What's up, friends, and welcome into Fantasy Pros, the Fantasy Football Podcast. I'm Chris Welsh, joined by two magnificent voices in the fantasy football space, the King of Bros. Derek Brown and the Athletics own Jake Seely. And what of my co hosts. I've worked with for many, many years and as I've said many many times, spent you know, gelato and overnights with our dear friend bogman Jake Seey, longtime friend, even saw wrestle Mania together. We have great memories and we'll make great memories today as we are talking about the ten must have players, We're already doing this. So who could they be? And how can we dictate you have to have these players as we record this in March, Well, we're going to tell you all about it here right here on Fantasy Pros. Mister Jake Seely, how are you, my friend? And how do you figure out the players that we must have this early into drafts?

What's up, friends, and welcome into Fantasy Pros, the Fantasy Football Podcast. I'm Chris Welsh, joined by two magnificent voices in the fantasy football space, the King of Bros. Derek Brown and the Athletics own Jake Seely. And what of my co hosts. I've worked with for many, many years and as I've said many many times, spent you know, gelato and overnights with our dear friend bogman Jake Seey, longtime friend, even saw wrestle Mania together. We have great memories and we'll make great memories today as we are talking about the ten must have players, We're already doing this. So who could they be? And how can we dictate you have to have these players as we record this in March, Well, we're going to tell you all about it here right here on Fantasy Pros. Mister Jake Seely, how are you, my friend? And how do you figure out the players that we must have this early into drafts?

So circling back one, it was Royal Rumble, Get your facts straight? What did I say? WrestleMania?

So circling back one, it was Royal Rumble, Get your facts straight? What did I say? WrestleMania?

Oh yeah, you're right, I'm sorry.

Oh yeah, you're right, I'm sorry.

Royal Rumble live on Chase Field. Which was it you were Bogman that took the chair that I couldn't take home on the plane I came.

Royal Rumble live on Chase Field. Which was it you were Bogman that took the chair that I couldn't take home on the plane I came.

I think I took it. I took the extra chair. It was very nice, it was padded, it was very beautiful. We were like three rows from like the ring. It was incredible.

I think I took it. I took the extra chair. It was very nice, it was padded, it was very beautiful. We were like three rows from like the ring. It was incredible.

Yeah, it was. And the funny thing was we went to an aw with you know, Ja Felicio and we saw Stings last match and we sat in those chairs again. On the way out, I sold one of them for like one hundred bucks because I did the same. But yeah, so back from Iceland, as you know today, as we were recording this, it's also a two year anniversary, you didn't even give me congratulations.

Yeah, it was. And the funny thing was we went to an aw with you know, Ja Felicio and we saw Stings last match and we sat in those chairs again. On the way out, I sold one of them for like one hundred bucks because I did the same. But yeah, so back from Iceland, as you know today, as we were recording this, it's also a two year anniversary, you didn't even give me congratulations.

Congratulations congratulations right, And.

Congratulations congratulations right, And.

I thought about that is because we got gelato in Iceland. As you saw the picture. Every time it's bittersweet, Nicole, and I keep getting gelato, and I keep tagging you because I'm like you, actually you and Boggs actually started that. It was us three that did that for the but we got it. We got it. And figuring out my top ten was figuring out I think Deebro probably agree with me. He's trying to find values on these like at this point, like there's no reason, but we both similarly have guys in these there are ones that are like very close to what their ADP is and that doesn't necessarily mean that they can't be must have even at that cost. Yeah, and Deebro, it's a really interesting thing too when you're looking at these like ten must have players, because I think these guys are also probably going to signify players that a lot of people are going to focus on and that are going to rise in ADP and the bigger question. It almost be a fun exercise to come back for this in like five months and see are these still must have players based on their value? But right now, you know, finding and dictating those players I think is a very interesting process. Anything you want to add to you know, these guys that you chose, because there's a couple on here that I'm like, these guys are going to be there's two specifically on a rocket ship for ranks by the time we get into like heavy draft season.

I thought about that is because we got gelato in Iceland. As you saw the picture. Every time it's bittersweet, Nicole, and I keep getting gelato, and I keep tagging you because I'm like you, actually you and Boggs actually started that. It was us three that did that for the but we got it. We got it. And figuring out my top ten was figuring out I think Deebro probably agree with me. He's trying to find values on these like at this point, like there's no reason, but we both similarly have guys in these there are ones that are like very close to what their ADP is and that doesn't necessarily mean that they can't be must have even at that cost. Yeah, and Deebro, it's a really interesting thing too when you're looking at these like ten must have players, because I think these guys are also probably going to signify players that a lot of people are going to focus on and that are going to rise in ADP and the bigger question. It almost be a fun exercise to come back for this in like five months and see are these still must have players based on their value? But right now, you know, finding and dictating those players I think is a very interesting process. Anything you want to add to you know, these guys that you chose, because there's a couple on here that I'm like, these guys are going to be there's two specifically on a rocket ship for ranks by the time we get into like heavy draft season.

Yeah, I think looking at this really comes down to talent situation, and I know some of that's going to change and shift, especially after the NFL Draft. So some of these guys were going to give some context too, But I mean for me, it comes down to when I'm looking at the board, it's it's a combination of both talent situation and some of it is value too, because there's some of the guys we're gonna talk about here. ECR over Fantasy Pros hasn't even caught up to where we're ranking some of these guys currently, so we'll see that kind of catch up both in the aggregate on ECR and as well as like, if you're doing early best ball drafts, this is gonna be great for you because the ev you're gonna beat a lot of draft rooms where these guys are gonna slip and maybe they don't get taken where they should be.

Yeah, I think looking at this really comes down to talent situation, and I know some of that's going to change and shift, especially after the NFL Draft. So some of these guys were going to give some context too, But I mean for me, it comes down to when I'm looking at the board, it's it's a combination of both talent situation and some of it is value too, because there's some of the guys we're gonna talk about here. ECR over Fantasy Pros hasn't even caught up to where we're ranking some of these guys currently, so we'll see that kind of catch up both in the aggregate on ECR and as well as like, if you're doing early best ball drafts, this is gonna be great for you because the ev you're gonna beat a lot of draft rooms where these guys are gonna slip and maybe they don't get taken where they should be.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think actually the best ball side of this is very interesting early early drafters. This is gonna get you ahead of the game. If you guys want to check it out, it will say Fantasypros dot Com Slash Rankings, Fanspros dot Com slash NFL do slash rankings. You can check out. We've already got tons of experts that are getting in not only early redraft ranks, We've got Dynasty, We've got rookie for drafts, coming up, you can check out because we're gonna be referencing this to these players. We're gonna be using ECR on the overall and the positional and where both of these fine gentlemen have these players. So that is the setup here. Let's talk about the ten must have players for twenty twenty five and Deebro. Actually, funny enough, you guys both have quarterbacks for number five here, but Debro, let's start with you with number five for you. So by the way, each of you are doing five of them, so we'll get to ten. So Deebro number five must have player is whom.

I think actually the best ball side of this is very interesting early early drafters. This is gonna get you ahead of the game. If you guys want to check it out, it will say Fantasypros dot Com Slash Rankings, Fanspros dot Com slash NFL do slash rankings. You can check out. We've already got tons of experts that are getting in not only early redraft ranks, We've got Dynasty, We've got rookie for drafts, coming up, you can check out because we're gonna be referencing this to these players. We're gonna be using ECR on the overall and the positional and where both of these fine gentlemen have these players. So that is the setup here. Let's talk about the ten must have players for twenty twenty five and Deebro. Actually, funny enough, you guys both have quarterbacks for number five here, but Debro, let's start with you with number five for you. So by the way, each of you are doing five of them, so we'll get to ten. So Deebro number five must have player is whom.

