Join Justin for a special episode of Father Figures as we head towards Father's Day & R U OK day. 
He's joined by David Drummond. 

Join Justin for a special episode of Father Figures as we head towards Father's Day &amp; R U OK day.&nbsp; He's joined by David Drummond.&nbsp;

Father Figures is a podcast designed for fathers, hosted by two experienced dads with diverse parenting backgrounds. Justin, a pastor and father of five, and Heath, a single parent and comic, discuss fatherhood through a Christian faith perspective. They aim to make fathering and faith real, relatable, and relational, offering listeners practical advice, wisdom, and encouragement.

Father Figures is a podcast designed for fathers, hosted by two experienced dads with diverse parenting backgrounds. Justin, a pastor and father of five, and Heath, a single parent and comic, discuss fatherhood through a Christian faith perspective. They aim to make fathering and faith real, relatable, and relational, offering listeners practical advice, wisdom, and encouragement.

Father Figures

Are You OK? With Special Guest David Drummond

In this season finale of Father Figures, Justin and Heath reflect on what makes change worthwhile as parents navigating the constant evolution of family life. From discovering new levels of exhaustion to learning when to hold on and when to let go, they explore the delicate balance between providing for our families and finding moments of peace for ourselves.

The conversation meanders through childhood concert memories (Amy Grant and Elton John, anyone?), the challenge of self-care when you're always "on," and how understanding our kids' neurodiversity helped them understand themselves better. They discuss the pressure of following up "perfect days" with ordinary Tuesdays, the wisdom of sitting still, and why becoming a "non-anxious presence" might be the most important gift we can give our children.

With their signature mix of depth and lightheartedness, Justin and Heath wrap up the season by examining what it means to mature continuously as fathers—learning to stop trying to fix everything, embracing boredom as a form of peace, and discovering that wherever you go, there you are.

Perfect for parents in the thick of it who need permission to stop, breathe, and maybe watch just thirty minutes of TV without guilt.

In this season finale of Father Figures, Justin and Heath reflect on what makes change worthwhile as parents navigating the constant evolution of family life. From discovering new levels of exhaustion to learning when to hold on and when to let go, they explore the delicate balance between providing for our families and finding moments of peace for ourselves.
The conversation meanders through childhood concert memories (Amy Grant and Elton John, anyone?), the challenge of self-care when you're always "on," and how understanding our kids' neurodiversity helped them understand themselves better. They discuss the pressure of following up "perfect days" with ordinary Tuesdays, the wisdom of sitting still, and why becoming a "non-anxious presence" might be the most important gift we can give our children.
With their signature mix of depth and lightheartedness, Justin and Heath wrap up the season by examining what it means to mature continuously as fathers&mdash;learning to stop trying to fix everything, embracing boredom as a form of peace, and discovering that wherever you go, there you are.
Perfect for parents in the thick of it who need permission to stop, breathe, and maybe watch just thirty minutes of TV without guilt.

Personal Pivots for Parents and Preachers

In this special episode of Father Figures, Justin sits down with his sons Noah (19), Luca (17), Ari (12), and Quinn (9) for an honest conversation about growing up male. Using Steve Biddulph's "Raising Boys" framework as a starting point, they discuss the three key developmental stages boys go through and explore questions about male role models, emotional intelligence, and what it's really like being raised in their household.From wrestling on the floor to navigating feelings, from memorable teachers to trusted mentors, the boys share their perspectives on everything from boundary-setting to whether their dad has done a "pretty awesome job" (spoiler: they're diplomatic). It's candid, funny, and full of the kind of authentic family dynamics you don't usually hear on podcasts—including Luca's light sensitivity struggles, AJ's take on affectionate vs. mean jokes between brothers, and Quinn's very strategic answer about his favourite parent.

Whether you're raising boys yourself or just curious about what father-son relationships look like in real time, this episode offers rare insight into how connection, correction, and just showing up shapes the next generation of men.

In this special episode of Father Figures, Justin sits down with his sons Noah (19), Luca (17), Ari (12), and Quinn (9) for an honest conversation about growing up male. Using Steve Biddulph's "Raising Boys" framework as a starting point, they discuss the three key developmental stages boys go through and explore questions about male role models, emotional intelligence, and what it's really like being raised in their household.From wrestling on the floor to navigating feelings, from memorable teachers to trusted mentors, the boys share their perspectives on everything from boundary-setting to whether their dad has done a "pretty awesome job" (spoiler: they're diplomatic). It's candid, funny, and full of the kind of authentic family dynamics you don't usually hear on podcasts&mdash;including Luca's light sensitivity struggles, AJ's take on affectionate vs. mean jokes between brothers, and Quinn's very strategic answer about his favourite parent.
Whether you're raising boys yourself or just curious about what father-son relationships look like in real time, this episode offers rare insight into how connection, correction, and just showing up shapes the next generation of men.

Steve Biddulph's Blueprint for Raising Boys: A Real Test with Four Sons

In this deeply personal episode, Justin sits down with Matthew Cheal-a management professional who's spent his career fixing broken organisations, but discovered that life's biggest challenges can't be solved with an org chart. From navigating the emotional rollercoaster of eleven rounds of IVF to rebuilding after divorce, Matt shares how he's learned that true strength isn't about having all the answers-it's about asking for help.

Matt opens up about the journey from tech school to McDonald's management, the compassion he discovered while working in community services, and why being a father requires a completely different kind of resilience than any workplace ever taught him. With refreshing honesty (and a few confessions about his relationship with clothes pegs and McDonald's bag-folding), this conversation explores what it means to be a non-anxious presence in your home while carrying your own anxiety, and why the most powerful thing a man can say is simply: "I need help."

Whether you're navigating major life transitions, struggling with fertility challenges, or just trying to figure out how to be present for your family when you're running on 25% battery, this episode offers hard-won wisdom wrapped in genuine friendship and a shared love of Formula One.

In this deeply personal episode, Justin sits down with Matthew Cheal-a management professional who's spent his career fixing broken organisations, but discovered that life's biggest challenges can't be solved with an org chart. From navigating the emotional rollercoaster of eleven rounds of IVF to rebuilding after divorce, Matt shares how he's learned that true strength isn't about having all the answers-it's about asking for help.
Matt opens up about the journey from tech school to McDonald's management, the compassion he discovered while working in community services, and why being a father requires a completely different kind of resilience than any workplace ever taught him. With refreshing honesty (and a few confessions about his relationship with clothes pegs and McDonald's bag-folding), this conversation explores what it means to be a non-anxious presence in your home while carrying your own anxiety, and why the most powerful thing a man can say is simply: "I need help."
Whether you're navigating major life transitions, struggling with fertility challenges, or just trying to figure out how to be present for your family when you're running on 25% battery, this episode offers hard-won wisdom wrapped in genuine friendship and a shared love of Formula One.

Are You OK? With Special Guest David Drummond

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