All eyes to Carlton, beyond the meltdown. On the brutal review, Michael Voss says, judge the Blues on their actions.

All eyes to Carlton, beyond the meltdown. On the brutal review, Michael Voss says, judge the Blues on their actions.

Sima and Hrs take us inside the cauldron of the coach under siege, the public and private trials, when the Wolves close.

Sima and Hrs take us inside the cauldron of the coach under siege, the public and private trials, when the Wolves close.

In, and the man who made the rascal part of the football lexicon returns to the desk. Bob Murphy is with us as the Bulldogs celebrate their centenary.

In, and the man who made the rascal part of the football lexicon returns to the desk. Bob Murphy is with us as the Bulldogs celebrate their centenary.

We talked about his step into it, embrace all of it in the room and pat it.

We talked about his step into it, embrace all of it in the room and pat it.

It's unedifying for a senior coach to do that. They're on the side of Cautia with the brain, take the man on. They played the best footy I've ever seen at the start of the season, and in the president left the couple older said, of course they do.

It's unedifying for a senior coach to do that. They're on the side of Cautia with the brain, take the man on. They played the best footy I've ever seen at the start of the season, and in the president left the couple older said, of course they do.

Is the stuff that legends are made of. What is holding the ball?

Is the stuff that legends are made of. What is holding the ball?

I don't think I could answer it clearly right now that I could do.

I don't think I could answer it clearly right now that I could do.

Something wrong, you know, And I need to go and the boards.

Something wrong, you know, And I need to go and the boards.

Actually the fans lover and with no fans, no through sixty year old.

Actually the fans lover and with no fans, no through sixty year old.

The fans love it, but they've got to have a strong constitution. Gas seven days to work through the self flagellation to work through the seven stages of grief and then get back into the terraces tomorrow night and believe.

The fans love it, but they've got to have a strong constitution. Gas seven days to work through the self flagellation to work through the seven stages of grief and then get back into the terraces tomorrow night and believe.

Again early tests for the Carlton households out there for the young fellas and the young kids.

Again early tests for the Carlton households out there for the young fellas and the young kids.

Who has cart and supporters.

Who has cart and supporters.

The mum and the dad have dragged him into the family and now they're saying, you want me to go and watch that again, you'd be joking. But double up and a late night sleep in the next day for school.

The mum and the dad have dragged him into the family and now they're saying, you want me to go and watch that again, you'd be joking. But double up and a late night sleep in the next day for school.

So if the Blues can't get the job.

So if the Blues can't get the job.

I don't wund the imagery of the tropical storm that's due to hit the mcg about were they're coming.

I don't wund the imagery of the tropical storm that's due to hit the mcg about were they're coming.

So it's testing on all fronts and we'll get into it at the moment. It's going to be good. It's good for them that's come around quick. All right.

So it's testing on all fronts and we'll get into it at the moment. It's going to be good. It's good for them that's come around quick. All right.

Here's all we've got lined up this Wednesday night's footy from all angles, Horse and Simo together the fresh eyes out of the coach's box on a number of scenarios at bubble Away right now. Bob Murphy back at the desk and we've got the teams for the Blues and the Hawks to begin the rounds and then immediately following three sixty First Crack Previews, Ben Dixon hosts David King and Lee Montagna as they tell you what to look for in round two our d days for Ossie Broadband, who's at an early d Day four.

Here's all we've got lined up this Wednesday night's footy from all angles, Horse and Simo together the fresh eyes out of the coach's box on a number of scenarios at bubble Away right now. Bob Murphy back at the desk and we've got the teams for the Blues and the Hawks to begin the rounds and then immediately following three sixty First Crack Previews, Ben Dixon hosts David King and Lee Montagna as they tell you what to look for in round two our d days for Ossie Broadband, who's at an early d Day four.

