Good evening and welcome to Focal Point here on Business Radio. Radio 1190 7 a.m. in Adelaide, online at VA radio, VA Radio Digital in Adelaide and Darwin through the Community Radio Plus app. Look for Vision Australia, Radio Adelaide. Your favourite podcast or streaming service will also find us. Peter Greco on behalf of Philip Vanderbilt and a big curio to Wendy McDougall listening in say fabulous to be here. This program coming to you from Garner Land and if you're around the Garner Lands, I hope you're keeping cool and maybe have got a cold drink with you. Coming up very, very shortly, we'll catch up with Amanda Hill, who is looking to add some purpose and passion to your life. So if you're a particular professional person, stay listening. Amanda's got a great offer for you. Then catch up with Rebecca Young from Access to Arts. The fringe. The festival all about to get underway. What's successful? What's sort of described? Very soon we'll find out from Rebecca. Then we will catch up with Maureen O'Reilly from the Vision Australia library. Lots of good things happening there. A chance for you to get involved with that as well. Doesn't matter where you live, you can still get involved. And Andrew Flatters will join us from here. And where the Asia conference has just been on the Assistive Technology Industry Association, their big conference in Orlando. Andrew was there. He'll give us his impressions. If you're listening through 1190 7 a.m. in Adelaide and 8:00 for your listening pleasure. Lizzie and Sam are here with studio one. In fact, blow me down. They're here right now to tell me what is on studio one tonight.

Good evening and welcome to Focal Point here on Business Radio. Radio 1190 7 a.m. in Adelaide, online at VA radio, VA Radio Digital in Adelaide and Darwin through the Community Radio Plus app. Look for Vision Australia, Radio Adelaide. Your favourite podcast or streaming service will also find us. Peter Greco on behalf of Philip Vanderbilt and a big curio to Wendy McDougall listening in say fabulous to be here. This program coming to you from Garner Land and if you're around the Garner Lands, I hope you're keeping cool and maybe have got a cold drink with you. Coming up very, very shortly, we'll catch up with Amanda Hill, who is looking to add some purpose and passion to your life. So if you're a particular professional person, stay listening. Amanda's got a great offer for you. Then catch up with Rebecca Young from Access to Arts. The fringe. The festival all about to get underway. What's successful? What's sort of described? Very soon we'll find out from Rebecca. Then we will catch up with Maureen O'Reilly from the Vision Australia library. Lots of good things happening there. A chance for you to get involved with that as well. Doesn't matter where you live, you can still get involved. And Andrew Flatters will join us from here. And where the Asia conference has just been on the Assistive Technology Industry Association, their big conference in Orlando. Andrew was there. He'll give us his impressions. If you're listening through 1190 7 a.m. in Adelaide and 8:00 for your listening pleasure. Lizzie and Sam are here with studio one. In fact, blow me down. They're here right now to tell me what is on studio one tonight.

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Well, Amanda Hill is an author for good at technology as well, and is hoping to maybe help you find your passion and purpose. Amanda, always great to catch up. Thank you for your time.

Well, Amanda Hill is an author for good at technology as well, and is hoping to maybe help you find your passion and purpose. Amanda, always great to catch up. Thank you for your time.

Thank you for having me.

Thank you for having me.

Now you've got a rather interesting, I guess, proposal to put to some professional women who may be interested.

Now you've got a rather interesting, I guess, proposal to put to some professional women who may be interested.

Well, yes, I, I my vision is to take five professional women on a 90 day journey to discover their life's purpose so they can find more fulfillment and meaning in their lives.

Well, yes, I, I my vision is to take five professional women on a 90 day journey to discover their life's purpose so they can find more fulfillment and meaning in their lives.

What made you decide to do this?

What made you decide to do this?

Well, I worked as a lawyer for 17 years. I was suddenly made redundant. I sold skin care for a while, did that badly, retrained as a speaker and coach, and along the way I discovered my own life's purpose, which is to inspire and encourage others Lose, and I realized just how much meaning and direction and passion that gave my life. And so I thought, well, why not help other people do the same? So I wrote a book, and now I'm have turned the book into an online course and coaching program.

Well, I worked as a lawyer for 17 years. I was suddenly made redundant. I sold skin care for a while, did that badly, retrained as a speaker and coach, and along the way I discovered my own life's purpose, which is to inspire and encourage others Lose, and I realized just how much meaning and direction and passion that gave my life. And so I thought, well, why not help other people do the same? So I wrote a book, and now I'm have turned the book into an online course and coaching program.

Yeah. We've spoken to you about the book, which I know was a very, very well received. So in a sense, it's kind of your lived experience of knowing that there is more to life than what you might be doing right now. Not you.

Yeah. We've spoken to you about the book, which I know was a very, very well received. So in a sense, it's kind of your lived experience of knowing that there is more to life than what you might be doing right now. Not you.

Personally.

Personally.

But other people.

But other people.

Absolutely. Yes. It's it's very, very practical. It's got, um, yes, tips and stuff that I've picked up along the way and I've learned from others. And yeah, so it's kind of an expanded and improved upon version of the book.

Absolutely. Yes. It's it's very, very practical. It's got, um, yes, tips and stuff that I've picked up along the way and I've learned from others. And yeah, so it's kind of an expanded and improved upon version of the book.

Do you think it's one of those things.

Do you think it's one of those things.

Where often you hear about you don't know what you've got till it's gone? Sometimes maybe you don't realize what you're missing out on until it's pointed out to, you know.

Where often you hear about you don't know what you've got till it's gone? Sometimes maybe you don't realize what you're missing out on until it's pointed out to, you know.

Well, absolutely. I mean, I've just been puttering along with my job and just gradually over time, I was starting to feel really like disheartened. Disillusioned. I was dreading getting up for work each day. My work didn't fulfill me. I felt like I was sort of really being ignored and and that nothing I really did made a difference. And after discovering my life's purpose, it was like, yay! I have a reason to get up every day, and I'm excited about it. And my days just fly by. And you know, nothing is everything is is bright and shiny and happy. And I mean, well, I mean, of course there are tough times, but it's my purpose is like my, I guess, guiding light, really. It keeps me on track and shows me where to go and gets me up when things get down. And.

Well, absolutely. I mean, I've just been puttering along with my job and just gradually over time, I was starting to feel really like disheartened. Disillusioned. I was dreading getting up for work each day. My work didn't fulfill me. I felt like I was sort of really being ignored and and that nothing I really did made a difference. And after discovering my life's purpose, it was like, yay! I have a reason to get up every day, and I'm excited about it. And my days just fly by. And you know, nothing is everything is is bright and shiny and happy. And I mean, well, I mean, of course there are tough times, but it's my purpose is like my, I guess, guiding light, really. It keeps me on track and shows me where to go and gets me up when things get down. And.

Yeah, and, you know, you talked about.

Yeah, and, you know, you talked about.

The fact that, you know, you're kind of not finding work fulfilling. I guess that also meant you probably weren't working as well as you could. You weren't as productive as you could be. So it's a bit of a sort of a vicious circle.

The fact that, you know, you're kind of not finding work fulfilling. I guess that also meant you probably weren't working as well as you could. You weren't as productive as you could be. So it's a bit of a sort of a vicious circle.

Yes it was. I was, as my motivation got lower. I couldn't understand why I never got promoted. And I was at that stage because I was unmotivated and unhappy. It's like, well, I'm not going to do a job more than you're paying me to do. And my so my supervisors were saying, well, why should we promote you if you're not stepping up and show us, showing us you can do the job?

