For years, parents have been told their observations about their child's PANS/PANDAS symptoms don't match the "typical" pattern—leaving them confused, doubting themselves, and struggling to get proper treatment. But what if there isn't just one typical pattern? What if your child's unique journey is actually completely normal?

In this episode, we break down a groundbreaking Stanford University study that finally gives scientific validation to what parents have been experiencing all along. Licensed clinical social worker Angela Henry joins hosts Krystal Vivian and Lindsey Forsyth to translate the complex research into practical insights families can use today. Discover why having a common language for flares changes everything—from getting doctors to take you seriously to knowing what to expect in the months and years ahead.

Whether your child just had their first flare or you've been navigating this journey for years, this episode offers both validation and hope. Because when the research finally catches up to what parents have been saying, everything changes.

Read the full transcript of this episode at PANDASMichiana.com.

RESOURCES:
Surviving The Flares: An Emotional Toolkit For PANS/PANDAS Caregivers — Available wherever you listen to podcasts

Claimable https://www.getclaimable.com/ 

PANDAS Michiana https://pandasmichiana.com/ 

PANDAS Physician Network https://www.pandasppn.org/ 

PANDAS Network https://pandasnetwork.org/understanding-pandas/ 

Angela Henry, LCSW https://angelahenrylcsw.com/services/pandas-pans-ae 

ASPIRE PANS PANDAS Advocacy, Community & Support Aspire

Neuroimmune Foundation Neuroimmune Foundation | Inflammatory Brain Conditions

Mind Global Council https://www.mindglobalcouncil.com/

OCD Family Podcast https://www.ocdfamilypodcast.com/

Hornets and Hippos Workbook: https://margaretjessoppsyd.com/hornets-and-hippos/ 

Parenting Resources:

Dr. Ross Greene https://drrossgreene.com/ 

Dr. Becky Kennedy https://www.goodinside.com/about/ 

Dr. Dan Siegel https://drdansiegel.com/ 

Brene Brown (professor and researcher of shame, vulnerability, courage and empathy) https://brenebrown.com/ 

