It's no secret the Australia-China relationship has hit a rocky path recently. How did we get in this mess? How do we get out of it? And how does the Australian public perceive the threat of China? Today we discuss the latest research on public attitudes to China, comparing them to public attitudes in Taiwan.

The Australia Institute // @theausinstitute

Host: Ebony Bennett, Deputy Director at the Australia Institute // @ebony_bennett

Allan Behm, International & Security Affairs program director // @mirandaprorsus

Melissa Conley Tyler, Research Associate, University of Melbourne Asia Institute // @MConleytyler

Producer: Jennifer Macey // @jennifermacey

Theme Music: Pulse and Thrum; additional music by Blue Dot Sessions