Hello, everybody. Welcome into another episode of the Fantasy Pros Football Podcast. I am Ryan Warmley, joined today by Andrew Erickson and Derek Brown. Fellas, it is February. It is the week after the Super Bowl. We are officially into the off season. How are we feeling, Debro?

Hello, everybody. Welcome into another episode of the Fantasy Pros Football Podcast. I am Ryan Warmley, joined today by Andrew Erickson and Derek Brown. Fellas, it is February. It is the week after the Super Bowl. We are officially into the off season. How are we feeling, Debro?

Oh maybe I'm feeling great, man.

Oh maybe I'm feeling great, man.

We got new shows popping off, we got Dynasty, we got draft content popping off. We're gonna talk about all these guys where they can land and stuff I do. There is no off season, like we're talking about. It's the off sea. There is no off season. Come on, let's get this out of here.

We got new shows popping off, we got Dynasty, we got draft content popping off. We're gonna talk about all these guys where they can land and stuff I do. There is no off season, like we're talking about. It's the off sea. There is no off season. Come on, let's get this out of here.

There absolutely is no offseason. Debro just mentioned Dynasty. He and Thor of course have a new NFL Draft podcast that is over on our Dynasty feet, So everybody should definitely check that out for the next few months here heading into April. Erickson, how are you feeling here now that we're like officially into the off season.

There absolutely is no offseason. Debro just mentioned Dynasty. He and Thor of course have a new NFL Draft podcast that is over on our Dynasty feet, So everybody should definitely check that out for the next few months here heading into April. Erickson, how are you feeling here now that we're like officially into the off season.

I'm ready for it. You know, I think that NFL free agency is really fun to attack because you can tie in all these narratives about this player knows guy in this coach, because essentially these guys are just looking for jobs, and if you ask anybody about their job, where they got it, how do they get their job, It's because well, I knew this guy. I knew this guy. That's why I have my job here. I knew Joe Piece of Pa That's why I'm here Fantasy.

I'm ready for it. You know, I think that NFL free agency is really fun to attack because you can tie in all these narratives about this player knows guy in this coach, because essentially these guys are just looking for jobs, and if you ask anybody about their job, where they got it, how do they get their job, It's because well, I knew this guy. I knew this guy. That's why I have my job here. I knew Joe Piece of Pa That's why I'm here Fantasy.

That's why I have my job. I knew Andrew Rickson.

That's why I have my job. I knew Andrew Rickson.

So again, it's just like we looking at it as these guys they're superstars, but at the end of the day, it's their job. So that's how you can kind of connect the dots. And I hope we're gonna be able to do some dot connecting with some of these players and teams as we head into the off season.

So again, it's just like we looking at it as these guys they're superstars, but at the end of the day, it's their job. So that's how you can kind of connect the dots. And I hope we're gonna be able to do some dot connecting with some of these players and teams as we head into the off season.

I don't know anybody who loves connecting dots more than you do. When it comes to this guy played under this coordinator in this other franchise, so they're going to be a trade target. You are, you are the goat of finding this connection.

I don't know anybody who loves connecting dots more than you do. When it comes to this guy played under this coordinator in this other franchise, so they're going to be a trade target. You are, you are the goat of finding this connection.

I have a question on that entire thought process ericson you ever played Connect four?

I have a question on that entire thought process ericson you ever played Connect four?

Big fan of that?

Big fan of that?

No, yes, no, yeah, I dabble.

No, yes, no, yeah, I dabble.

Ye, thank them.

Ye, thank them.

We went in high school. I was in a philosophy class and our big like kind of midterm grade because we didn't really like they weren't really relevant, these like progress reports. We had a class wide connect for tournament, and every round you got to you got another letter grade up on your like interim progress report. And I ended up winning. And the only way to get an A on that progress report was to beat the teacher, and I did beat them. So was that not gonna connect second grade?

We went in high school. I was in a philosophy class and our big like kind of midterm grade because we didn't really like they weren't really relevant, these like progress reports. We had a class wide connect for tournament, and every round you got to you got another letter grade up on your like interim progress report. And I ended up winning. And the only way to get an A on that progress report was to beat the teacher, and I did beat them. So was that not gonna connect second grade?

Or was this a college course? This was?

Or was this a college course? This was?

This was twelfth grade? This is this is senior high school? It was. It was super fun, and you know that's a nour education system is in a good spot. Let's let's jump into this show.

This was twelfth grade? This is this is senior high school? It was. It was super fun, and you know that's a nour education system is in a good spot. Let's let's jump into this show.

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We are doing n if L, not NFL n if L. We are going to throw out some compelling scenarios that we see happening with free agents, a couple of trades mixed in there as well, just general potential off season scenarios, and then we're going to react if it plays out this way. What do we think the fantasy ramifications are. So we're gonna do, like I said, a couple of trades, mostly free agents. It's not necessarily predictions. We've already done a free agency predictions show. These are scenarios that we think are compelling, and it's really an excuse to talk about, you know, what this landing spot would mean for a player at disposition, what a team change would mean for you know, a particular high profile player, stuff like that. Is that a fair description, you think?

We are doing n if L, not NFL n if L. We are going to throw out some compelling scenarios that we see happening with free agents, a couple of trades mixed in there as well, just general potential off season scenarios, and then we're going to react if it plays out this way. What do we think the fantasy ramifications are. So we're gonna do, like I said, a couple of trades, mostly free agents. It's not necessarily predictions. We've already done a free agency predictions show. These are scenarios that we think are compelling, and it's really an excuse to talk about, you know, what this landing spot would mean for a player at disposition, what a team change would mean for you know, a particular high profile player, stuff like that. Is that a fair description, you think?

Ericson, Yeah, I would say so. Again, a lot of stuff is going to change, changes in the betting markets, so it would be interesting to see how these teams play out their offseasons. But yeah, we gotta try to assume that something's going to happen. We got to talk about it.

Ericson, Yeah, I would say so. Again, a lot of stuff is going to change, changes in the betting markets, so it would be interesting to see how these teams play out their offseasons. But yeah, we gotta try to assume that something's going to happen. We got to talk about it.

Yep. This is this is what offseason topics look like. And again we recognize that many of these players will end up re signing with their teams or going somewhere else that we didn't predict. This is more just a fun exercise while analyzing the various team situations. Are you ready, debro Oh?

Yep. This is this is what offseason topics look like. And again we recognize that many of these players will end up re signing with their teams or going somewhere else that we didn't predict. This is more just a fun exercise while analyzing the various team situations. Are you ready, debro Oh?

I'm I was born ready, baby, I mean I'm ready like you were in that Connect four tournament.

I'm I was born ready, baby, I mean I'm ready like you were in that Connect four tournament.

Let's go oh oh, I was very ready for that. Just to give everybody a note, if they want to look at our early twenty twenty four Consentus rankings, Those and the tiers can be found at fantasypros dot com slash rankings, so obviously very subject to change between now and next season. But you know, if we reference roughly where a guy is ranked or where he might be ranked in some of these scenarios, you can check out those rankings there again, fantasypros dot Com slash rankings. Let's start with the quarterbacks most supportant players on the field and here, so as we did some of the free agent quarterbacks earlier this week, we wanted to talk about some of these trade candidates. I guess the first one is possibly cut candidate as well. You know, in some scenario, Russell Wilson might not be with the Denver Broncos, so we have him going to the Falcons as a team that is obviously kind of ready to win now they have a new coach in place, they just need the quarterback ericson. I'll start with you, what would you make of Russell Wilson to the Falcons.

