This episode we bring you a conversation with energy expert Saul Griffith about his new book “The Big Switch” which looks at energy flows across the Australian economy and provides a blueprint for how Australia can decarbonize our society, improve our health AND save households thousands of dollars each year,

LANGUAGE WARNING: a guest drops the F-bomb once in this recording

This was recorded live as part of the Australia Institute's webinar series, on Thursday the 24th of February 2022 and things may have changed since recording.

Host: Ebony Bennett, Deputy Director at the Australia Institute // @ebony_bennett

Saul Griffith, founder Rewiring Australia, author of The Big Switch // @GriffithSaul

Dan Cass, energy policy and regulatory lead, The Australia Institute // @danjcass

The Australia Institute // @theausinstitute

Producer: Jennifer Macey // @jennifermacey

Theme Music: Pulse and Thrum; additional music by Blue Dot Sessions