"I'm giving you a new commandment: Love each other in the same way that I have loved you." — John 13:34

What if we're sometimes so focused on being right that we forget what Jesus actually told us to do?

In this episode of Everyday Joy, Ash is joined by singer-songwriter and worship leader Kate for an honest conversation about one of Jesus' most challenging commands: love one another as I have loved you.

Together, they unpack why Christians can sometimes get so caught up in disagreements, denominations, theology and the things that divide us that we lose sight of the thing Jesus placed right in front of us—loving people.

But this conversation goes even deeper. Kate and Ash explore what it actually means to love others when we're running low on patience, grace and kindness. Because the reality is, we can't keep pouring out something we're not receiving ourselves.

Jesus doesn't simply tell us to love more—He invites us to first understand how deeply we are loved by Him. When we become more aware of God's love for us, we have a deeper well to draw from when loving the people around us gets difficult.

This episode is a reminder that following Jesus isn't about being perfect, having all the answers, or winning every theological argument. It's about becoming people who reflect the love we've received.

If you've ever found yourself frustrated by disagreements within the church, struggling to love someone you don't agree with, or simply running out of patience with the people around you, this conversation will encourage you to come back to the starting point: receive God's love, and let it overflow into the way you love others.