“Civil disobedience all through history has had a big impact. If it's non-violent but determined, it has a big impact and it has changed things. People say, how can you be against the law? I say, if the law is not right, of course you have to denounce it. That was the case for slavery. It was the case when women didn't have the right to vote. It was the case in South Africa with apartheid.”

It’s not every day you get to tune in to a conversation between a member of the Belgian royal family and a 22-year-old indigenous reindeer herder from Sweden! In this episode, Princess Esméralda of Belgium and Saami activist Martina Fjällberg discuss the human costs of climate change, from language and culture to mental health; indigenous rights in conservation; and Princess Esméralda’s eye-opening experience of being arrested for her environmental activism.  

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&ldquo;Civil disobedience all through history has had a big impact. If it's non-violent but determined, it has a big impact and it has changed things. People say, how can you be against the law? I say, if the law is not right, of course you have to denounce it. That was the case for slavery. It was the case when women didn't have the right to vote. It was the case in South Africa with apartheid.&rdquo;
It&rsquo;s not every day you get to tune in to a conversation between a member of the Belgian royal family and a 22-year-old indigenous reindeer herder from Sweden! In this episode, Princess Esm&eacute;ralda of Belgium and Saami activist Martina Fj&auml;llberg discuss the human costs of climate change, from language and culture to mental health; indigenous rights in conservation; and Princess Esm&eacute;ralda&rsquo;s eye-opening experience of being arrested for her environmental activism.&nbsp;&nbsp;
To access the transcript of the show or find out more, go to <a href="https://lp.panda.org/forces-of-nature-podcast/episode3%20%0b%0b">https://lp.panda.org/forces-of-nature-podcast/episode3 </a>Follow WWF on Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/WWF">https://twitter.com/WWF</a> or Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/wwf/">https://www.instagram.com/wwf/</a>
Join the conversation using #ForcesofNature If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a review! Follow Princess Esm&eacute;ralda here: <a href="https://twitter.com/esmeraldadereth">https://twitter.com/esmeraldadereth</a>
Check out Esm&eacute;ralda&rsquo;s new book Quel monde pour demain? <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Quel-monde-pour-demain-g%C3%A9n%C3%A9rations-ebook/dp/B0937JY113">here</a> Follow Martina here: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/martinafjallberg/">https://www.instagram.com/martinafjallberg/</a>&nbsp;
Check out Martina&rsquo;s Saami youth organisation Saminuorra here: <a href="https://www.saminuorra.org/">https://www.saminuorra.org/</a>&nbsp;

What have the world’s best-known environmentalists learned over the past 60 years? What are their biggest regrets? And what is the next generation of activists doing to tackle the threats facing our planet? 

As WWF turns 60, the world’s largest conservation organisation is hosting a series of candid conversations between some of the biggest names in the environmental movement.

Through these conservation conversations, we’ll hear how action to save our planet has changed over six decades, what the next generation can learn from legendary trailblazers, and vice versa; and whether together, we can achieve more in the next ten years than we have in the last 60.

Make sure you subscribe so that you never miss an episode and join the conversation on social media using #ForcesofNature.

Together, we can all be forces of nature.

Find out more at panda.org/forcesofnature 

What have the world&rsquo;s best-known environmentalists learned over the past 60 years? What are their biggest regrets? And what is the next generation of activists doing to tackle the threats facing our planet? As WWF turns 60, the world&rsquo;s largest conservation organisation is hosting a series of candid conversations between some of the biggest names in the environmental movement. Through these conservation conversations, we&rsquo;ll hear how action to save our planet has changed over six decades, what the next generation can learn from legendary trailblazers, and vice versa; and whether together, we can achieve more in the next ten years than we have in the last 60. Make sure you subscribe so that you never miss an episode and join the conversation on social media using #ForcesofNature. Together, we can all be forces of nature. Find out more at&nbsp;<a href="http://panda.org/forcesofnature">panda.org/forcesofnature</a>&nbsp;

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