Let's go oh oh, I was very ready for that. Just to give everybody a note, if they want to look at our early twenty twenty four Consentus rankings, Those and the tiers can be found at fantasypros dot com slash rankings, so obviously very subject to change between now and next season. But you know, if we reference roughly where a guy is ranked or where he might be ranked in some of these scenarios, you can check out those rankings there again, fantasypros dot Com slash rankings. Let's start with the quarterbacks most supportant players on the field and here, so as we did some of the free agent quarterbacks earlier this week, we wanted to talk about some of these trade candidates. I guess the first one is possibly cut candidate as well. You know, in some scenario, Russell Wilson might not be with the Denver Broncos, so we have him going to the Falcons as a team that is obviously kind of ready to win now they have a new coach in place, they just need the quarterback ericson. I'll start with you, what would you make of Russell Wilson to the Falcons.

I think it'd be an interesting fit for him teaming up with Zach Robinson, who's come in as the new offensive coordinator. Look Zach Robinson, he stems from the Sean McVay tree, and that's where Russell Wilson has kind of had his most success. You know, he had success with Shane Waldron in some of his later years in Seattle before kind of things fall off the cliff with some injuries at the end of his Seattle tenure, and then obviously with Denver the last two years has not worked out for him. So yeah, I think it'd be a breath of fresh air. I think anywhere that Wilson goes where there's a more Shanahan McVeigh type of scheme, I think works better for him, especially because his mobility is continuing to decrease every single year. He's not making those offscar plays that was so vintage Russ and kind of made him what he was at his peak. That's not no longer the case. So for me, I think it's definitely an upgrade for those pass catches for what we saw last year and probably the year before. Wilson's a much better thrower than Desien Ritter, Marcus Mariota, those types of players, So yeah, I think it'd be an overall boost for the offense overall.

I think it'd be an interesting fit for him teaming up with Zach Robinson, who's come in as the new offensive coordinator. Look Zach Robinson, he stems from the Sean McVay tree, and that's where Russell Wilson has kind of had his most success. You know, he had success with Shane Waldron in some of his later years in Seattle before kind of things fall off the cliff with some injuries at the end of his Seattle tenure, and then obviously with Denver the last two years has not worked out for him. So yeah, I think it'd be a breath of fresh air. I think anywhere that Wilson goes where there's a more Shanahan McVeigh type of scheme, I think works better for him, especially because his mobility is continuing to decrease every single year. He's not making those offscar plays that was so vintage Russ and kind of made him what he was at his peak. That's not no longer the case. So for me, I think it's definitely an upgrade for those pass catches for what we saw last year and probably the year before. Wilson's a much better thrower than Desien Ritter, Marcus Mariota, those types of players, So yeah, I think it'd be an overall boost for the offense overall.

Deepro is Atlanta the most compelling spot for a quarterback to land in terms of fantasy just given that they have again not only the new coaching staff, an offensive coordinator from the McVeigh tree, but Drake London and Bjeon Robinson and Kyle Pitts. I mean, this is a very enticing landing spot for any quarterback to go.

Deepro is Atlanta the most compelling spot for a quarterback to land in terms of fantasy just given that they have again not only the new coaching staff, an offensive coordinator from the McVeigh tree, but Drake London and Bjeon Robinson and Kyle Pitts. I mean, this is a very enticing landing spot for any quarterback to go.

I think the two landing spots we're going to cover here with the quarterbacks that we're going to talk about are the two landing spots that I'll want to see guys go to. Those are the two most compelling. And when you want to talk about like the overall system, the skilled players involved and stuff, and a lot of the similar thoughts with Ericson, I'm just gonna echo here. With Robinson coming over, it's definitely a push up as well, as you know, with Arthur Smith leaving, I think we're gonna at least see a neutral passing rate somewhere around league average. The Rams last year we're seventeenth Atlanta, because everybody probably already knows this, they were bottom five, they were thirty first in neutral passing rates. So if we're talking about the quarterback up grade, plus the scheme changes its wheels up for everybody, Russ included, Drake London is the guy that I specifically want to highlight here because I've been on record and I'm still gonna say it here. If you give Drake London aw like just league average quarterback play, which Desmond Ritter has never come close to that, neither is Marcus Mario.

I think the two landing spots we're going to cover here with the quarterbacks that we're going to talk about are the two landing spots that I'll want to see guys go to. Those are the two most compelling. And when you want to talk about like the overall system, the skilled players involved and stuff, and a lot of the similar thoughts with Ericson, I'm just gonna echo here. With Robinson coming over, it's definitely a push up as well, as you know, with Arthur Smith leaving, I think we're gonna at least see a neutral passing rate somewhere around league average. The Rams last year we're seventeenth Atlanta, because everybody probably already knows this, they were bottom five, they were thirty first in neutral passing rates. So if we're talking about the quarterback up grade, plus the scheme changes its wheels up for everybody, Russ included, Drake London is the guy that I specifically want to highlight here because I've been on record and I'm still gonna say it here. If you give Drake London aw like just league average quarterback play, which Desmond Ritter has never come close to that, neither is Marcus Mario.

I'm sorry, but it's true.

I'm sorry, but it's true.

And Taylor Heineke same thing, below average quarterback play all the way through. If you give him league average quarterback play. If you give the Atlanta Falcons at least league average neutral passing rate, Drake London's catching ninety five to one hundred balls this year, It's gonna freaking happen. He is that type of player. He's in Alpha. He's proved it time and time again, both with deeper metrics. I know the counting stats haven't been there, but again we're talking about the passing volume hasn't been there and the quarterback play has been terrible. So adding Russell Wilson to this offense, I will I will already be ranking Drake London based off of we think that a quarterback up rate is coming. If it were to be Russell Wilson, my rank on Drake London will be aggressive this year.

And Taylor Heineke same thing, below average quarterback play all the way through. If you give him league average quarterback play. If you give the Atlanta Falcons at least league average neutral passing rate, Drake London's catching ninety five to one hundred balls this year, It's gonna freaking happen. He is that type of player. He's in Alpha. He's proved it time and time again, both with deeper metrics. I know the counting stats haven't been there, but again we're talking about the passing volume hasn't been there and the quarterback play has been terrible. So adding Russell Wilson to this offense, I will I will already be ranking Drake London based off of we think that a quarterback up rate is coming. If it were to be Russell Wilson, my rank on Drake London will be aggressive this year.

Ericson quickly if Russell Wilson ends up in Atlanta. What do you think about betting on the Falcons to win the South next year?

Ericson quickly if Russell Wilson ends up in Atlanta. What do you think about betting on the Falcons to win the South next year?

To win the South last year?

To win the South last year?

So running back run back Betty doubling down, Yeah, because I mean, I'm not gonna bet on the Buccaneers.

So running back run back Betty doubling down, Yeah, because I mean, I'm not gonna bet on the Buccaneers.

I'm not gonna bet on the Saints. So yeah, we did probably come down between the Falcons and potentially the Panthers, who will probably get the best odds on with Carolinas because again that worked this past year. You just wrote on the team that has the longest odde and that was tam Bay Buccaneers and they won the weakest division. So from value perspective, yeah, probably the Falcons and the Panthers would be the two teams I'd be looking at, Debro.

I'm not gonna bet on the Saints. So yeah, we did probably come down between the Falcons and potentially the Panthers, who will probably get the best odds on with Carolinas because again that worked this past year. You just wrote on the team that has the longest odde and that was tam Bay Buccaneers and they won the weakest division. So from value perspective, yeah, probably the Falcons and the Panthers would be the two teams I'd be looking at, Debro.