I'm going over to Perth and you might think I'm going to say freemantl I'm saying in Sydney, I think there's a lot of focus on the Freemantle dockers right now, but the Swan's have got this game and then a buye. I don't want to go to the buyer zeroon three. This is the footy side of thirteen and one last year at one stage, So big day for Dan Cox's Big Day three side, traveling over against the side that are equally as desperate. I think it's really important they get one on the board. It can only be one winner, so there's going to be a story out of that.

I'm going over to Perth and you might think I'm going to say freemantl I'm saying in Sydney, I think there's a lot of focus on the Freemantle dockers right now, but the Swan's have got this game and then a buye. I don't want to go to the buyer zeroon three. This is the footy side of thirteen and one last year at one stage, So big day for Dan Cox's Big Day three side, traveling over against the side that are equally as desperate. I think it's really important they get one on the board. It can only be one winner, so there's going to be a story out of that.

They're playing all right where they line up with Brisbane from last year.

They're playing all right where they line up with Brisbane from last year.

I played two big sides that were humming along at the moment, or we suspect they're going to be there deep into September and they've got a Freemantle side who should be as embarrassed as any team out of the weekend, and that's saying something over there. And Chad Warner's return to Perth, that's the other thing. Play well, win and get him back quickly.

I played two big sides that were humming along at the moment, or we suspect they're going to be there deep into September and they've got a Freemantle side who should be as embarrassed as any team out of the weekend, and that's saying something over there. And Chad Warner's return to Perth, that's the other thing. Play well, win and get him back quickly.

Don't let him have any stray meetings.

Don't let him have any stray meetings.

Where's your mind taking.

Where's your mind taking.

I'm going to go with Essendon. There was a lot in their profile last week that had them looking like winners, but they never really looked like they were going to steal it against the Hawks, so there are a couple of obvious deficiencies still in their game. They didn't defend Hawthorne's ball movement particularly well and they were rusty with the way that they moved the ball around the field, so can they sharpen that up From the first up performance, their contested work was excellent and Jike Cardwell led the way there, so there there was a lot to like about them. They're playing a team who finished four places below them last year. If the Crows are coming with a bullet, you don't want to get swept past, particularly on your own home ground at the MCG.

I'm going to go with Essendon. There was a lot in their profile last week that had them looking like winners, but they never really looked like they were going to steal it against the Hawks, so there are a couple of obvious deficiencies still in their game. They didn't defend Hawthorne's ball movement particularly well and they were rusty with the way that they moved the ball around the field, so can they sharpen that up From the first up performance, their contested work was excellent and Jike Cardwell led the way there, so there there was a lot to like about them. They're playing a team who finished four places below them last year. If the Crows are coming with a bullet, you don't want to get swept past, particularly on your own home ground at the MCG.

Now you suspect both of them might be fighting for similar spots too at the end of the year, so it becomes important I'm doing this game. I'm really looking forward to having a look at Essendon and also just to see how far had laid have come in six months.

Now you suspect both of them might be fighting for similar spots too at the end of the year, so it becomes important I'm doing this game. I'm really looking forward to having a look at Essendon and also just to see how far had laid have come in six months.

Yeah, so they've got a couple to cover with. Langford and Ridley are bad out, so Brad Scott no today, there's no direct replacements for them. But that's okay, just get on with it.

Yeah, so they've got a couple to cover with. Langford and Ridley are bad out, so Brad Scott no today, there's no direct replacements for them. But that's okay, just get on with it.

We've all got challenges.

We've all got challenges.

Indeed we do, all right, let's get into it. Top of the agenda is what next for the Blues. Back to the scene of the disaster. They'll head tomorrow night the MCG on a Thursday night against the better credentialed opponents, but there is amends to be made.

Indeed we do, all right, let's get into it. Top of the agenda is what next for the Blues. Back to the scene of the disaster. They'll head tomorrow night the MCG on a Thursday night against the better credentialed opponents, but there is amends to be made.

I'm gonna be honest, I'm genuinely stunned.

I'm gonna be honest, I'm genuinely stunned.

