Ryan Wormeli, Andrew Erickson, and Chris Welsh bring you the top buys, sells, and holds for Week 9 in fantasy football. The fellas break down Monday Night Football before diving into Chuba Hubbard, Raheem Mostert, Cedric Tillman, Jayden Reed, Jakobi Meyers, and many more names ahead of a great weekend slate!
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Intro - 0:00:00
MNF Recap - 0:00:35
RBs to Buy - 0:03:36
Kenneth Walker - 0:03:53
Rico Dowdle - 0:10:44
DraftKings Sportsbook - 0:15:35
RBs to Sell - 0:16:54
Chuba Hubbard - 0:16:59
Raheem Mostert - 0:23:51
Gametime - 0:31:33
RB Buy, Sell, and Hold - 0:33:15
Nick Chubb, Bucky Irving, and Javonte Williams - 0:33:19
Raheem Mostert, Alexander Mattison, and Austin Ekeler - 0:36:20
WRs to Buy - 0:38:37
Jaylen Waddle - 0:38:53
FantasyPros Trade Analyzer - 0:44:11
Jayden Reed - 0:44:24
WRs to Sell - 0:47:52
Courtland Sutton - 0:47:59
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WR Buy, Sell, and Hold - 1:00:30
Puka Nacua, Marvin Harrison Jr, and Chris Olave - 1:00:41
Jordan Addison, Jakobi Meyers, and Cedric Tillman - 1:05:26
Weekly Trade Livestream - 1:09:58
Outro - 1:10:14
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Hello, everybody, Welcome into the Fantasy pros Football Podcast.
I'm Ryan Warmley, joining.
This Tuesday morning by Andrew Rickson and.
By Chris Welsh Bellas.
We are talking some week nine bilos and sell highs. We'll be talking some running backs. We'll be talking some wide receivers. Were talking some guys to hold if you're not buying or selling. We will run through the gamut as we do every Tuesday. I haven't done two of the last three Tuesdays for various scheduling reasons, so I appreciate you guys stepping up in my absence, not once, but twice recently. I am back for the rest of the way, you know, hopefully, and we'll have some fun here before we jump in, I do want to talk a little bit about Monday Night football, and not because there was any one thing that I wanted to talk about, but because I was traveling yesterday and I didn't get to watch. So I want you guys to tell me if there was anything relevant, any takeaways I need to have from this game. I'm looking at the box score, of course, obviously Steelers won twenty six to eighteen over the Giants. Giants Tyrone Tracy twenty carries one hundred and forty five yards and a touchdown. Najee Harris nineteen FO one hundred and fourteen, George Pickens four for seventy four where Calvin Austin had a couple of touchdowns. Looks like it mainly a field goal fest though, So Eric, so, what was kind of your main takeaways watching this that you would want to tell me having missed the game.
Yeah, the offense has moved the ball pretty well in the first half, but nobody could score a touchdown because of penalties, because of this and that. But both teams were moving up and down the field. Eventually we saw the Suders kind of break things open. Calvin Austin had a punt return touchdown. Somebody asked me in Instagram between Calvin Austin, Van Jefferson or Theo Johnson, you need to start one of these guys, and I said Calvin Austin. And it came through, and I was very very happy about it because it was three really bad players. We replacements for Rico Dawdle who did not play on Sunday night, so or did not play on Sunday. So, Yeah, Calvin Austin came through, so I was very happy about that. Tyrone Tracy, he him the new Giants RB one. We look at the snap counts, it does suggest maybe more of a split, but all the touches were for Tyron Tracy.
He was dealing with an injury throughout.
He did get banged up towards the end of the game, so that's something to pay attention to just as we're heading into week nine. Just monitor his health status because there a couple of good matchups coming up for the Giants in the run game. So all on out performance that kind of what we expected. George Pickens had not one but two touchdowns called back, So don't be frustrated because he didn't find the end zone because he was very very close and Russ is definitely looking for him in the red zone.
That's what I was gonna say. I think we're back to not understanding what a catch is anymore, because.
I wasn't really that bad.
It's it's that bad. It's that bad where he caught it. He had his feet down there. There was no juggle. When you when you look at like a replay and you're like, okay, well I get a find. I guess the problem ultimately is what call they make. They have to have the evidence to pull across. It was touchdown, Like, I don't know what you think about, Like the ball doesn't move, his feet are down. It is everything that a catch is, and it is nitpicking that they called that some type of a bob bobble to. Incompletion, we don't know what a catch is.
Again, just the only name we haven't mentioned in terms of mainly fantasy relevant some Milik Neighbors. Thirteen targets, seven catches, seventy one yards, no touchdown, any standout from that game or seemed just pretty normal Neighbors game obviously didn't maybe not as many catch up passes. I'm guessing you know, thirteen targets only seven.
Yeah, normal, not good, Daniel Jones exactly.
All Neighbors had a couple drops too.
I mean, I think it's a pretty typical Neighbors performance, a lot of targets. Efficiency wasn't great, but it was a tougher matchup. Joey Porter Junior is a good cornerback for the Steelers, so I wouldn't be worried. Neighbors is still the alpha in this passing game.
Okay, cool, So that's our Monday night recap with me contributing nothing. I thank you guys for helping out there. Let's just into our week nine running backs buy low, sell high. I should say buys and lows, because really we can include some buy highs and some sell lows if that's the direction you guys want to take it. But this is our running back trade show here for week nine. Let's start with the running backs that were buying Welsh Who are you buying at this position?
The running back I'm gonna buy? I thought I thought it was really hard. I thought a lot of these were really difficult this week. I think Ericson picked some good names. I'm not sure that they were a whole bunch to pick from, especially as we get into week nine. I also think the trade market just becomes a lot tighter. I don't think there's a lot of like fun little sneakiness you can pull off here or there, but there are a few. And one that jumped out to me is ken Walker right now. I mean, ken Walker has definitely been a nice little touchdown magnet. Dude's got six touchdowns on the year in six games played, or actually seven with a receiving touchdown, but he's only played the last five weeks. He missed a couple of those. He has five touchdowns rushing over those last five games, but the volume hasn't been there, and that's actually something that I'm kind of banking on in this situation. He has not topped fifteen carries since Week one, you know, he missed time. They then pushed through with Zach Sharbone. But this week it really showed out in one of the worst performances, nine carries for twelve yards. He has been more involved in the passing game, but one of the reasons behind this was time of possession. The time of possession was like almost like one hundred percent, an increase across the board, like twenty minutes on the field. This team, Seahawks. They got to get the ball back on the ground. The positive is that we've seen Ken Walker be more involved in that receiving game. He's had five or more targets in four of his last five games, which is killer. That's kind of been like a sharbon eate ish thing. But I think moving forward, this team is going to have to rely more on the running game, especially you know, losing guys like DK Metcalf and just overall they've just been a one dimensional kind of passing team. But kN Walker looks as good as he's ever looking. You have to actually physically watch him. He looks great. Just the opportunities have not quite been there coming up over the next couple of weeks. I don't usually talk about trades in a small capsule of like, here's what's coming up in the next couple of weeks, but I think there are some favorable matchups. I mean, you know, the forty nine Ers stopped the Cowboys, but the Cowboys can't run. Forty nine ers have been a team you can run on. They're playing them coming off the by in a week eleven. They've got the Rams and they got the Cardinals, all division stuff that those are games where the blueprint is run, run, run, pound the ball, and manage some type of possession. I just think Ken Walker doesn't have the juice of a RB one right now in a lot of people's minds, and he might be a great second half buy in the Joe you know what we talked about Joe Bicks a couple of weeks ago, where I was like, hey, listen, he's a top five running back in the league, he's being valued outside the top ten. This is one of those like I don't think ken Walker is maybe being valued inside the top fifteen, and I think he can pretty easily crack that. So I'd be trying to go get some ken Walker shares right now.
