Featuring Greens Leader Adam Bandt in conversation with chief economist Richard Denniss about what a Green New Deal means and how it would work. The audio was recorded live on May 27 2020 as part of the Australia Institute's 'Economics of a Pandemic' webinar series.

The government has been talking as if it understood Keynesian economics, but its reaction to the $60 billion JobKeeper black hole shows they clearly do not think or act like Keynesians. Richard Denniss unpacks the spectacular failure of policy and accountability, as well as explaining what Keynesians economics actually means.

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Host: Ebony Bennett, deputy director of the Australia Institute // @ebony_bennett

Adam Bandt, Greens Leader // @AdamBandt

Richard Denniss, chief economist of the Australia Institute // @RDNS_TAI

Producer: Jennifer Macey.

Theme music is by Jonathan McFeat from Pulse and Thrum