Yes it was. I was, as my motivation got lower. I couldn't understand why I never got promoted. And I was at that stage because I was unmotivated and unhappy. It's like, well, I'm not going to do a job more than you're paying me to do. And my so my supervisors were saying, well, why should we promote you if you're not stepping up and show us, showing us you can do the job?

Of course. Uh, sort of, uh, part of that might be the fact that, uh, you are a person with a vision impairment, and maybe that might have played a role in not getting a promotion, but that might be a topic for another day.

Of course. Uh, sort of, uh, part of that might be the fact that, uh, you are a person with a vision impairment, and maybe that might have played a role in not getting a promotion, but that might be a topic for another day.

Yes, definitely. Definitely. Yes. It can of worms in that one.

Yes, definitely. Definitely. Yes. It can of worms in that one.

Indeed. So how does the kind of work. Well, you talked about 90 days. Uh, is there a magic about 90 days or you know, how did you come up with this?

Indeed. So how does the kind of work. Well, you talked about 90 days. Uh, is there a magic about 90 days or you know, how did you come up with this?

90 days. Seems like I didn't want it to be too long, and I didn't want it to be too short. And I've coached people through the book one on one, and it took around 90 days. It's to go through all the all the chapters of the book and in this case, all the modules of the course. So there are 1010 modules which take you through all the different, um, aspects of discovering your purpose, examining your present, examining your past, and examining your passions and dreams. And also there's like mindset stuff about dealing with change, um, growing your confidence and courage, um, building resilience, you know, even even a little bit on, on mastering your finances. And as the person goes through those modules, they also have, um, three, one on one coaching sessions with me, plus a 90 minute Discover Your Purpose session at the end. So yeah, 90 days just seem to be kind of the sweet spot.

90 days. Seems like I didn't want it to be too long, and I didn't want it to be too short. And I've coached people through the book one on one, and it took around 90 days. It's to go through all the all the chapters of the book and in this case, all the modules of the course. So there are 1010 modules which take you through all the different, um, aspects of discovering your purpose, examining your present, examining your past, and examining your passions and dreams. And also there's like mindset stuff about dealing with change, um, growing your confidence and courage, um, building resilience, you know, even even a little bit on, on mastering your finances. And as the person goes through those modules, they also have, um, three, one on one coaching sessions with me, plus a 90 minute Discover Your Purpose session at the end. So yeah, 90 days just seem to be kind of the sweet spot.

And what about as far as, uh, going to be a little bit maybe confronting in a, in a sense if maybe you kind of come across stuff that, you know, maybe that is obvious, but you didn't want to face potentially.

And what about as far as, uh, going to be a little bit maybe confronting in a, in a sense if maybe you kind of come across stuff that, you know, maybe that is obvious, but you didn't want to face potentially.

Yeah, potentially with.

Yeah, potentially with.

Um, part of it anyway.

Um, part of it anyway.

Thought of it wasn't confronting. I wouldn't say it was confronting for me, but it was eye opening. I'd say eye opening because, um, when you do a lot of deep work and there's a lot of deep work involved, you watch a 15 minute video and then you go off and, you know, do some, you know, deep self-reflection. And I certainly learned a lot about myself. So you people who do the course will learn a lot about themselves. But I wouldn't necessarily say confronting more eye opening.

Thought of it wasn't confronting. I wouldn't say it was confronting for me, but it was eye opening. I'd say eye opening because, um, when you do a lot of deep work and there's a lot of deep work involved, you watch a 15 minute video and then you go off and, you know, do some, you know, deep self-reflection. And I certainly learned a lot about myself. So you people who do the course will learn a lot about themselves. But I wouldn't necessarily say confronting more eye opening.

That's a better word. Um, so how does it work? Is it one on one? Do I kind of, uh, go away and do it by myself and sort of get back to you for some support along the way? How does that all work?

That's a better word. Um, so how does it work? Is it one on one? Do I kind of, uh, go away and do it by myself and sort of get back to you for some support along the way? How does that all work?

Pretty much yes. So there's two components. There's the video online video, part of the course where, um, where you watch a video, like you watch a video and then you'll do an exercise and then you'll watch a video, and then you'll do an exercise. And by the end of the module, which might have three videos in it, then you'll book in with a coaching call with me, and we'll work for an hour and unpack all the stuff you've done in your exercises and deal with any roadblocks you might be facing or difficulties. And then you go off and do the next module.

Pretty much yes. So there's two components. There's the video online video, part of the course where, um, where you watch a video, like you watch a video and then you'll do an exercise and then you'll watch a video, and then you'll do an exercise. And by the end of the module, which might have three videos in it, then you'll book in with a coaching call with me, and we'll work for an hour and unpack all the stuff you've done in your exercises and deal with any roadblocks you might be facing or difficulties. And then you go off and do the next module.

And that is it mainly aimed at a professional woman.

And that is it mainly aimed at a professional woman.

Yes, yes. I mean, I don't have anything against men. I'm happy to work with men, but I picked professional women because that's what I was. And I felt that they would be the easiest people for me to relate to. And, you know, they could relate to me because we're sort of coming from the same background as it were.

Yes, yes. I mean, I don't have anything against men. I'm happy to work with men, but I picked professional women because that's what I was. And I felt that they would be the easiest people for me to relate to. And, you know, they could relate to me because we're sort of coming from the same background as it were.

And I guess you say similar experiences maybe talked about, for example, not being promoted or not feeling valued. I guess you can kind of share in those sort of experiences as well.

And I guess you say similar experiences maybe talked about, for example, not being promoted or not feeling valued. I guess you can kind of share in those sort of experiences as well.

Definitely.

Definitely.

Yeah. What about as far as kind of, um, the accessibility of what you do? How easy is it to access? You talked about videos and that sort of thing.

Yeah. What about as far as kind of, um, the accessibility of what you do? How easy is it to access? You talked about videos and that sort of thing.

Well, I'm building the course out on Kajabi, and I did a lot of, research into Kajabi, and it is really quite accessible on a phone, on a mobile phone and also on a computer. Okay, I'm doing another course myself. I've done a number of courses on kajabi. So, um, yes, everything is is accessible. It's accessible for me to build out and it's more importantly accessible, more accessible for the the clients. Everything is just like tick boxes, and there's nothing actual visual in the videos. It's just, you know, I know sighted people like to see someone talking and they like to see text on the screen, but there's nothing, absolutely nothing someone, anyone would miss by not looking at the screen.

Well, I'm building the course out on Kajabi, and I did a lot of, research into Kajabi, and it is really quite accessible on a phone, on a mobile phone and also on a computer. Okay, I'm doing another course myself. I've done a number of courses on kajabi. So, um, yes, everything is is accessible. It's accessible for me to build out and it's more importantly accessible, more accessible for the the clients. Everything is just like tick boxes, and there's nothing actual visual in the videos. It's just, you know, I know sighted people like to see someone talking and they like to see text on the screen, but there's nothing, absolutely nothing someone, anyone would miss by not looking at the screen.

What about as far as, um, I guess sort of along the way, you know, getting feedback or people think, oh, I'm not quite sure. Maybe, maybe this isn't for me, or I might need a bit of a break from it. I mean, can you kind of opt out? You know, if if things don't go the way you wanted them to go?