To that time a possession point thirty eighth three for Buffalo, twenty one fifty seven for Seattle. So obviously a large disparity there. You know, ericson on Walker, was this a matter of game scripts just getting away from them? I mean, well, shit on the point that he is more involved in the passing game than he has been in previous years, which at least raises the floor a bit. I mean, if he was nine for twelve, no touchdown, no touchdown, it didn't have that passing usage, then this would have looked even more disastrous for him. You know, where are you evaluating him? And does this game against the run defense that had been had a couple of times by some other rushing offenses this season for them to not have success with that, was that just a matter of game script tour? Was there any kind of concern for you on the Walker's side.
I have no concerns for Kenneth Walker. This game for Seattle was an absolute disaster. They had two first and goals, didn't score touchdown on either of them. I think a lot of ken Walker's actual yardage is because he had to recover a bought snap and lost.
A bunch of yards. Even gained a lot of yards on that nineteen Yeah, people.
Forget about that. Then snap went back. I think he had a minus nineteen yard loss falling on that far.
Yeah.
So I hate that we can't just like have some official scorekeeper be like, listen, he didn't lose that yardage, Like why is that be?
It's like the quarterbacks being sacked not counting to rushing your type of thing, like let's have a fumble recovery.
Not pige or Also, and this is just an aside, but I'm looking at this box score and it talks about mixture Bisky Neil out. Obviously nobody really cared about Trubisky doing that. But like, I hate when you lose points like you get minus point one for quarterback kneeling, And the argument that has been made to me is, well, somebody needs to account for those yards. I'm like, why it's a kneel, it's not part. It's literally just a formality to end the game so nobody gets hurt and they don't give up the ball like I don't understand why those yards need to count. Not that it often ends up impacting fantasy performances just a couple of percentage points.
But that's always been a pet peeve of mine. So sorry, Ericson, I cut you off no again.
Ken Walker definitely a by you.
Look at what he's done this season RB forty one last week, he hasn't finished outside the top twenty one and any other game that he's played.
Now.
I know he missed two games with injuries. I think really that's his only downside is he's just been banged up. But he's already missed his games this year. He's already hit his requisite missed games for the year. So I feel good about ken Walker and going back to the schedule, well, she continues to be good. He faces the Cardinals again in Week fourteen. Week thirteen plays the New York Jets, so the schedule is usy for the next six or seven games.
We're not sure.
The Seahawks passing game DK Metc has been banged, but he should be back soon. They have the Bye Wee coming up as well in week ten, so I will keep I will come with that caveat though, if you need wins right now, he's gonna be gone in week ten. So if you're on the fence, maybe this is the time trade for ken Walker. But if you're feeling pretty good about your roster, you want to upgrade at running back just rest of season you're in the hunt for your playoffs. I think ken Walker is a strong by high.
Eric Satan is Walker a top eight running back rest of the season for you. Top ten, top twelve, top fifteen, what's the number for.
Top yeah, top eight running back? Yeah, I think he's definitely in the mix of the top guys. He's been a belcal all season long and this is just his you know, his one bad game.
I think I problem probably would have him right around RB eight range would make sense to me.
Welsh kind of the same range for you.
Yeah, I'm just saying like to I think like the top ten is there. So if you've got people that focus maybe a little bit more on this last week where it really kind of fell apart, and you're getting him outside the top fifteen, that's where the value is And you know there's another argument just to throw out real quick as well, that there's a lot of speculation we did in the early weeks and stuff like that, not that you're not going to still, you know, speculate, like you know, if we were talking like wide receivers, you know, Cedric Tillman, that's like a waiver type of guy, but that's a guy that you definitely could roll the rest of the year. My point is is, like you're going to make some of those big trades right now, make those big pushes. You really do want to have as hyper focus as you can on like the elite of the elite, Like you know, Tyrone Tracy was really great, but like do you want to trade a lot of equity and a guy like Tyler and Tracy on that lineup with the giants. I'm probably going to be more hyper focused on the highest possible return of players in trades than it is trying to you know, win a little one here, win a little one there. Like you got to make your big moves.
In week nine, ericson what running back are you buying?
I'm god, I'm dumpster diving this week, folks.
Rico Daubtle for the Dallas Cowboys, somebody that I teased last week on X about being a potential by low candidate, someone I thought was kind of sneaky coming off the bye week, and well, we didn't see him. We didnt see him play on Sunday night because he was sick. He had an illness. I don't know what's going on. There were some conspiracy theories being thrown out that Jerry Jones couldn't bring it to make Ezekiel Elliott in an active or healthy scratch, so they made up this fake illness with Rico Dawdell because they also brought Dalvin Cook up from the practice squad. But conspiracy theories aside. I still think he's the best running back on the Dallas Cowboys. As we are recording this here on Tuesday morning. There's nothing that I saw in that game between Ezekiel Elliott and Dalvin Cook that suggests, oh yeah, the Dallas Cowboys still have their running backs of the future on the roster. Dowdell was getting talked up by Mike McCarthy coming out of the bye week. Again, the illness was unexpected and it put fantasy managers in a bind. In some situations, so I think people are really frustrated with Dowdell. But now he's rock bottom in terms of his price, and he's still the starting running back for the Dallas Cowboys in my opinion, and you know he plays this week the Atlanta Falcons, one of the best matchup you can have for a running back. So I get the Dallas to struggle to run the football, but what else are they gonna do offensively? They have to try something else because what they're doing on offense right now, trotting out the dusties of dust running backs between Zeke and Cook is not working. So I think that doubt will at worst again even this season, he's been highly involved as a receiver, so I think at worse he's going to have that role. And we saw him have a good game. His best game of the season came against the Pittsburgh Steelers, a really good run defense. So I think Daddell has the juice and I'm not scared of either of those guys.
Really.
The only way I see this not working out is Dallas makes a move running back at the trade deadline or they signed somebody else, a cle Herbert type of player. But besides that happening I think it's Daddell's job right now, and nothing I've seen suggest otherwise. So I'm gonna buy Rico Dadell for basically pennies on the dollar. Also, Week fifteen in the Fantasy Football Playoffs they play the Panthers.
That is extremely enticing. Wel do you also see Daddle as a buy low right now?
I like how you were selling it, like sometimes we need caffeine and maybe we don't get a doctor Pepper, but you get doctor Rocket. He's doctor Rocket for me. He's like a store brand running back that you buy for cheap because you don't want to pay up on the big money. But do I am I actively seeking Doctor Rocket now? Not really like I know what you're doing here and I buy that. Like this running back corps is garbage, Like Dalvin Cook is not going to be Kareem Hunt to the Chiefs for the Cowboys. Ezekiel Elliott is as washed as washed can be. And to be fair, they gave Daubtle in Week five twenty carries. He's pretty good four and a half yards per carry, Like that was a recipe that some reason doesn't click up here for the team keep running the ball kind of the same thing back to Ken Walker. You know what a great way to flip time of possession is running the ball and managing the clock. Same thing for the Cowboys. Run the ball a little bit more, establish some of that. That's going to help your passing game. My worry is that they could trade for some actually maybe the guy that I'm going to be selling here, that they could trade, and that kills the value. My other main worry with it, it's not so much about Rico Daddell. It's that this team really hasn't completely learned. I mean, I guess give them credit that you did get twenty carries out of him, but no other game Dawdle has had over twelve carries this entire season. He hasn't been massively involved in the passing game like you see. If he was getting volume, I think he would be like what we're seeing out of like Tyrone Tracy or Frankly the beginning of the year of the guy that I'm going to be talking about here in a minute. So I can co sign this from a give me the pennies on the dollar back for a guy that if this team finally decides to just you know, bulk up and say, all right, let's do this. Daddle should be the guy, because it's not the other two guys. I just don't trust the cowboys and making the right decision. And I think that's what's hard about it. But if you're getting him for almost nothing, absolutely this kind of counter what I like, literally set up to say, Like I'm out here trying to get it like the highest impact players. What I guess what I don't like. I don't want to play the middle ground in trades right now. I don't want to go and buy you know, the a middle I keep going to Tyrone Tracy's just in my brain right now, but like, I don't want to pay up for a Tyrone Tracy. I either want to buy super super low on a doubtle type of player, or I want to get the slight discount on an elite player. I just don't want to go and buy Naji Harris or like sad Tyrone Tracy or any of those type of players. Give me dirt cheap or give me the high end return.
