thirteenth. I think fair to say Bombers fans are probably a little sick of mediocrity and finishing in the middle of the ladder. Today they traded away pick nine for a future first rounder, which will help the match a bit on Isaac CaCO, who can seriously play. They're gonna have a younger list hitting in the twenty twenty five, so Dyson Hepple retired, Jake Kelly retired, Nick Heiin d listed and Jake Stringer like her to go, and Jade Leverde and Dylan Shield. It kind of feels like they're not too fuss if they're not on their list.

Anyway, Just one last one dal on the Bombers and the last five years Essendon has gone eleventh, eleventh, fifteenth, snuck into the eighth, snuck into the eighth and then finish thirteenth. I think fair to say Bombers fans are probably a little sick of mediocrity and finishing in the middle of the ladder. Today they traded away pick nine for a future first rounder, which will help the match a bit on Isaac CaCO, who can seriously play. They're gonna have a younger list hitting in the twenty twenty five, so Dyson Hepple retired, Jake Kelly retired, Nick Heiin d listed and Jake Stringer like her to go, and Jade Leverde and Dylan Shield. It kind of feels like they're not too fuss if they're not on their list.

Okay, next year they are were.

Okay, next year they are were.

So Laverde is Leverde's twenty eight and I think has attracted interest from other clubs. Shield not as much, but I think they probably aren't. Ask us if Laverdees is not there, do you agree with the Dons, because when Brad Scott came in in the end of twenty twenty two it was kind of like maybe a premiership or top four is maybe in our grasp here on the cusp of it. But if they're going younger, it looks like at the moment, do you agree with it? With the essenon approach to problem, maybe take a step back to go forward here. Yeah, well it.

So Laverde is Leverde's twenty eight and I think has attracted interest from other clubs. Shield not as much, but I think they probably aren't. Ask us if Laverdees is not there, do you agree with the Dons, because when Brad Scott came in in the end of twenty twenty two it was kind of like maybe a premiership or top four is maybe in our grasp here on the cusp of it. But if they're going younger, it looks like at the moment, do you agree with it? With the essenon approach to problem, maybe take a step back to go forward here. Yeah, well it.

May not be a step back. It maybe finish exactly where they did this year, which is deceptively a step forward with a different looking team. Now, Bombers had an easier fixture, which we sort of started to work out at the start of the year when everything seemed like it was going really well and you dig a little bit deep and says it's good form and it's winning form, but is it going to stack up against the big boys? The answer was non. Eventually the season got a bit long on them and the fatigue sets in. When you have young bodies, it's not uncommon, but you adding this youngster through their NNGA. They got Caddio. It picked ten large year, so there can be a bit of both. You're gonna have a foot in each camp. You can get it done now in regards to the draft in age, but it doesn't mean that they're not capable of playing some solid football. So I would love to think that they are capable of playing football. So playing finals seventh eighth, yeah, that's okay. They won't win the final, we'll have that big conversation about where they're at. But they have a good nucleus of youngsters.

May not be a step back. It maybe finish exactly where they did this year, which is deceptively a step forward with a different looking team. Now, Bombers had an easier fixture, which we sort of started to work out at the start of the year when everything seemed like it was going really well and you dig a little bit deep and says it's good form and it's winning form, but is it going to stack up against the big boys? The answer was non. Eventually the season got a bit long on them and the fatigue sets in. When you have young bodies, it's not uncommon, but you adding this youngster through their NNGA. They got Caddio. It picked ten large year, so there can be a bit of both. You're gonna have a foot in each camp. You can get it done now in regards to the draft in age, but it doesn't mean that they're not capable of playing some solid football. So I would love to think that they are capable of playing football. So playing finals seventh eighth, yeah, that's okay. They won't win the final, we'll have that big conversation about where they're at. But they have a good nucleus of youngsters.

It's just hard when they've been doing this. It's been so just mediocrity for so long.

It's just hard when they've been doing this. It's been so just mediocrity for so long.

I get that, but you can't if they've got a sound plan. Now forget the last twenty years. Okay, if you have to start from scratches, better than keep on. Oh, we're just going to band aid it. We're just going to patch this over.

I get that, but you can't if they've got a sound plan. Now forget the last twenty years. Okay, if you have to start from scratches, better than keep on. Oh, we're just going to band aid it. We're just going to patch this over.

It's just hard.

It's just hard.

It be hard for them to go.

It be hard for them to go.

Let's forget the last twenty It would be hard for them after all this time.

Let's forget the last twenty It would be hard for them after all this time.