What about as far as, um, I guess sort of along the way, you know, getting feedback or people think, oh, I'm not quite sure. Maybe, maybe this isn't for me, or I might need a bit of a break from it. I mean, can you kind of opt out? You know, if if things don't go the way you wanted them to go?

Potentially. I mean, ideally, ideally someone would go from beginning to end, but, um, you know, we're all humans. We all have lives. Things happen. So very happy to be within reason, you know, flexible with with people's life circumstances. Yes.

Potentially. I mean, ideally, ideally someone would go from beginning to end, but, um, you know, we're all humans. We all have lives. Things happen. So very happy to be within reason, you know, flexible with with people's life circumstances. Yes.

How about as far as, uh, the sort of cost of it goes? Are you happy to talk a bit about that?

How about as far as, uh, the sort of cost of it goes? Are you happy to talk a bit about that?

It's. Well, it's kind of a tricky thing because it's, it's kind of a little bit tailored. So the cost can potentially vary from person to person. There is an investment involved and it's, it's, you know, a reasonable investment. But it's, you know, there's a great deal of value in the course and it is life changing. And yeah, so there is an investment, but I don't think I want to give you an exact number.

It's. Well, it's kind of a tricky thing because it's, it's kind of a little bit tailored. So the cost can potentially vary from person to person. There is an investment involved and it's, it's, you know, a reasonable investment. But it's, you know, there's a great deal of value in the course and it is life changing. And yeah, so there is an investment, but I don't think I want to give you an exact number.

And is that because if you pay for something you're more likely to see it out? If, if you say, look, I got this free offer for everyone, then people are going to take it up. Don't really, uh, aren't really committed to it and that sort of thing. So. Exactly. Yeah.

And is that because if you pay for something you're more likely to see it out? If, if you say, look, I got this free offer for everyone, then people are going to take it up. Don't really, uh, aren't really committed to it and that sort of thing. So. Exactly. Yeah.

You have hit the nail on the head. It it is, it is priced Christ so that someone who who buys that will go. Mm. Okay. I've invested in this course. Now I'm actually going to do it. I mean, the number of $37 courses, you know, $195 courses I've enrolled in and I've done half and just quit. But then if you have a larger investment, you're much more likely to value it more highly and put more into it.

You have hit the nail on the head. It it is, it is priced Christ so that someone who who buys that will go. Mm. Okay. I've invested in this course. Now I'm actually going to do it. I mean, the number of $37 courses, you know, $195 courses I've enrolled in and I've done half and just quit. But then if you have a larger investment, you're much more likely to value it more highly and put more into it.

You've been going for a little while. What sort of feedback have you got? So I know your book was very well received, and I was actually lucky to get a I might have been a discounted version of the book, which I enjoyed reading. I mean, that's obviously a good sort of litmus test for what you're doing.

You've been going for a little while. What sort of feedback have you got? So I know your book was very well received, and I was actually lucky to get a I might have been a discounted version of the book, which I enjoyed reading. I mean, that's obviously a good sort of litmus test for what you're doing.

Yes, I've, I have had very good feedback on the book. Um, the course is just starting, which is, uh, so, you know, anyone who enters in will actually get a substantial discount for the first five participants. Um, I think it's. Oh, what is it? It's not quite it's not quite 50% off, but it's, you know, it is quite a substantial discount that they'll get. Being for the first five participants.

Yes, I've, I have had very good feedback on the book. Um, the course is just starting, which is, uh, so, you know, anyone who enters in will actually get a substantial discount for the first five participants. Um, I think it's. Oh, what is it? It's not quite it's not quite 50% off, but it's, you know, it is quite a substantial discount that they'll get. Being for the first five participants.

What the the early bird gets the worm. I mean, if we go around Australia on the Australia Radio Network and indeed around the world on the internet, does it matter where people live or where women live if they're not necessarily in Australia? Does that matter?

What the the early bird gets the worm. I mean, if we go around Australia on the Australia Radio Network and indeed around the world on the internet, does it matter where people live or where women live if they're not necessarily in Australia? Does that matter?

No, not at all. Not at all. Um. Can be I can. The videos are, of course, self-paced, so you can watch them at any time. But, you know, I'm, I've been dealing with people all over the world in various roles that I've played for years. So, you know, I've, I've been known to interview someone at midnight because they were in America and, you know, whatnot. So, yeah, very happy to be flexible anywhere in the world.

No, not at all. Not at all. Um. Can be I can. The videos are, of course, self-paced, so you can watch them at any time. But, you know, I'm, I've been dealing with people all over the world in various roles that I've played for years. So, you know, I've, I've been known to interview someone at midnight because they were in America and, you know, whatnot. So, yeah, very happy to be flexible anywhere in the world.

What about how it's changed you or how it's developed you? I'm going to assume you're probably, you know, better rounded, better equipped than you were when you started this. And and then, you know, 17 years ago or four years ago or whatever.

What about how it's changed you or how it's developed you? I'm going to assume you're probably, you know, better rounded, better equipped than you were when you started this. And and then, you know, 17 years ago or four years ago or whatever.

Oh, I'm, I am a completely different person to what I was when I was made redundant from my legal career in 2014. I'm happy I'm fulfilled. I'm working at my best. I, you know, jump out of bed each day when the alarm goes off because it's like, yay! I get to inspire and encourage more people today. This is great. So yes, I'm I am a completely different and much more productive. Yeah, completely different person than I was. Yes. And that's what I hope for. What other people will or I know that other people will achieve.

Oh, I'm, I am a completely different person to what I was when I was made redundant from my legal career in 2014. I'm happy I'm fulfilled. I'm working at my best. I, you know, jump out of bed each day when the alarm goes off because it's like, yay! I get to inspire and encourage more people today. This is great. So yes, I'm I am a completely different and much more productive. Yeah, completely different person than I was. Yes. And that's what I hope for. What other people will or I know that other people will achieve.

And that energy is so important, isn't it? You know, if you've got good energy, if you're emitting good energy, I'm not sure if that's the right word, but you know what I mean. If you're giving off good vibes when you're working with people, they pick up on that and kind of can capitalize and be energized themselves from it, particularly if they're feeling a little bit down.

And that energy is so important, isn't it? You know, if you've got good energy, if you're emitting good energy, I'm not sure if that's the right word, but you know what I mean. If you're giving off good vibes when you're working with people, they pick up on that and kind of can capitalize and be energized themselves from it, particularly if they're feeling a little bit down.

Absolutely. Yes, absolutely.

Absolutely. Yes, absolutely.

All right. Now, what about as far as if people wanted to find out more or maybe spread the word, perhaps if someone listening in might know a woman working in the professional area that might think, I think, um, this person might benefit. And you're talking about any kind of profession. I mean, you talked about yourself being in law, but it doesn't.

All right. Now, what about as far as if people wanted to find out more or maybe spread the word, perhaps if someone listening in might know a woman working in the professional area that might think, I think, um, this person might benefit. And you're talking about any kind of profession. I mean, you talked about yourself being in law, but it doesn't.

Any kind.

Any kind.

Of profession. Yeah, yeah. All right, so what's the kind of first step?

Of profession. Yeah, yeah. All right, so what's the kind of first step?

Just shoot me an email at, um, because the program is called purpose, vision future. And so just shoot me an email at info at Purpose vision. Com and I will message you back and we can, you know, possibly book in a call and, or, you know, short call to see if we're a good fit and go from there.

Just shoot me an email at, um, because the program is called purpose, vision future. And so just shoot me an email at info at Purpose vision. Com and I will message you back and we can, you know, possibly book in a call and, or, you know, short call to see if we're a good fit and go from there.

