In this week's episode, Utah's First Lady Abby Cox is joined by Gov. Spencer Cox to talk about some life updates, their recent trip to Atlantic City, NJ for the National Governor's Association where the governor was elected chair of the NGA, and the importance of building bipartisan relationships with other governors throughout the country.

Then we talk about the 2023-2024 NGA Chair's Initiative, Disagree Better, an initiative that will address being better about disagreeing with each other and polarization through public debates, service projects, public service announcements, and other various efforts.

Lastly, we dive into what we've been reading recently.

Related Links:

Disagree Better: https://www.nga.org/disagree-better/

Them: Why We Hate Each Other-and How to Heal by Ben Sass

A Time to Build by Yuval Levin

Love Your Enemies by Arthur C. Brooks

How America Got Mean by David Brooks