I've never seen a team panic and as fluster as Carton worked from that.

I've never seen a team panic and as fluster as Carton worked from that.

But he was one of the worst performances I've seen from that scene.

But he was one of the worst performances I've seen from that scene.

That's got enough experience out there. They've got some soul searching to do the Blues. This loss could haunt them, haunt them.

That's got enough experience out there. They've got some soul searching to do the Blues. This loss could haunt them, haunt them.

They looked like they were fearful in the end.

They looked like they were fearful in the end.

In the end, all you can do is make this bigger than what actually really is. But also finding that balance, it also can't be ignowed, so we let ourselves down on the night. So it's almost like it doesn't matter what I say here.

In the end, all you can do is make this bigger than what actually really is. But also finding that balance, it also can't be ignowed, so we let ourselves down on the night. So it's almost like it doesn't matter what I say here.

Today, it's what we do next.

Today, it's what we do next.

How do we turn up tomorrow night, How do we bring the pressure we need to be able to give ourselves the chance to be able to perform well? And then how do we against a really good opposition, play us more often and take our moments when we get them, when we get them, when.

How do we turn up tomorrow night, How do we bring the pressure we need to be able to give ourselves the chance to be able to perform well? And then how do we against a really good opposition, play us more often and take our moments when we get them, when we get them, when.

We sack the coach, sack everyone.

We sack the coach, sack everyone.

They've done the VFL side, we lost, his bus has got to go.

They've done the VFL side, we lost, his bus has got to go.

This is a serious waste of talent.

This is a serious waste of talent.

But I'll just reinforced that really, at the end of the day, doesn't matter what I say here today. It's going to be about how we turn up tomorrow and we get it done. We get it done.

But I'll just reinforced that really, at the end of the day, doesn't matter what I say here today. It's going to be about how we turn up tomorrow and we get it done. We get it done.

When the message I suspect behind closed doors very much echoes publicly. Thursday night footy right here on Fox you'll see Carlton and Hawthorne, Sarah Jones to lead the team. Now on a team's perspective, sort of wonder what would Carlton do well, it's a bit of gun fix your own mess. Charlie Kurno comes back, so he'd have the untimely knee surgery in the preseason lates and Francis Evans loses his place, while for the Hawks there are two angels, Sam Frost after a couple of weeks as the sub has been omitted, Jack Scrimshaw is both injured and suspended, Jack who's had the hip injury, is ready to go, and Jack Gunston gets his first look at the season.

When the message I suspect behind closed doors very much echoes publicly. Thursday night footy right here on Fox you'll see Carlton and Hawthorne, Sarah Jones to lead the team. Now on a team's perspective, sort of wonder what would Carlton do well, it's a bit of gun fix your own mess. Charlie Kurno comes back, so he'd have the untimely knee surgery in the preseason lates and Francis Evans loses his place, while for the Hawks there are two angels, Sam Frost after a couple of weeks as the sub has been omitted, Jack Scrimshaw is both injured and suspended, Jack who's had the hip injury, is ready to go, and Jack Gunston gets his first look at the season.

Yeah, so the Charlie you knows the massive in of course, so that automatically makes the better. I love what Michael was said then, and I suspect that there's all sorts of ways you can go about this.

Yeah, so the Charlie you knows the massive in of course, so that automatically makes the better. I love what Michael was said then, and I suspect that there's all sorts of ways you can go about this.

And we've all been there as players.

And we've all been there as players.

We've all had that horrible performance where you go, okay, is that us? Or give me a chance to go and to do myself, which is why Thursday comes around beautifully for them.

We've all had that horrible performance where you go, okay, is that us? Or give me a chance to go and to do myself, which is why Thursday comes around beautifully for them.

But then he's fighting.

But then he's fighting.

This battle where he goes, let's not make it bigger.

This battle where he goes, let's not make it bigger.

Than it is.

Than it is.