For years, parents have been told their observations about their child's PANS/PANDAS symptoms don't match the "typical" pattern&mdash;leaving them confused, doubting themselves, and struggling to get proper treatment. But what if there isn't just one typical pattern? What if your child's unique journey is actually completely normal?
In this episode, we break down a groundbreaking Stanford University study that finally gives scientific validation to what parents have been experiencing all along. Licensed clinical social worker Angela Henry joins hosts Krystal Vivian and Lindsey Forsyth to translate the complex research into practical insights families can use today. Discover why having a common language for flares changes everything&mdash;from getting doctors to take you seriously to knowing what to expect in the months and years ahead.
Whether your child just had their first flare or you've been navigating this journey for years, this episode offers both validation and hope. Because when the research finally catches up to what parents have been saying, everything changes.
Read the full transcript of this episode at <a href="https://www.PANDASMichiana.com">PANDASMichiana.com</a>. RESOURCES: Surviving The Flares: An Emotional Toolkit For PANS/PANDAS Caregivers &mdash; Available wherever you listen to podcasts
Claimable <a href="https://www.getclaimable.com/">https://www.getclaimable.com/</a>&nbsp;
PANDAS Michiana<a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fpandasmichiana.com%2f&amp;c=E,1,zc3GDyjXr-vdPgMBUXX2l3bdpimTgHntDDmCNrElzZT3IuwKstPR9MD061FpO7C5MB92Kitz0Ofp4B-Cu3PaVlZxcV_i0pEKQ1hi2692cCj3RGLp7S0,&amp;typo=1">&nbsp;https://pandasmichiana.com/</a>&nbsp;
PANDAS Physician Network<a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.pandasppn.org%2f&amp;c=E,1,nsheMF-ZLyNfeCaEVqJ8w1EbmKvUKdzaJBlkcCATXXhn1RR7VzLqiB-1AW54IN3R5ThQAxNKsJZzeoPvyrNKbz5MuyVmH1kxh5lv-wA5yS3_8A,,&amp;typo=1">&nbsp;https://www.pandasppn.org/</a>&nbsp;
PANDAS Network<a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fpandasnetwork.org%2funderstanding-pandas%2f&amp;c=E,1,oSRcOxHIeOczxNnwyEwwPsz1pezNuxPJqpUPiFBd54voMEq9LMXjCgdcVJIisUWjPQPqWNJfKhGWi2XHGL4ZmZyGB4f22A41FGq9pAE2NWnc&amp;typo=1">&nbsp;https://pandasnetwork.org/understanding-pandas/</a>&nbsp;
Angela Henry, LCSW <a href="https://angelahenrylcsw.com/services/pandas-pans-ae">https://angelahenrylcsw.com/services/pandas-pans-ae</a>&nbsp;
ASPIRE <a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2faspire.care%2f&amp;c=E,1,JctdDsly7jEemiEI4eHkwsS38NEDK_5AfMf9GLGRiJ4uUR61hWffsF133U_aI-eJROFh3PEQhDSpTUaL4kCf_kjyRbGhp3uCH5Je7UVH0Y77LHlzqG71WO_EUpo,&amp;typo=1">PANS PANDAS Advocacy, Community &amp; Support Aspire</a>
Neuroimmune Foundation <a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fneuroimmune.org%2f&amp;c=E,1,mNTMw8l4LkpxnJz4O_rajIeYPOY7MvW-P8XHdGqh8BKsYCFg9ZuQs6ehjylbvsG7h5c1XjPTljXbM2Xb3Zf_s9YX1VweL-Hoyp4Z203FHhNSBdHmaSaAt2WQbNw,&amp;typo=1">Neuroimmune Foundation | Inflammatory Brain Conditions</a>
Mind Global Council&nbsp;<a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.mindglobalcouncil.com%2f&amp;c=E,1,Lwk8_anxtG66heZOxzQuYZDgH3QjAQJsuvX86jNrlDTgefVaTKyFYw_9Gm0x06eEosqgKIc5VSijRQMFjEpfaBvhptfInfPHUa7EIKCeIZDDv2w1fFsxauI,&amp;typo=1">https://www.mindglobalcouncil.com/</a>
OCD Family Podcast<a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.ocdfamilypodcast.com%2f&amp;c=E,1,2ELpdJUDsiHm8ErbupVYFsCgz6pPqFKhiL1zxvlZR1lfxntav0ChXXeR_odXnbZQFs0d9jpyHfffvBKdDHyufmYPdk8pIHtIvNJ_pangcGQ,&amp;typo=1">&nbsp;https://www.ocdfamilypodcast.com/</a>
Hornets and Hippos Workbook:<a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fmargaretjessoppsyd.com%2fhornets-and-hippos%2f&amp;c=E,1,50iUUS-2-wkhfhPAAoe2AmQ4d7_sMTFwbLl3JS5_YQNrj-bISePqPD6KHjF-qwVRrE_6zelRR5N5u1MT_7p11UfoIrSGieTNNJFN0QE1XI7l0wrn&amp;typo=1">&nbsp;https://margaretjessoppsyd.com/hornets-and-hippos/</a>&nbsp;
Parenting Resources:
Dr. Ross Greene<a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fdrrossgreene.com%2f&amp;c=E,1,tMtE3h8P3utEznCHXLypiTXMBbuMlUihQWP357ew54WG8qfPM3dw1ktJP7IgHdYoSOh6cWKN1xjIDD0Loau8MQlcJb3QFbH0OOn4-2G-i1mp9igM7W-HPQ,,&amp;typo=1">&nbsp;https://drrossgreene.com/</a>&nbsp;
Dr. Becky Kennedy<a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.goodinside.com%2fabout%2f&amp;c=E,1,HE69LaTrRrJcaUoxf1rLbJLdKMXKS7bK5DFql5vk5yhoD0ILzjRPrmqDq9gO5YeM8iwKc8AAhPDagMzCikkZtTzYAvh0g9n-NYWPKFCY&amp;typo=1">&nbsp;https://www.goodinside.com/about/</a>&nbsp;
Dr. Dan Siegel<a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fdrdansiegel.com%2f&amp;c=E,1,M3Mk7Pn6Z8p4tl3lIC2CjWbSp-gC4O_eSsCKFj-qbonbl8QhfjSX7vmChYjULwrDzuMC731yEYz0s1lHquDvFki_LVkKdwQRwxc8rLrneiJZK4C1hY560Q,,&amp;typo=1">&nbsp;https://drdansiegel.com/</a>&nbsp;
Brene Brown (professor and researcher of shame, vulnerability, courage and empathy)<a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fbrenebrown.com%2f&amp;c=E,1,eEJAbm1TjnlhFLej380GzNo66QTcMZ0cv5rrri3j_0aN1QxoXMSzGdYG4k-rZPfHo7DJF1xykEnAW-JOTxEV5gIlh50P1B47lvMEC_MM&amp;typo=1">&nbsp;https://brenebrown.com/</a>&nbsp;