I was going to ask you about that actually at the beginning. So you kind of do a bit of a, an idea of what the person is that that is applying and kind of get a bit of a feel as to what they're about and indeed whether what you're proposing might work as well. You kind of, uh, get a sense someone's, uh, sort of intentions, if I can put it that way.

I was going to ask you about that actually at the beginning. So you kind of do a bit of a, an idea of what the person is that that is applying and kind of get a bit of a feel as to what they're about and indeed whether what you're proposing might work as well. You kind of, uh, get a sense someone's, uh, sort of intentions, if I can put it that way.

Absolutely. Yeah. After emailing, uh, maybe a message or two back and forth, then we we I booked them on a 15 minute call and we just, you know, get to know each other a little bit. I can give them a little bit of information and then if they want to proceed, we can go from there. If they're not a good fit, then I can possibly recommend them to someone else.

Absolutely. Yeah. After emailing, uh, maybe a message or two back and forth, then we we I booked them on a 15 minute call and we just, you know, get to know each other a little bit. I can give them a little bit of information and then if they want to proceed, we can go from there. If they're not a good fit, then I can possibly recommend them to someone else.

Okay. So if you think, well, actually what I'm offering isn't probably going to work for you. You have to assure people that you're not going to call them, lead them up the proverbial garden path.

Okay. So if you think, well, actually what I'm offering isn't probably going to work for you. You have to assure people that you're not going to call them, lead them up the proverbial garden path.

Oh, gosh. No, I'm I'm not here. I mean, of course I'm here to make money. We have to pay the bills. But my primary purpose is to serve, and I if my program is not going to serve someone. In fact, I had a conversation with someone just the other day and we were talking away. And I went, you know what? I don't think you're ready for this. So I gave her some information to help her from where she was at, and we parted ways and everything was rosy.

Oh, gosh. No, I'm I'm not here. I mean, of course I'm here to make money. We have to pay the bills. But my primary purpose is to serve, and I if my program is not going to serve someone. In fact, I had a conversation with someone just the other day and we were talking away. And I went, you know what? I don't think you're ready for this. So I gave her some information to help her from where she was at, and we parted ways and everything was rosy.

And your experience in this area kind of you can you can pick up on those sort of things. Yeah, yeah. All right. Give us your email address. And also, I guess it doesn't matter what sort of age a woman is, as long as that kind of, uh, professional. Um, that's kind of a prerequisite, if I can put it that way.

And your experience in this area kind of you can you can pick up on those sort of things. Yeah, yeah. All right. Give us your email address. And also, I guess it doesn't matter what sort of age a woman is, as long as that kind of, uh, professional. Um, that's kind of a prerequisite, if I can put it that way.

Yeah. So basically, if they're feeling that they're lacking meaning and fulfillment in their lives, that's the person, the sort of person that I'm looking for. And they're they're willing to invest in themselves and they're willing to to do the work. Uh, absolutely. Uh, so my address is info at Vision Futures. Com.

Yeah. So basically, if they're feeling that they're lacking meaning and fulfillment in their lives, that's the person, the sort of person that I'm looking for. And they're they're willing to invest in themselves and they're willing to to do the work. Uh, absolutely. Uh, so my address is info at Vision Futures. Com.

Alright. We'll put that up with our show notes. And always great to catch up. You got a you have got a good energy about you I can say that. So, uh, good luck with it. And well, I guess in all seriousness, if one person benefits from it, it's been worthwhile.

Alright. We'll put that up with our show notes. And always great to catch up. You got a you have got a good energy about you I can say that. So, uh, good luck with it. And well, I guess in all seriousness, if one person benefits from it, it's been worthwhile.

Absolutely. And thank you so much for the opportunity.

Absolutely. And thank you so much for the opportunity.

It's mad to hear their, uh, who's they're offering that to a very generous thing there. So maybe if you or someone you know could benefit from that, get in touch and we'll put all that information up with our show notes as well. Well, I reckon I say this every year that Rebecca Young has Christmas in December and then, uh, barely turns around and it's Christmas again because the French and the foreign. Rebecca Young is the CEO for access to us. Rebecca, welcome. Happy New Year and great to have you back.

It's mad to hear their, uh, who's they're offering that to a very generous thing there. So maybe if you or someone you know could benefit from that, get in touch and we'll put all that information up with our show notes as well. Well, I reckon I say this every year that Rebecca Young has Christmas in December and then, uh, barely turns around and it's Christmas again because the French and the foreign. Rebecca Young is the CEO for access to us. Rebecca, welcome. Happy New Year and great to have you back.

Thanks, Peter. It's great to be back. And we are certainly off to a flying start to the year.

Thanks, Peter. It's great to be back. And we are certainly off to a flying start to the year.

You probably don't really get much time off because, well, I guess the other thing is you probably do a lot of planning beforehand so you can have a bit of a break.

You probably don't really get much time off because, well, I guess the other thing is you probably do a lot of planning beforehand so you can have a bit of a break.

Absolutely. Our, uh, our friends and festival season planning definitely starts back in October and November. But, yeah, it's a pretty, uh, short break over December because, uh, everyone is keen to get going.

Absolutely. Our, uh, our friends and festival season planning definitely starts back in October and November. But, yeah, it's a pretty, uh, short break over December because, uh, everyone is keen to get going.

And you're getting going with the flying start. I guess starting with the fringe. Uh, poster. Uh, you got some good news about that?

And you're getting going with the flying start. I guess starting with the fringe. Uh, poster. Uh, you got some good news about that?

Yes, absolutely. So we have a wonderful access partnership with fringe. And one of the A things that we do as part of that, um, partnership is, uh, we, I suppose, donate the, uh, audio description of the French poster every year because we know that, uh, all of the fringe merchandise and signs and all of the advertising featured an incredible new piece of artwork each year. Um, so I think it's only fair that the community can access the audio description and find out a bit, a bit more about what the artwork looks like.

Yes, absolutely. So we have a wonderful access partnership with fringe. And one of the A things that we do as part of that, um, partnership is, uh, we, I suppose, donate the, uh, audio description of the French poster every year because we know that, uh, all of the fringe merchandise and signs and all of the advertising featured an incredible new piece of artwork each year. Um, so I think it's only fair that the community can access the audio description and find out a bit, a bit more about what the artwork looks like.

And how can we do that?

And how can we do that?

Well, you can do that on the fringe website. Um, and I believe you can also do that on the Access to Artwork site.

Well, you can do that on the fringe website. Um, and I believe you can also do that on the Access to Artwork site.

You could do it on your access because I have done it, but, uh, I was on the fringe as well. That's kind of cool. And I mean, that kind of partnership, if you like that collaboration that is so important, isn't it?

You could do it on your access because I have done it, but, uh, I was on the fringe as well. That's kind of cool. And I mean, that kind of partnership, if you like that collaboration that is so important, isn't it?

It really is. Um, and through, um, that partnership, we also describe each year the First Nations cultural tours that they do at the beginning of fringe, which is a beautiful opportunity to walk through the Botanic Gardens with a First Nations guide and find out a little bit more about, um, the Ghana culture and their connection to land and plants and how it all comes together.

It really is. Um, and through, um, that partnership, we also describe each year the First Nations cultural tours that they do at the beginning of fringe, which is a beautiful opportunity to walk through the Botanic Gardens with a First Nations guide and find out a little bit more about, um, the Ghana culture and their connection to land and plants and how it all comes together.