This has to be starting off the list. It has to be justin fields and I kind of alluded to this when we're talking about ECR right now, he is QB twenty six in ECR. In my rankings, he is QB twelve, And I think the proper way to look at in view fields for this year is he should be a QB one in your ranks, like, because that's what he's been every single time he's been a starter. You look over the last three years, last year as a starter for the Pittsburgh Steelers QB seven and fantasy points per game two previous seasons before that QB nine, QB five, So he will be a assuming he starts all the games and stays healthy. At this point of the offseason, I'm not getting cute and projecting anything else. Justin Fields will be a QB one in fantasy. So this is a guy that I think, even as rankings catch up to him, he's still probably not going to be ranked as a QB one for a lot of different people, and I think it's wrong. Man. So we know the rushing equity is there. He showed that last year and he's gonna continue that. He's not gonna stop running with the freaking Jets.

This has to be starting off the list. It has to be justin fields and I kind of alluded to this when we're talking about ECR right now, he is QB twenty six in ECR. In my rankings, he is QB twelve, And I think the proper way to look at in view fields for this year is he should be a QB one in your ranks, like, because that's what he's been every single time he's been a starter. You look over the last three years, last year as a starter for the Pittsburgh Steelers QB seven and fantasy points per game two previous seasons before that QB nine, QB five, So he will be a assuming he starts all the games and stays healthy. At this point of the offseason, I'm not getting cute and projecting anything else. Justin Fields will be a QB one in fantasy. So this is a guy that I think, even as rankings catch up to him, he's still probably not going to be ranked as a QB one for a lot of different people, and I think it's wrong. Man. So we know the rushing equity is there. He showed that last year and he's gonna continue that. He's not gonna stop running with the freaking Jets.

Well, the weapons around him too, are like ultimately fascinating and like what he is going to be able to do, not just as like a running quarterback, but a full on quarterback. With Breis Hall and Garrett Wilson. I mean, there are some huge playmakers around him that you hope scheme wise they're going to put it twelve is a top twelve quarterback. That's pretty pretty aggressive. Jake, let me ask you this Justin Fields or Anthony.

Well, the weapons around him too, are like ultimately fascinating and like what he is going to be able to do, not just as like a running quarterback, but a full on quarterback. With Breis Hall and Garrett Wilson. I mean, there are some huge playmakers around him that you hope scheme wise they're going to put it twelve is a top twelve quarterback. That's pretty pretty aggressive. Jake, let me ask you this Justin Fields or Anthony.

Richardson for this coming Justin Fields.

Richardson for this coming Justin Fields.

Yeah, without hesitation, one will definitively be the starter and one h we'll sleep.

Yeah, without hesitation, one will definitively be the starter and one h we'll sleep.

Well what will definitively be the starter as of day one? Also, it's just day one, last pat, Like, let's be honest, that's not an open competition.

Well what will definitively be the starter as of day one? Also, it's just day one, last pat, Like, let's be honest, that's not an open competition.

And the reason I say it is like, yeah, well, and what's funny about it is like Justin Fields seems like he's floating into the Anthony Richardson of last season's draft equity and and a lot of the hopes. But I think you agree with this one, Jake, And I think even your positional ranks, even though this is Debro's pick, might even be a tiny bit higher correct.

And the reason I say it is like, yeah, well, and what's funny about it is like Justin Fields seems like he's floating into the Anthony Richardson of last season's draft equity and and a lot of the hopes. But I think you agree with this one, Jake, And I think even your positional ranks, even though this is Debro's pick, might even be a tiny bit higher correct.

So, yes, this is now the second show in a row that you Fantasy pros boys have stolen people out of my list before I even got to it. Actually, the last one was Florial, he's not even with Fantasy Bro season was the guest last week with me and Worm. Yeah, this was the top five winners and one of his The first off the list was Justin Fields, and I was gonna have Justin Fields, and then guys, do you have to have I was gonna have Justin Fields and Deebro already Justin Fields?

So, yes, this is now the second show in a row that you Fantasy pros boys have stolen people out of my list before I even got to it. Actually, the last one was Florial, he's not even with Fantasy Bro season was the guest last week with me and Worm. Yeah, this was the top five winners and one of his The first off the list was Justin Fields, and I was gonna have Justin Fields, and then guys, do you have to have I was gonna have Justin Fields and Deebro already Justin Fields?

Well, hey, why don't you not go to Iceland. Stop going to Iceland and amazing it's March Sealley. Do your fantasy work.

Well, hey, why don't you not go to Iceland. Stop going to Iceland and amazing it's March Sealley. Do your fantasy work.

Actually, who hold on their Internet is amazing? I mean really coast to coast you get like at least two bars every like, I don't know they talked about their infrastructure anyway. I actually have a question for de brow is like why does he hate justin fields? Because have him at ten. So let's just put it that. So I have falling on board with this the past three years as he was talking about it. Since twenty twenty two. If you look at his pointsberg game, he ranks only barely barely behind Joe Burrow, just to give you an idea. So we're talking about three or four quarterbacks depending of course there was something that weren't playing in twenty twenty two, but like, he's in the top five on points per game. So I'm with him one hundred percent on this. And he's actually one spot in front of what is going to be my first name that I'm gonna mention at quarterback, So he would have been the name and I mentioned first.

Actually, who hold on their Internet is amazing? I mean really coast to coast you get like at least two bars every like, I don't know they talked about their infrastructure anyway. I actually have a question for de brow is like why does he hate justin fields? Because have him at ten. So let's just put it that. So I have falling on board with this the past three years as he was talking about it. Since twenty twenty two. If you look at his pointsberg game, he ranks only barely barely behind Joe Burrow, just to give you an idea. So we're talking about three or four quarterbacks depending of course there was something that weren't playing in twenty twenty two, but like, he's in the top five on points per game. So I'm with him one hundred percent on this. And he's actually one spot in front of what is going to be my first name that I'm gonna mention at quarterback, So he would have been the name and I mentioned first.

Well, and we're going to talk about that. I will point out again you know I threw out the Anthony Richardson thing. If you look at ECR ranks, Richardson his quarterback seventeen while Justin Fields is currently twenty five. So you know, it sounds, especially based on your guys's ranks, it sounds kind of silly. And Justin Field is going to continue moving up. He actually moved up two spots in twenty four hours since we did this show, and it'll keep going up. But that's kind of the general space of where it is. You said you have also got a quarterback with one spot higher. I think you just said. So we're focusing on some quarterbacks at number five. Your number five must have player Jake Seely.

Well, and we're going to talk about that. I will point out again you know I threw out the Anthony Richardson thing. If you look at ECR ranks, Richardson his quarterback seventeen while Justin Fields is currently twenty five. So you know, it sounds, especially based on your guys's ranks, it sounds kind of silly. And Justin Field is going to continue moving up. He actually moved up two spots in twenty four hours since we did this show, and it'll keep going up. But that's kind of the general space of where it is. You said you have also got a quarterback with one spot higher. I think you just said. So we're focusing on some quarterbacks at number five. Your number five must have player Jake Seely.

