Some people are the LEAN IN sort. They lean into your unsolvable problems, show up on your impossible days, and walk with you all the way to the end. How do we become them? How do we create belonging when the people we love experience such uncertainty? Practical theologian and mental health nurse John Swinton knows a thing or two about this kind of love.  




In this conversation, Kate and John discuss: 
The importance of learning to be present for people with intellectual disabilities, dementia, or in mental health crises 
How two places that should be known as places of belonging—the church and the hospital—have become difficult for fragile people… and how we might begin to make these institutions better
A theology of hope we might all be able to sign up for (Spoiler: Hope is a long story.) 
How love moves at a certain speed, so we all might need to slow down a bit




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Some people are the LEAN IN sort. They lean into your unsolvable problems, show up on your impossible days, and walk with you all the way to the end. How do we become them? How do we create belonging when the people we love experience such uncertainty? Practical theologian and mental health nurse John Swinton knows a thing or two about this kind of love.   In this conversation, Kate and John discuss: <ul>
<li>The importance of learning to be present for people with intellectual disabilities, dementia, or in mental health crises </li>
<li>How two places that should be known as places of belonging—the church and the hospital—have become difficult for fragile people… and how we might begin to make these institutions better</li>
<li>A theology of hope we might all be able to sign up for (Spoiler: Hope is a long story.) </li>
<li>How love moves at a certain speed, so we all might need to slow down a bit</li>
</ul> ***Looking for the transcript or show notes? <a href="https://katebowler.com/podcasts/">Click here</a>.Find Kate on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/katecbowler/">Instagram</a> or <a href="https://www.facebook.com/katecbowler">Facebook</a> or <a href="https://twitter.com/KatecBowler">Twitter</a>.THE LIVES WE ACTUALLY HAVE: 100 Blessings for Imperfect Days is out now. <a href="https://katebowler.com/the-lives-we-actually-have/">Learn more, here</a>.Leave us a voicemail and who knows? We might even be able to use your voice on the air: 919-322-8731 To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: <a href="https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy">https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

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Are you living your best life now? Not always? This is a podcast for you. Duke Professor Kate Bowler is an expert in the stories we tell about success and failure, suffering and happiness. She had Stage IV cancer. Then she didn’t. And since then, all she wants to do is talk to funny and wise people about how to live with the knowledge that, well, everything happens.  Find her online at @katecbowler.
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Some people are the LEAN IN sort. They lean into your unsolvable problems, show up on your impossible days, and walk with you all the way to the end. How do we become them? How do we create belonging when the people we love experience such uncertainty? Practical theologian and mental health nurse John Swinton knows a thing or two about this kind of love.      In this conversation, Kate and John discuss:   The importance of learning to be present for people with intellectual disabilities, dementia, or in mental health crises  How two places that should be known as places of belonging—the church and the hospital—have become difficult for fragile people… and how we might begin to make these institutions better A theology of hope we might all be able to sign up for (Spoiler: Hope is a long story.)  How love moves at a certain speed, so we all might need to slow down a bit

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