What can we hear about the Welcome to Country at different, uh, events and stuff? But I guess this is kind of taking that a little bit further and kind of, you know, really, uh, getting getting right into it rather than just, uh, you know, sort of a ceremonial thing.

What can we hear about the Welcome to Country at different, uh, events and stuff? But I guess this is kind of taking that a little bit further and kind of, you know, really, uh, getting getting right into it rather than just, uh, you know, sort of a ceremonial thing.

Absolutely. It's, um, it's really getting to, um, have a guide to take you around. And those tours are amazing because they're talking about plants, so they're quite tactile and there's smell, and you can feel different, different plants and leaves and really, um, and obviously our audio describers, uh, walk around with the group, um, and describe things as they go, but it's that lovely, um, sort of two way event where, um, patrons can ask questions of both the guide and of the audio describers if they want more description of certain elements.

Absolutely. It's, um, it's really getting to, um, have a guide to take you around. And those tours are amazing because they're talking about plants, so they're quite tactile and there's smell, and you can feel different, different plants and leaves and really, um, and obviously our audio describers, uh, walk around with the group, um, and describe things as they go, but it's that lovely, um, sort of two way event where, um, patrons can ask questions of both the guide and of the audio describers if they want more description of certain elements.

We talked about lived experience in all walks of life, and kind of that is one, isn't it? When you've got someone with that background that can kind of be part of it, that gives a lot of cred.

We talked about lived experience in all walks of life, and kind of that is one, isn't it? When you've got someone with that background that can kind of be part of it, that gives a lot of cred.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

You've got some good news regarding one of your staff members.

You've got some good news regarding one of your staff members.

Yes. Uh, our, um, delightful Abby Madden, who's our training coordinator, was, uh, lucky enough to get a leadership scholarship with Actnow Theatre, so that is fantastic. It will give her some opportunities to work with other, um, sort of leaders from different intersectional groups within arts and culture. So that will be really lovely for her.

Yes. Uh, our, um, delightful Abby Madden, who's our training coordinator, was, uh, lucky enough to get a leadership scholarship with Actnow Theatre, so that is fantastic. It will give her some opportunities to work with other, um, sort of leaders from different intersectional groups within arts and culture. So that will be really lovely for her.

Well, I'll just pick you up on a word. They're not lucky enough. No. Good enough, I think. Bec.

Well, I'll just pick you up on a word. They're not lucky enough. No. Good enough, I think. Bec.

Yes.

Yes.

Yeah. Well, congratulations, Abby. That's a wonderful recognition. I guess it kind of, you know, puts an exclamation mark to the people that you employ as well. If I could put it that way.

Yeah. Well, congratulations, Abby. That's a wonderful recognition. I guess it kind of, you know, puts an exclamation mark to the people that you employ as well. If I could put it that way.

Absolutely. I am incredibly fortunate to have an excellent team with a diverse range of lived experience and lots of great skills and lots of interesting backgrounds as practicing artists as well, which really helps to bring their work to life. Because not only are they incredible access consultants and arts workers, they're also, um, all artists in their own right.

Absolutely. I am incredibly fortunate to have an excellent team with a diverse range of lived experience and lots of great skills and lots of interesting backgrounds as practicing artists as well, which really helps to bring their work to life. Because not only are they incredible access consultants and arts workers, they're also, um, all artists in their own right.

As you said before, it's a small team, but a very quality team, which is very, very important.

As you said before, it's a small team, but a very quality team, which is very, very important.

Yes.

Yes.

All right. We'll give people details as to how they can get in touch. Yeah. Before we wrap up, what about some of the things that are on at the moment? Something pretty cool is happening at the art gallery. I actually spoke to someone who went to this over the weekend, uh, this, um, radical textile exhibition.

All right. We'll give people details as to how they can get in touch. Yeah. Before we wrap up, what about some of the things that are on at the moment? Something pretty cool is happening at the art gallery. I actually spoke to someone who went to this over the weekend, uh, this, um, radical textile exhibition.

Yes. Um, radicals textiles is super interesting at that gallery. Lots of really interesting pieces of work there. And obviously some audio described tours, um, which is fantastic. Um, with our wonderful describers. And there will also be audio descriptions in, uh, next door to the art gallery, um, at the SA museum for the incredible new um Galloway Hoard, which has come over from Scotland, and it's an exhibition of, um, Viking treasures. Okay, so I was lucky enough to go to the opening on, um, Friday night and get a little sneak peek of that, but our describers have been doing lots of work on recorded descriptions for that, and we would, um, which aren't open yet, but we'll be very soon. Um, and we'd love feedback on how that goes, because we've tried a new thing with adding some, um, directional information from each audio description as well, so that it helps you to get to the next exhibit.

Yes. Um, radicals textiles is super interesting at that gallery. Lots of really interesting pieces of work there. And obviously some audio described tours, um, which is fantastic. Um, with our wonderful describers. And there will also be audio descriptions in, uh, next door to the art gallery, um, at the SA museum for the incredible new um Galloway Hoard, which has come over from Scotland, and it's an exhibition of, um, Viking treasures. Okay, so I was lucky enough to go to the opening on, um, Friday night and get a little sneak peek of that, but our describers have been doing lots of work on recorded descriptions for that, and we would, um, which aren't open yet, but we'll be very soon. Um, and we'd love feedback on how that goes, because we've tried a new thing with adding some, um, directional information from each audio description as well, so that it helps you to get to the next exhibit.

Okay. A bit of, uh, well, you know, organization like maps, uh, do things like that or in a different sort of way. So I guess it's just kind of adds to, you know, once independence and just sort of, uh, getting their familiarity with their surroundings as well?

Okay. A bit of, uh, well, you know, organization like maps, uh, do things like that or in a different sort of way. So I guess it's just kind of adds to, you know, once independence and just sort of, uh, getting their familiarity with their surroundings as well?

Absolutely. So, um, yes, but that is a super exciting exhibition, and I'm really looking forward to hearing people's thoughts about the audio description, because it will be beautiful.

Absolutely. So, um, yes, but that is a super exciting exhibition, and I'm really looking forward to hearing people's thoughts about the audio description, because it will be beautiful.

For people listening to those with that exhibition in the art gallery. It's also going to have, uh, Auslan and also there's going to be a quiet session as well, relaxation as well.

For people listening to those with that exhibition in the art gallery. It's also going to have, uh, Auslan and also there's going to be a quiet session as well, relaxation as well.

Absolutely. The art gallery is doing lots of things with that, and there are some incredible pieces of work in there. One of my favourites is one, um, I've been quite familiar with for, um, many years, which is an incredible tapestry done by women from the deaf community, um, of, uh, fingerspelling. So each of the, each of the letters of the alphabet, um, and I know that was a centrepiece at two, six, two South Terrace.

Absolutely. The art gallery is doing lots of things with that, and there are some incredible pieces of work in there. One of my favourites is one, um, I've been quite familiar with for, um, many years, which is an incredible tapestry done by women from the deaf community, um, of, uh, fingerspelling. So each of the, each of the letters of the alphabet, um, and I know that was a centrepiece at two, six, two South Terrace.

The old. Yeah.

The old. Yeah.

The old, uh, deaf.

The old, uh, deaf.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, yes. And there's a lovely young deaf man, William, who has done some, some, uh, great interpretive, uh, videos around that piece of work as well.