Is who yeah a QB fourteen ADP. I have him QB eleven, So it's not a huge gap over it. But he's somebody that I would take over a lot of names that people might say like, no, I just trust that guy more. But when it comes to quarterback, if I don't get a top tier or Joe Burrow I having a tier by himself. If I don't get one of those, I want somebody who has the potential for top five. I don't want quarterback eleven. Like if this quarterback finishes QB eleven. I'm gonna be like, Eh, that's not that great. I want top five potential, and I think Caleb Williams has top five potential, not just because of Ben Johnson, not just because what everybody's talking about going into the second year and the changes there comes down to what was the biggest thing they also did in the off season is they addressed the offensive line. Caleb Williams, if you go back and look at my rookie profile for him is like I said, he has Josh Allen. And now I always profile for fancy purposes to give people an id in their head, like Derek does a great job. A lot of people do of like say this is the player he's similar to stylistically, and there are some comparisons to Josh Allen, But I say, like, if you're thinking fantasy, what's like the lining I could expect? And I said, Josh Allen upsides Sam Howell risk and I think we saw the Sam Howel risk last year, but not with the interceptions, which I thought that was probably the most important takeaway from his rookie year. It was a struggle at times. It was the bad Sam Howell decision making but he didn't throw a lot of interceptions, and I like that from him now going into year two, I don't even care if Keenan Allen comes back or not. It's more fact that now you have an offense that that's going to maximize his value if it's there, and I want that three four, five, more likely five six hundred rushing on top of what he can do as a passer. If we truly believed the talent that we saw last year, and now having an offensive line, now having a second year, now having an offensive staff that understands how to you it was him, I think top five is in play, and that's why I would take him well ahead of some of the names like Jared Goff, the old Ben Josson, Like I would take him over Jared Golf.

Is who yeah a QB fourteen ADP. I have him QB eleven, So it's not a huge gap over it. But he's somebody that I would take over a lot of names that people might say like, no, I just trust that guy more. But when it comes to quarterback, if I don't get a top tier or Joe Burrow I having a tier by himself. If I don't get one of those, I want somebody who has the potential for top five. I don't want quarterback eleven. Like if this quarterback finishes QB eleven. I'm gonna be like, Eh, that's not that great. I want top five potential, and I think Caleb Williams has top five potential, not just because of Ben Johnson, not just because what everybody's talking about going into the second year and the changes there comes down to what was the biggest thing they also did in the off season is they addressed the offensive line. Caleb Williams, if you go back and look at my rookie profile for him is like I said, he has Josh Allen. And now I always profile for fancy purposes to give people an id in their head, like Derek does a great job. A lot of people do of like say this is the player he's similar to stylistically, and there are some comparisons to Josh Allen, But I say, like, if you're thinking fantasy, what's like the lining I could expect? And I said, Josh Allen upsides Sam Howell risk and I think we saw the Sam Howel risk last year, but not with the interceptions, which I thought that was probably the most important takeaway from his rookie year. It was a struggle at times. It was the bad Sam Howell decision making but he didn't throw a lot of interceptions, and I like that from him now going into year two, I don't even care if Keenan Allen comes back or not. It's more fact that now you have an offense that that's going to maximize his value if it's there, and I want that three four, five, more likely five six hundred rushing on top of what he can do as a passer. If we truly believed the talent that we saw last year, and now having an offensive line, now having a second year, now having an offensive staff that understands how to you it was him, I think top five is in play, and that's why I would take him well ahead of some of the names like Jared Goff, the old Ben Josson, Like I would take him over Jared Golf.

We have tiers on the Fantasy pros ranks you can check out, and it's interesting, Caleb is the end of tier three, and tier three is Kyler, Murray, Jordan Love, Herbert bo Nicks, Brock Perdy and Caleb Williams and that, and you know you're saying you take him over Jared GoF Jared Goff is the end of that tier two. If you're looking at it, Debro, what do you think about this pick and Caleb Williams And I'd also be interested you referencing Caleb versus like justin Fields and where you have him, and what do you think about those two because those are right next to each other for Seay, but Field's is one spot higher? What do you think about Fields versus Caleb?

We have tiers on the Fantasy pros ranks you can check out, and it's interesting, Caleb is the end of tier three, and tier three is Kyler, Murray, Jordan Love, Herbert bo Nicks, Brock Perdy and Caleb Williams and that, and you know you're saying you take him over Jared GoF Jared Goff is the end of that tier two. If you're looking at it, Debro, what do you think about this pick and Caleb Williams And I'd also be interested you referencing Caleb versus like justin Fields and where you have him, and what do you think about those two because those are right next to each other for Seay, but Field's is one spot higher? What do you think about Fields versus Caleb?

I'm lower on Caleb. I just my question is he gonna run this year? Because we saw the rushing last year and we saw it more down the back half of the season where he averaged thirty one rushing yards over the back half of the season. I think it was like week eleven or week twelve on I just wonder in this new iteration of the offense with Ben Johnson, are we going to get rushing from Kalo because he he showed he can do that and does that add to his fantasy value in twenty twenty five or do we not get the rushing because I think it's gonna be a big divide, like saying he's two hunder rushing yards versus maybe I mean last year for eighty nine. It could be the difference between being a top twelve quarterback or he's somewhere in the mid KB two range. So I'm I think that he could have a much better second season in the NFL with everything they've done this offseason. He has plenty of weapons around him. Ben Johnson in town. I guess, Celia, I'm gonna throw this back to you, man, Like, how much do you think he runs? Do you think he gets closer to that four to five hundred range this year for rushing yards or do you think that he's a little bit lower than I'm guessing you're gonna.

I'm lower on Caleb. I just my question is he gonna run this year? Because we saw the rushing last year and we saw it more down the back half of the season where he averaged thirty one rushing yards over the back half of the season. I think it was like week eleven or week twelve on I just wonder in this new iteration of the offense with Ben Johnson, are we going to get rushing from Kalo because he he showed he can do that and does that add to his fantasy value in twenty twenty five or do we not get the rushing because I think it's gonna be a big divide, like saying he's two hunder rushing yards versus maybe I mean last year for eighty nine. It could be the difference between being a top twelve quarterback or he's somewhere in the mid KB two range. So I'm I think that he could have a much better second season in the NFL with everything they've done this offseason. He has plenty of weapons around him. Ben Johnson in town. I guess, Celia, I'm gonna throw this back to you, man, Like, how much do you think he runs? Do you think he gets closer to that four to five hundred range this year for rushing yards or do you think that he's a little bit lower than I'm guessing you're gonna.

Tell you what he said to Jake. You said like around five hundred yards.

Tell you what he said to Jake. You said like around five hundred yards.

So yeah, I'm gonna go back to that, like, look, Ben Johnson has the job that Ben Johnson has because he's better than I am. But I'm about to reference something that I said last year that was why I believe this for Kayleb Williams. His last year, I was doing a podcast and I said, if I am in charge of the offense for the Bears back when they were having the whole Thomas Brown shift and all that type of stuff, I said, I would stop going and meet with Caleb Williams. And this actually references something I talked about with Jaden daniels Is at the beginning of the year actually said, what is Cliff Kingsbury doing. He's not letting him throw downfield? Why? And then I apologize to Cliff Kingsbury. It's like, hey, again, they know more than I do. He was making Jada and Daniels do checkboxes, and I said similarly at the middle of the season, they're not doing that with Caleb Williams. They just threw the entire book at him. And I said, they need to stop, pause and say first read. If it's not there, run first read, run first raid, run, like, get him to use his legs. You go back to college. What happened in his last season when he was trying to play hero bawl is he stopped running as much and he tried to run around in the pocket and then make these crazy throws downfield that often fell incomplete. So that second half that Deebro's talking about is he was more comfortable. He was seeing those opportunities and taking and when you know, plays weren't there. So I do believe that if you're going to maximize Caleb Williams, if you're going to maximize this offense, that needs to be a part of it now, I will admit Derek brings up what is the risk. What if Ben Johnson comes in and says, you know what, he's just good enough the pocket, I don't need him to run. That is a possibility there. But there was a lot of outside runs that you saw with the lines at times. I think part of that does come down to you can use Caleb Williams in that same aspect. So it's a question that is part of the reason that he's not higher than he is. So I will say there is risk, but I'm okay with that because at QB eleven, if I miss guess what, I can go grab QB sixteen, who turned into QB ten next year.