I'll let you kind of make the pitch here for the other quarterback. We're talking about a guy that, based on all the evidence, seems extremely likely to be traded. It's justin fields. You are the fields guy to make the pitch for why you want him to end up in our destination.

I'll let you kind of make the pitch here for the other quarterback. We're talking about a guy that, based on all the evidence, seems extremely likely to be traded. It's justin fields. You are the fields guy to make the pitch for why you want him to end up in our destination.

So as much shade as I've given Arthur Smith as a head coach in Atlanta.

So as much shade as I've given Arthur Smith as a head coach in Atlanta.

We could be kind of rewind like there.

We could be kind of rewind like there.

Are receipts out there where I've given Arthur Smith a lot of love as an offensive coordinator.

Are receipts out there where I've given Arthur Smith a lot of love as an offensive coordinator.

He's done a lot of smart things.

He's done a lot of smart things.

It's just can he get out of his own way, but a lot of the parts and pieces about how Arthur Smith designs an offense, there's a lot of good things there, especially if you look at play action and looking at play action rates last year Desmond Ritter was third and play action dropback rate you look at field seventeenth. More play action for a passing attack is never a bad thing as well as you marry this with just fields. We know the mobility is there, and I've been higher on the passing acumen than a lot of people because if you look at different parts and pieces of when he's played extremely well and I'm not a fan of lou Getzy, but putting him into a competent system, adding more play action for a quarterback that was fifteenth in yards per attempt difference last year on play action dropbacks versus non play action dropbacks, it's going to be a perfect hand and glove fit for the type of scheme that Arthur Smith wants to run. With all the play action and plus what we've already seen him do in elevating. No, he didn't elevate Desmond Ritter as a quarterback, but just because unfortunately, I think that the level of quarterback play you can only have it. It's elevated so much between him and Heinecke and Mariota, but we've seen him elevate quarterback play with Ryan Tannehill. So as much as I have been really hard on Arthur Smith as a head coach, I like a lot of the things that he does as an offensive coordinator. We might still be pulling our hair out of oh is it a is Pat frim It's going to score touchdowns this week? Or oh, dear Lord, here come Darnell Washington's seven touchdowns incoming because of the John new Smith Corlarry But for Justin Fields, it'd be great stuff man Like right now in my ranks, right now, not knowing his future landing spot, I have Justin Fields as my QB six And people might say that's that's aggressive, But how he's done this over multiple seasons where we've seen top three, top like number one quarterback overall upside in various weeks. Ranking him as a mid range QB one is not aggressive.

It's just can he get out of his own way, but a lot of the parts and pieces about how Arthur Smith designs an offense, there's a lot of good things there, especially if you look at play action and looking at play action rates last year Desmond Ritter was third and play action dropback rate you look at field seventeenth. More play action for a passing attack is never a bad thing as well as you marry this with just fields. We know the mobility is there, and I've been higher on the passing acumen than a lot of people because if you look at different parts and pieces of when he's played extremely well and I'm not a fan of lou Getzy, but putting him into a competent system, adding more play action for a quarterback that was fifteenth in yards per attempt difference last year on play action dropbacks versus non play action dropbacks, it's going to be a perfect hand and glove fit for the type of scheme that Arthur Smith wants to run. With all the play action and plus what we've already seen him do in elevating. No, he didn't elevate Desmond Ritter as a quarterback, but just because unfortunately, I think that the level of quarterback play you can only have it. It's elevated so much between him and Heinecke and Mariota, but we've seen him elevate quarterback play with Ryan Tannehill. So as much as I have been really hard on Arthur Smith as a head coach, I like a lot of the things that he does as an offensive coordinator. We might still be pulling our hair out of oh is it a is Pat frim It's going to score touchdowns this week? Or oh, dear Lord, here come Darnell Washington's seven touchdowns incoming because of the John new Smith Corlarry But for Justin Fields, it'd be great stuff man Like right now in my ranks, right now, not knowing his future landing spot, I have Justin Fields as my QB six And people might say that's that's aggressive, But how he's done this over multiple seasons where we've seen top three, top like number one quarterback overall upside in various weeks. Ranking him as a mid range QB one is not aggressive.

Ericson what do you think about that ranking for Fields while we still don't know his landing spot, and subsequently, where do you think you'd be ranking him if he does end up in Pittsburgh.

Ericson what do you think about that ranking for Fields while we still don't know his landing spot, and subsequently, where do you think you'd be ranking him if he does end up in Pittsburgh.

I think I have him higher than debro does. I think I have him on back five four. It's just like comes down to the rushing and the way that Justin Fields wins is with his legs. Like any team that trades for him is going to use his legs. They'd be stupid not to, like, why would he trade for this guy when we know his best weapon his legs? And when you trade for him, you don't necessarily need to invest a long term contract in him, so you're not necessarily worried about, oh, we have to send this guy to a long term deal and now we have to protect him. We can't have him run, et cetera. When it's like, look, Josh Allen signed a long term contract and he's still running because it makes him good. So embrace that the new team. I think in this case, the Steelers would definite embrace. They already talked about, yeah, we want to run the football, Okay, so how do you take the ball out of the air? You get a Bob a quarterback and now you got justin fields in there. So look, I think that deebro was accurate about talking about Arthur Smith. You have to remove what he did as a head coach and you have to isolate what he's done as an officeive coordinator, which is different because he doesn't have to deal with the oh, why is he bijon playing enough? It's like that's not my job, Like I have to run. I'm calling the plays on offense, so it's up to Mike tom And to decide who's playing when, Like that's his call, so ask the head coach. So it's like one last thing that Smith has to worry about. He can just focus on the offense. We saw him do it in Tennessee with a run heavy offense and he unlocked Bryan Tannehill's ceiling as an uber efficient passer Ran Tannell in twenty nine, team was second and fantasy points per drop back, and even in twenty twenty two with Marcus Mariota fifth and fantasy points per dropbacks. We've already seen Arthur Smith have a very mobile, driven quarterback in Mariota in multiple stints be productive and efficient. So again I'm not concerned about the passing volume for Pittsburgh. It's probably not going to be a ton, but Field is going to be able to be efficient. He has good weapons, He's going to use his legs. So last year Fields was fifth and fantasy points for dropback in an offense that we had a lot of question marks about. So yeah, I would be confident ranking him as a top five fantasy quarterback. And there's no way, at least in my opinion, that you're going to have to draft him as a top five fantasy quarterback because of the rhetoric, the narrative around Fields. So we can't throw out it's like, well, we played fantasy football, so it's a different game. You have to acknowledge that that it matters so much of his rushing. After Week four he was averaging twenty two fantasy points per game. So again, he's gonna have a couple of these dudes where was like, for some reason he just doesn't run in a certain game. But once you get those out of the way and he's running, he's going to be put up fantasy points.