So for everyone else, for the Carlton fans, it's enormous. You know, we all looked at it and said how pathetic the performance was. But for him, he's looking at a twenty four week season, so it's big. Make no mistake, it is big, and we want a response, but let's not let's not go way way over the top. So I would imagine from a coaching point of view, it's a real challenge. The simple, really simplistic thing is for these players, they want to get out and get.

So for everyone else, for the Carlton fans, it's enormous. You know, we all looked at it and said how pathetic the performance was. But for him, he's looking at a twenty four week season, so it's big. Make no mistake, it is big, and we want a response, but let's not let's not go way way over the top. So I would imagine from a coaching point of view, it's a real challenge. The simple, really simplistic thing is for these players, they want to get out and get.

Hit a body get hit.

Hit a body get hit.

And eight players laid one tackle or less in that game against Richmond.

And eight players laid one tackle or less in that game against Richmond.

Eight.

Eight.

So three didn't lay a tackle at all, Haines and Weedering and Camp.

So three didn't lay a tackle at all, Haines and Weedering and Camp.

And then there was five and see, so that's a simple one.

And then there was five and see, so that's a simple one.

That's the easiest one for you when you get into it, into a contest early and you haven't got the ball in your hand, lay the tackle. But you know they're coming up against the side who are in good nick. Not too many problems for Hawthorne. The clearance thing they're going to try and map out. That was the one area they got cleaned up a bit on.

That's the easiest one for you when you get into it, into a contest early and you haven't got the ball in your hand, lay the tackle. But you know they're coming up against the side who are in good nick. Not too many problems for Hawthorne. The clearance thing they're going to try and map out. That was the one area they got cleaned up a bit on.

But I think we'll learn a lot.

But I think we'll learn a lot.

Late last season on a Sunday, Hawthorne made a mess of Carlton. It was probably their worst performance of the year. It was a seventy four point result. I just think so the question that sits over Carlton separate to the it's only round one. Is they are just starting to be viewed with a degree of suspicion and your question is is that us? Well, they've now won two of ten if you take a longer range of it. So those internal doubts, as Michael Voss spoke of, the errors got hold of us. The small mistakes ended up weighing us down. So can they shake that off and restore some of the footy that had them sitting in the top two or are they in fact this team which is now revealing itself, which would be a bit shuddering if that was the.

Late last season on a Sunday, Hawthorne made a mess of Carlton. It was probably their worst performance of the year. It was a seventy four point result. I just think so the question that sits over Carlton separate to the it's only round one. Is they are just starting to be viewed with a degree of suspicion and your question is is that us? Well, they've now won two of ten if you take a longer range of it. So those internal doubts, as Michael Voss spoke of, the errors got hold of us. The small mistakes ended up weighing us down. So can they shake that off and restore some of the footy that had them sitting in the top two or are they in fact this team which is now revealing itself, which would be a bit shuddering if that was the.

Case, it would be and then they have real course for concern. And their last two performances have been apathetic. To be honest, four times last year they lost back to back games. I think that's another message in amongst this is that and one of them was the longest runabouts and when they lost consecutive games, but four times it was back to back. Now Hawthorn lost their first five last week last year and then only I don't think lost the back to back game again. So I think that's really important in terms of this not letting a season get away from you. But yeah, when you look at it in the light that you just did.

Case, it would be and then they have real course for concern. And their last two performances have been apathetic. To be honest, four times last year they lost back to back games. I think that's another message in amongst this is that and one of them was the longest runabouts and when they lost consecutive games, but four times it was back to back. Now Hawthorn lost their first five last week last year and then only I don't think lost the back to back game again. So I think that's really important in terms of this not letting a season get away from you. But yeah, when you look at it in the light that you just did.

This is what I was talking about earlier.

This is what I was talking about earlier.

This is how Michael Vossa saying, let's not make it bigger than what it is or weekend, we can make it really big on the basis of what you've just told us, on the basis of their last two performances, whereas he's trying to get them to go, hey, let's.