So yeah, I'm gonna go back to that, like, look, Ben Johnson has the job that Ben Johnson has because he's better than I am. But I'm about to reference something that I said last year that was why I believe this for Kayleb Williams. His last year, I was doing a podcast and I said, if I am in charge of the offense for the Bears back when they were having the whole Thomas Brown shift and all that type of stuff, I said, I would stop going and meet with Caleb Williams. And this actually references something I talked about with Jaden daniels Is at the beginning of the year actually said, what is Cliff Kingsbury doing. He's not letting him throw downfield? Why? And then I apologize to Cliff Kingsbury. It's like, hey, again, they know more than I do. He was making Jada and Daniels do checkboxes, and I said similarly at the middle of the season, they're not doing that with Caleb Williams. They just threw the entire book at him. And I said, they need to stop, pause and say first read. If it's not there, run first read, run first raid, run, like, get him to use his legs. You go back to college. What happened in his last season when he was trying to play hero bawl is he stopped running as much and he tried to run around in the pocket and then make these crazy throws downfield that often fell incomplete. So that second half that Deebro's talking about is he was more comfortable. He was seeing those opportunities and taking and when you know, plays weren't there. So I do believe that if you're going to maximize Caleb Williams, if you're going to maximize this offense, that needs to be a part of it now, I will admit Derek brings up what is the risk. What if Ben Johnson comes in and says, you know what, he's just good enough the pocket, I don't need him to run. That is a possibility there. But there was a lot of outside runs that you saw with the lines at times. I think part of that does come down to you can use Caleb Williams in that same aspect. So it's a question that is part of the reason that he's not higher than he is. So I will say there is risk, but I'm okay with that because at QB eleven, if I miss guess what, I can go grab QB sixteen, who turned into QB ten next year.

Yeah, and both of these guys are preaching a little bit of the late round quarterback. These are quarterbacks that are on the back half of your overall starters, so the investment is easier to move through. You snag one of these guys, maybe you snag a little bit of a safer guy if that's your play and you move through. Let's go to number four on both of them. But first let's talk about our friends over at DraftKings, because when it comes to college basketball in March, Mania. One thing is for sure. Nothing is for sure. Upsets, buzzer beaters, Cinderella is advancing top seeds, going home early. It's all gonna happen. Bet the unexpected, every upset, every day with DraftKings Sports Book with live betting, exclusive content, promos, and parlays. DraftKings is the ultimate college basketball destination for March. If you're ready to make your first bet, check out the matchups and pick a team to win. It's that simple. You can bet your bracket or even letting you parlay the bracket with your teams, or parlay a team to get to the Sweet sixteen or even the Final four. Parlay those bad boys together. If this is your first time, something special for you. New DraftKings customers can bet five dollars and get two hundred dollars in bonus bets. Instantly bet the unexpected with DraftKings Sports Book. Download the DraftKings Sports Book app and use Code Fantasy Pros. That's Code Fantasy Pros for new customers to get two hundred in bonus bets when you bet just five bucks only on DraftKings. The Crown is.

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We're going to be looking at some running backs. Oh, how cute are you guys? You got little pairings quarterbacks and running backs. You guys are so in sync here. So we've got two running backs that we're going to pick with here, Debro, number four on your list currently is strained. Yeah, another steal. You're looking at more of the flex running back range. But there's a lot of upside because he's really his competition kind of got out of town. Who is number four on you Must Have Players?

We're going to be looking at some running backs. Oh, how cute are you guys? You got little pairings quarterbacks and running backs. You guys are so in sync here. So we've got two running backs that we're going to pick with here, Debro, number four on your list currently is strained. Yeah, another steal. You're looking at more of the flex running back range. But there's a lot of upside because he's really his competition kind of got out of town. Who is number four on you Must Have Players?

It's Jalen Warren and I know that in consensus right now he is the RB twenty seven. I think it's people hedging because we haven't had the NFL Draft and everybody's expecting the Steelers to add a running back and could they do that, Yes, that could absolutely happen, depending on where that happens, though that still doesn't mean that Jalen Warren isn't the starter for the Pittsburgh Steelers in twenty twenty five. And if he is, then he will pay off handsomely. Where I have him ranked at RB sixteen as a strong RB two, and I'll even go out on a limit and say, if he's the guy this year, he's an RB two with RB one upside because what we've seen out of Jalen Warren when he's been given opportunities and he's been healthy, and I think that needs to be given context here, because last year he was not healthy all year. He dealt with knee issues, hamstring issues, and it really crushed his tackle breaking ability. But once he was healthy, we saw him go back to being the uber efficient back that you've come to love in fantasy. And I want to just be kind and rewind here people. In twenty twenty three, we are discussing a running back that is now possibly the starter, possibly can get workhorse usage. In twenty twenty five that was top ten in the NFL in yards per touch, explosive run rate, mistackles forced, Oh, look at that. I can keep going on. Yards are to contact per attempt, yards per rout run, everything you want from efficiency from a running back. This guy is going to possibly be a workhorse this year, and yet we're ranking him as an RB three. I'm not doing it, not buying it.

It's Jalen Warren and I know that in consensus right now he is the RB twenty seven. I think it's people hedging because we haven't had the NFL Draft and everybody's expecting the Steelers to add a running back and could they do that, Yes, that could absolutely happen, depending on where that happens, though that still doesn't mean that Jalen Warren isn't the starter for the Pittsburgh Steelers in twenty twenty five. And if he is, then he will pay off handsomely. Where I have him ranked at RB sixteen as a strong RB two, and I'll even go out on a limit and say, if he's the guy this year, he's an RB two with RB one upside because what we've seen out of Jalen Warren when he's been given opportunities and he's been healthy, and I think that needs to be given context here, because last year he was not healthy all year. He dealt with knee issues, hamstring issues, and it really crushed his tackle breaking ability. But once he was healthy, we saw him go back to being the uber efficient back that you've come to love in fantasy. And I want to just be kind and rewind here people. In twenty twenty three, we are discussing a running back that is now possibly the starter, possibly can get workhorse usage. In twenty twenty five that was top ten in the NFL in yards per touch, explosive run rate, mistackles forced, Oh, look at that. I can keep going on. Yards are to contact per attempt, yards per rout run, everything you want from efficiency from a running back. This guy is going to possibly be a workhorse this year, and yet we're ranking him as an RB three. I'm not doing it, not buying it.

So here's my question to you real quick, and I want to get Jake's take on this though, is I think some of the hesitation on it is a word that you said is people's fear. Can Jalen Warren be a workhorse?

So here's my question to you real quick, and I want to get Jake's take on this though, is I think some of the hesitation on it is a word that you said is people's fear. Can Jalen Warren be a workhorse?

Can he?

Can he?

Are they comfortable being a workhorse and giving him that? And I think that is what is holding a lot of us back. What do the touches look like to you? Where he's an RB.