I think I have him higher than debro does. I think I have him on back five four. It's just like comes down to the rushing and the way that Justin Fields wins is with his legs. Like any team that trades for him is going to use his legs. They'd be stupid not to, like, why would he trade for this guy when we know his best weapon his legs? And when you trade for him, you don't necessarily need to invest a long term contract in him, so you're not necessarily worried about, oh, we have to send this guy to a long term deal and now we have to protect him. We can't have him run, et cetera. When it's like, look, Josh Allen signed a long term contract and he's still running because it makes him good. So embrace that the new team. I think in this case, the Steelers would definite embrace. They already talked about, yeah, we want to run the football, Okay, so how do you take the ball out of the air? You get a Bob a quarterback and now you got justin fields in there. So look, I think that deebro was accurate about talking about Arthur Smith. You have to remove what he did as a head coach and you have to isolate what he's done as an officeive coordinator, which is different because he doesn't have to deal with the oh, why is he bijon playing enough? It's like that's not my job, Like I have to run. I'm calling the plays on offense, so it's up to Mike tom And to decide who's playing when, Like that's his call, so ask the head coach. So it's like one last thing that Smith has to worry about. He can just focus on the offense. We saw him do it in Tennessee with a run heavy offense and he unlocked Bryan Tannehill's ceiling as an uber efficient passer Ran Tannell in twenty nine, team was second and fantasy points per drop back, and even in twenty twenty two with Marcus Mariota fifth and fantasy points per dropbacks. We've already seen Arthur Smith have a very mobile, driven quarterback in Mariota in multiple stints be productive and efficient. So again I'm not concerned about the passing volume for Pittsburgh. It's probably not going to be a ton, but Field is going to be able to be efficient. He has good weapons, He's going to use his legs. So last year Fields was fifth and fantasy points for dropback in an offense that we had a lot of question marks about. So yeah, I would be confident ranking him as a top five fantasy quarterback. And there's no way, at least in my opinion, that you're going to have to draft him as a top five fantasy quarterback because of the rhetoric, the narrative around Fields. So we can't throw out it's like, well, we played fantasy football, so it's a different game. You have to acknowledge that that it matters so much of his rushing. After Week four he was averaging twenty two fantasy points per game. So again, he's gonna have a couple of these dudes where was like, for some reason he just doesn't run in a certain game. But once you get those out of the way and he's running, he's going to be put up fantasy points.

Deepro do you just like wake up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat having nightmare about him going to the Raiders and being reunited with Luke Getzy.

Deepro do you just like wake up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat having nightmare about him going to the Raiders and being reunited with Luke Getzy.

Oh, that's one of the things that were I think that there's no chance that that happens. I mean, looking at Luke Getsy in that type of marriage, you have to believe as soon as Luke Getzy got got in the building and he's like, Okay.

Oh, that's one of the things that were I think that there's no chance that that happens. I mean, looking at Luke Getsy in that type of marriage, you have to believe as soon as Luke Getzy got got in the building and he's like, Okay.

We're not trading for feet.

We're not trading for feet.

From the suit.

From the suit.

Yes, stay exactly, I disagree.

Yes, stay exactly, I disagree.

Oh you think there's gonna be a reuniting Yeah. No.

Oh you think there's gonna be a reuniting Yeah. No.

And again I was, you know before I kind of dug into it a little bit more. It's kind of looking at Fields in his potential landing spots. You know, I kind of thought the same thing. It's like, oh, he must hate Getsy. But like I was reading an article from for the week eighteen game, and Getsy was glowingly talking about how he believes in justin Fields like and that's something that I think is really important for a quarterback like Fields, who he needs the offensive coaching staff to buy into him, like I need you to believe in me. Like clearly they obviously had growing pains, but again, it's still a young quarterback. It's a guy that has not been offensive corner for that long. So yeah, I know we're talking about him landing to the Steelers here and they're the favorites, But really I would not be surprised if he does go to the Raiders because Luke Getsy, at least from what I was reading, believes in Justin Fields and that's something that should not be undersold, that this offensive play caller believes in me as a quarterback and that I can take a development and take another step. And it's also a system he knows, at least we saw. Look, if it wasn't for that injury Justin Fields had with his thumb, this season could have played out way different, Like he could have progressed much sooner and much faster. But then there was like a delay in the middle of the game of the season where he was out for a month without a thumb injury a handager, so he couldn't. It's so I think the season could have play out differently for Justin Fields as a passer. And again, despite all the downturn, he still did progress as a passer. He was better this past year than the year before, So I wouldn't rule it again, not saying you guys are wrong, but I initially thought the same thing, was like, oh, there's no way's going to the Raiders, but after Dug Moore into it, it was like, no, I wouldn't have r.

And again I was, you know before I kind of dug into it a little bit more. It's kind of looking at Fields in his potential landing spots. You know, I kind of thought the same thing. It's like, oh, he must hate Getsy. But like I was reading an article from for the week eighteen game, and Getsy was glowingly talking about how he believes in justin Fields like and that's something that I think is really important for a quarterback like Fields, who he needs the offensive coaching staff to buy into him, like I need you to believe in me. Like clearly they obviously had growing pains, but again, it's still a young quarterback. It's a guy that has not been offensive corner for that long. So yeah, I know we're talking about him landing to the Steelers here and they're the favorites, But really I would not be surprised if he does go to the Raiders because Luke Getsy, at least from what I was reading, believes in Justin Fields and that's something that should not be undersold, that this offensive play caller believes in me as a quarterback and that I can take a development and take another step. And it's also a system he knows, at least we saw. Look, if it wasn't for that injury Justin Fields had with his thumb, this season could have played out way different, Like he could have progressed much sooner and much faster. But then there was like a delay in the middle of the game of the season where he was out for a month without a thumb injury a handager, so he couldn't. It's so I think the season could have play out differently for Justin Fields as a passer. And again, despite all the downturn, he still did progress as a passer. He was better this past year than the year before, So I wouldn't rule it again, not saying you guys are wrong, but I initially thought the same thing, was like, oh, there's no way's going to the Raiders, but after Dug Moore into it, it was like, no, I wouldn't have r.

So I also do kind of think though that like, sometimes it's just time for a change, and I just feel like we've seen what this looks like, and maybe it's through no one's specific's fault of their own, but I just kind of feel like it's best for everybody to have kind of a clean slate for both guys, right, Debro, Yeah.

So I also do kind of think though that like, sometimes it's just time for a change, and I just feel like we've seen what this looks like, and maybe it's through no one's specific's fault of their own, but I just kind of feel like it's best for everybody to have kind of a clean slate for both guys, right, Debro, Yeah.

I mean I think a clean slate is what you're looking for. But I do want to highlight this because I don't think we've touched on this enough here. Regardless of wherever he goes, and let's throw the Raiders into this mix. If he goes with the Raiders, he goes to the Steelers, can we say that confidently that those are both the best surrounding cast of skilled players he's ever played with. I mean, you want to talk about Adams Myers and Michael Mayer whoever?

I mean I think a clean slate is what you're looking for. But I do want to highlight this because I don't think we've touched on this enough here. Regardless of wherever he goes, and let's throw the Raiders into this mix. If he goes with the Raiders, he goes to the Steelers, can we say that confidently that those are both the best surrounding cast of skilled players he's ever played with. I mean, you want to talk about Adams Myers and Michael Mayer whoever?

They have multiple weapons?

They have multiple weapons?

Yes, nobody, No, wait, Cook can do some things, but I think he's not a guy that.

Yes, nobody, No, wait, Cook can do some things, but I think he's not a guy that.

Anybody like. We gave him one guy. We don't think.

Anybody like. We gave him one guy. We don't think.

There's a team he could go to that wouldn't be an improvement over what he's had. I mean, would be an improvement in Pittsburgh, Vegas. I don't think there is a team that is reasonably looking for a quarterback that wouldn't.

There's a team he could go to that wouldn't be an improvement over what he's had. I mean, would be an improvement in Pittsburgh, Vegas. I don't think there is a team that is reasonably looking for a quarterback that wouldn't.

