Poet Kate Baer found herself inundated with the demands of motherhood and little time to write. Nothing was easy and then, at a breaking point, it felt impossible. If she wanted a creative life, she was going to have to redefine “perfection” (perfect mom! perfect woman!) and learn to tolerate a lot more imperfection instead.  

On this episode of Kate & Kate, they discuss:
How friendships give permission to speak honestly (and why your friendships are actually important)
Why not every experience (motherhood, marriage) is “fulfilling”
How they each went off-script to find meaning
Kate Baer’s great love for Panera Bread




CW: postpartum depression

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Poet Kate Baer found herself inundated with the demands of motherhood and little time to write. Nothing was easy and then, at a breaking point, it felt impossible. If she wanted a creative life, she was going to have to redefine “perfection” (perfect mom! perfect woman!) and learn to tolerate a lot more imperfection instead.  On this episode of Kate &amp; Kate, they discuss:<ul>
<li>How friendships give permission to speak honestly (and why your friendships are actually important)</li>
<li>Why not every experience (motherhood, marriage) is “fulfilling”</li>
<li>How they each went off-script to find meaning</li>
<li>Kate Baer’s great love for Panera Bread</li>
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Poet Kate Baer found herself inundated with the demands of motherhood and little time to write. Nothing was easy and then, at a breaking point, it felt impossible. If she wanted a creative life, she was going to have to redefine “perfection” (perfect mom! perfect woman!) and learn to tolerate a lot more imperfection instead.    On this episode of Kate & Kate, they discuss how friendships give permission to speak honestly (and why your friendships are actually important), why not every experience (motherhood, marriage) is “fulfilling,” how they each went off-script to find meaning, and Kate Baer’s great love for Panera Bread. CW: postpartum depression

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