When infections or other factors trigger autoimmune responses that attack your child's brain, families find themselves navigating an invisible storm. They seek out care, but often even clinicians wanting to help may not know how. Flying Through Fog brings clarity to the complex world of PANS/PANDAS through real stories, expert insights, and practical guidance.

Tune in weekly for conversations with families who've walked this path, medical professionals who understand the science, and advocates fighting for better awareness and treatment access. You'll hear from parents sharing their diagnostic journeys, experts helping families overcome insurance coverage denials, and clinicians who are in the trenches advancing our understanding of these neuroimmune conditions.

Whether you're seeking answers for sudden behavioral changes in your child, looking for treatment options, or you're a clinician looking for guidance, this podcast offers hope, community and education. We tackle the hard questions about symptoms, therapies, school accommodations, and family dynamics while celebrating the resilience of children and families affected by PANS/PANDAS.

Because when you're flying through fog, you don't have to fly alone.

New episodes drop weekly. Join our community of families, advocates, and professionals working together to raise awareness and improve outcomes for children with PANS/PANDAS.

Flying Through Fog is produced and mixed by Tommie Lee. It is published by News/Talk 95.3 Michiana's News Channel and News/Talk 1190 WOWO 92.3 FM. A member of the Podcasts by Federated Media network.

When infections or other factors trigger autoimmune responses that attack your child's brain, families find themselves navigating an invisible storm. They seek out care, but often even clinicians wanting to help may not know how. Flying Through Fog brings clarity to the complex world of PANS/PANDAS through real stories, expert insights, and practical guidance.
Tune in weekly for conversations with families who've walked this path, medical professionals who understand the science, and advocates fighting for better awareness and treatment access. You'll hear from parents sharing their diagnostic journeys, experts helping families overcome insurance coverage denials, and clinicians who are in the trenches&nbsp;advancing our understanding of these neuroimmune conditions.
Whether you're seeking answers for sudden behavioral changes in your child, looking for treatment options,&nbsp;or you're a clinician looking for guidance, this podcast offers hope, community and education. We tackle the hard questions about symptoms, therapies, school accommodations, and family dynamics while celebrating the resilience of children and families affected by PANS/PANDAS.
Because when you're flying through fog, you don't have to fly alone.
New episodes drop weekly. Join our community of families, advocates, and professionals working together to raise awareness and improve outcomes for children with PANS/PANDAS.
Flying Through Fog is produced and mixed by Tommie Lee. It is published by News/Talk 95.3 Michiana's News Channel and News/Talk 1190 WOWO 92.3 FM. A member of the Podcasts by Federated Media network.