Be interreed would.

Be interreed would.

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God let's move to the wide receivers here. We'll start with Mike Evans to the Kansas City Chiefs. This is a connection that we are not the only ones to think about that possibility, given what we've seen from the receivers in Kansas City this season. Of course, it didn't matter with them winning the Super Bowl, but obviously they're going to look to improve that position here in the off season. And Mike Evans, future Hall of Famer, just consistently excellent every single year in Tampa Bay. Debra, I'll start with you, how big would this be for Mike Evans if you landed up in Kansas City this offseason.

God let's move to the wide receivers here. We'll start with Mike Evans to the Kansas City Chiefs. This is a connection that we are not the only ones to think about that possibility, given what we've seen from the receivers in Kansas City this season. Of course, it didn't matter with them winning the Super Bowl, but obviously they're going to look to improve that position here in the off season. And Mike Evans, future Hall of Famer, just consistently excellent every single year in Tampa Bay. Debra, I'll start with you, how big would this be for Mike Evans if you landed up in Kansas City this offseason.

I would make sure that I above consensus, like firmly, like you could see top five upside from Mike Evans. And now that gets insane. I mean, we just saw what he did the past season with Baker Mayfield. Now you're gonna marry him. And I'll throw this out here. If you look at Patrick Mahomes's deep ball stats through last year, he was pretty bad as a deep ball passer. Regardless of whatever you look at like how to act your throw rates, cpoe, whatever you want to pull up, he was not a good And I understand that like some contexts as far as the downfill weapons for Mahomes, but the deeper metrics that that point to it, he was not a good deep ball passer.

I would make sure that I above consensus, like firmly, like you could see top five upside from Mike Evans. And now that gets insane. I mean, we just saw what he did the past season with Baker Mayfield. Now you're gonna marry him. And I'll throw this out here. If you look at Patrick Mahomes's deep ball stats through last year, he was pretty bad as a deep ball passer. Regardless of whatever you look at like how to act your throw rates, cpoe, whatever you want to pull up, he was not a good And I understand that like some contexts as far as the downfill weapons for Mahomes, but the deeper metrics that that point to it, he was not a good deep ball passer.

But if you go back to the two seasons.

But if you go back to the two seasons.

Prior to that, ninth and twelfth and Cpoe on targets twenty or more yards down the field. So that's where Mike Evans we know, makes his money and as well as giving Patrick Mahomes another legitimate red zone threat, because right now you got Travis Kelcey and then you got Patrick Mahomes pulling a rabbit out of his hat, like every single time they get inside the twenty. Uh No, when they get inside the twenty, if they get Mike Evans, it's either Kelsey or it's Mike.

Prior to that, ninth and twelfth and Cpoe on targets twenty or more yards down the field. So that's where Mike Evans we know, makes his money and as well as giving Patrick Mahomes another legitimate red zone threat, because right now you got Travis Kelcey and then you got Patrick Mahomes pulling a rabbit out of his hat, like every single time they get inside the twenty. Uh No, when they get inside the twenty, if they get Mike Evans, it's either Kelsey or it's Mike.

Evans times baby.

Evans times baby.

And we could see a season out of Mike Evans where he scores twelve to fifteen touchdowns and I don't think that's insane because he showed no fall off last year. He showed that he has plenty left in the tank and had I had concerns going into not only was the Mayfield stuff, but going into last season some of his deeper metrics. But it looks like from what we saw between Baker Mayfield and the last season of Tom Brady, some of those numbers might have been tied more to Tom Brady and not any kind of fallof from Mike Evans.

And we could see a season out of Mike Evans where he scores twelve to fifteen touchdowns and I don't think that's insane because he showed no fall off last year. He showed that he has plenty left in the tank and had I had concerns going into not only was the Mayfield stuff, but going into last season some of his deeper metrics. But it looks like from what we saw between Baker Mayfield and the last season of Tom Brady, some of those numbers might have been tied more to Tom Brady and not any kind of fallof from Mike Evans.

So wheels up for me.

So wheels up for me.

Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned the red zone stuff ericson. I want to pitch this to you, but do you think that adding Mike Evans would hurt Travis Kelsey's I guess it's sort of flawed analysis because they're obviously they're stylistically different, but they're both big bodied and they're both good in the red zone. So if Mike Evans is getting thirteen touchdowns, which is what he had last year, he has ninety four touchdowns in his career, Like, he is a guy that is very well used in the red zone, and I assume would be in Kansas City as well. So does that kind of knock Kelsey? Does it knock Pachecko? Maybe not getting as many rushing touchdowns? You know? How does this sort of play out for the rest of the Chiefs that are already there?

Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned the red zone stuff ericson. I want to pitch this to you, but do you think that adding Mike Evans would hurt Travis Kelsey's I guess it's sort of flawed analysis because they're obviously they're stylistically different, but they're both big bodied and they're both good in the red zone. So if Mike Evans is getting thirteen touchdowns, which is what he had last year, he has ninety four touchdowns in his career, Like, he is a guy that is very well used in the red zone, and I assume would be in Kansas City as well. So does that kind of knock Kelsey? Does it knock Pachecko? Maybe not getting as many rushing touchdowns? You know? How does this sort of play out for the rest of the Chiefs that are already there?

Yeah, I think that you're accurate with that. I mean, it's gonna be all the fantasy points are going to go to Patch Mahomes's arm and not the running backs and not Travis kelcey, because that's how Travis Kelsey has been so dominant. His red zone role has been elite at tight end. At the tight end position, again, even in a down year, he still had like eight touchdowns because he's the number one red zone target. That's not gonna be the case of Mike Evans is a Chief And it's funny. I just kind of like this kind of just popped in my head. But this whole season for the Chiefs has really reminded me a lot of the two thousand and six Patriots. Now that team didn't win the Super Bowl, but it was a team that was very undermanned, made all the way to the AFC Championship game, should not have made it there. But then they realized, hey, we did not give Brady enough weapons, Like we should not have made it this far, and the Chiefs are lucky they won the Super Bowl. Like again, this team was down and out, but every other team just laid an egg when they got the chance to try and play the Chiefs, like it just didn't work out. Like the chief should not have won the Super Bowl this year based on the offensive personnel. Obviously their defense was elite. They have Mahomes, but they this was a year they shouldn't have expected to win, but they did so. I think that they are going to be aggressively aggressively buying receivers, whether it's in the draft, or three free agency and Mike Evans, to me, this reminds me of when the Patriots traded for Randy Moss, Like they were like, no, we're sick of this. We need to go get our guy, the best wide receiver we can find. And Randy Moss was thirty years old, and then what did you do? Gwent out caught twenty three touchdowns in two thousand and seven. So the people talking about three peats, I'm looking at the Chiefs like, hey, why can't they go undefeated? Like that should be what they're striving to do, go an undefeated season when they can repeat, And how do you do that? You add Mike Evans And again maybe we're not tacking bold predictions here, but it kind of popped in my head like Mike Evans has kind of looked at as you know, Hall of very very good. I think because of you mentioned his consistency, But how many times if we looked at Evans like, oh, he was the best wide receiver in the NFL this season. I think with Patrick Mahomes, he can cement himself in that conversation with a season where he scores twenty twenty two to twenty three touchdowns because he can do that attached to a guy like Mahomes, I.