Then, okay, and I know that. I think we know this answer. What's the alternative? Yeah, do it again? Like I had Dylan shiel As winning a BROWNO, I thought he was that good. I thought the speed what catches and pat the brownie for it measurement? We want to but it catches Umpire's eyes like he's game breaking. But it just hasn't happened. So I don't hate those decisions. I thought it was the right thing at the time. It hasn't played out that way.

Then, okay, and I know that. I think we know this answer. What's the alternative? Yeah, do it again? Like I had Dylan shiel As winning a BROWNO, I thought he was that good. I thought the speed what catches and pat the brownie for it measurement? We want to but it catches Umpire's eyes like he's game breaking. But it just hasn't happened. So I don't hate those decisions. I thought it was the right thing at the time. It hasn't played out that way.

What was your best brown lea?

What was your best brown lea?

I was about to.

I was about to.

Say runner up?

Say runner up?

What year was Thatwy's Yeah it was sway about a million. It was a runaway.

What year was Thatwy's Yeah it was sway about a million. It was a runaway.

How about that when you were in the room. Yeah, I remember Angus bray Shaw wasn't in the room when he came. Third, remember that, of course it does.

How about that when you were in the room. Yeah, I remember Angus bray Shaw wasn't in the room when he came. Third, remember that, of course it does.

It does tend to happen every now and then.

It does tend to happen every now and then.

You remember the one in Remember I remember he came.

You remember the one in Remember I remember he came.

Remember a coping second though, haven't you weren't born? You were that good for such a long period of time.

Remember a coping second though, haven't you weren't born? You were that good for such a long period of time.

I'm just going to keep digging Dale. Thanks for joining us, appreciate We're going to come back after this and we're going to play a little bit of Fair or Fast and Now on.

I'm just going to keep digging Dale. Thanks for joining us, appreciate We're going to come back after this and we're going to play a little bit of Fair or Fast and Now on.

The Box Foody Podcast. Another strong edition of Australia's Favorite segment, Fair or Fast.

The Box Foody Podcast. Another strong edition of Australia's Favorite segment, Fair or Fast.

Yes, Australia's favorite segment, Fair or Fast, the utensil of Will Faulkner on debut, but we won't hand him.

Yes, Australia's favorite segment, Fair or Fast, the utensil of Will Faulkner on debut, but we won't hand him.

The fresh Yes, this is of course the AFL three sixty shit. We may as well put up the real overreaction graphic behind us, because it is the exact same segment, just with a different name. There.

The fresh Yes, this is of course the AFL three sixty shit. We may as well put up the real overreaction graphic behind us, because it is the exact same segment, just with a different name. There.

I'll have to order a mesh a little bit later on, but well I will work that out. Hey, Zeita, first to you Carlton's lack of urgency to keep Matt Oh, he's baffling Fair or Fast.

I'll have to order a mesh a little bit later on, but well I will work that out. Hey, Zeita, first to you Carlton's lack of urgency to keep Matt Oh, he's baffling Fair or Fast.

I'd say it's fair. I know they're putting faith in the likes of Mott Loobdo and maybe Fantasia as well, but I just think if someone's kicked thirty three goals in twenty three games, then there are non quantity. Do you really want to let them go out the door as easily as they seem to be doing.

I'd say it's fair. I know they're putting faith in the likes of Mott Loobdo and maybe Fantasia as well, but I just think if someone's kicked thirty three goals in twenty three games, then there are non quantity. Do you really want to let them go out the door as easily as they seem to be doing.

Because he was a contribute, consistent goal kicker for the Blues this year, and the fact that there might be prioritizing a player like a Ratzia Fandasia who they did, you know, bring in via a rival club a couple of years ago. But it does seem to have caught footy fans off guard that he doesn't seem to be a big priority for Carlton.

Because he was a contribute, consistent goal kicker for the Blues this year, and the fact that there might be prioritizing a player like a Ratzia Fandasia who they did, you know, bring in via a rival club a couple of years ago. But it does seem to have caught footy fans off guard that he doesn't seem to be a big priority for Carlton.

It's so odd. I think the way I see it is this wrong place, wrong time. I think if his contract, a couple of those guys will be named just before contract was out this year as well. I don't know if he would be the one that get pushed out the door. He's had two very very good years. I can't see as to why Carlton wouldn't just give him just a one year deal.

It's so odd. I think the way I see it is this wrong place, wrong time. I think if his contract, a couple of those guys will be named just before contract was out this year as well. I don't know if he would be the one that get pushed out the door. He's had two very very good years. I can't see as to why Carlton wouldn't just give him just a one year deal.

