These are uncertain times for so many of us. 

But, according to writer Maggie Jackson, perhaps there is deep wisdom to be uncovered too—surprising gifts of curiosity, creative thinking, open-mindedness, and ways forward through the (often) unpredictabilities of life. 

In this conversation, Kate and Maggie Discuss:
How uncertainty might foster creativity, resilience, and mutual understanding
Why we avoid ambiguity and a few small steps to help us become more comfortable with not knowing
How the practices of imagination and perspective-taking can help us see the potential in others
Why focusing on outcomes can close you off from picking up new information, nuance, or other peoples' perspectives
Why experiences contrary to our beliefs take longer, sometimes even weeks, to process



Watch clips from this conversation, read the full transcript, and access discussion questions by clicking here or visiting katebowler.com/podcasts.

Follow Kate on Instagram, Facebook, or X (formerly known as Twitter)—@katecbowler. Links to social pages and more available at linktr.ee/katecbowler.

These are uncertain times for so many of us. 
But, according to writer Maggie Jackson, perhaps there is deep wisdom to be uncovered too—surprising gifts of curiosity, creative thinking, open-mindedness, and ways forward through the (often) unpredictabilities of life. 
In this conversation, Kate and Maggie Discuss:
<ul>
<li>How uncertainty might foster creativity, resilience, and mutual understanding</li>
<li>Why we avoid ambiguity and a few small steps to help us become more comfortable with not knowing</li>
<li>How the practices of imagination and perspective-taking can help us see the potential in others</li>
<li>Why focusing on outcomes can close you off from picking up new information, nuance, or other peoples' perspectives</li>
<li>Why experiences contrary to our beliefs take longer, sometimes even weeks, to process</li>
</ul>
 
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Watch clips from this conversation, read the full transcript, and access discussion questions by <a href="https://katebowler.com/podcast/">clicking here</a> or visiting katebowler.com/podcasts.
Follow Kate on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/katecbowler/">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/katecbowler">Facebook</a>, or <a href="https://twitter.com/KatecBowler">X</a> (formerly known as Twitter)—@katecbowler. Links to social pages and more available at linktr.ee/katecbowler.

Are you living your best life now? Not always? This is a podcast for you. Duke Professor Kate Bowler is an expert in the stories we tell about success and failure, suffering and happiness. She had Stage IV cancer. Then she didn’t. And since then, all she wants to do is talk to funny and wise people about how to live with the knowledge that, well, everything happens.  Find her online at @katecbowler.

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Are you living your best life now? Not always? This is a podcast for you. Duke Professor Kate Bowler is an expert in the stories we tell about success and failure, suffering and happiness. She had Stage IV cancer. Then she didn’t. And since then, all she wants to do is talk to funny and wise people about how to live with the knowledge that, well, everything happens.  Find her online at @katecbowler.
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