Yeah, I think that you're accurate with that. I mean, it's gonna be all the fantasy points are going to go to Patch Mahomes's arm and not the running backs and not Travis kelcey, because that's how Travis Kelsey has been so dominant. His red zone role has been elite at tight end. At the tight end position, again, even in a down year, he still had like eight touchdowns because he's the number one red zone target. That's not gonna be the case of Mike Evans is a Chief And it's funny. I just kind of like this kind of just popped in my head. But this whole season for the Chiefs has really reminded me a lot of the two thousand and six Patriots. Now that team didn't win the Super Bowl, but it was a team that was very undermanned, made all the way to the AFC Championship game, should not have made it there. But then they realized, hey, we did not give Brady enough weapons, Like we should not have made it this far, and the Chiefs are lucky they won the Super Bowl. Like again, this team was down and out, but every other team just laid an egg when they got the chance to try and play the Chiefs, like it just didn't work out. Like the chief should not have won the Super Bowl this year based on the offensive personnel. Obviously their defense was elite. They have Mahomes, but they this was a year they shouldn't have expected to win, but they did so. I think that they are going to be aggressively aggressively buying receivers, whether it's in the draft, or three free agency and Mike Evans, to me, this reminds me of when the Patriots traded for Randy Moss, Like they were like, no, we're sick of this. We need to go get our guy, the best wide receiver we can find. And Randy Moss was thirty years old, and then what did you do? Gwent out caught twenty three touchdowns in two thousand and seven. So the people talking about three peats, I'm looking at the Chiefs like, hey, why can't they go undefeated? Like that should be what they're striving to do, go an undefeated season when they can repeat, And how do you do that? You add Mike Evans And again maybe we're not tacking bold predictions here, but it kind of popped in my head like Mike Evans has kind of looked at as you know, Hall of very very good. I think because of you mentioned his consistency, But how many times if we looked at Evans like, oh, he was the best wide receiver in the NFL this season. I think with Patrick Mahomes, he can cement himself in that conversation with a season where he scores twenty twenty two to twenty three touchdowns because he can do that attached to a guy like Mahomes, I.

Think he's already agree.

Think he's already agree.

You know what I'm saying, But like, when, what's what have you ever looked at Mike Evans like he's the best wide receiver in the NFL?

You know what I'm saying, But like, when, what's what have you ever looked at Mike Evans like he's the best wide receiver in the NFL?

Right? No, no, no, you're right that. I don't know that he's ever been the best.

Right? No, no, no, you're right that. I don't know that he's ever been the best.

But I don't think he's been number one.

But I don't think he's been number one.

But can we say, like he's had multiple seasons and that's in in the top eight to ten.

But can we say, like he's had multiple seasons and that's in in the top eight to ten.

I think in a sport like football two ten, in a sport like football two durability, you don't think he is is valuable. I mean he has a thousand yards every year?

I think in a sport like football two ten, in a sport like football two durability, you don't think he is is valuable. I mean he has a thousand yards every year?

Right, how many times he's gone to our fifteen? No, ask how many times he's been the best receiver in the NFL.

Right, how many times he's gone to our fifteen? No, ask how many times he's been the best receiver in the NFL.

I didn't say that. How many times?

I didn't say that. How many times?

How many times would you have said he was at least top eight to ten? Are we to say none?

How many times would you have said he was at least top eight to ten? Are we to say none?

But I want, I want that's hall of fame. It's all of I'm not I'm not arguing, yeah, he's gonna get in the Hall of Fame, but I'm saying, like he doesn't have that marquee season where he's looked at as the best wide receiver in the NFL, and he can do that with Momes.

But I want, I want that's hall of fame. It's all of I'm not I'm not arguing, yeah, he's gonna get in the Hall of Fame, but I'm saying, like he doesn't have that marquee season where he's looked at as the best wide receiver in the NFL, and he can do that with Momes.

That's all fifteen yards and twenty eighteen I mean, I mean are arguably this past season if you look at receptions and yardage and touchdowns all kind of combined, last season might have been his like second best year maybe, I mean twenty sixteen. And was he top five in I don't. I don't think so. I don't have the scoring leaders but in front of me, But.

That's all fifteen yards and twenty eighteen I mean, I mean are arguably this past season if you look at receptions and yardage and touchdowns all kind of combined, last season might have been his like second best year maybe, I mean twenty sixteen. And was he top five in I don't. I don't think so. I don't have the scoring leaders but in front of me, But.

I don't disagree with that. I don't disagree with them.

I don't disagree with that. I don't disagree with them.

Yeah, definitely not top five real life.

Yeah, definitely not top five real life.

I'm not dissing Mike Evins. Were just saying like he hasn't had a guy like Mahomes.

I'm not dissing Mike Evins. Were just saying like he hasn't had a guy like Mahomes.

No, that's fair, that's true.

No, that's fair, that's true.

That's fair.

That's fair.

The one thing I do want to back before we keep rolling here, though, is I do think that it would help Travis Kelcey because you talked about the down year last year, Kelsey only had five receiving touchdowns, man like, so basically was they got into the red zone, it was like, oh, we just stopped Travis Kelcey. So Mahome's gonna have to do something like magical or they're gonna have to run the ball with the checkos. So I think if you add Mike Evans to this equation, you're giving the defense into the problem to have to solve for So, I think Kelsey's to Stown number would actually come.

The one thing I do want to back before we keep rolling here, though, is I do think that it would help Travis Kelcey because you talked about the down year last year, Kelsey only had five receiving touchdowns, man like, so basically was they got into the red zone, it was like, oh, we just stopped Travis Kelcey. So Mahome's gonna have to do something like magical or they're gonna have to run the ball with the checkos. So I think if you add Mike Evans to this equation, you're giving the defense into the problem to have to solve for So, I think Kelsey's to Stown number would actually come.

Back up quickly, just because I have his stats up and I think it's fun. How many rushing attempts do you think Mike Evans has in his career?

Back up quickly, just because I have his stats up and I think it's fun. How many rushing attempts do you think Mike Evans has in his career?

De bro good lord? Uh ten?

De bro good lord? Uh ten?

He's played one hundred and fifty four games. You think he has ten rushing attempts?

He's played one hundred and fifty four games. You think he has ten rushing attempts?

What do you think? I don't think it's garrickson one.

What do you think? I don't think it's garrickson one.

He has ten rushing yards on one attempts. Run one. I didn't know that tires just price.

He has ten rushing yards on one attempts. Run one. I didn't know that tires just price.

Is right of me, man. He was like, okay, now this zero bid. He just.

Is right of me, man. He was like, okay, now this zero bid. He just.

For the record, I do think Mike Evans is a Hall of Famer, But I'm just just saying like he doesn't have in my opinion that I don't.

For the record, I do think Mike Evans is a Hall of Famer, But I'm just just saying like he doesn't have in my opinion that I don't.

Think you're wrong about him never having been the best receiver in football. I I just don't think it matters.

Think you're wrong about him never having been the best receiver in football. I I just don't think it matters.

I think I want to mention that and double down on the point that you made about Randy Moss. That type of season would be firmly in play for Mike Evans. And I know it sounds like we're getting out over her skis, but like tell me why, like like that type of season and that punctuation on his career, Ledger.

I think I want to mention that and double down on the point that you made about Randy Moss. That type of season would be firmly in play for Mike Evans. And I know it sounds like we're getting out over her skis, but like tell me why, like like that type of season and that punctuation on his career, Ledger.

I would never play like the seven Rady Moss season on anybody, but I think he could have his career best season for sure.

I would never play like the seven Rady Moss season on anybody, but I think he could have his career best season for sure.

