Molly Jong-Fast welcomes political strategist Rick Wilson to discuss Donald Trump’s combative interview with Kristen Welker, focusing on what Wilson portrays as Trump’s inability to regulate his emotions and the political risks that creates, especially with voters in the middle and on the world stage. They also pivot to turmoil at CBS’s 60 Minutes, debating Scott Pelley’s exit, alleged editorial pressure, and what it could mean for the network’s credibility and business incentives under new leadership. The discussion broadens into how partisan media ecosystems reward outrage, how public scrutiny differs for political figures depending on visibility, and why “Diet Fox” strategies may fail to capture audiences. They close with Wilson sharing plans for a new media and strategy firm, Black Twirl Strategies, and his belief that Florida’s governorship is politically winnable for Democrats. Subscribe to Fast Politics and listen 4x a week for interviews just like this on your favorite podcast app: https://episodes.fm/1645614328

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