The Morrison government has said it will increase investment in skills and training if the states and territories sign up to an overhaul of the Vocational Education and Training sector. ACTU President Michele O'Neil, Correna Haythorpe, federal president of the AEU and Alison Pennington, senior economist at the Centre for Future Work at the Australia Institute on why the TAFE system has been in turmoil for some time, the role it plays in the economy and how we can fix it. Part of the Australia Institute's Economics of a Pandemic webinar series.

The Australia Institute // @theAUSInstitute

Host: Ebony Bennett, deputy director at the Australia Institute // @ebony_bennett

Alison Pennington // @ak_pennington

Michele O’Neil // @MicheleONeilAU

Correna Haythorpe // @CHaythorpeAEU

Producer: Jennifer Macey, with help from Lucy Luo and Grace Crivallero

Theme music: Pulse and Thrum