The guys that have done the consistency when it comes one thousand receiving yards, like the record that Evans broke, I'm pretty sure was Randy Moss's or Jerry Rice's.

The guys that have done the consistency when it comes one thousand receiving yards, like the record that Evans broke, I'm pretty sure was Randy Moss's or Jerry Rice's.

So yeah, yeah, let's move on to another receiver, a guy who is clearly uh you know, in the back nine of his career, well into the back nine. That's Odell Beckham Junior, and we're putting one of the New York Jets. He's going back to New York. Obviously this would be you know, teaming up with Aaron Rodgers, and O'Dell wasn't that impactful last year. So really this is kind of an excuse to talk about what do would mean for the Jets to add another piece to that passing attack Erickson, What do you think I.

So yeah, yeah, let's move on to another receiver, a guy who is clearly uh you know, in the back nine of his career, well into the back nine. That's Odell Beckham Junior, and we're putting one of the New York Jets. He's going back to New York. Obviously this would be you know, teaming up with Aaron Rodgers, and O'Dell wasn't that impactful last year. So really this is kind of an excuse to talk about what do would mean for the Jets to add another piece to that passing attack Erickson, What do you think I.

Think it'd be a good depth piece. I mean, they's got no production from anyone else on the field except for Garrett Wilson and from Breese Hall. So again, Aaron Rodgers brought in all of his retread guys and they all did nothing. So it's like, hey, Aaron, like, we know that you love it. What Alan was hard, but we really need to get some that can actually be more dynamic. And I think that Beckham, Yeah, I think that even though he did not deliver the contract expectations that the Ravens gave him, he still flashed like a lot of big plays. He had a top three average apt of the target. He was a brilliant more of a deep threat for the Ravens. He was not really used as more as a possion receiver, even though I think that's more of his game in my opinion. So I think that the Jets could probably use him in it a little different way, kind of as a complimentary piece to Garrett Wilson again as another red zone weapon, like he's good in the red zone where he can be more crafty with his route running. And obviously the Jets that was their biggest issue last year was they could not score any touchdowns. And now that comes back to the quarterback play. But having another weapon like OBJ in New York. I think it'd be a lot of fun. And if you look at Obej's metrics from last year, he wasn't horrible, like from a per efficiency kind of standpoint top thirty and pff for grade. Again, he was generating a lot of big plays and he wasn't running a lot of routes, like a lot of the times he was playing under fifty percent of the snap. So again, whether that's because he's a veteran he can't run all the routes, not so sure, but I think in New York he could be at least I'm not serviceable.

Think it'd be a good depth piece. I mean, they's got no production from anyone else on the field except for Garrett Wilson and from Breese Hall. So again, Aaron Rodgers brought in all of his retread guys and they all did nothing. So it's like, hey, Aaron, like, we know that you love it. What Alan was hard, but we really need to get some that can actually be more dynamic. And I think that Beckham, Yeah, I think that even though he did not deliver the contract expectations that the Ravens gave him, he still flashed like a lot of big plays. He had a top three average apt of the target. He was a brilliant more of a deep threat for the Ravens. He was not really used as more as a possion receiver, even though I think that's more of his game in my opinion. So I think that the Jets could probably use him in it a little different way, kind of as a complimentary piece to Garrett Wilson again as another red zone weapon, like he's good in the red zone where he can be more crafty with his route running. And obviously the Jets that was their biggest issue last year was they could not score any touchdowns. And now that comes back to the quarterback play. But having another weapon like OBJ in New York. I think it'd be a lot of fun. And if you look at Obej's metrics from last year, he wasn't horrible, like from a per efficiency kind of standpoint top thirty and pff for grade. Again, he was generating a lot of big plays and he wasn't running a lot of routes, like a lot of the times he was playing under fifty percent of the snap. So again, whether that's because he's a veteran he can't run all the routes, not so sure, but I think in New York he could be at least I'm not serviceable.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I was really surprised that we didn't see him do more in December and January, because earlier in the year it's like very clear, Okay, they're like saving him, they want him to be healthy, you know, later in the season. And then that like late November early December, he had a couple of games in a row where it was like, okay, like he's not back, but he is like now being used in a way that makes me really fantasy viable. And then it just kind of stopped and there wasn't, as far as I saw, any sort of like severe injury that was like long term limiting. He was just kind of like older, I guess. And I don't want to call him washed up or anything, because the dude is super talented, but I was surprised we didn't get more Debro later in the season.

I was really surprised that we didn't see him do more in December and January, because earlier in the year it's like very clear, Okay, they're like saving him, they want him to be healthy, you know, later in the season. And then that like late November early December, he had a couple of games in a row where it was like, okay, like he's not back, but he is like now being used in a way that makes me really fantasy viable. And then it just kind of stopped and there wasn't, as far as I saw, any sort of like severe injury that was like long term limiting. He was just kind of like older, I guess. And I don't want to call him washed up or anything, because the dude is super talented, but I was surprised we didn't get more Debro later in the season.

Oh same.

Oh same.

I mean, if anybody read the primers for the playoffs, I just kept talking about OBJ and how I thought he was, you know, because the coverage matchups and stuff, and it just never came to fruition. But I would honestly love this spot for OBJ if he lands with the Jets, and really, we're gonna go back. We're in the way back machine. We're going to go back to yesteryear. OBJ would become James Jones circa twenty twelve. That season, if you go pull back, go get hop back on the way back machine, and you remember James Jones as being Aaron Rodgers' best friend. He only had seven hundred and eighty four receiving yards in that season, but he scored fourteen freaking touchdowns.

I mean, if anybody read the primers for the playoffs, I just kept talking about OBJ and how I thought he was, you know, because the coverage matchups and stuff, and it just never came to fruition. But I would honestly love this spot for OBJ if he lands with the Jets, and really, we're gonna go back. We're in the way back machine. We're going to go back to yesteryear. OBJ would become James Jones circa twenty twelve. That season, if you go pull back, go get hop back on the way back machine, and you remember James Jones as being Aaron Rodgers' best friend. He only had seven hundred and eighty four receiving yards in that season, but he scored fourteen freaking touchdowns.

And and here's the thing, we've already seen OBJ do this before. If we remember that stretch run after he arrived to the Rams, these seven games he played at to close the regular season. There, he scored five freaking touchdowns while only averaging forty one receiving yards. He was on a pace for seven hundred receiving yards if he didn't okay, the full season pace for OBJ with the Rams that year would have been six hundred and ninety seven receiving yards and twelve tuddies. So he's right there for the grabbing baby like OBJ becomes James Jones, Aaron Rodgers' best friend.

And and here's the thing, we've already seen OBJ do this before. If we remember that stretch run after he arrived to the Rams, these seven games he played at to close the regular season. There, he scored five freaking touchdowns while only averaging forty one receiving yards. He was on a pace for seven hundred receiving yards if he didn't okay, the full season pace for OBJ with the Rams that year would have been six hundred and ninety seven receiving yards and twelve tuddies. So he's right there for the grabbing baby like OBJ becomes James Jones, Aaron Rodgers' best friend.

I hope that doesn' happen because I don't want him to take away too many touchdowns from what I'm hoping will be an amazing Garrett Wilson season next year. But we'll see. Let's go to more of an up and coming wide receiver, and that's Michael Pittman. I think it's a pretty decent chance he stays with the Colts, but for the sake of this exercise, we want to put him somewhere else and think about what that would look like. And we have Arizona now. They're obviously considered maybe the favorites to go after Marvin Harrison Junior in the draft, but they clearly could use another big time wide receiver for Kyler Murray. So deepra, I'll start with you here, Michael Pittman Junior to Arizona. What would that mean to you?