Are they comfortable being a workhorse and giving him that? And I think that is what is holding a lot of us back. What do the touches look like to you? Where he's an RB.

Six fifteen to seventeen a game like, I think he's going to split touches with somebody, but I don't even think he has to get in that twenty something range for touches. And I want to take this a little bit further back, we're still discussing a prospect. In his final year of college, he had two hundred and fifty six carries. So even if we go back to he has been able to improve and that he can stand up to the volume. He just dealt with injuries like everybody like that's the running back position outside of a blow apparently last year they get hurt. It happens.

Six fifteen to seventeen a game like, I think he's going to split touches with somebody, but I don't even think he has to get in that twenty something range for touches. And I want to take this a little bit further back, we're still discussing a prospect. In his final year of college, he had two hundred and fifty six carries. So even if we go back to he has been able to improve and that he can stand up to the volume. He just dealt with injuries like everybody like that's the running back position outside of a blow apparently last year they get hurt. It happens.

They play football well in His receiving equity is something that makes him so valuable. So Jake, obviously you said this is kind of a steal, so you're gonna agree. If I asked the question is is he criminally ranked at twenty twenty seven on the overall You're probably gonna say yes. But let me ask you this as well. Can he be a top sixteen running back with fifteen to seventeen touches?

They play football well in His receiving equity is something that makes him so valuable. So Jake, obviously you said this is kind of a steal, so you're gonna agree. If I asked the question is is he criminally ranked at twenty twenty seven on the overall You're probably gonna say yes. But let me ask you this as well. Can he be a top sixteen running back with fifteen to seventeen touches?

So first, I'd like to give a shout out to thank you for the blockbuster reference. That was actually my first job, so I have to give a shout out for Derek for that one. Is funny. Is I am a twenty one so I'm not quite as high as Derek as of today? Because to your question, do I think he ken of fifteen to seventeen probably, but this is where I'm going to go with it. Actually, as crazy is this gonna sound, listen to me on this one, I think it's more likely fifteen to eighteen touches he's pushing RB one than twenty plus per game. And the reason why is I'm gonna throw out a name, Lamar Miller. I always use Lamar Miller because he was the best example of this. For years, the fantasy community was like, give him more touches, give him more touches. What the hell are you doing? Give him more touches? And I've said timing before and just very on this podcast, teams and coaches no more than we do. And what happened when Lamar Miller got more touches, he put up the same stat line on more touches, he was less efficient. And that's why I say this. I actually believe that Jayleen Warren's best game is not touching the ball twenty plus times a game. And we haven't seen that usage from the Steelers because they probably understand that and know that it's Arthur Smith as well, which is why I'm hedging a little bit to reference with Debro kind of said before, I don't think I'm hedging a lot. I have him clearly in tier three with Breeze Hall and Cuba Hubbard and Naje Harris, his former teammate, like I have him there with those names, and I would if as of today, if you told me I'm from the future, they don't draft anybody in the first two days, all right, I'll push him up to sixteen with debro yep. I just I just don't believe Arthur Smith's gonna come out of the draft with nobody. So maybe it is day three, maybe it's round six, and I don't really care. But if it's round three, maybe even round four, because of this draft class, I'd probably keep him right in this range. But that's not a slight I still do believe he does have top fifteen upside.

So first, I'd like to give a shout out to thank you for the blockbuster reference. That was actually my first job, so I have to give a shout out for Derek for that one. Is funny. Is I am a twenty one so I'm not quite as high as Derek as of today? Because to your question, do I think he ken of fifteen to seventeen probably, but this is where I'm going to go with it. Actually, as crazy is this gonna sound, listen to me on this one, I think it's more likely fifteen to eighteen touches he's pushing RB one than twenty plus per game. And the reason why is I'm gonna throw out a name, Lamar Miller. I always use Lamar Miller because he was the best example of this. For years, the fantasy community was like, give him more touches, give him more touches. What the hell are you doing? Give him more touches? And I've said timing before and just very on this podcast, teams and coaches no more than we do. And what happened when Lamar Miller got more touches, he put up the same stat line on more touches, he was less efficient. And that's why I say this. I actually believe that Jayleen Warren's best game is not touching the ball twenty plus times a game. And we haven't seen that usage from the Steelers because they probably understand that and know that it's Arthur Smith as well, which is why I'm hedging a little bit to reference with Debro kind of said before, I don't think I'm hedging a lot. I have him clearly in tier three with Breeze Hall and Cuba Hubbard and Naje Harris, his former teammate, like I have him there with those names, and I would if as of today, if you told me I'm from the future, they don't draft anybody in the first two days, all right, I'll push him up to sixteen with debro yep. I just I just don't believe Arthur Smith's gonna come out of the draft with nobody. So maybe it is day three, maybe it's round six, and I don't really care. But if it's round three, maybe even round four, because of this draft class, I'd probably keep him right in this range. But that's not a slight I still do believe he does have top fifteen upside.

Fascinating if the Steelers would have traded for like Jordan Mason instead of the Vikings, Jordan Mason and Pittsburgh would have ruined all of that. Jake, speaking of the San Francisco forty nine Ers, they traded away Jordan Mason. Look at that they traded away Jordan Mason. They opened up a spot that's behind Christian McCaffrey, which looks very tantalizing, and that just happens to be where you're going with your must have number four player.

Fascinating if the Steelers would have traded for like Jordan Mason instead of the Vikings, Jordan Mason and Pittsburgh would have ruined all of that. Jake, speaking of the San Francisco forty nine Ers, they traded away Jordan Mason. Look at that they traded away Jordan Mason. They opened up a spot that's behind Christian McCaffrey, which looks very tantalizing, and that just happens to be where you're going with your must have number four player.

Yeah, he's right now RB fifty two. I have him at RB forty three, and I would actually love to put him higher, but there's just some names in front of him that are actually in split backfields already, like they're already getting touches. But Isaac Grende going back to last year and this is I'll victory lap this so and the fact that I had him in tier two with like Isaiah Davis and Blake Korum and other running backs like that. To be fair, I'll come for myself too. I also had Kamani Vidal and like will Shipley in that tier, So, like, I wasn't one hundred percent perfect on that tier, but I really loved him even more after the draft because Isaac Grendro's play style works perfectly in a Shanahan system. And I said that as soon as he was drafted. And that's why I love this because as soon as they put that tender on Mason, I'm like, oh, you gotta be kidding me. Maybe they just really have a thing for Mason, And I'm just gonna have to hold off for another year on Grendo, but then the trade happened. I was like, yes, this is what I wanted. I believed and I held tight. And Isaac Grendo is rewarded to everybody who held onto him, especially in Dynasty, because he purely the backup to Christian McCaffrey. Now, of course we've seen it before forty nine ers. Would it really be a shock if they came out of the fourth round with a running back round? It's like, we're doing this again. But at least as of today, Christian McCaffrey, who you know, I'm still even drafting Christian mccaffe as a top five running back because he has number one upside. Still it's just health, but at this point that health is getting riskier and riskier and riskier. And we saw Grendo last year when he was finally healthy. By the way, the upside he has, which is top fifteen if he has that backfield. So that's why Grendo's here. I would love to even put him higher, but it's just like I said, it's tough with some of the names in front of him.