This is how Michael Vossa saying, let's not make it bigger than what it is or weekend, we can make it really big on the basis of what you've just told us, on the basis of their last two performances, whereas he's trying to get them to go, hey, let's.

Play what's in front of us.

Play what's in front of us.

What's in front of us is Hawthorne and the ball bouncers on Thursday night.

What's in front of us is Hawthorne and the ball bouncers on Thursday night.

So restore some faith both for themselves and for the outside.

So restore some faith both for themselves and for the outside.

And when you, as I said earlier, every single player has had these games where you've just lost the unlosable and it's embarrassing.

And when you, as I said earlier, every single player has had these games where you've just lost the unlosable and it's embarrassing.

It was embarrassing.

It was embarrassing.

But the week, the week just drags and drags and drags until you can get out and rectify it. And the beauty of that is that every single player, bar won on the selection front, gets a chance to go out there and.

But the week, the week just drags and drags and drags until you can get out and rectify it. And the beauty of that is that every single player, bar won on the selection front, gets a chance to go out there and.

Make right what was wrong. And that's a great thing about footy. You do or you don't.

Make right what was wrong. And that's a great thing about footy. You do or you don't.

Yes, we'll be back next Monday night talking about whether they haven't they have. Do you believe in them?

Yes, we'll be back next Monday night talking about whether they haven't they have. Do you believe in them?

Yeah? Yep, No, I do I do.

Yeah? Yep, No, I do I do.

I don't think you can have a spine that this football club's got and not be and just get pushed aside again. So we also believe in Hawthorne. So it's a bar, is a high bar, but sometimes want that. You don't want to be going into another game against perhaps someone's not quite there, so they know it, they'll know exactly where they're at.

I don't think you can have a spine that this football club's got and not be and just get pushed aside again. So we also believe in Hawthorne. So it's a bar, is a high bar, but sometimes want that. You don't want to be going into another game against perhaps someone's not quite there, so they know it, they'll know exactly where they're at.

Yeah, And from that perspective, it's not just about the winning and the losing. Play with credibility, Play with substance, Play with something that is dependable, repeatable and will get your results throughout the year. Whatever it is that they've been working on throughout their pre season to improve, and they have ambitions to finish in the top four, knowing that they do that late last year. Let us see that and if it's against a fallow top four contender, then so be it. We should get a rip roaring game.

Yeah, And from that perspective, it's not just about the winning and the losing. Play with credibility, Play with substance, Play with something that is dependable, repeatable and will get your results throughout the year. Whatever it is that they've been working on throughout their pre season to improve, and they have ambitions to finish in the top four, knowing that they do that late last year. Let us see that and if it's against a fallow top four contender, then so be it. We should get a rip roaring game.

No, I suspect that's what he's talking about when he says that's not bigger than what it is. The win would be fantastic, but there's a whole lot of other stuff that goes into this which they'll be able to either tick off or go far of the brows and say we've got to have a lot more work to do, but it'll be a beauty. Then there's some weather, so you might you have to get your hands dirty.

No, I suspect that's what he's talking about when he says that's not bigger than what it is. The win would be fantastic, but there's a whole lot of other stuff that goes into this which they'll be able to either tick off or go far of the brows and say we've got to have a lot more work to do, but it'll be a beauty. Then there's some weather, so you might you have to get your hands dirty.

Yeah, yeah, if it becomes base and show us your attitude exactly. That's tomorrow night right here on Fox Footing. It's a big week for the Western Bulldogs. We'll revel in the celebrations around the centenary as our show unfolds, and we'll be there on Friday night for it. Our cameras were out at Wittenoval today as the main session was taking place and Jamara jugile Hagen was amongst his teammates training fully so the reported absences of recent times for the moment over. But it's really clear that this is not a short term proposition with their staff forward.