So, yes. And there's a lovely young deaf man, William, who has done some, some, uh, great interpretive, uh, videos around that piece of work as well.

Oh, how cool is that? Well, actually, I don't want to make it about me, Rebecca, but having gone to Townsend back a few years ago and we had the kids who were deaf or hearing impaired in the school, we learned finger spelling as well, which is a great way to communicate. And, you know, they might have had a bit of an idea about Braille, and we had a bit of an idea about fingerspelling. So talk about intersectional work, things coming together. That was kind of a bit of a bit of that in a nutshell as well.

Oh, how cool is that? Well, actually, I don't want to make it about me, Rebecca, but having gone to Townsend back a few years ago and we had the kids who were deaf or hearing impaired in the school, we learned finger spelling as well, which is a great way to communicate. And, you know, they might have had a bit of an idea about Braille, and we had a bit of an idea about fingerspelling. So talk about intersectional work, things coming together. That was kind of a bit of a bit of that in a nutshell as well.

Absolutely. Well, as you know, Peter, I was yes, I worked at Townsend House in uh, deaf can do and can do for kids for many years. But I would say my fingerspelling is slightly rustier than it should be.

Absolutely. Well, as you know, Peter, I was yes, I worked at Townsend House in uh, deaf can do and can do for kids for many years. But I would say my fingerspelling is slightly rustier than it should be.

Oh well.

Oh well.

Probably.

Probably.

Yeah, it's probably the sort of thing that a bit like riding a bike back. Maybe if you use it after a while it would kind of come back. But I, I certainly remember through some of the letters actually. And uh, if you've got young people in your, in your family that, uh, sometimes learn this sort of thing either for fun or at school, you can kind of, uh, be refreshed as well, but, uh, it's enough about it's enough about aspect. Now I see that, uh, Catherine Fitzgerald's, uh, exhibition is not the Pepper Street. Is that closed yet, or is it opened in January?

Yeah, it's probably the sort of thing that a bit like riding a bike back. Maybe if you use it after a while it would kind of come back. But I, I certainly remember through some of the letters actually. And uh, if you've got young people in your, in your family that, uh, sometimes learn this sort of thing either for fun or at school, you can kind of, uh, be refreshed as well, but, uh, it's enough about it's enough about aspect. Now I see that, uh, Catherine Fitzgerald's, uh, exhibition is not the Pepper Street. Is that closed yet, or is it opened in January?

I believe it's still open.

I believe it's still open.

Yeah, I think so.

Yeah, I think so.

Moment. Um, and she's again done a great job with recorded audio descriptions for that. She's done I think it's something like 60 audio description she's done as part of that, uh, exhibition. And it was you know, it was actually, you know, a beautiful story because I first met Catherine walking into the launch of fringe several years ago with her, um, mother, Marjorie, who's a patron of the fringe and a long time, um, uh, incredible person in arts and culture. And so I, uh, but I hadn't met her before and sort of mentioned, uh, to Marjorie that I liked her dress, which she had made. And she got chatting to my husband, who decided to waltz her around while we were waiting in the line. And I got chatting to Catherine, who said, oh, all. I've been wanting to do this new exhibition and I want to put more access in, and I didn't really know where to start. So can I come and have a coffee? And from that coffee, she has trained as an audio describer, um, and is now providing all sorts of incredible access in her exhibition. So it was a just a lovely chance meeting that has led to some really incredible work down the track.

Moment. Um, and she's again done a great job with recorded audio descriptions for that. She's done I think it's something like 60 audio description she's done as part of that, uh, exhibition. And it was you know, it was actually, you know, a beautiful story because I first met Catherine walking into the launch of fringe several years ago with her, um, mother, Marjorie, who's a patron of the fringe and a long time, um, uh, incredible person in arts and culture. And so I, uh, but I hadn't met her before and sort of mentioned, uh, to Marjorie that I liked her dress, which she had made. And she got chatting to my husband, who decided to waltz her around while we were waiting in the line. And I got chatting to Catherine, who said, oh, all. I've been wanting to do this new exhibition and I want to put more access in, and I didn't really know where to start. So can I come and have a coffee? And from that coffee, she has trained as an audio describer, um, and is now providing all sorts of incredible access in her exhibition. So it was a just a lovely chance meeting that has led to some really incredible work down the track.

Well, if people kind of want to do the right thing and, you know, just the opportunity comes up and then people take advantage of it.

Well, if people kind of want to do the right thing and, you know, just the opportunity comes up and then people take advantage of it.

Absolutely, absolutely. And look, we find most of our audio describers are artists themselves in a lot of ways, which really gives them the understanding of how to describe the work technically, but also often that beautiful turn of phrase that makes it lovely to listen to as well.

Absolutely, absolutely. And look, we find most of our audio describers are artists themselves in a lot of ways, which really gives them the understanding of how to describe the work technically, but also often that beautiful turn of phrase that makes it lovely to listen to as well.

You know, there's another event coming up this Saturday night at Hart's Mill.

You know, there's another event coming up this Saturday night at Hart's Mill.

Ah, yes, there is amplify, which will be a really great event. Um, we've just finished putting together an access guide for it, but amplify sigh is a music festival. An accessible music festival. So, um, really aimed, uh, firmly at people with disability, um, and lots of different types of access there, as well as lots of artists playing with lived experience. There should be lots of fun.

Ah, yes, there is amplify, which will be a really great event. Um, we've just finished putting together an access guide for it, but amplify sigh is a music festival. An accessible music festival. So, um, really aimed, uh, firmly at people with disability, um, and lots of different types of access there, as well as lots of artists playing with lived experience. There should be lots of fun.

But, uh, I learned so much from your newsletters and your website, etc.. Are you aware of this show coming up? Uh, I'm not sure how to pronounce it, but it's got the word hag word hag in it, and it's kind of, uh, you know, the the changing meaning of hag over the years.

But, uh, I learned so much from your newsletters and your website, etc.. Are you aware of this show coming up? Uh, I'm not sure how to pronounce it, but it's got the word hag word hag in it, and it's kind of, uh, you know, the the changing meaning of hag over the years.

Oh, no, I am not across that one, but.

Oh, no, I am not across that one, but.

Okay. Um, well, it's in your newsletter. No, you don't you can't read everywhere. But it's really fascinating because the word hag for women is, well, you know, sort of insulting and and quite denigrating, but it kind of talks a bit about how, uh, it originally started, which I thought was really, really fascinating. So.

Okay. Um, well, it's in your newsletter. No, you don't you can't read everywhere. But it's really fascinating because the word hag for women is, well, you know, sort of insulting and and quite denigrating, but it kind of talks a bit about how, uh, it originally started, which I thought was really, really fascinating. So.

Yeah. Absolutely. And, you know, one of the things we talk about a lot when we're doing training with organizations is how communities take back language that's traditionally used to denigrate them. Um, and, you know, take ownership back of that language. But also, we spend a lot of time talking to people about how it's not appropriate for them to use that language if they're not part of that community.

Yeah. Absolutely. And, you know, one of the things we talk about a lot when we're doing training with organizations is how communities take back language that's traditionally used to denigrate them. Um, and, you know, take ownership back of that language. But also, we spend a lot of time talking to people about how it's not appropriate for them to use that language if they're not part of that community.

Well, yes. I hope people didn't take that the wrong way, but I learn about it every day. But it's good to point that sort of stuff out. And just before we give you the details, we actually spoke last week to Tony Doyle, who's very, very excited about his vistas and visions of a blind man coming up on March the 1st. And, uh, well, he said it was the only show at the fringe, but I think he might have been taking a bit of poetic license about that.