Yeah, I just it doesn't make much sense. To me, this move you know, yeah, you know what you're getting with him, So why not go for the known quantity over the ones who are still yet to be relatively unproven. Fantasia has proven himself at times, but he's so injury prone he hasn't really had too much of an impact in recent years. I just think it's a really it's a ballsy call by Carlton to think that they know what is going on there because he's a good player.

Yeah, I just it doesn't make much sense. To me, this move you know, yeah, you know what you're getting with him, So why not go for the known quantity over the ones who are still yet to be relatively unproven. Fantasia has proven himself at times, but he's so injury prone he hasn't really had too much of an impact in recent years. I just think it's a really it's a ballsy call by Carlton to think that they know what is going on there because he's a good player.

You're in the window as well, so this isn't the club that's rebuilding per se like they're in the window. I think, what you if you know what you're going to get, it's probably more important.

You're in the window as well, so this isn't the club that's rebuilding per se like they're in the window. I think, what you if you know what you're going to get, it's probably more important.

Well, we have this chat about Dan Houston. Why aren't they going harder for Dan Houston? They're just refusing to give up some of their picks to try and getting through the door when they should be in the window. They've got a two time Brown l medalist there at the People's House.

Well, we have this chat about Dan Houston. Why aren't they going harder for Dan Houston? They're just refusing to give up some of their picks to try and getting through the door when they should be in the window. They've got a two time Brown l medalist there at the People's House.

Well, it's reported late this afternoon the Carlton net who now have picked twelve and fourteen in the mix and looking at West Coast's pick three, which I think is on the table. Well, I think the Eagles are willing to slide back, but how far they slid I don't think tolve and fourteen.

Well, it's reported late this afternoon the Carlton net who now have picked twelve and fourteen in the mix and looking at West Coast's pick three, which I think is on the table. Well, I think the Eagles are willing to slide back, but how far they slid I don't think tolve and fourteen.

I was gonna say yeah, as someone who follows the draft incredibly closely, going back that many picks.

I was gonna say yeah, as someone who follows the draft incredibly closely, going back that many picks.

There's a difference.

There's a difference.

I know it's an even I know it's an even highly talented pool, but there's a difference between three and fourteen at twelve and in this year, in this year's draft, fork if Tom, if Tom Barrass is only Hawthorne bound Denver Granger, Barrass would be a great pick up for Carlton. Maybe he is a delisted free agent fair or fast.

I know it's an even I know it's an even highly talented pool, but there's a difference between three and fourteen at twelve and in this year, in this year's draft, fork if Tom, if Tom Barrass is only Hawthorne bound Denver Granger, Barrass would be a great pick up for Carlton. Maybe he is a delisted free agent fair or fast.

I think it's fair, But I'm going to downgrade a great pickup to a good pickup.

I think it's fair, But I'm going to downgrade a great pickup to a good pickup.

Oh okay, that's a good.

Oh okay, that's a good.

Yes, you can have good and then you can have a fair. I think it would be a bit of a stretch to say it's fast. I think like at the start of the year, when Hawthorne having all their injuries, he was meant to be an integral part of their back line before he himself got injured. So Hawthorne obviously rate him very very highly. I think if Carlton get him as a delisted free agent, it's a pretty good get for where everyone saw where he was twelve months ago, so I think it's definitely a fair.

Yes, you can have good and then you can have a fair. I think it would be a bit of a stretch to say it's fast. I think like at the start of the year, when Hawthorne having all their injuries, he was meant to be an integral part of their back line before he himself got injured. So Hawthorne obviously rate him very very highly. I think if Carlton get him as a delisted free agent, it's a pretty good get for where everyone saw where he was twelve months ago, so I think it's definitely a fair.

Yeah, he has got some interest from the Blue, so we'll see how that pans out. Saint Kilda has made a shrewd move to not pursue Ivanne Soldo fair or fast.

Yeah, he has got some interest from the Blue, so we'll see how that pans out. Saint Kilda has made a shrewd move to not pursue Ivanne Soldo fair or fast.

Well, I think when he was at the Young Liberals function that really went over the line and that was I did see that very bizarre. It's fast to pivot at a Young Liberals event, which was twenty eight is that Young Liberals? I'm nearly nearly twenty eight, so I'd like to think I'm still young.

Well, I think when he was at the Young Liberals function that really went over the line and that was I did see that very bizarre. It's fast to pivot at a Young Liberals event, which was twenty eight is that Young Liberals? I'm nearly nearly twenty eight, so I'd like to think I'm still young.

You are young?

You are young?