Yeah, yeah, if it becomes base and show us your attitude exactly. That's tomorrow night right here on Fox Footing. It's a big week for the Western Bulldogs. We'll revel in the celebrations around the centenary as our show unfolds, and we'll be there on Friday night for it. Our cameras were out at Wittenoval today as the main session was taking place and Jamara jugile Hagen was amongst his teammates training fully so the reported absences of recent times for the moment over. But it's really clear that this is not a short term proposition with their staff forward.

There is still no timeline and that's with Jamar's best interest at heart, you know. And you know, like I said to the support aspects number one, the football aspect is still you know, we're not really even discussing a timeline.

There is still no timeline and that's with Jamar's best interest at heart, you know. And you know, like I said to the support aspects number one, the football aspect is still you know, we're not really even discussing a timeline.

Do you think he'll play this season, Luke, I.

Do you think he'll play this season, Luke, I.

Can't answer that definitively cured.

Can't answer that definitively cured.

We're hoping, but yeah, like the some of the other answers.

We're hoping, but yeah, like the some of the other answers.

Time will tell ootly.

Time will tell ootly.

Not sure what his time one looks like or anything, but yeah, it's good to have him out of training, bring his energy, smile and yeah, all the boys just wrapping our arms around him and getting around him when we can.

Not sure what his time one looks like or anything, but yeah, it's good to have him out of training, bring his energy, smile and yeah, all the boys just wrapping our arms around him and getting around him when we can.

The daily documentation of whether he's there or not the bulldogs are sort of condition is that's not the points. It's a much bigger frame here.

The daily documentation of whether he's there or not the bulldogs are sort of condition is that's not the points. It's a much bigger frame here.

The easiest part of all of this is turning up the tray.

The easiest part of all of this is turning up the tray.

It was great to see and he's running around. He looked fit and all those sorts of things. But on the basis of what the captain and the coach have told us in the past week, this is the simple part. So getting out there and having a kick is great and it's promising. But when Luke Beveridge tells you the night before, two nights ago that we can't guarantee you whether we even play this year, then this is.

It was great to see and he's running around. He looked fit and all those sorts of things. But on the basis of what the captain and the coach have told us in the past week, this is the simple part. So getting out there and having a kick is great and it's promising. But when Luke Beveridge tells you the night before, two nights ago that we can't guarantee you whether we even play this year, then this is.

The tiniest of steps.

The tiniest of steps.

Important to have him out there, important for his state of mind, I would imagine to be amongst his mates. But do it next, do it the next day, and the next day and the next day, and then you start to win respect and credibility back amongst your peers, because right now the players would be happy to have him back, but they also know where he's come from and with the challenges and don't need to see.

Important to have him out there, important for his state of mind, I would imagine to be amongst his mates. But do it next, do it the next day, and the next day and the next day, and then you start to win respect and credibility back amongst your peers, because right now the players would be happy to have him back, but they also know where he's come from and with the challenges and don't need to see.

More of it.

More of it.

Yeah, not the easiest scenario to navigate. There's my long period of time for them, and then you've got the You know, it's inevitable that it gets documented along the way. So short term now and as it stretches, all does it mean for him this year? What does it mean for his future which will come into focus?

Yeah, not the easiest scenario to navigate. There's my long period of time for them, and then you've got the You know, it's inevitable that it gets documented along the way. So short term now and as it stretches, all does it mean for him this year? What does it mean for his future which will come into focus?

Yes?

Yes?

Yes, why don't we take out We'll give ourselves a moment, shall we and bring our coaches in straight out of the coaches, both Simo and Horse, Adam Simpson and John Longmire, who have lived all of these scenarios in one way or another, for better and for worse. We'll pick their brains in amaments.

Yes, why don't we take out We'll give ourselves a moment, shall we and bring our coaches in straight out of the coaches, both Simo and Horse, Adam Simpson and John Longmire, who have lived all of these scenarios in one way or another, for better and for worse. We'll pick their brains in amaments.

The cold inca.

The cold inca.

Yeah, come in inr you blage can eat the ball out run. I want it all because

Yeah, come in inr you blage can eat the ball out run. I want it all because