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All right, Welsh, who is your running back? To sell?
All right?
The running back that I was alluding to is Chuba Hubbard, and I think one of the narratives around is there's been so much positivity of hey guys, Cuba is gonna be alright, like, let's do this. I don't know if Tuba is going to be alright. One main reason this Panthers team is abysmal. Bryce Young coming back bad news, absolute bad news. They're going to trade off Deantey Johnson bad news because this team is just not going to move the ball. You've also got Jonathan Brooks coming back, and I think that's the worst news to it, because you have a team that is just completely decimated. Is gonna throw it in. Chuba Hubard has been the best player, but That's kind of my main point. You get this little positive narrative that's still out there that Hey Brooks is probably not going to take away. And Cuba has been great. I mean, Cuba's i think fifth in the NFL and rushing yards, which is phenomenal. Though I just want to point out we have like two of the top five rushers in the NFL that are potentially going to be on the downtick Chuba Hubbard and mainly Jordan Mason. But also like when you look statistical, Cuba is on a six week decline in Fantasy points in half PPR, where he had that week three through five top ten performances at RB down to thirty four this week. Six straight weeks he has declined. We've also seen a three straight week decline in his carries. Overall, we've seen his rushing yards go from that five range very heavily weighted between weeks two and five where he was rushing and averaging over five yards per carry. The last two games he has not cracked over three point seven yards per carry. So a team that cannot throw the ball, that is not going to have the ball a whole lot and has a dynamic rookie running back that's ready to come in, and even if it's taking a tiny bit, I just think long gone are the days of Cuba Hubbard putting up those top twelve, top fifteen RB performances. And I feel like this might be and I might be wrong about this. Frankly, my cell running backs have not been great this year on some of the guys I've wanted to sell off off of, But this is a situation where I think this is kind of our last opportunity to sell off him, and I think there are extra factors beyond his talent that are going to take away from his potential fantasy production. If you were to be traded though, that is where things could get exciting. But I am selling Cuba Hubbard, and you know what, maybe, in a world where someone is paying attention at stats, if I can trade a Cuba to go get a Ken Walker, I'm dancing and jumping because Cuba is the one that really jumps off the list as far as what he did in those early weeks. But I think we are going to be waving goodbye to high end Panthers production.
Yeah, I mean you'd have to add to Tuba to get Walker. I you know, a decent amount. But if he's like a piece in the what do you want? I mean, what else do you I would assume you would need to add a pretty significant piece. I think I think most people are expecting, like Brooks coming back and you know Walker, I think they probably.
Just view it as a one off game.
I mean maybe, I mean it's worth asking in your leagues, but I think you would need to add in like a pretty sigh. You can have it, yeah, I mean that you can't have it name ericson you know, Chuba Hubbard right now RB twenty eight rest of season in our expert consensus rankings?
Is that too high to lower?
Just right?
I think it's right. I have him RB thirty.
There's just a lot of question marks about what he's going to be doing when it matters most in the Fantasy football playoffs? Is he on the Panthers anymore? That matters is Jonathan Brooks taking over as the RB one and the Panthers. So there is a risks involved, which kind of Welsh talked about, where if he gets traded to one of these teams that really needs a running back, does he just become a star? And I wanted to actually pose the question to or actually before I pose another question to Welsh. You also look at if he does stay on the Panthers the next two games, it's more positive matchups. He has the New Orleans Saints this week week nine, that's a great matchup, and then he's got the Giants, so good matchups before the bye week. I think two weeks is probably what you have left of Chuba Hubber being a starting asset, and then after the bye week, I would assume that we start to see more of Brooks if Chee Harby.
I think, though, I know you have a question for Welsh.
I think though that maybe that's a case to trade him, because after the next two weeks, you know, he's got the buy a week lace at whatever, Like, I think people will be even less inclined to win a trade him. Right now you can at least sell on listen, he's been good, he's getting usage, and you're gonna get at least two good weeks out of and we expect and if you need to win now, then you're if you're you know, a first place team or whatever, you can then be looking to the playoffs when you don't expect him to contribute.
And also if Brooks is activated, he is there for those really two good weeks because I looked at that because you're right, like it's like bottom eight defenses in yards given up per game rushing in the Saint what is it? The Saints and the Giants. So it is a good matchup, but it's also something where Brooks has potential to do that then they have the buy and then they come back against Kansas City, one of the absolute worst matches you could possibly have. So I actually I like what Worm said here, it's maybe one more week if you want to do that, like you want to get a little bit ahead of it. But that's why I signal this time right here, where it's like there are some good advantages while Brooks potentially could get out there as well and sell. But what was your question ericson week fifteen?
This is gonna be a trade Panthers Cowboys who are starting Rico Dallar, Chuba Hubbard, and who do you want rest of the season Rico Dallar, Chub Hubbard.
Well, if Cuba is a Cowboy, then it's going to be Chuba. That would be the problem and it will definitely not be Rico's the that's the factor. I mean, it's going to get answered the next week if but I kind of don't think Tuba is going to get traded at this point. I don't know what the market is for anybody buying on running backs right now. The wide receiver market, I don't know, doesn't seem it doesn't seem that crazy for what a lot of these guys are. And I think he is more accessible. Back to your question, real quick, I would I it actually. I mean, like if the Cowboys trade for somebody, it's not Rico. If they don't trade for somebody, I think I might go Rico. I mean, that is a great matchup against Carolina for them, So I think I would go Rico in that instance.
Yeah, I did want to say too.
I know that the Panthers are obviously sellers at the trade line. They might just trade Miles Sanders instead. They don't have anymore he doesn't have any more guaranteed. No, he doesn't have his any more money left on his contract, so he's done. So teams might look at Miles Sanders as Hey, this guy was really good on the Eagles. The Cowboys are familiar with Miles Sanders. Based on how often he played with the Philadelphia Eagles. So maybe it's not Hubbard that gets traded because I mean the Panthers like Hubbard, so maybe they don't want to move him. And sure, Miles Sanders can probably be chea. I mean, no one wants to trade anything worth anything for a running back.
We know that.
So if Sanders costs a seventh round pick to get that's the guy who's getting traded from Carolina.
So a seventh round pick swap, not even just the seventh yeah, hunder.
I mean when a cam Akers get traded for a seventh round pick in two thousand and thirty.
Exactly, it's very it's very NBA esque trade where they're trading the picks in the twenty thirties.
Yeah, all right, let's go to your running back to cell ericson.
I'm trusting the process here. Raheem Mostert is my running back to sell. He had nineteen rushing yards on nine carries and he but he scored two rush touchdowns. So last year Raheem Mostert, we talked about him as a cell high I think every single show, and we were wrong because he ended up scoring twenty plus touchdowns and what are we seeing so far this year? Again, Oh, he's scoring more touchdowns. I'm doubling down. I don't think that Raheem Moster is going to be able to keep this up and do what he did last year where he's just scoring touchdowns left and right. I know the schedule is really good for these my Dolphins upcoming. We talked about it last week when I talked about a Chan as a buy, and that looks good so far through one week with Tua back, the schedule for the Dolphins running backs is really good Buffalo, the Rams, Raiders, and Patriots over the next four weeks. But I don't have faith in most of the rest of season he's even going to be the RB two in this backfield. Every time Jalen Wright touches the ball, it's super explosiveness. And I think the Dolphins know that a Chan has a tighter grip on the RB one role than he did last year, where I think it was more of a one A one B situation with Moster. In the first half of last game, it was eight Chan eleven to three in terms of first half touches. Most was basically only used in the red zone, and that goes away because a Chan is the better receiver, Jalen Wright is the more explosive rusher, and most It's really just like threading the needle with this touchdown production. So the process always says you've got to sell after these multi touchdown games that you don't think are going to sustain because of the player's talent. So I'm skeptical that Rahem Moster's going able to keep this up, and I want to sell high off of the big game with good matchups coming up, because I'm not going to be surprised if we look up and Jalen Wright is the one that's surplanted or usurping Rieheem Mostert when a Chan is getting a breather on the sideline. You look at just rushing success rate this season, Moster at thirty three percent. That rings forty second out of fifty two qualifying running backs this season. Against the Cardinals, both a Chan and Jalen Wright, we're averaging nearly nine yards per carry and Raheem Mostert was at two point one against the same defense. Now, again it does come with the caveat that Mosart was rushing the red zone a lot of the time, so that's why his yards Percaria was a little bit lower, but still, I just think that the Dolphins have to find ways to get Jalen right more involved. I think that's going to come to the expense of Raheem Moster, and if he doesn't score, he's not going to score any fantasy points for you.