Yeah, he's right now RB fifty two. I have him at RB forty three, and I would actually love to put him higher, but there's just some names in front of him that are actually in split backfields already, like they're already getting touches. But Isaac Grende going back to last year and this is I'll victory lap this so and the fact that I had him in tier two with like Isaiah Davis and Blake Korum and other running backs like that. To be fair, I'll come for myself too. I also had Kamani Vidal and like will Shipley in that tier, So, like, I wasn't one hundred percent perfect on that tier, but I really loved him even more after the draft because Isaac Grendro's play style works perfectly in a Shanahan system. And I said that as soon as he was drafted. And that's why I love this because as soon as they put that tender on Mason, I'm like, oh, you gotta be kidding me. Maybe they just really have a thing for Mason, And I'm just gonna have to hold off for another year on Grendo, but then the trade happened. I was like, yes, this is what I wanted. I believed and I held tight. And Isaac Grendo is rewarded to everybody who held onto him, especially in Dynasty, because he purely the backup to Christian McCaffrey. Now, of course we've seen it before forty nine ers. Would it really be a shock if they came out of the fourth round with a running back round? It's like, we're doing this again. But at least as of today, Christian McCaffrey, who you know, I'm still even drafting Christian mccaffe as a top five running back because he has number one upside. Still it's just health, but at this point that health is getting riskier and riskier and riskier. And we saw Grendo last year when he was finally healthy. By the way, the upside he has, which is top fifteen if he has that backfield. So that's why Grendo's here. I would love to even put him higher, but it's just like I said, it's tough with some of the names in front of him.

He's like the classic handcuff in the handcuff world. It's like when he's the guy, it's like just skyrocketing value. Deebro, what do you think about Grindo being a must own player?

He's like the classic handcuff in the handcuff world. It's like when he's the guy, it's like just skyrocketing value. Deebro, what do you think about Grindo being a must own player?

I love the call. I mean really it's just you know, it's a it's a hedge against CMC, and it's really just saying like, look like, if he gets the job, we've already seen this happen. And Jake's talking about prospect stuff from last year. If I'm reading this right, I had him as my RB six in the class last year, right above Tyrone Tracy and I maybe this is a flex but also a cell phone right above Tyrone Tracy and Bucky Irving. So I was very high on Grindo as well. So I'm a big believer in the talent man. I mean, his speed and his athleticism are are just fantastic. I mean we're talking about a running back that could break and he did this last year when he was given the opportunities. He can hit home runs. Man, So like even on limited volume, like we don't need to see him see volume. If he was their starter again in twenty twenty five, give him fifteen touches and he's going to break a home runner two.

I love the call. I mean really it's just you know, it's a it's a hedge against CMC, and it's really just saying like, look like, if he gets the job, we've already seen this happen. And Jake's talking about prospect stuff from last year. If I'm reading this right, I had him as my RB six in the class last year, right above Tyrone Tracy and I maybe this is a flex but also a cell phone right above Tyrone Tracy and Bucky Irving. So I was very high on Grindo as well. So I'm a big believer in the talent man. I mean, his speed and his athleticism are are just fantastic. I mean we're talking about a running back that could break and he did this last year when he was given the opportunities. He can hit home runs. Man, So like even on limited volume, like we don't need to see him see volume. If he was their starter again in twenty twenty five, give him fifteen touches and he's going to break a home runner two.

I mean, well Welsh knows it. In forty nine ers got six feet two twenty and can run almost a four three. It was low four threes. Like that's just I don't think people realize that.

I mean, well Welsh knows it. In forty nine ers got six feet two twenty and can run almost a four three. It was low four threes. Like that's just I don't think people realize that.

Man, if you got those good tackles, like he you know, he's not looking to sidestep or like fine, he just plows into the hole and if they bring a hole up, then boom, he's gonna break it out, big breakaway speed, just quickly debro in the world of like, we don't really handcuff necessarily anymore. Is there a more important spot to handcuff a running back with Christian McCaffrey, with Grinda? Is there another player that's like, if I take this running back, I have to. I'm trying to envision it, and I kind of don't know if there is someone that's more important from a value perspective. I'm not sure there's a bigger gap between Grindo is like the backup and if he became the number one. But is there a more important handcuff in football?

Man, if you got those good tackles, like he you know, he's not looking to sidestep or like fine, he just plows into the hole and if they bring a hole up, then boom, he's gonna break it out, big breakaway speed, just quickly debro in the world of like, we don't really handcuff necessarily anymore. Is there a more important spot to handcuff a running back with Christian McCaffrey, with Grinda? Is there another player that's like, if I take this running back, I have to. I'm trying to envision it, and I kind of don't know if there is someone that's more important from a value perspective. I'm not sure there's a bigger gap between Grindo is like the backup and if he became the number one. But is there a more important handcuff in football?

No, I mean, I think the only other guy that, like, off the top of my head, that I can really paint you as good of a picture for Grindo is maybe Zach Sharboney.

No, I mean, I think the only other guy that, like, off the top of my head, that I can really paint you as good of a picture for Grindo is maybe Zach Sharboney.

I can't say Blake Korham.

I can't say Blake Korham.

Well, Blake Koram's another one, you know, I mean like I think that might be end the list. Yeah, I mean seriously though, And Grinda's probably gonna go wearing drafts behind both of those guys, just guessing.

Well, Blake Koram's another one, you know, I mean like I think that might be end the list. Yeah, I mean seriously though, And Grinda's probably gonna go wearing drafts behind both of those guys, just guessing.

Yeah, Seey, what do you think Is there a bigger one or one of those guys more important than Grenda?

Yeah, Seey, what do you think Is there a bigger one or one of those guys more important than Grenda?

Do you think? I think that's probably the list? Like I have Grenda in front of Rashad White because I think the Buccaneers are already starting to tell us, like agreed, it's not like, oh my God, Chase Edmonds, but like they don't seem to be sure. This is why we were like Bucky Irving last year. Is like they don't seem to love for Shot White and deserve really so he's a very volume dependent and even more so than what people want to hate Naje Harris for. So I'm looking right now. The tier I have Grenda in is actually right behind Jordan Mason. But that's again because I actually think Jordan Mason gets more per week. But if put it this way, if everybody gets hurt that I have these backups with there to really answer your question. Grenda would rank the highest. Grenda would rank over Mason, over Ray Davis, over Blake Korm like, he would be the top of those, even though they would all kind of be in a similar conversation.

Do you think? I think that's probably the list? Like I have Grenda in front of Rashad White because I think the Buccaneers are already starting to tell us, like agreed, it's not like, oh my God, Chase Edmonds, but like they don't seem to be sure. This is why we were like Bucky Irving last year. Is like they don't seem to love for Shot White and deserve really so he's a very volume dependent and even more so than what people want to hate Naje Harris for. So I'm looking right now. The tier I have Grenda in is actually right behind Jordan Mason. But that's again because I actually think Jordan Mason gets more per week. But if put it this way, if everybody gets hurt that I have these backups with there to really answer your question. Grenda would rank the highest. Grenda would rank over Mason, over Ray Davis, over Blake Korm like, he would be the top of those, even though they would all kind of be in a similar conversation.

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Yeah, it's very interesting. Friends. You can join the Fantasy Pros Discord community today, chat with other fans and get access to exclusive amas that could wind up on the podcast feed. We had a bunch of those last year. You can go and chat in the debro the Derek Brown ama as well. Here's our current schedule you can get it, says myself, I think this is a worm here worm and fits five pm east of the copy here. It's like I'm not worm Werman fits at five pm Eastern on the first Tuesday of each month. You get Fitsen Bogman at five pm Eastern on the third Tuesday of each month. And you can get your questions answered and be on the show at Fantasypros dot com slash chat. Join it today Fantasypros dot com slash Chat and get in the discord. I got an a m a too, so actually you can talk with myself, but just not with fits on that show. Let's go to number three. Boy, I'm gonna tell you these are my favorites. These are like number ones for me.