Yes, yes, well there the Fork is even younger. Yeah, he's a young folk shook I think. Yeah.

Yes, yes, well there the Fork is even younger. Yeah, he's a young folk shook I think. Yeah.

I think Saint Kilda has.

I think Saint Kilda has.

Made a shrewman. They don't want to go for another injury prone player who can potentially break down again. It's not like the Dan had every deal where you're paying exorbitant amount of money and it can really come back to buy you. But I just think ultimately they're not satisfied that he might be able to hold up to the riggers of an AFL season. And it's more perplexing as to where it leaves Ivan because it doesn't seem to really enjoy living in South Australia at the moment. There's been a bit of talk about why that might be or what the situation is. But going back to the club, wasn't that the BNF wasn't There's just again Christian pertracked in the tender BNF next year.

Made a shrewman. They don't want to go for another injury prone player who can potentially break down again. It's not like the Dan had every deal where you're paying exorbitant amount of money and it can really come back to buy you. But I just think ultimately they're not satisfied that he might be able to hold up to the riggers of an AFL season. And it's more perplexing as to where it leaves Ivan because it doesn't seem to really enjoy living in South Australia at the moment. There's been a bit of talk about why that might be or what the situation is. But going back to the club, wasn't that the BNF wasn't There's just again Christian pertracked in the tender BNF next year.

Different different maybe.

Different different maybe.

Slightly different caliber of player, but yeah, I think they're probably about a good good move.

Slightly different caliber of player, but yeah, I think they're probably about a good good move.

There from it you go, no, I was going to say a three year deal from Saint Hilda as well, was what I heard was tabled for Soldo, not one or two. If you're a little bit unsure.

There from it you go, no, I was going to say a three year deal from Saint Hilda as well, was what I heard was tabled for Soldo, not one or two. If you're a little bit unsure.

Well that's what Maybe they've second guests themselves going off.

Well that's what Maybe they've second guests themselves going off.

Do we actually do a lot off for three?

Do we actually do a lot off for three?

That's pretty yeah.

That's pretty yeah.

I feel like if Soldo wants to move this bad, I think you'd probably take one or two years.

I feel like if Soldo wants to move this bad, I think you'd probably take one or two years.

I don't.

I don't.

I would imagine it's probably not Soldo is the one that's tentative there that it seems like St Hilda have gotten cald interesting that it was three or nothing.

I would imagine it's probably not Soldo is the one that's tentative there that it seems like St Hilda have gotten cald interesting that it was three or nothing.

Wilbur The AFL world is ready for more ruthless, for more ruthless trade rules where clubs can move on players without their consent, fair or fat.

Wilbur The AFL world is ready for more ruthless, for more ruthless trade rules where clubs can move on players without their consent, fair or fat.

You have my first farce, right, So my theory with this, And I was speaking to my housemate about this the other day, so all the good conversations happened else each out with just ahead of the curve. So I think it's a very do it was yesterday, a very americanized conceent is I think this? So what I think with American sports when they get traded without their consent, they are on millions and millions and millions of dollars right now. I know it's not as comparative to the Australian market, but I think if you're going to trade a guy who's earning two hundred k four hundred k without his consent, I think it's very different to someone in American sport. We're getting traded for ten million dollars. Hey, mate, you don't have a say in this, but we're going to send each other side of the country and by the way.

You have my first farce, right, So my theory with this, And I was speaking to my housemate about this the other day, so all the good conversations happened else each out with just ahead of the curve. So I think it's a very do it was yesterday, a very americanized conceent is I think this? So what I think with American sports when they get traded without their consent, they are on millions and millions and millions of dollars right now. I know it's not as comparative to the Australian market, but I think if you're going to trade a guy who's earning two hundred k four hundred k without his consent, I think it's very different to someone in American sport. We're getting traded for ten million dollars. Hey, mate, you don't have a say in this, but we're going to send each other side of the country and by the way.

A check.

A check.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think it's very very different.

I think it's very very different.

True.

True.

I think when you're earning this little money comparative to world sport, I think you probably have consent a little bit higher up to change importance.

I think when you're earning this little money comparative to world sport, I think you probably have consent a little bit higher up to change importance.

When you're not on that. How that is?

When you're not on that. How that is?

That is that fair fast?

That is that fair fast?

I think your calling it fast is fair Zeta.

I think your calling it fast is fair Zeta.

A test home game at GMHBA Stadium for the Cats would be an outright joke. Fair or fast fast big because like they've spent.

A test home game at GMHBA Stadium for the Cats would be an outright joke. Fair or fast fast big because like they've spent.