I would say the other caveat is that Jalen Wright only had two carries, like, I mean, obviously nine yards Kerry also, but a small subside. I don't disagree with your point. I just wanted to at least mention that Welsh, what do you think about Raheem Mostert as a cell?
Yeah, I mean I think if you can sell him, great, I think that would be My only pushback to this would be like, who's buying Raheem Moster? Like I would think that a trade would be super exciting. Let's go back to the Cowboys again. Can you imagine Raheem Moster on the Dallas Cowboys? That then we're talking crazy. That would be I think the person buying Raheem Moster, it would be doing it in a speculative state. But I think most are as a dolphin at this point. I'm just really not sure what you get. It might be one of those cases you actually might be better with Moster than what your return can be. So that would be my only major pushback, because I think everybody on the planet knows Devon ah Chan should continue to get a whole bunch of run. We've seen Jalen Wright. Jalen Wright's looked better than most and they've kind of bounced back between them. Most are had to fumble and then Jalen Wright end up coming in. I just don't know what you can ultimately get, Like if you.
Could Rico Daddell, I don't there you go.
I don't think you can't.
You can't get rico' daddell for Raheemo.
Moster for one of the a back that is a clear number two in the system that is sharing the number two with another role. That's my pushback. I don't think you can get Rico Daddell. I don't think you could get Waiver Wires, Cedric Tillman. I don't think you could get maybe get Josh Downs at this point, and if Flacco were to be the quarterback, that would be good. My only push is what can you get for Moster or because I think this is a clear sell because Devon a Chen needs more touches. I think we forget just want to throw this out too. I think we forgot how important Tua is to a Chan. We've did so much of a focus on Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle. You forgot how important it was for h Chan for his involvement in the passing game into a liking to throw to him. He's gonna get his touches. He's going to get a Chan his fifteen to twenty touches. And then there's a finite amount between Mostert and Jalen Wright. And there wasn't a Jalen Wright last year to take away from Moster. There is this year. So if we're coming back to you know, we're poking at some of this stuff, like my tuba thing, and you're poking and you're like, well, you know you're gonna have to pay a whole lot more to get ken Walker for Tube. But even though Tube is top five or six in the NFL and rushing, I think savvy enough people are gonna like, what do I have to what do I have to give you for most I just don't I don't know what that return looks like. But I'm selling it. But so I'm in agreement, I mean complete agreement. I am getting.
Could you get off Nick Chubb?
No, I don't think so. Am I wrong? I out, like, what do you think? Tell me if I'm wrong?
I don't know what the public perception is of Chubb right now. I would rather have Chubb for sure.
But yeah, so that's the point. Could you could you trade Moster to get I don't think you could trade Moster to get doubt of.
So this this will probably update a bit during the week, since we're only on Tuesday morning here, But right now, in ECR Rest of season rankings, most it's RB forty one. The guys around him are guys like Algier, Jalen, Warren, Travis Etn, Zach Moss, Sharbone, Pacheco. Those are kind of the names that are sandwiching most Jonathan Brooks as well, those are names that are kind of sandwiching him right now.
And then we know, we know, like it's fantasy like in trades, probably not trading Mostard for a running back. It's probably not a one for one. I think we can ask you know, who would you rather rest of season? And that's where it pushes down. But then if you start talking about the equitable wide receivers, Like so, if you were trading Moster to get a wide receiver, you're probably looking at a wide receiver that's in the forty or fifty range. And I think that again that comes back to like that's the problem, like could you get Jacobe Myers for Mostert? I mean, honest with you, I'm not just So.
Let's just look at our flex rest of season rankings. The closest receivers to him, Tyler Lockett, Jerry Judy, Cedric Tillman is there that's going to go up the Sekreshod Bateman, Jalen McMillan, Keon Coleman is a little ahead of him. Christian Watson is a little ahead of him. Josh Downs.
See that's interesting. That group is really interesting, And I think what's worth here because I think the most important thing is like agree sell Mostert. So if you can get Daubdell Slam, if you can get Chubbed Slam, but also target maybe some of those wide receivers. I was big last week on Keon Coleman. Maybe someone is like, ooh, I just had this extra free thing. And Cedric Tillman and they want some running back, death slam, slam slam. You can do all of that, and you can also do it on my playbook. You can check out the trade analyzer. You can go through put some Raheem Moster trades out there, see what they look like, and put it in the comments below to let us know, because this is an agreement. But this is just a stalemate for me of what does a trade look like for most Art because I think he is the most slam of everybody we've talked about. It's the most obvious of all of them. And I just think Rubber meets.
About your boy Jennings on the bye week missing it he's injured.
Well, I would slam trade Moster off.
I know. That's how I want. I want people to do that. I agree can.
Slam slam Boom. We're gonna give it two booms.
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All right, guys, let's do some quick buyseller hold running back trios. How about Nick Chubb, Bucky Irving, and Javonte Williams ericson Nick Chubb, Bucky Irving, Gravante Williams who are you buying?
Who are you selling? Who are you holding?
I'm gonna buy Nick Chubb because I think he's gonna get healthier as the season progresses, and he's the cheapest part of this Browns offense. So you can get right now because it's Jamis Winston. Really takes this Browns offense to a above average level like we saw against the Baltimore Ravens, then Chubb is gonna benefit because he's gonna have touchdown equity. So I buy Nick Chubb because I think he's also kind of cheap right now. Gonna hold Bucky Irving because I think that he looks like the best running back in that Buccaneers backfield. Again, it's not perfect the way that he's used because they use the other guys, but he's been a standout and they need to lean more on the running backs in general with the injuries to the wide receivers. I'm gonna hold Bucky and I'm just gonna sell Javonte Williams. I can't keep going back to him because he's too inconsistent, whether he's a good matchup one week, bad matchup next week. One week, Sean Payton loves him the next week Jean Payton hates him. I just I just can't with Javonte. So again, if you can get doubtell any of these running backs we talked about as buys that are on the cheap. You can sell Javonte because he had a good game two weeks ago. It wasn't great against the Panthers. I want to sell Jamonte.
Not being great against the Panthers is typically a bad sign.
Yeah.
Now, well, Nick Chubb, Bucky Irving, Givante Williams.
My favorite analysis of all time is I just can't like I love it. That's exactly how I feel about Gavonte wob I just can't. So I'm in agreement on this, but I'm gonna flip Chubb and Bucky Irving. So I'm glad I feel like we're in this scene because I feel like Bucky and Nick Chubb. If you want to flip it like you did, I think we're in the same general vicinity. I will say I was a pretty heavy like, go sell Nick Chubb guy, and they are giving him the carries and that looks good. The production isn't necessarily there, but if Jameis Winston opens up this game, they're gonna be able to run more. I do worry and I've kind of said this a lot that I felt like this team told us and showed us what the game plan is with running backs and Nick Chubb when Drome Ford was out where they're running both of them. So I still feel like Nick Chubb is kind of capped and I'm not sure that explosive is and this is there, but it is more than I thought. And if he continues to build up, maybe there is a twenty carry game in there. But I'm gonna hold him because Erickson said it best, like Bucky Irving looks great. He just still looks good. And you know, if Bucky Irving was like Tank Bigsby in that he just ran the ball and he wasn't invested in the passing game, I might feel differently about this. But like Rashad White is not involved in the running game, he's almost exclusively his production comes out of the passing game. And guess what, Bucky Irving had more targets, more catches, and more receiving yards this past week, and he gets more rushes. He is the better runner. Tucker Bye Bye kicked out. Bucky Irving's the bye to me, right, now because whatever he did last week, I don't think like jumps off the page for people to be like, oh, yeah, he is back. No, I think Bucky Irving's the guy that should continue to get usage. And frankly, like Rashad White's not going anywhere, but everybody's hurt in Tampa Bay until they maybe go trade for like Deantay Johnson or something that both Rashad White and Bucky Irving can get some run. But Bucky Irving should be the primary guy. So he's gonna be my buy.