I just say that. He's already gone three for three on like stealing names. I was gonna have in my list.

I just say that. He's already gone three for three on like stealing names. I was gonna have in my list.

Just murdering. If this is a mock, gotta get in expletives and angry.

Just murdering. If this is a mock, gotta get in expletives and angry.

But Deepro, we gotta get in. Werman Welsh did the same thing. They're like, here's what we're doing this week. I already have the other persons, but the.

But Deepro, we gotta get in. Werman Welsh did the same thing. They're like, here's what we're doing this week. I already have the other persons, but the.

Real look behind the curtainer. Jake I sent Welsh to Slack. I think it was on Friday, and I said before I even sent anything, we got this show next because like, here's my names.

Real look behind the curtainer. Jake I sent Welsh to Slack. I think it was on Friday, and I said before I even sent anything, we got this show next because like, here's my names.

I was like, I don't you know.

I was like, I don't you know.

I was like, so, just so we have this out there, I.

I was like, so, just so we have this out there, I.

Was like, I'm gonna look a future show for me now. Yeah.

Was like, I'm gonna look a future show for me now. Yeah.

Debro's like Deebro's like, listen, I don't care what Jake wants. You know, this is what I'm doing. Yeah exactly. Yeah, So Debro, you are sniping left and right is a great name. This is number three on the Muss Halves. You've been preaching this since last year and the moves have made it more apparent. Let's talk about your third must have player for twenty twenty five, Welsh.

Debro's like Deebro's like, listen, I don't care what Jake wants. You know, this is what I'm doing. Yeah exactly. Yeah, So Debro, you are sniping left and right is a great name. This is number three on the Muss Halves. You've been preaching this since last year and the moves have made it more apparent. Let's talk about your third must have player for twenty twenty five, Welsh.

I'm just playing to the crowd here, baby. I know you were hosting this so we had to give a lot of forty nine ers love on this. But seriously, dude, it's like, can we just toss the rookie season? Most of it just into the trash for Ricky Piersoll. I mean, looking at the runway is clear, Dude, you have Brandon a Yuk entering this year at not one hundred percent. Deebo Samuel is gone. I love Juwan Jennings just as much as anybody, but we're talking. We're discussing a first round drafted wide receiver that is uber freaking talented. And we also got a snippet of what this could look like. And I understand people say it's two games, you're cherry picking things, because I can go back to the previous three games before that and say, oh, he didn't do anything. He legit didn't get any catches, any targets, nothing. Okay, let's discuss that San Francisco featuring him in the final two weeks of the regular season. In a lost season. That to me signals more of Okay, we're gonna put more on his plate and we can discuss everything off the field, injuries, all of that stuff for days in what sideline Ricky Piersoll, Maybe we saw this ascension happen earlier in the season, if all that stuff didn't happen, But for me, that signals, okay, if we are going to walk away from Debo in the offseason, we need to see if we put more on his plate, can he handle it? Can he be the guy or at least show flashes of being the guy we thought we were investing in the first round of the NFL Draft, and Ricky Pearsall answered the freaking bell dude. In the final two weeks of the regular season, he was wide receiver seven and wide receiver fourteen and fantasy scoring, he got almost a twenty two percent target chair, he got a thirty point four percent first read chair, so he's operating or was operating as the wide receiver one for San Francisco's offense, and he had almost three yards per route run two point eight four to be specific, All of those metrics are freaking fantastic. So yes, we always talk about invest in uber talented wide receivers in their second year in the NFL. We got a small snippet of what he could do possibly this year, And look at this. He is being valued right now in ECR as the wide receiver forty nine. In my rankings, I have him as wide receiver twenty seven. I will be drafting Ricky Pearsall everywhere in twenty twenty five.

I'm just playing to the crowd here, baby. I know you were hosting this so we had to give a lot of forty nine ers love on this. But seriously, dude, it's like, can we just toss the rookie season? Most of it just into the trash for Ricky Piersoll. I mean, looking at the runway is clear, Dude, you have Brandon a Yuk entering this year at not one hundred percent. Deebo Samuel is gone. I love Juwan Jennings just as much as anybody, but we're talking. We're discussing a first round drafted wide receiver that is uber freaking talented. And we also got a snippet of what this could look like. And I understand people say it's two games, you're cherry picking things, because I can go back to the previous three games before that and say, oh, he didn't do anything. He legit didn't get any catches, any targets, nothing. Okay, let's discuss that San Francisco featuring him in the final two weeks of the regular season. In a lost season. That to me signals more of Okay, we're gonna put more on his plate and we can discuss everything off the field, injuries, all of that stuff for days in what sideline Ricky Piersoll, Maybe we saw this ascension happen earlier in the season, if all that stuff didn't happen, But for me, that signals, okay, if we are going to walk away from Debo in the offseason, we need to see if we put more on his plate, can he handle it? Can he be the guy or at least show flashes of being the guy we thought we were investing in the first round of the NFL Draft, and Ricky Pearsall answered the freaking bell dude. In the final two weeks of the regular season, he was wide receiver seven and wide receiver fourteen and fantasy scoring, he got almost a twenty two percent target chair, he got a thirty point four percent first read chair, so he's operating or was operating as the wide receiver one for San Francisco's offense, and he had almost three yards per route run two point eight four to be specific, All of those metrics are freaking fantastic. So yes, we always talk about invest in uber talented wide receivers in their second year in the NFL. We got a small snippet of what he could do possibly this year, And look at this. He is being valued right now in ECR as the wide receiver forty nine. In my rankings, I have him as wide receiver twenty seven. I will be drafting Ricky Pearsall everywhere in twenty twenty five.

Only question I have on this is do you have Pearsall over Juwan Jennings.

Only question I have on this is do you have Pearsall over Juwan Jennings.

That's a great question. I have them in the same area code. Let me see. I think I have him right ahead of him. Where is Jawan Chack good? Dawan Jennings is wide receiver thirty four, and I could start making the case for him at wide receiver thirty or thirty thirty one.

That's a great question. I have them in the same area code. Let me see. I think I have him right ahead of him. Where is Jawan Chack good? Dawan Jennings is wide receiver thirty four, and I could start making the case for him at wide receiver thirty or thirty thirty one.

So you have piarsal over Juwan Jennings, And that is where I disagree with you. I Juwan Jennings to me, is now Ricky Pearsall is going to be the big explosive play. He's the type of guy with especially with how we've seen the forty nine ers run with him, is play him across the field. Let him he's their debo version. Let him get the yards after super fast guy probably four catches eighty five in a score. But Juwan Jennings is going to be your ten target guy. Perty loves him. I like Juwan Jennings is the top guy. They love Juwan Jennings in the red zone as well. So my only caveat would be, this isn't the old forty nine ers where it's like, you know, Brandon Ayuk at eleven and Debo at fourteen. This is maybe them in the twenties, but to me, it's like Juwan Jennings at like twenty four and Piarsalt like twenty eight. Jake, you said three for three. Obviously you agree with Ricky Pearsall being higher than his wide receiver forty nine rank. Here, give me your take on the must own and him versus Juwan Jennings.

