Podcast Pimps, The Judas Spirit & Celebrity Christian Culture - The Fringe Files

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Leah had decided a pastor was blasphemous before she had watched a minute of his sermon.

A guest cancelled, so this one is off the cuff, and it opens with Leah admitting she did the exact thing this show tells people not to do. She saw clips of Otha Turnbow's sermon on Jesus going to hell, felt the emotional charge, went looking for other people's reactions, and sealed his fate in her mind without going to the source. In this conversation she walks through the rebuke she got in her spirit, what she found when she finally watched the sermons, and why she says the short clip exists to deny you context and sell you a reaction instead.

The second half turns toward the economy around all of it. Leah and Malaine cover celebrity Christian culture and who is monetizing what, the Judas spirit running through exposure ministry, how to tell a watchman from an accuser, the man who publicly gave Jenny Weaver seventy two hours to live, and why loyalty to a ministry turns into idolatry faster than anybody expects. They close on holding every ministry loosely, the spiritual covering language nobody can find in scripture, and Jesus inviting the question at the foot of Mount Hermon.

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"The truth doesn't need to hide from questioning. The only thing that needs to hide from questioning is deception."

-Leah Steele Barnett

Key Takeaways

  • Leah walks through her own week of judging a sermon off a clip, and the rebuke that stopped her.
  • Why the kingdom of darkness has an interest in keeping you off long form content, and what the three second hit is actually doing.
  • What Otha Turnbow's sermon on Jesus and hell actually says once you sit through all three of them in full.
  • Both hosts are monetizing, and they explain how an assignment from God and a Patreon can sit in the same hand.
  • The Judas spirit in exposure ministry, and the test Leah uses on how she feels after watching one.
  • How to tell a watchman from an accuser, including the one thing a watchman always does that an accuser never bothers with.
  • The man who publicly gave Jenny Weaver seventy two hours to live, and what she was doing when the deadline passed.
  • Why loyalty to a pastor or a platform turns into idolatry, and what Malaine says happens to your prophetic hearing once it does.
  • The spiritual covering and spiritual father language that neither of them can find anywhere in scripture.

Featured Scripture

Proverbs 18:17

"He that is first in his own cause seemeth just; but his neighbour cometh and searcheth him." (KJV)

Application: The first version of a story always sounds airtight, which is exactly why God put a second step in the verse. Somebody has to come and search it. A forty second clip is the first voice, and so is the reaction video stacked on top of it, and neither one has been searched by anybody. Leah ran into this in her own week and names it plainly in the episode. Before you form a verdict on a brother or sister, go be the neighbour who searches it, which usually means watching the whole thing and reading the whole chapter.

Timestamps

0:00:00 - Faith on the Fringe intro
0:04:09 - Otha Turnbow and the podcast pimps
0:04:48 - Our own viral clip and the comments
0:07:14 - Leah gets an emotional charge
0:09:00 - The three second dopamine economy
0:11:30 - What the sermon actually said
0:14:10 - Watching all three sermons
0:15:23 - Celebrity Christian culture and money
0:17:30 - Judas spirit in exposure ministry
0:22:13 - The attacks on Jenny Weaver
0:24:36 - Watchman or accuser, how Leah tells
0:26:25 - Prophesying death over a minister
0:29:09 - Loyalty that becomes idolatry
0:48:33 - Truth does not hide from questioning
1:04:59 - Mount Hermon, who do you say I am

Resources and Connect

The sermons discussed in this episode, promised on-mic:

The Rise of The Podcast Pimps, Lionheart Church: https://lionheartchurch.org/podcast/56-the-rise-of-the-podcast-pimps/

Lionheart Church on Apple Podcasts, for the original sermon on Jesus and hell and the response that followed: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lionheart-church/id1575465507

Supernatural Bible Sessions, the monthly Bible study, third Wednesday evening in the Americas and third Thursday morning in Asia Pacific, with replays, study guides and research dossiers in Patreon: https://supernaturalbiblesessions.com

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Scriptures for Further Study

Proverbs 18:17. The first account sounds just until a neighbour searches it.

Revelation 12:10. The accuser of the brethren, named as a role somebody can take up.

Ezekiel 33:6-7. The watchman is given a duty to warn, and consequences for staying quiet.

Matthew 18:15-17. Go to your brother directly, then with witnesses, then to the assembly.

Matthew 7:16-20. You will know them by their fruits, which includes how a thing leaves you feeling.

Matthew 16:13-17. At Caesarea Philippi, near Mount Hermon, Jesus asks who they say He is.

1 Corinthians 1:10-13. I follow Paul, I follow Apollos, and Paul calling the division out.

Galatians 6:1. Restore a brother in a spirit of gentleness, watching yourself.

James 3:1. Teachers are judged more strictly.

Matthew 23:9. Call no man father, which bears on the spiritual covering language.

1 Thessalonians 5:21. Prove all things, hold fast to what is good.

2 Timothy 4:3-4. People gather teachers who tell them what their own ears want.

Before you repost a clip this week, watch the whole thing first. If you cannot find the time to watch the whole thing, you do not have a position yet, and that is a perfectly good place to stand.

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