This is a two part message.

When our worst fears become reality, faith can feel fragile and disoriented. In this episode, Jennifer Slattery sits down with Vaneetha Risner and Angela Mackey to explore how trust in God is rebuilt—not through changed circumstances, but through a deeper awareness of His presence. Vaneetha shares her journey through devastating loss, disability, and abandonment, and how God met her in the place she feared most. Rather than offering quick relief, He revealed something stronger: that His presence is a more secure foundation than any outcome she once depended on.

Angela brings a complementary perspective through her “what if to even if” story, rooted in the account of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. Walking through profound grief and physical trauma, she wrestled with God honestly and discovered that faith is not the absence of questions but the willingness to cling to Him in the fire. Together, these conversations reframe suffering—not as evidence of God’s absence, but as an invitation to encounter His nearness, deepen trust, and anchor hope in His unchanging character rather than fragile outcomes.

Scripture Discussed
Psalm 27:13 
Isaiah 29:13 
Exodus 3-4
Daniel 1–3

Resource Referenced: This Was Never The Plan:Walking with God through the Heartache of Divorceby Vaneetha Risner

Connect with Vaneetha:

On her website

On Instagram

On Facebook

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Find Jennifer Slattery:

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Instagram

Facebook

Amazon

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This is a two part message.
When our worst fears become reality, faith can feel fragile and disoriented. In this episode, Jennifer Slattery sits down with Vaneetha Risner and Angela Mackey to explore how trust in God is rebuilt&mdash;not through changed circumstances, but through a deeper awareness of His presence. Vaneetha shares her journey through devastating loss, disability, and abandonment, and how God met her in the place she feared most. Rather than offering quick relief, He revealed something stronger: that His presence is a more secure foundation than any outcome she once depended on.
Angela brings a complementary perspective through her &ldquo;what if to even if&rdquo; story, rooted in the account of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. Walking through profound grief and physical trauma, she wrestled with God honestly and discovered that faith is not the absence of questions but the willingness to cling to Him in the fire. Together, these conversations reframe suffering&mdash;not as evidence of God&rsquo;s absence, but as an invitation to encounter His nearness, deepen trust, and anchor hope in His unchanging character rather than fragile outcomes.
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Scripture Discussed
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<li data-section-id="1g9whw5" data-start="1259" data-end="1401">Psalm 27:13&nbsp;</li>
<li data-section-id="1gxm6b4" data-start="1402" data-end="1517">Isaiah 29:13&nbsp;</li>
<li data-section-id="1lp3tgh" data-start="1518" data-end="1667">Exodus 3-4</li>
<li data-section-id="a4874p" data-start="1668" data-end="1802">Daniel 1&ndash;3 </li>
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Resource Referenced: <a href="https://www.vaneetha.com/this-was-never-the-plan">This Was Never The Plan:Walking with God through the Heartache of Divorce</a> <a href="https://www.vaneetha.com/">by Vaneetha Risner</a>
Connect with Vaneetha:
<a href="https://www.vaneetha.com/">On her website</a>
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/vaneetharisner/">On Instagram</a>
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/vaneetharisner">On Facebook</a>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B01MR012PK?ccs_id=278cdfc3-f399-4f22-be53-d61c04c4d06e">Follow her work on Amazon</a>
Find Jennifer Slattery:
<a href="http://jenniferslatterylivesoutloud.com">On her website</a>
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/slatteryjennifer/">Instagram</a>
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100083247680572">Facebook</a>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B00JKQ4ZTW">Amazon</a>
<a href="https://landing.mailerlite.com/webforms/landing/s5w7a8">Subscribe to her free newsletter</a>

Life is too short and God has too much for us to do for any of us to live enslaved. Jesus promised His followers would experience filled to overflowing life, a life characterized by joy, peace, and spiritual and emotional vitality. And yet, we daily make decisions based on fear, not faith. In Faith Over Fear, author and speaker Jennifer Slattery helps us see different areas of life where fear has a foothold, and how our identity as children of God can help us move from fear to faithful, bold living.

This podcast covers topics like:

⭐️ How to Overcome Fear
⭐️ Biblical Strategies for Overcoming Fear and Anxiety
⭐️ Powerful Steps to Fight Anxiety
⭐️ Finding God Faithful in Hard Seasons
⭐️ Courage to Wait on God

Jesus has more planned for us than we could imagine and He’s fully committed to perfecting that which concerns us. Fear holds us back, but His perfect love has the power to cast out all fear!

Life is too short and God has too much for us to do for any of us to live enslaved. Jesus promised His followers would experience filled to overflowing life, a life characterized by joy, peace, and spiritual and emotional vitality. And yet, we daily make decisions based on fear, not faith. In Faith Over Fear, author and speaker Jennifer Slattery helps us see different areas of life where fear has a foothold, and how our identity as children of God can help us move from fear to faithful, bold living.
This podcast covers topics like:
⭐️ How to Overcome Fear ⭐️ Biblical Strategies for Overcoming Fear and Anxiety ⭐️ Powerful Steps to Fight Anxiety ⭐️ Finding God Faithful in Hard Seasons ⭐️ Courage to Wait on God
Jesus has more planned for us than we could imagine and He’s fully committed to perfecting that which concerns us. Fear holds us back, but His perfect love has the power to cast out all fear!

Life is too short and God has too much for us to do for any of us to live enslaved. Jesus promised His followers would experience filled to overflowing life, a life characterized by joy, peace, and spiritual and emotional vitality. And yet, we daily...

Faith Over Fear

Faith in the Fire: When You Feel Betrayed by God

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