I hope that doesn' happen because I don't want him to take away too many touchdowns from what I'm hoping will be an amazing Garrett Wilson season next year. But we'll see. Let's go to more of an up and coming wide receiver, and that's Michael Pittman. I think it's a pretty decent chance he stays with the Colts, but for the sake of this exercise, we want to put him somewhere else and think about what that would look like. And we have Arizona now. They're obviously considered maybe the favorites to go after Marvin Harrison Junior in the draft, but they clearly could use another big time wide receiver for Kyler Murray. So deepra, I'll start with you here, Michael Pittman Junior to Arizona. What would that mean to you?

I mean, look, in this scenario, you can go one of two ways. Because Pittman arriving there. You could say, okay, now Arizona can go other directions in the draft. Maybe they can address defense, maybe they trade down all this different stuff. Let's have some fun here, man. Let's give Kyler Murray, Michael Pittman and Marvin Harrison Junior and Trey McBride and James Connors in the backfield. Arizona's gonna be top ten and scoring. Kyler's gonna crush all the things. Bells and whistles are going off, and then Arizona go address your defense in every draft for the next three years after that. That's what I want to see happen. And if that happens, Michael Pittman, we would be talking about his stock maybe goes down, considering what we've seen in the last two years, him being the unquestioned one and now being dropped into an offense where he's got a fight for targets on a weekly basis with two pretty elite options, and I know, we're giving a lot of praise to Marvin Harrison Junior, who's never even played a snap in the NFL, But come on.

I mean, look, in this scenario, you can go one of two ways. Because Pittman arriving there. You could say, okay, now Arizona can go other directions in the draft. Maybe they can address defense, maybe they trade down all this different stuff. Let's have some fun here, man. Let's give Kyler Murray, Michael Pittman and Marvin Harrison Junior and Trey McBride and James Connors in the backfield. Arizona's gonna be top ten and scoring. Kyler's gonna crush all the things. Bells and whistles are going off, and then Arizona go address your defense in every draft for the next three years after that. That's what I want to see happen. And if that happens, Michael Pittman, we would be talking about his stock maybe goes down, considering what we've seen in the last two years, him being the unquestioned one and now being dropped into an offense where he's got a fight for targets on a weekly basis with two pretty elite options, and I know, we're giving a lot of praise to Marvin Harrison Junior, who's never even played a snap in the NFL, But come on.

It's Marvin Harrison Junior leader options.

It's Marvin Harrison Junior leader options.

Exactly, and Marquise Brown being gone as a free agent, You're going to have a consolidated passing attackle But Kyler Murray, if they were to ramp up the pass passing rate, he could support all those weapons. So Michael Pittman would probably become of value this year in drafts.

Exactly, and Marquise Brown being gone as a free agent, You're going to have a consolidated passing attackle But Kyler Murray, if they were to ramp up the pass passing rate, he could support all those weapons. So Michael Pittman would probably become of value this year in drafts.

Man ericson where would you be ranking Kyler Murray if they really did add both Pittman and Marvin Harrison Junior on top of the Tray McBride breakout from last year.

Man ericson where would you be ranking Kyler Murray if they really did add both Pittman and Marvin Harrison Junior on top of the Tray McBride breakout from last year.

Pretty high, a lot higher than I think that he is in consensus and kind of how he viewed when I did my early kind of quarterback rankings. You know, Kyler Murray was someone I like called out is like, yeah, I'm gonna be in on this guy because he was productive. Like the first game he came back like like okay, like he's probably gonna be slow, he's not gonna he's like immediately running around. I'm like, well, he's healthy, he's fine, he's good. To go, so you're layering on Okay, he actually has weapons, and he's not playing in this like gimmicky air Ray Cliff Kingsbury offense, and he is running, so all those three things, like this is a elite fantasy quarterback. He's had season where he's scored over twenty two fantasy points per game, Like we harp on or we get stuck on these pocket passers that can never cress that twenty point per game average, and it's like you're never gonna get anywhere with these guys. They're all the same. If you're not going over twenty points, then just get a waiver wire guy like you can find whoever is the cheapest of those options. But once you crest over that twenty point threshold, now you're cooking with gas and that's gonna be Kyler Murray just given if he adds weapons in free agency through the draft. I mean, right now is the time to buy a low in Kyler Murray in any format, whether it's Dynasty, Bestball, whatever you're doing, like he's undervalue because it's just gonna get better for him.

Pretty high, a lot higher than I think that he is in consensus and kind of how he viewed when I did my early kind of quarterback rankings. You know, Kyler Murray was someone I like called out is like, yeah, I'm gonna be in on this guy because he was productive. Like the first game he came back like like okay, like he's probably gonna be slow, he's not gonna he's like immediately running around. I'm like, well, he's healthy, he's fine, he's good. To go, so you're layering on Okay, he actually has weapons, and he's not playing in this like gimmicky air Ray Cliff Kingsbury offense, and he is running, so all those three things, like this is a elite fantasy quarterback. He's had season where he's scored over twenty two fantasy points per game, Like we harp on or we get stuck on these pocket passers that can never cress that twenty point per game average, and it's like you're never gonna get anywhere with these guys. They're all the same. If you're not going over twenty points, then just get a waiver wire guy like you can find whoever is the cheapest of those options. But once you crest over that twenty point threshold, now you're cooking with gas and that's gonna be Kyler Murray just given if he adds weapons in free agency through the draft. I mean, right now is the time to buy a low in Kyler Murray in any format, whether it's Dynasty, Bestball, whatever you're doing, like he's undervalue because it's just gonna get better for him.

Speaking of the Cardinals, we have Marquise Brown leaving and going to Denver, Ericson. I'll start with you here, what would you mean with that set up for him?

Speaking of the Cardinals, we have Marquise Brown leaving and going to Denver, Ericson. I'll start with you here, what would you mean with that set up for him?

Not thrilled about it. I don't really know what to think of Marquise Brown because you know, he was set up really well last year. Like again, obviously he didn't have Marky Or he didn't have Kyler Murray to start the year. But Kylin Murray came back and Marcus Brown disappeared like he was worse when Kyler Murray came back, and then he got hurt. He's been hurt the last two seasons. So what are we looking at, Like, what's his body of work? He's been a vertical speed receiver that stretches the field, but has been inconsistent, never really been a true number one, and now he's kind of it's kind of he's going to like a Denver Broncos team that has a bunch of other receivers that we have question marks about too. It was like, Oh, Jerry, dude, he's ever gonna do anything. He's ever gonna live up to the Alabama pedigree. And then quorlt Sun if he got to all the touchdowns again, well then Marcus Brown, You're out of luck. So again, the fact that he had such a high opportunity last year twelve hundred air yards, twenty percent target chair, nearly a forty percent area yard share, was top twenty and weighted opportunity, and he was horrible. I feel like he got all the opportunity in the world last yeargain the quarterback play wasn't great, but even when Conner Murray came back, like, he was still bad. So I think that he's probably going to be discounted enough this year where wherever team he goes to, specifically in this case, Denver, he's probably just worth taking a flyer on because of how his entire body work. Like he's not like I'm going to be a wide receiver five, but that's probably where he's going to be ranked. And like when I look at my rankings, like that's where he is, Like he's like in the forties fifties, because I can't rank him super high just based in the last two years that we've seen from him.