So you have piarsal over Juwan Jennings, And that is where I disagree with you. I Juwan Jennings to me, is now Ricky Pearsall is going to be the big explosive play. He's the type of guy with especially with how we've seen the forty nine ers run with him, is play him across the field. Let him he's their debo version. Let him get the yards after super fast guy probably four catches eighty five in a score. But Juwan Jennings is going to be your ten target guy. Perty loves him. I like Juwan Jennings is the top guy. They love Juwan Jennings in the red zone as well. So my only caveat would be, this isn't the old forty nine ers where it's like, you know, Brandon Ayuk at eleven and Debo at fourteen. This is maybe them in the twenties, but to me, it's like Juwan Jennings at like twenty four and Piarsalt like twenty eight. Jake, you said three for three. Obviously you agree with Ricky Pearsall being higher than his wide receiver forty nine rank. Here, give me your take on the must own and him versus Juwan Jennings.

So yeah, I actually am a little bit lower than he is on Piersal, but not by much. But I am vastly far lower on Juwan Jennings. And this is coming from somebody that pounded the table in my waiver column. You know, you and I were talking last year about like it was Jewan Jennings Juwan Jennings, but you kind of brought up an interesting point where I think it's gonna come down to what is Brandon Ayuk as of today on the team as of today? Is he out there week one? If he is, I don't like Jennings as much because I do agree with your assessment of Jennings. Where I disagree is I think that Jennings, as what my point was last year, is a Yuk replaced sment and Piersill's more of a debo replacement stylistically the fit with George Cadell. So my concern is that Jennings just isn't on the field as much. And now I could be wrong, and I mean maybe just Piersoll can't even get past him, and Piersil's only out there in three wide, that's a possibility. I'm leaning more towards I believe in Piersill being the higher ceiling. And this is coming from somebody who likes Jennings, So that's really the difference. I would just look at it this way when it comes to these kind of situations where we're all, you know, we're talking about possibilities and I'm admitting I could be the wrong one here is I'm just gonna take the cheapest so if it ends up being Jennings is the cheapest, he'll be the one I draft more So I'll still take Pearsil, But if Piercell ends up the cheapest, I'm gonna take him because these are the scenarios where we can do our best guests to it. We're trying to guess what Shanahan's going to do, what party is going to be feel comfortable doing. And you've brought up the report that he already has with Jennings. But if Piersol's out there for ninety percent of the routs and Jennings out there sixty percent, that's gonna be a big thing that could flip the other way. So I'm on Piersoll, and I do I have Jennings right now because of that down in like the Mooney Shaheed range, which just ends up being like the forty eight, just because of there's so many freaking wide receivers to pick from. Next year, I.

So yeah, I actually am a little bit lower than he is on Piersal, but not by much. But I am vastly far lower on Juwan Jennings. And this is coming from somebody that pounded the table in my waiver column. You know, you and I were talking last year about like it was Jewan Jennings Juwan Jennings, but you kind of brought up an interesting point where I think it's gonna come down to what is Brandon Ayuk as of today on the team as of today? Is he out there week one? If he is, I don't like Jennings as much because I do agree with your assessment of Jennings. Where I disagree is I think that Jennings, as what my point was last year, is a Yuk replaced sment and Piersill's more of a debo replacement stylistically the fit with George Cadell. So my concern is that Jennings just isn't on the field as much. And now I could be wrong, and I mean maybe just Piersoll can't even get past him, and Piersil's only out there in three wide, that's a possibility. I'm leaning more towards I believe in Piersill being the higher ceiling. And this is coming from somebody who likes Jennings, So that's really the difference. I would just look at it this way when it comes to these kind of situations where we're all, you know, we're talking about possibilities and I'm admitting I could be the wrong one here is I'm just gonna take the cheapest so if it ends up being Jennings is the cheapest, he'll be the one I draft more So I'll still take Pearsil, But if Piercell ends up the cheapest, I'm gonna take him because these are the scenarios where we can do our best guests to it. We're trying to guess what Shanahan's going to do, what party is going to be feel comfortable doing. And you've brought up the report that he already has with Jennings. But if Piersol's out there for ninety percent of the routs and Jennings out there sixty percent, that's gonna be a big thing that could flip the other way. So I'm on Piersoll, and I do I have Jennings right now because of that down in like the Mooney Shaheed range, which just ends up being like the forty eight, just because of there's so many freaking wide receivers to pick from. Next year, I.

Think it'll come to I'm a little bit of the the Juwan Jennings sooth sayers Andrew Erickson would call me, but I would be shocked if Jennings wasn't in all two wide receiver sets. I'd also point out to you that I think the signing of DeMarcus Robinson might be a little bit of a tell of what's going to happen with Brandon Ayuk, whether there's a health issue where it's half the season or it is a clear they're going to get rid of him, and Juwan Jennings will go into the Brandon Ayuk. If Ayuk is gone or even if if you see you said he's still with a team but missus half the season, I go back to what you said, and Jennings would be inside my top twenty five, Like yeah, and that'll be something to watch.

Think it'll come to I'm a little bit of the the Juwan Jennings sooth sayers Andrew Erickson would call me, but I would be shocked if Jennings wasn't in all two wide receiver sets. I'd also point out to you that I think the signing of DeMarcus Robinson might be a little bit of a tell of what's going to happen with Brandon Ayuk, whether there's a health issue where it's half the season or it is a clear they're going to get rid of him, and Juwan Jennings will go into the Brandon Ayuk. If Ayuk is gone or even if if you see you said he's still with a team but missus half the season, I go back to what you said, and Jennings would be inside my top twenty five, Like yeah, and that'll be something to watch.

I'll say this, and I wanted to get this in here. Brandon Ayuk could be traded in the NFL Draft, and the answer to all of this could just be draft both. It could be Jennings, and.

I'll say this, and I wanted to get this in here. Brandon Ayuk could be traded in the NFL Draft, and the answer to all of this could just be draft both. It could be Jennings, and.

I think it is draft both.

I think it is draft both.

I do think that is today. It is draft both. And the cheaper cost is a really interesting thing. I think both of them could come at pretty affordable costs. But you might see, like I said, the upside is in favor. I think of like Ricky Piersow on the big playability. But you could end up seeing both of these guys in the late twenties and they could both be draftable. I think that is what you're seeing at the end of the day, and you know you could be like DeMarcus Robin. I think it's something to watch for. We've got the top two for each of these guys coming up, but first let's talk about this week's Chasing Challenges, brought to you by Microsoft. Just like athletes who push boundaries and redefine what's possible, business decision makers today are turning challenges into opportunities. Microsoft meets you where you are with tools and guidance that help you make an impact with safe, secure AI solutions. Players and teams are facing their own challenges. In this segment, we spotlight athletes or teams that are currently undergoing a challenge, what this means from a fantasy or a betting standpoint, and examining how we think they can overcome it. Whatever challenge you're facing, Microsoft empowers you with the expertise to say bring it on. This week, we're discussing Ricky Pirosol overcoming this competition with Devo out that is one less target, but Juwan Jennings and the potential return of Brandon Ayuk and the signing of DeMarcus Robinson. Ricky's path is not completely clear on what it will be, but it is becoming clear. Deebro broke down the reasons to get excited. Now he just needs to overcome the competition that's around him and get those targets from brock perty. That's it for this week's Chasing challenges. Remember Microsoft's AI solutions empower you to take bold steps and make informed decisions, sparking new ideas to help drive your business forward. With Microsoft as your trusted partner, you can navigate your journey with confidence, finding innovative solutions, and reaching new possibilities. Visit Microsoft dot com Slash Challengers to learn more. Number two, you guys have finally deviated. Well, well it's not the same position.