One other trio here, Raheem Moster, who we talked about a bit already, Alexander Madison and Austin Eckler. Well, I'll start with you on this one. Mostert Madison or Eckler.
Uh Sell sells all. This is gonna be a tough one to put together. I'm going to buy Eckler, hold Madison, and Sell Mostert. I think, okay, so we're in it together. Uh Madison is one one hundred percent touchdown dependent. There's nothing he is. I said this the other day. The Mark Andrews of running backs, Like mar Everyone's like, oh, Mark Andrews is back, He's the Yeah, because the touchdowns, like that's the only thing. There's no vollyeme anymore. If Mark Andrews didn't get touchdowns, we'd all be crying again about it. But he's getting touchdown, so good for him. Great offense, Alexander Madison horrible offense. Cannot do anything unless he gets a touchdown, So I'm saying a lot of negative about it. But he still is kind of the starter over Zamir White, so he is the hold. I can't put him as a buy. Echelare did it just because of what he can do in the receiving game, but this is like Brian Robinson's job. But I would say like he has the best potential in like a half PPR to get more involved coming off that injury. And like I said before, I'm disinterested in where heem mostered. Maybe the question of selling is still back to what I said before, what can you get for him? But Erickson sounds like you and me are together on this one.
One hundred percent. Yep, Madison, you can't. You can't trade it for anything, So you have to hold him because no one's going to give you anything you want for Alexander Madison. But I think he is an interesting hole because if he just is the RB one for the Raiders rest of season, like he's gonna have good value. Look at the playoffs Falcons, Jaguar, Saints fifteenth.
That's pretty good love, that's pretty good for Madison.
So so as long as the Raiders don't make any splashy moves for a running back, he's completely supplanted Zamir White as the RB one in this offense. We saw Zamir Whit at the end of last year going absolute tear and look, Madison was obviously disappointing the RB one role for the Vikings last year, and now he's basically doing to uh. He's basically making Zamir White this year is Alexander Madison because of him. So I think Madison's the whole echoes the buy for me. I want pieces of this Commander's offense, and Eckler remains a really cheap part of it. And then I talked about selling Raheet moster, we're.
Now talking about the wide receivers that we are buying and selling in Week nine. Some buy lows, some by highs, some sell lows, some sell highs. Whatever we want to take this direction in for our Week nine wide receiver Trade show Welsh.
Who are you buying at the position?
Oh baby? I decided uh to go nuts this week. I chose violence because people are going to get mad because this is a Ericson Welsh Erickson ex Welsh special where we come on weekly and we say buy dolphins and that's only so long that we are going to be able to buy any dolphin and it looks silly. Tyreek Hill, I think everybody bought into Tua came back. That was our first big puzzle piece and it was very important. Tyreek Hill was okay, was decent, and you know more involved. Who wasn't as involved or at least you know statistically was Jalen Waddle And Jalen Waddle is going to be the receiver that I am jumping back into and I'm wanting to buy. Had a really critical drop which probably would have been the difference between him having forty five yards and probably closer to eighty in this one. He had six targets in his return. We did see a decent target share over the last month, but just no real movement as far as yards per reception. But the eleven point three yards per reception in this game against Arizona. It was the second most over the last five weeks that we've had. We also saw Tua throw the crap out of ball over thirty times, and that's the most important thing here, and that's really all that this is about. We saw his first read percentage tick up a little bit in week eight from where it had been. The air yard share is going to need to go up. But really the only whole point of this is Jalen Wattle coming into this year's top twenty four wide receiver. It's a big volume play on an offense that wants to pass the ball a lot and has efficiency. With Tua, they lost that and everybody just forgot about Jalen Wattle. Well, now the two is back. He had that one game to kind of like re establish himself. He was targeting Waddle. I think you're going to see them throwing the ball even more. He's completing the passes. Thank you, thank you to not have to watch Skyler Thompson and the rest of the crew that Jalen Waddle is one of the most obvious second half buyes for this offense because we're just back to square one and unless you think too, I mean, there's a question about Mike McDaniels and maybe how he's running this offense. But at the end of the day, if two is able to complete twenty plus pass a twen go over thirty every single week, you're gonna see somewhere from six to ten targets for Jalen Waddall. And like I said, that one drop was a critical drop he had right at the end zone. And you know, Ericson, I've thought he just hasn't had a lot of practice catching balls lately because it's all been poorly you know, thrown balls. Now that he's going to have a real quarterback, he's gonna be able to get back to establish himself as a top two wide receiver. I think sitting somewhere between that fifteen and like twenty two range of a wide out, and I think he is dramatically lower in cost. He has only had one top twenty performance this season, and that was in Week one where he went five for one oh nine, and he hasn't even had a touchdown this season. That is going to change. There are some passing defenses coming up here. You've got Buffalo, You've got the Rams. In two weeks. That's an all timer. Oh my God. And then you've got Vegas, You've got New England. I mean, there are some great matchups coming up in the future week. So I think this is your last opportunity to buy Wall. And obviously I clearly say go buy Tyreek Hill, but I think Tyreek Hill's value is perceived differently where I think Waddle is not even seen in the top thirty six wide receiver range, especially first game back with Tuus. So I am a buy of Jalen Wattle right now.
Ericson, you can't buy Wattle because you already roster him everywhere.
No, there's one league that traded in away, but I'm going to try to trade back for him, So I'm going to try to get him back on the squads. Why I wore the the Aqua Blue because I knew Welsh was going to be talking about our Dolphins here on the show by taking the one guy that didn't improve with two last week.
Jalen Wattle.
Welsh mentioned it the lack of touchdowns. Wattle's three hundred and fourteen receiving yards or the third most of any wide receiver the season without a touchdown, yet regression is coming. This was Wattle's problem. Last year too, wasn't find the end zone nearly as much. Based on the amount of receiving yards he posts, their most at touchdowns are going to come down, and that means the Jalen Walla touchdowns are going to go up by Jalen Wattle.
So what ericson would you would be willing to give up for Wattle? Because it's a big name obviously, right, and again somebody that you were very aggressive in acquiring early on and you know are still interested in. So are you you don't even even you could throw out a name if you want, But are you thinking like you would give up you know, running back ranked fifteen to twenty range. Are you thinking you'd give up a couple of pieces ranked in the toy like?
What kind of package would you be looking to move for Wattle?
I think some receivers that are interesting, Amari Cooper. I'd move Mark Cooper for Jaylen Wattle, Tank Del there's injuries on the Texans receivers and he scored a touchdown last week.
Demante Adams. Still, I would move Cooper Cup too.
I think at Pooka is the number one guy in that offense and it's not Cooper Cup. So if he's the number two. It's the same thing as gentlemen, wait, who do you want?
What do you want?
The number two in the Rams offense? The number two in the Dolphins offense? Right, And Jayla Wattle is significantly younger than Cooper cup Is, so I think you're taking on way less injury risk. So those are some names.
Would you rather have Zay Flowers or Wattle rest this season?
I think for right now?
Would you trade Chuba to get Waddle?
Yes?
Easy, Yeah, I definitely do that one. So yeah, Jalen Waddle seems like a strong buy.