Well, yes. I hope people didn't take that the wrong way, but I learn about it every day. But it's good to point that sort of stuff out. And just before we give you the details, we actually spoke last week to Tony Doyle, who's very, very excited about his vistas and visions of a blind man coming up on March the 1st. And, uh, well, he said it was the only show at the fringe, but I think he might have been taking a bit of poetic license about that.

Possibly a bit of poetic license. But, um, I was fortunate enough to, uh, to get a sneak preview of Tony's work, uh, late last year, and, um, it is absolutely excellent. So I would, uh, would really encourage people to get along to that.

Possibly a bit of poetic license. But, um, I was fortunate enough to, uh, to get a sneak preview of Tony's work, uh, late last year, and, um, it is absolutely excellent. So I would, uh, would really encourage people to get along to that.

Well, I would add to that, encourage people to get along and heckle because I think Tony would like heckling. I think he'd like I think he'd like the opportunity to respond.

Well, I would add to that, encourage people to get along and heckle because I think Tony would like heckling. I think he'd like I think he'd like the opportunity to respond.

Well, you know, if you heckle, he knows there's lots of people there, right?

Well, you know, if you heckle, he knows there's lots of people there, right?

Oh, exactly. Yeah, that's a great point. But, um, how can people get in touch if there's so much more on and what we'll do and what I'll do is get in touch with you and maybe see if we can speak to some of the shows that are coming up during the fringe of the festival as well. So give them a bit of publicity. But in the meantime, how can we get in touch?

Oh, exactly. Yeah, that's a great point. But, um, how can people get in touch if there's so much more on and what we'll do and what I'll do is get in touch with you and maybe see if we can speak to some of the shows that are coming up during the fringe of the festival as well. So give them a bit of publicity. But in the meantime, how can we get in touch?

You can check out our website, which is Access to Arts with the number two. Org and you can give us a call on 84631689. But do remember we are a little part time team. So if you want to chat to someone and no one answers, definitely leave a message.

You can check out our website, which is Access to Arts with the number two. Org and you can give us a call on 84631689. But do remember we are a little part time team. So if you want to chat to someone and no one answers, definitely leave a message.

And you will be called back.

And you will be called back.

Yes.

Yes.

Great to catch up. It's going to be fantastic. Particularly the night. It's going to be fantastic, right? Throughout the year. Uh, this is kind of just the start of it. Look forward to keeping in touch right throughout the year.

Great to catch up. It's going to be fantastic. Particularly the night. It's going to be fantastic, right? Throughout the year. Uh, this is kind of just the start of it. Look forward to keeping in touch right throughout the year.

Look forward to talking more. Peter and I wish everyone an excellent, fun festival season.

Look forward to talking more. Peter and I wish everyone an excellent, fun festival season.

Yes, well, I think the weather's just going to be cooling down enough to enjoy, so it should be good fun.

Yes, well, I think the weather's just going to be cooling down enough to enjoy, so it should be good fun.

Let's hope.

Let's hope.

Thanks to the CEO for access to us. Access to us. As always, all that information up with our show notes.

Thanks to the CEO for access to us. Access to us. As always, all that information up with our show notes.

Yo, Holmes! What up? What up with you? What we gonna say? What we gonna do? Where are we gonna go? What are we gonna see? We're going to the library.

Yo, Holmes! What up? What up with you? What we gonna say? What we gonna do? Where are we gonna go? What are we gonna see? We're going to the library.

Well, it's back for a new year. Our regular catch ups with the Australia Library. Moreno. Moreno Riley is on the line. Maureen, welcome. Happy new year.

Well, it's back for a new year. Our regular catch ups with the Australia Library. Moreno. Moreno Riley is on the line. Maureen, welcome. Happy new year.

Happy New Year to you, too, Peter. I hope you had a wonderful Christmas break.

Happy New Year to you, too, Peter. I hope you had a wonderful Christmas break.

I had a nice break. Yes. You know, I just thought I didn't do too much exciting. But, uh, always good to, uh, have a bit of a switch the brain off and come back and all. Refresh. Now, um, you've come back all refreshed with a number of activities on. You've got something coming up, Valentine's Day.

I had a nice break. Yes. You know, I just thought I didn't do too much exciting. But, uh, always good to, uh, have a bit of a switch the brain off and come back and all. Refresh. Now, um, you've come back all refreshed with a number of activities on. You've got something coming up, Valentine's Day.

Ah, we do indeed. We have a wonderful way to spend Valentine's Day with Emily Maguire. So this Friday we have our in conversation. So it's our first major event for the year. And Emily is going to be discussing her latest book, rapture. So it will be really exciting. Emily's written many books and many, many, many articles, but her book An Isolated Incident was just shortlisted for the Stella Prize, the Miles Franklin Literary Award, the Australian Book Industry Awards, Literary Fiction Book of the year, and she's already being just talked about everywhere. It was astonishing. And because I was obviously going to read it, I couldn't get a copy of it at any of my libraries. I couldn't get a copy in my local bookstore. So I think it's going to be really very exciting to talk to Emily about why she thinks that this book is really causing such a furor everywhere.

Ah, we do indeed. We have a wonderful way to spend Valentine's Day with Emily Maguire. So this Friday we have our in conversation. So it's our first major event for the year. And Emily is going to be discussing her latest book, rapture. So it will be really exciting. Emily's written many books and many, many, many articles, but her book An Isolated Incident was just shortlisted for the Stella Prize, the Miles Franklin Literary Award, the Australian Book Industry Awards, Literary Fiction Book of the year, and she's already being just talked about everywhere. It was astonishing. And because I was obviously going to read it, I couldn't get a copy of it at any of my libraries. I couldn't get a copy in my local bookstore. So I think it's going to be really very exciting to talk to Emily about why she thinks that this book is really causing such a furor everywhere.

What's the secret sauce? It's the question, isn't it? What makes it so good?

What's the secret sauce? It's the question, isn't it? What makes it so good?

That's it. And that is really fun. We actually had a little bit of a chat to her when we did an in conversation with her father. Les.

That's it. And that is really fun. We actually had a little bit of a chat to her when we did an in conversation with her father. Les.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

June last year. Yeah, yeah. Yes.

June last year. Yeah, yeah. Yes.

Of course. I'm. Now I'm connecting the dots. Yeah. I left was tremendous, by the way. I'm sure I did. Thank you for arranging, les, but what a what a what an amazing individual. And what a wonderful story that les told about himself. Yeah.

Of course. I'm. Now I'm connecting the dots. Yeah. I left was tremendous, by the way. I'm sure I did. Thank you for arranging, les, but what a what a what an amazing individual. And what a wonderful story that les told about himself. Yeah.

So Emily helped him in transcribing and so forth his book, and also joined him as a little cameo appearance on his in conversation. So now she gets to have a starring role on Friday. Well, it's online via zoom and it's at 3 p.m. till 4 p.m. and that's Melbourne time. So our our lovely listeners on the West Coast and Northern Territory and Queensland need to remember that we are on daylight saving time in Melbourne, but it's 3 to 4 p.m.. You just need to register to get a link and you can put questions into the chat for Emily. Or you can just listen to Emily and I have a lovely chat for an hour.

