Welcome to Ask Fear and Greed, where we answer questions about business, investing, economics, politics and more. I'm Michael Thompson and hello Sean ale Marlow. Michael got a special Anzac Day edition to Mars Fear and Green today and it is obviously a very topical question. The question, Sean is why can you only play two up on an Zac.
Day as in legally?
I suppose yeah, I mean theoretically you could play it at any point, but you would technically be breaking the law right in most cases.
Yes, So there are exceptions, so nine to eighty nine New South Wales in that jurisdiction, for example, pastor Law saying that you could play two up games legally on Anzac Day. There are another couple of days are Victory in the Pacific Day which is actually August fifteenth, and Rememberance Day the eleventh eleventh. Of course you can play two up on those days legally as well, but only after midday. The funny thing in this though, you can play two up anytime you want. If you're in Broken Hill in far western New South We've got Digga Adanski with us.
We have brought in an expert, a two up expert, because we were talking about two up in the office and suddenly our fear and greed colleague Adam Lang, who you know from the weekend edition, suddenly piped up with all of these two up facts, Like you just know everything there is to know about this.
It's just learnt on the job, Michael Research, let's call it.
Because you used to work in slash manage a public house, a pub in Perth.
I did there?
We go?
So you did you have to coordinate the two up competition?
Yes, and so obviously before midday is important because you know, it is a day of deep honor, acknowledging sacrifice that many, many made for our country, and so that part is very very important. And then you have all these service people, really a lot of them go to the pub, and a lot of their families want to celebrate with.
Them, their grandchildren many times.
Yeah, and so yeah, you get all these pubs and venues that are licensed to sell alcohol and on this day licensed also or able to run a game of two up. So you have you know, the paddle and the two coins. That's all you need, and a bunch of people willing to bend on the outcome being either heads or tails. Or one of each, which is no one wins.
So for those that don't know the rules of two up, there's basically two coins. They're flipped off a paddle style puddle thing, and if you get lands on two heads or two tails, there's a winner and a loser. If it's one of each, it's flipped again. So that's the rules, and people put money in and better normal well, it depends where you're doing it, but often people will take on another person. It's like on one exactly, rather than a pool of money or anything like that.
And always that's the part that always gets me. It always just feels like absolute chaos when there is just people everywhere and they're just all shouting out at each other, and somehow people just kind of find someone to bet with all better gainst and it just kind of happens and.
The money passes over too. That's what like people say, I'm not giving you the money, like it's.
Just that wouldn't that wouldn't do. It doesn't fly, I wouldn't do.
There's a lot of pressure on the person who's you have to.
Give it a sufficient throat, like you can't just sort of tip it over and have the coins land on the floor, you've got to really throw it up in the air, not too fast so that the coins go lost.
It's called a Kip's paddle and it's got a land within what they call a ring.
Yes, makes sense.
The owner of the game is.
The boxer, okay, you pretty handy.
Organizer of the activity is the ringer, different to the owner, and the spinner is the person whose job it is to toss the coins at least three meters in the air.
Good and that's right.
And if it doesn't go high enough, or if one coin goes out of out of the again and just the abuse hurled at that poor.
Person spinner a little unkind.
And it depends on how late in the day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, how vigorous that abuse actually is. But it's fascinating, isn't it. The fact that we just have this carve out for Anzac Day and for those other days that you mentioned where this is this is actually okay. It becomes a real cultural thing.
It became famous in the First and Second World War because the diggers would play it. Actually first recorded in eighteen fifty four on the gold Fields.
Oh really you no warfare required for this one, No, just have a go.
Will either of you two be partaking this afternoon in any tour?
Yes, I think it's It's look Anzac day to me is a really good day, you know, for a number of reasons, starting with the dawn service and then and then some kind of acknowledgment in socializing seems appropriate.
How about you shot full on training, Michael, bike ride.
I'm trying to catch up to a dance ski here, No chance because.
Of course you are now what only a few weeks away from your bike ride?
Well two actually two and a bit.
We've got to taper, don't you.
What are you taping?
I means reduce your training ahead of the beginning.
Okay, you can tell out of the three of us in the studio which one is not participating in the bike ride itself. But you guys are riding three hundred and eighty k's. Yeah, for Royal Far West, the Royal Country Kids.
We're actually riding for the kids who get a lesser start in life. Yeah, which obviously yeah, charity, but it's for those kids.
Yeah.
It's a fantastic cause and we've had some terrific support coming.
It's very humbling, actually very humbling.
Amazing anyway, Look, we've kind of veered off topic, much like Sean will on his bike hopefully not. Have you seen the episode of Frasier when Fraser is learning to ride a bike as an adult, He never learned how to ride a bike and when it was when it was learning and he can't take his eyes off a tree or whatever it is, and because he's focused on this tree, he just rides into it every single time. And I just have this image of Sean, you out somewhere near Burke and there's this just one loan tree and.
Just the only tree.
Sean, come back, You're gonna hit it. Anyway. I will be waiting for those reports from you, Adam from a distance.
And what about you, Michael and anzec day, how are you spending it?
Look this afternoon.
I don't know the difference compelling answers to the difference between having young kids and older kids very well.
Just it's because the dawn service is always part of the day for me, absolutely, but the afternoon. In the past, we would always go to the pub pre kids, and you would you would spend the afternoon there.
And evening and night and next morning.
But now it is it's a lot more subdued, and maybe at some point when the kids are old enough, I shall introduce them to two Up.
They should introduce you to their friends added too, up match.
Kids. This is how you play to them. We know we've been playing for years and you just didn't know about it that anyway. Look, this is a long and slightly rambling version edition of Ask Fear and Greed, Great Question. Thank you both for answering it.
It's a great pleasure.
Thank you very much.
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