You can use the trade analyzer at fantasypros dot com, slash my playbook, or on my Playbook app to instantly evaluate how edding trade will affect your team for this week, the rest of the season, or even in dynasty ericson who is your wide receiver to buy?
Jadan Reid coming off back to back dud games last week, he only ran a route on fifty nine percent of the dropbacks two catches for fifty five yards, so he still flashed the efficiency though, because he got nearly ninety percent of those on one play on a fifty one yard catch. So I still think Reid is the best receiver on the Green Bay Packers, and there's just a buying window now because he's had back to back bad games. There's another quarterback injury. This is exactly what happened back in Week two when we mentioned by Jane Reid after he had a monster Week one game, there were question marks about Jordan Love. This is another opportunit to buy, in my opinion, the best receiver on the Green Bay Packers. If you look at the matchup coming up against the Detroit Lions, no team has been worse against slot receivers then the Detroit Lions this season. So yes, it's frustrating when Reid isn't running route on all the dropbacks because he plays from the slot. But in this particular matchup, it doesn't matter because he does play in the slot, which means if Love is under center, he's gonna have a monster game. If Love's not under center, what means you got to buy him even cheaper. So I want Read in my lineup when I'm in the Fantasy Football Championships because he has insane upside on a week to week basis, So I'll take my lumps in some of his bad games, especially if we get Malik Willison there. But yeah, that's why I like Jayden Reed is a buy.
Yeah.
Read's interesting because he is still ranked in ECR on just the back end of the top ten rest of season and half PPR despite the fact that he hasn't really had like a blow up game for several weeks. Really, I mean, if you look at his game log, you know on Fantasy Pro you can kind of see this and you can designate with half PPR. He had obviously over thirty points in week one, he had twenty three point six points a week four, two other games at eleven, and then a lot of other ones in single digits. So for as well as it feels like he's played, obviously there's been some quarterback limitations in those games, and for as well as it seems like he's played, and for as aggressively as he's being ranked, the production isn't there. So maybe depending on the league you're in and depending on the manager, even if the consensus is that he's still ranked pretty highly, somebody might look at these recent box scores and say it's not getting you know what I need out of them? Welsh, where do you have read ranked us a season. What do you think about him as a buye.
Yeah, I think as a bye, I think there's negatives and positives. I think the negative and by the way, those negatives are going to speak to why he's going to be such a good bye. It's like if Jordan loves, I don't love it. If Jordan Love's not out there, I just that's a huge negative. But I think that's going to push to the cheaper cost of him, the real negative that doesn't have like a bounce back. It's like they still just keep going between wide receivers, like Christian Watson's dead and boom he's alive. Undertaker mean, boom, he's back and he's getting receptions. Romeo Dobbs is the number one in that offense for two weeks and then he did. You know, they keep going back. I feel like WIX is maybe falling apart, but like the constant is Jayden Reid is the best wide receiver in a powerful offense that is going to have Jordan Love back, and you know, if there is a missed week or something, I think that holds against But the thing I've always loved about him is he was Green Bay's depot and they can run into rounds and stuff, and I think we're at the point where it's like they have to get the ball in his hands even more. This is like an all time Bilo situation. It's just I think multiple weeks have added up to this incredible opportunity where people can create more than one narrative of negative and that's what's so great. It's like there's a bunch of wide receivers. He's not getting the volume. Jordan Love is hurt. He's when Jordan Love is there, it's going to Romeo Dobbs. I think there's so much of it that it's like you can get I think a hefty discount. I love the idea of buying Jadane Reid.
Let's look at some wide receivers to sell now, and we'll else.
We'll start with you here, all right.
The wide receiver I'm looking to sell is Courtland Sutton. Now Sutton. I don't know why I accentuated that, but that was to give like a dramatic effect of Courtland set ten. I want to get off of all of the Broncos in general. That's my main narrative, though I will point out, like how good was Bo Nicks This past week, like I was kind of poking at everybody, like, are.
We sure about bo Nicks is a top twelve blah blah.
Blah, And he ended up getting it done. But for the most part, it has not been at the expense of Courtland Sutton. Now this week it was he had eleven targets, eight for one hundred yards. You know, we love to see that. From a half PPR standpoint, that was twenty six, but that still got him outside of the top two wide receivers. He has had this season three appearances where he has been inside the top thirty six, and I guess, to be fair, one of those was against the New York Jets, whose secondary has been kind of a sham from everything we've been sold. But there are trade rumors out there for Courtland Sutton. There was one with the forty nine ers that was kind of floating around if they were looking to try to get someone on the cheap. If a trade happens, I don't think Cortland Sutton goes to a destination where he is the number one if he stays. I just don't love the upside. I want to point out this best game he had was against Carolina Panthers, and they stink. The defense stinks. You've got Baltimore coming up, who I guess you can throw against. But I think bo Nix is going to struggle. You've got Kansas City in there, you got a relatively favorable playoff matchup. But we just haven't seen a ton a ton of sudden even in heavy target games, it's been low yards. I don't like him in the Denver offense. I don't see him with Denver having top two wide receiver upside. I think what people are starting to turn to, Hey, maybe bo Nicks is super capable. Hey, look, Cortland Sutton had I believe this was his first one hundred yard game of the season against the Carolina Panthers. I want to take that opportunity to sell off of Sutton because I do not think trades are going to be a positive thing for him. Hand up though, if he were traded to Tampa Bay, scratch everything, never mind huge massive buy. I just don't know if they're going to be able to pull that off, and I don't love the prospects of where he's at now. So I want to take this cell high opportunity to get out from Courtland Sutton and yes, Sutton over Jalen Waddle. I you know, anything Sutton plus to get Jayden Reid on both of those buys, I would jump at the opportunity, even if I had to give more.
I'm interested to see what Sutton does this upcoming week because the Ravens, you know, are banged up in the secondary. So this Broncos Ravens game checks all the boxes of a game where the Ravens usually have a letdown, with the exception of the fact that they just did it two days ago and usually they're better. They just had that hadn't happened, I would be all over this Broncos in the same way I was all over the Browns this last week. Now that it happened, I wonder if they, you know, lock in a bit better. And you know, they usually are pretty good against rookie quarterbacks, so maybe they have more success against Bone Nicks than they did against Jameis Winston. So that's in the back of my mind. But the secondary is really banged out. The whole defense is not playing well, so I'm curious to see what's typically the defense that do really well or the offenses that do well. Are the ones that have a true wide receiver one, and Sutton is not that he's not like an actual real Alpha, but he's a good player. So you know, we'll see there. It might be a better selling opportunity out this week, but it also might be a much worse selling opportunity after this week. So I have no problem looking to sell him now and say, if you miss out on one good game, so be it.
Ericson what are you doing with Sutton?
I think the process is right.
Selling a receiver that's been really inconsistent off of a bigger game.
I think that's the correct process.
So I agree with Welsh on that I don't think you're going to get much for Sutton because he's been so inconsistent throughout the season. And I think I'm a little more optimistic about the rest of season schedule than you are. I mean, looking at the Fantasy Pro Strength the schedule tool at Broncos number one ranked schedule for quarterbacks, number one ranked schedule for wide receivers. Again, talked about the Ravens. Really yes, wow, So the Ravens matchup on paper is good, the Chiefs is bad, Falcons good, Raiders good Browns. Okay, bye week, then you have the Colts, good, Chargers, Eh, Bengals good. So there's a lot of really strong matchups along the way, and I just don't think you're going to get anything worthwhile for Sutton when well, he's a receiver that gets a lot of targets in positive matchups with a rookie quarterback that's maybe starting to turn the corner. So I think that you should put him on the block and see what we can get.
But I'm not. Oh man, I couldn't get rid of Sutton. This is horrible.
I have to go down with the ship. I don't think it's a down with the ship situation with Sutton. I think that you're starting to see bon Nicks get more comfortable in this offense, and Sutton has been the only guy again talk about him being inconsistent. Everyone else in that offense has also been inconsistent, but among those players, he's probably been the most consistent player among anyone on the Denver Broncos this season.