So Emily helped him in transcribing and so forth his book, and also joined him as a little cameo appearance on his in conversation. So now she gets to have a starring role on Friday. Well, it's online via zoom and it's at 3 p.m. till 4 p.m. and that's Melbourne time. So our our lovely listeners on the West Coast and Northern Territory and Queensland need to remember that we are on daylight saving time in Melbourne, but it's 3 to 4 p.m.. You just need to register to get a link and you can put questions into the chat for Emily. Or you can just listen to Emily and I have a lovely chat for an hour.

We'll give you contact details before we wrap up and also put the link to register on our show notes, but that sounds fantastic. And for those that might not be aware, these are very, very popular. And they're also they're also accessible afterwards if you can't actually get there on the day.

We'll give you contact details before we wrap up and also put the link to register on our show notes, but that sounds fantastic. And for those that might not be aware, these are very, very popular. And they're also they're also accessible afterwards if you can't actually get there on the day.

They are indeed. So all of our conversations. So this one with Emily and even the one with les that we ran last year, are all on the Access Library website. So all of our library members can go in there. You search under podcasts and you look for the in conversations and all our conversations, including the Melbourne Writers Festival last year. They're all there. So you can just listen at your leisure.

They are indeed. So all of our conversations. So this one with Emily and even the one with les that we ran last year, are all on the Access Library website. So all of our library members can go in there. You search under podcasts and you look for the in conversations and all our conversations, including the Melbourne Writers Festival last year. They're all there. So you can just listen at your leisure.

And obviously for budding writers, or maybe someone that is thinking of Think of maybe maybe making a career of it or writing just for a hobby, but. Or if you just like hearing about, uh, a good, uh, writer and the way they kind of operate.

And obviously for budding writers, or maybe someone that is thinking of Think of maybe maybe making a career of it or writing just for a hobby, but. Or if you just like hearing about, uh, a good, uh, writer and the way they kind of operate.

Yeah. I mean, I often I'll be interviewing Emily and I'll be asking her about, you know, how she goes about the writing process, how particularly after you have such a successful book, you actually, you know, get back in there and think, no, no, I'm not a one hit wonder. I can do this. And you know, all those little demons that play in your mind, I suppose, how she manages to work through those and put out such amazing pieces of literature.

Yeah. I mean, I often I'll be interviewing Emily and I'll be asking her about, you know, how she goes about the writing process, how particularly after you have such a successful book, you actually, you know, get back in there and think, no, no, I'm not a one hit wonder. I can do this. And you know, all those little demons that play in your mind, I suppose, how she manages to work through those and put out such amazing pieces of literature.

Terrific. Alright, well, that's, uh, Friday. Uh, we'll give details, as I say, before we wrap up, where would you like to go to next?

Terrific. Alright, well, that's, uh, Friday. Uh, we'll give details, as I say, before we wrap up, where would you like to go to next?

Well, we also then have a new program, which is coming out the following week on the 20th of February, and this is our sun kissed summer book chat with our librarians. So we are having a quarterly book chat with our librarians. So for our summer edition we have Sarah Bladon, who's coming. Sarah is our manager of the library, and she's going to review two books for us. And she will basically channel her inner Margaret Pomeranz or David Stratton and sit there providing a review of that most recent read. So she's going to review two books, but also not just saying what it's about, very much discussing the author, their previous works, and no holds barred appraisal of the novel that she's been reading. And then after Sarah's done her two, I get to do one. So I'm actually going to chat about, um, Emily's rapture, given I've just finished reading that, and then all of our attendees, assuming they want to, are then invited to also do a review on the book that they've most recently been reading, or even a favorite book that they've read. And Irrespective of the depth and breadth of their bookshelf. It's just everyone choosing one book and one author and having a chat about, you know, what's good, bad and ugly about it with the idea that by the end of that one hour, everyone will walk away with at least one book that they think. Yep, that sounds great. I want to read that. That's really up my alley. So they'll at least have myself and my colleague be. Sarah's going to do two books, and then all the other attendees that are comfortable doing it, providing a review of a single book. So it's a bit like a book club, but instead of all of us talking about the same book, we'll all talk about a different book.

Well, we also then have a new program, which is coming out the following week on the 20th of February, and this is our sun kissed summer book chat with our librarians. So we are having a quarterly book chat with our librarians. So for our summer edition we have Sarah Bladon, who's coming. Sarah is our manager of the library, and she's going to review two books for us. And she will basically channel her inner Margaret Pomeranz or David Stratton and sit there providing a review of that most recent read. So she's going to review two books, but also not just saying what it's about, very much discussing the author, their previous works, and no holds barred appraisal of the novel that she's been reading. And then after Sarah's done her two, I get to do one. So I'm actually going to chat about, um, Emily's rapture, given I've just finished reading that, and then all of our attendees, assuming they want to, are then invited to also do a review on the book that they've most recently been reading, or even a favorite book that they've read. And Irrespective of the depth and breadth of their bookshelf. It's just everyone choosing one book and one author and having a chat about, you know, what's good, bad and ugly about it with the idea that by the end of that one hour, everyone will walk away with at least one book that they think. Yep, that sounds great. I want to read that. That's really up my alley. So they'll at least have myself and my colleague be. Sarah's going to do two books, and then all the other attendees that are comfortable doing it, providing a review of a single book. So it's a bit like a book club, but instead of all of us talking about the same book, we'll all talk about a different book.

All right. I'm being the devil's advocate here, Maureen. Maybe if you hear about a book of the guy that doesn't appeal, I can scrub that off the list. I mean, that's another way of looking at it, maybe a bit negatively, but a different way of looking at it.

All right. I'm being the devil's advocate here, Maureen. Maybe if you hear about a book of the guy that doesn't appeal, I can scrub that off the list. I mean, that's another way of looking at it, maybe a bit negatively, but a different way of looking at it.

No, but I think that's actually a good way of looking at it, because one of the very, very frequent phone calls that we get into the library is, what should I read? What have you got that's a new release? Or I really like this author, but I've read all of their works. Can you recommend another author or. I really like the genre of crime fiction. What have you got that's within that genre? So it's a great way for people to populate their virtual bookshelf and to get a list of reads for the new year.

No, but I think that's actually a good way of looking at it, because one of the very, very frequent phone calls that we get into the library is, what should I read? What have you got that's a new release? Or I really like this author, but I've read all of their works. Can you recommend another author or. I really like the genre of crime fiction. What have you got that's within that genre? So it's a great way for people to populate their virtual bookshelf and to get a list of reads for the new year.

And a good time to do it. I mean, people might have, you know, had their fill, if you like, or used up all their titles that they might have wanted to read during the holiday period. So yeah, kind of a fresh start to the year as far as your reading approach goes too.

And a good time to do it. I mean, people might have, you know, had their fill, if you like, or used up all their titles that they might have wanted to read during the holiday period. So yeah, kind of a fresh start to the year as far as your reading approach goes too.

I also think it's one of those things. I mean, I love going into, um, a bookshelf, a bookshelf, a bookshop, and just browsing and looking at the little promos I have on different books. And it's like an online, online way of doing that. So you don't actually go into a bookshop or into a physical library, but you have that same experience where you can get motivated to try a new book, read this author, see what else that author has had. And instead of just reading the, you know, the promos on the back of a book, which are always very positive, actually listening to people who might say, actually, I thought it was fairly repetitive. I thought it was similar to a book, you know, or I thought it was actually a bit predictable, the ending. So you get to actually have a nice warts and all analysis of the books that people have read.