Six hundred trillion dollars on that stadium. I think they're allowed to they came able to show it off. It's not the Doctor Evil when he made all that the crazy number demand, and that's basically what it is. They've spent that much money in that stadium. It's their home ground. Let them play at the.

Six hundred trillion dollars on that stadium. I think they're allowed to they came able to show it off. It's not the Doctor Evil when he made all that the crazy number demand, and that's basically what it is. They've spent that much money in that stadium. It's their home ground. Let them play at the.

Home So do you think they've got a capacity now to justify an extra forty there?

Home So do you think they've got a capacity now to justify an extra forty there?

Yeah, that's that's a capacity of justified order.

Yeah, that's that's a capacity of justified order.

Thought, Yeah, did they see that most weeks this year?

Thought, Yeah, did they see that most weeks this year?

Yes?

Yes?

Well, well there's you know, fish Giant. The Giants game I think was probably a little bit, a little bit short of the top of my head, but they do tend to attract a lot of the interstate teams, and interstate teams often talking about the hardest road trip and that the darkest road trip is often coming tox Because.

Well, well there's you know, fish Giant. The Giants game I think was probably a little bit, a little bit short of the top of my head, but they do tend to attract a lot of the interstate teams, and interstate teams often talking about the hardest road trip and that the darkest road trip is often coming tox Because.

I have about ten seats allocated to the entire club, which is in that one little pocket. But I think that they've spent that much money, or the government spent that much money on this stadium that they should be able to speaking of the young Libs, they should be able to make it work.

I have about ten seats allocated to the entire club, which is in that one little pocket. But I think that they've spent that much money, or the government spent that much money on this stadium that they should be able to speaking of the young Libs, they should be able to make it work.

Isn't it a labor government?

Isn't it a labor government?

No, well it's see, it's a potato potato.

No, well it's see, it's a potato potato.

Sure, Wilbert last one. AFL clubs don't need forty four players on a list anymore so the league sure part list sizes fair or fast.

Sure, Wilbert last one. AFL clubs don't need forty four players on a list anymore so the league sure part list sizes fair or fast.

I think within eighteen teen competition it's a fast. I don't know how much of an impact it has. When you're Browns Kasmania two three, I've said that wasn't bad. Yeah, I think there's a need for forty four players. I think when Brisbane had their big injury run Carlton Coleing, I think the depth does get tested. I know it doesn't happen to the majority of the teams in the competition. I think you obviously have to have the same lose size for everyone. I think I don't know thirteen fourteen clubs out of the eighteen, so yeah, we probably don't need forty four players in our list, but there are a select for you each year and it differs that do need more players, and I think for that reason forty four is probably a fan.

I think within eighteen teen competition it's a fast. I don't know how much of an impact it has. When you're Browns Kasmania two three, I've said that wasn't bad. Yeah, I think there's a need for forty four players. I think when Brisbane had their big injury run Carlton Coleing, I think the depth does get tested. I know it doesn't happen to the majority of the teams in the competition. I think you obviously have to have the same lose size for everyone. I think I don't know thirteen fourteen clubs out of the eighteen, so yeah, we probably don't need forty four players in our list, but there are a select for you each year and it differs that do need more players, and I think for that reason forty four is probably a fan.

Do you think there's too many players on a list at the moment, No, I tend to agree.

Do you think there's too many players on a list at the moment, No, I tend to agree.

I think you need it for the cases where the outlies where they do need those players. I think that's that's fair enough.

I think you need it for the cases where the outlies where they do need those players. I think that's that's fair enough.

What happens if you do have a you take that number down and say thirty eight, and then you run on out players? Is it a VFL top up like we saw in COVID Like, yeah, I'm not for sure. There's no answer.

What happens if you do have a you take that number down and say thirty eight, and then you run on out players? Is it a VFL top up like we saw in COVID Like, yeah, I'm not for sure. There's no answer.

We don't want to say that again where the coach is actually meeting the player on the day that Adam Simpson met the players. Yeah, for his football class.

We don't want to say that again where the coach is actually meeting the player on the day that Adam Simpson met the players. Yeah, for his football class.

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Stephan Zero famous. Now when West coastpe Freemantle play, they played for the Stephan Zero Cup because he technically seven. Hugh Dixon was an Yes, Dicko Shatty didn't get a call up. Actually for the podcast today, great debut from.

The Fork, appreciated, Please from the Fork.

The Fork, appreciated, Please from the Fork.

Great debut from Will and you did a great job too.

Great debut from Will and you did a great job too.

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You.

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