So for those reasons, I guess.
I'll push back a little bit, but I do idea of selling high on Sutton.
It almost sounds like you might be interested in buying him if you think it's good, it's great schedule, and it would be very If you can't sell him for a lot, that means you probably could buy him for a little, right.
Maybe I don't know.
I think it's maybe one of these players I added to the forecast couple of weeks ago. Price check right, See what the courtland courtland Ston manager is valuing him in your league for if you don't have him and you need your receiver, see what he's value. If it's if it's this guy's trying to sell high on Ston, then okay, no thanks. But if this player say, hey, I gotta get rid of this guy, maybe that's a reason to buy. So yeah, that's just kind of how I see the situation.
I think an important thing to maybe talk about. Then if that's what you're saying, is like, I don't view him as you got to get out from. I'm not sure. A lot of the time we've done these shows, I've had a ton of players where I'm like, get out like immediately, Like this is an I view this as there's this big game that you have to sell him high. I don't want to sell him for equal value. I don't think that makes sense to your point. I don't think equal value looks great for a guy like court Courtland Sutton. But if someone is, you know, chopping around with those rumors or sees you know, bo Nix is popping back up and he had one hundred yard game and looks at the strength of schedule and says I got to get him. I'm going to pay top two wide receiver price for him. That's where I want to get out from him, because I think he's massively inconsistent. I am surprised the matchup rating is so great. I think it's a it's a bit tougher, especially on the back half or a rookie quarterback. But he has been coming into his own, so you know, maybe I eat that. But I think the really important thing is, like this is not a player we're just trying to get out from. Don't just get out from Courtland Sutton. Optimize off of this big game because this is probably I'm just put out here. I think this is good. The most receiving yards he's going to have in a game this season, and I'm not maybe this won't be his best game because you know, touchdowns are going to help as far as scoring goes. But even in the two games he's had touchdowns, those were the only ones where he just scratched. You know, twenty he was twenty two and a half PPR, So he has not broken a top twenty wide receiver this season. So where I agree or I guess maybe a pushing back, however you want to say it, like, don't just get rid of him, try to sell high with Portland Sutton.
So the player that I have right ranked next to Sutton in my rest season rankings is Calvin Ridley, who's also coming off a massive gay has also been horrible.
I almost put him on this, I almost put him.
I think it's the same conversation. Nobody is believing this Ridley thing, just like not a lot of people are gonna believe in the Suton thing. But if you had to pick one guy Sutton, or really if you had to flip and for Ridley or vice versa, who would you want in that deal?
I instantly my gut said Calvin Ridley. But I do think I shouldn't be dismissive of what you said, Like, if the strength of schedule is that high for quarterback and wide receiver, he is the number one in Denver. There I can't make a case that Mason Rudolph is better. I can't make a case that the Titans are going to be more efficient. So maybe in this case, I might take Courtland Sutton. But I'm just gonna tell you, like Calvin Ridley belongs in the exact I want off of both of these guys. I'm not looking to be heavily invested in wide receivers like this, in offenses like this if I can get the right return. So this might just be a heat check, like you said, like see what people are out and everyone's like, oh, you know, give me Jerry Judy and you'd be like kick Rocks, buddy, and you're not interested in it. Who would you rather have rest of the season? If you got offered for your Courtland Sutton Rico Dowdell, would you trade your Sutton for Dowdell.
It would be dependent on I think there are similar values. It would depending on if I need a running back or receiver more.
It's going to be your flex, this is going to be your flex.
I think i'd probably just take Sutton. I think he's more stable than Dowdell, who again, I think that he's going to be the starting running back hopefully if that don't trade for somebody Ericson, I'm not going to Rickson, who are you selling Jackson Smith and Jigba wide receiver for the Seattle Seahawks. I think that he's been okay this season, but we haven't really seen him hit that next gear that we were hoping to see from him entering year two in this new offense. And when you look at what he's just been able to do in the aggregate, he has one top twenty four finish this season and it took him sixteen targets to get there. So I think that the value on JSN as a former first round pick is higher in the trademarket than his actual production has been this past week, strong target share, no dk metcalf. This is a spot where hey, Jason should have a really strong game, and it wasn't. It was just a basic game. I know he got the over on the reception and receiving guards at the end in garbage time shout out the well she hit that prop, But besides that, it was a disappointing six or seven for sixty nine yards. Like this has kind of been his box score, modest production every single week, and I'm okay, flipping him. You look at schedule right, Seattle Seahawks do not have a favorable schedule rest of the season. I know they have the Rams this week, but after that they have their bye week thirty first ranked schedule for quarterbacks. Rests the season after the bye week forty nine Ers, Cardinals, Jets, Cardinals again, Packers, Vikings and at Chicago and week seventeen to the Fantasy Football playoffs. That's gross and DK Metcalf's coming back. He is the engine to this offense. So I think Jaysn has improved from last year, which I think I was very confident was going to happen. But that ultimate upside that we were hoping that he might be able to hit entering year two, well it still hasn't happened yet, and I'm not sure it's going to happen this season, just based on the eight game samples as we have of him, where he's not even been a wide receiver too, He's barely been a wide receiver three, So how is he He's not that much different from players like a Wandale Robinson, like a Khalil Shakir. Well, guys, you can probably get cheaper than JSN or value cheaper than JSN. So I struggled little bit trying to find a wide receiver to sell this week, But just looking at my rest season rankings, JSN just kind of stood out to me as someone that I think you can still ship him off for a decent return because he's been pretty good. But I don't think that the ultimate ceiling is there, and I don't like the schedule rest of the season for the Seattle Seahawks.
What do you think, Welsh?
I love this one. I think one hundred percent like DK Metcalf is the force of this offense, Tyler Lockett has been more involved. Even when DK was out, he didn't see the big game from JSN. I think the time to sell was clearly off of you know that was a game Week two, you know, one hundred yards twelve catchball. But yeah, I completely agree if people are kind of rebuying in and I love the the analogy of like the he's essentially Khalil Shakir, but those guys are cheaper. I completely agreed. Like that might be the trade window or the trade idea that you do is you take JSN with something else and you pay down for Khalil and something a little bit higher. I think Khalil Shakir is, if maybe not one hundred percent next to JSN rest of season, maybe even a little bit higher, because you know, this offense has struggled. Now maybe part of we can come back to I had that discussion when we had talked about running backs that time of possession was really bad in this game, and Jason still did put up like a serviceable Like I said, I hit my receiving yard prop with like they had the ball for like twenty minutes. So if you know, if they had had like a ten more minutes of possession, that might have equated to a few more targets. But at the end of the day, that really, to me, would have probably only made his sell opportunity a little bit higher. Because DK runs this offense are going to fant a bit more. The running backs are seeing a heavy dose of targets. I think selling JSN for any anybody that's kind of back to like, hey, JSIN, are we back, We're doing it. Yeah, I'm into selling JSM.
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Try it for free for one month. Now only available on iOS. All right, guys, let's do some buy seller Hold Wide Receiver Edition. I've got some big names actually in this first one for you, so I'm really curious to see what they're actually to go with it. Honestly, these are all guys that were kind of late first rounders, early second rounders in draft season. Pooka Nkua, Marvin Harrison Jr. And Chris o'lave. Well, I'll start with you on this one. Pooka, Marvin Harrison Junior, and Chris olave.
I think you could make the case that you'd want to sell Pooka because of the injury stuff and his performance, and you could sell him as a top eight. I will not make that case because I would like Pooka Nakua, So I'm going to buy Pooka. I'm going to this is tough. I'm gonna hold a lava and I'm gonna sell Marvin Harrison. I think Marvin Harrison's inconsistency this year are pretty in our face. Maybe the second half of the year, they're going to really have their stride and we're gonna see just you know, absolute constant production from Marvin. Targets are gonna finally go up. He sits between what they're like five and eight every single week. But in this instance, I'm going to take an opportunity on this rookie wide receiver on a team I don't love that has been inconsistent, to take one of those high weeks and sell him. A Lave would be justified as well, because I mean, he gets hit and he goes into the tent. He set up a new house and has a mortgage in that tent this year, and it sucks and you feel bad for him on it. But like he is the target monster. There's no Rashid Shaheed. He's the guy that's gonna get all the targets. Car is gonna get back. I think Olave might even be in that by territory. So I'm gonna hold on to him because I think push comes to shove rest of season if they're out there, If both are out for every single game. I think Olave outperforms Marvin Harrison, So I'm gonna sell the big performance of Harrison.
The truth is, like I would like all of these guys on my team. Harrison is such a fascinating one because he's dropped so much in our rest of season rankings throughout the first two months of the year, but we see it all the time with really talented rookie receivers, that second half explosion where.
They turn into league winners.
And I mean, he's ranked lower than Puka and olave are in our consensus rest of season rankings, but it would not shock me if he ended up being a top ten receiver in the back half of the year. It totally could not happen. Also, he has been extremely inconsistent. He had a blow up week back in Week two and then didn't follow it up the way we wanted to. So maybe that happens again this week. But again, just the deeper end of the year we get. The more juice I see out of any of these talented rookie receivers, the more I'm gonna be inclined to believe this is what we see the rest of the way.
You didn't pick bad names. You picked great Now.
They were going around the same range as each other in draft season, and their ranks roughly around the same range as each other now. Harris is a little bit lower than the other two, but they're.
All super talented.
Like I'm I'm really was curious to how you guys have pick these guys against each other, because again I see that I think you can make the case for all of them as buys or holes.
I don't really want to sell any of them.
Ericson how did you approach this with Pooka, Harrison, and Olave.
So I'm going to hold Pooka.
I think that he's the Rams wide receiver one rest of the season as long as he can stay healthy. We'll see about him and Cooper Cup and how these guys can stay healthy. But I mean, coming into that game on Thursday night where it looked like, oh, he's gonna be living on a snap count, didn't matter. He looked like the best player on the field. So I like Pooka a lot as the hold if you held him this long. I mean, I have him a couple leagues and I held him all year after I tried to trade him, right after he got hurt, I couldn't trade him, and I'm happy that he is back on my team.
So I'm gonna hold Pooka. The buy and sell for a Labby.
And Marvin Harrison Junior was really close for me because, again, like to your point where I could see both players as buys, I lean back on just following the process here with what you said rookie receivers second half of the year, this is when they explode. And although Olave has the much higher floor because of the target volume, well, what happens when you get a lot of targets to take more hits. I have concerns about that with Olave. Whereas Harrison he has two top five finishes of this season weekly. Olava has none of those. So who can win you a week? It's probably more likely to be Marvin Harrison than Chris o'lave, even if he's seeing double digit targets, because we've seen him get double the jitargets in the Saints offense and it usually doesn't transpire into these massive games. High floor, but maybe the ceiling really isn't there for him. I look at the schedule second half of the year for the Cardinals. I know the next two matchmps are Brutal Bears and Jets. They're both at home, but not favorable matchups for wide receivers. But Seahawks Vikings, Seahawks, Patriots, Panthers and Rams week sixteen and seventeen. He's playing the Rams in week seventeen, the team that he was wide recive he's ever one against overall the week, and when it matters the most, I can't pass up on that opportunity. So maybe I don't get to the playoffs because I have Marvin Harrison any busts, So I don't get there. But if you get to the playoffs with some of these Cardinals players, you're gonna be happy that you acquire them when you did. So, Yeah, I think Marvin Harris's gonna be to buy for me in a lot of a just by a process of elimination.
Is the cell.
We'll do some smaller names for the other trio here, because those are a lot of big ones. Jordan Addison, Jacoby Myers, and Cedric Tillman. Ericson will start with you this time, Addison, Myers and Tillman.
Who do you like to buy? Who do you like to sell?
Who do you like to hold Goo Dubai.
I'm gonna buy Cedric Tillman. He has two top twenty four finishes the last two weeks since he became a starter in the Browns offense. That's more than JSN has all season. I'm going to hold Jacoby Myers because he is a underrated alpha in this Raiders passing game without DeVante Adams. And I'm gonna sell Jordan Adison because TJ. Hawkinson is coming back and Addison's hearing has been moved to December third, so he's still not completely out of the woods of missing time and games in the second half later half of the season.
So that's how I'm looking at this situation.
Do you agree with Welsh.
Co sign Foresuore Tilman is the clear buy right now. I know we were kind of talking about this off air, about getting him into this show, but you know, he looks like he can jump right into that Amari Cooper roll on a team that is now throwing the ball deeper and accurately and just more comfortably. They're just going deep. I like Tilman to be able to be like a number one in that offense. Same with Jacobe Myers. I don't think it is super sexy or exciting or anything like that. But he's just going to get littered with targets on a bad team that will always be playing from behind, and we're not going to free three Jordan Addison. Everything is trending in the wrong direction for him. His involvement in the offense Naylor has been really good. We have Hawkinson coming back, you got the court date now. I'm I'm a full on Addison and I am a full co sign with mister Andrew Ericson.
Tillman is going to move up.
He hasn't moved all the way up yet because we're still early in the week coming off this big game. He's still just outside the top fifty in ECRT. That's going to change. Where do you think he should wind up? Because I you know, and what obviously I was there in person watching that game, and some of the success for the Browns I thought was other Ravens are really banged up and making dumb mistakes and dropping interceptions. Tillman was not that. Tillman was not a fluke. Tillman looked very legitimately like a very good player who was stepping into a new, bigger role. I would be very excited to have Cedric Tillman the rest of the season. I'm not saying he's like in the top twenty or anything, but obviously outside the top fifties too low. What's the right number for him rest of season?
Ericson, I think he's.
Top thirty six. I think he's a strong wide receiver three play.
I think you know, he's not gonna score two touchdowns every single week, so that's not gonna happen. But we've seen Jameis Winston fuel fantasy wide receiver ones before, so he's not maybe to the level of Matthew Stafford or Ryan Fitzpatrick, but that's the next guy when it comes to these guns, singing quarterbacks that fuel fantasy production. And it's been Tillman since the jump, right, He's told he's dusted guys like Jerry Judy, who we thought, oh, he's going to see the bigger role with Cooper up. No, it's been Cedric Tillman and just rewatching that game. The dude is just dominating on these slants over the middle of the field, just manning up over against these smaller defensive backs like at Tulfa, like he was at Tennessee when he was healthy. He was the better receiver between him and Jalen Hyatt when he was healthy. So Cedric Tillman I loved as a prospect coming out had in all my Dynasty teams talked about it with Worm after his rookie year, being is this guy roster clogger? Because I don't know what to do with him because he's never going to be on the field. And no, he's not a roster clogger. He's a stud. That's what we're finding out now that he's finding getting a chance to play so and doesn't have to Shaun Watson as his quarterback either. So yes, Cedric Tillman is a buy in a top thirty six receiver rest of season.
Yeah, well, swide receiver thirty six too high, two lower, just right.
I actually added a little bit highers and say somewhere between twenty five and thirty five, So just a wide receiver to three that would be Maybe there's more upside. I mean, if you truly step back into the Amari Cooper role and had those targets in an offense that's just willing to slang the ball a little bit more, maybe there's top twenty upside. Would point out I think Eli Moore didn't have like twelve targets in this game, like he still gets a lot of targets in Djoku is a target hog. So maybe we're capped a little bit because they've just got some weapons that they just like to move the ball through. But I think twenty five to thirty five is like an appropriate range for Tilman. And that's why you should have been aggressive, or you should be aggressive penning when you're listening to this on the waiver wire. And it's why you know, if you're in the trade market, it's not the worst thing in the world if you were. If you know someone I got this free asset and they're trying to trade, I don't think you can, you know, I don't think you can trade ricodoutles and Raheem Mostert's or anything to get Tilman. But I do think he would be a guy I would want rest of season. Even if you missed out on the wire, he might be someone that you'd be comfortable making a move for in a trade.
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